Sian and Adelle are joined in the studio by Julia Crawford, founder of People Pillar Ltd.

Julia made the move from her corporate, local government strategic HR role to starting her own agency helping businesses to manage their staff.

Interestingly, she found she had to tackle her own fears about taking on new employees to help her business grow.

Julia shares what you need to do before you take on your first employee, the difference freelancers, associates and employees can make and of course her key ideas for productivity and growth.

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