Caroline interviews Localisation Pioneer and Founder of localfutures.org Helena Norberg Hodge, about her life's work based on her many decades working with the people of Ladakh, Northern India, and on how we can be inspired by this ancient culture, here in the West in terms of Economic Development. In particular, we consider the assumption that "growth is good" and we talk about the Interconnectedness of Living Things at the heart of all our Happiness.