Keith talks about a secret computer game project he’s working on, and reflects at length on similarities between MMO game design and the world building of shows like Battlestar Galactica, The 100, Enterprise, Lost, and in particular, Westworld. Then they talk at great length about Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and also The Magicians and The Eagle Huntress. Lastly they talk more about Westworld, this time with spoilers aplenty.

SPOILER ALERT: Spoilers inside.