For this episode of The Conversation, Adam sits down with author, pastor, leader and friend Steve Carter to talk about the things beneath the things in our lives. We all have potholes in our lives formed by pain, trauma, or choices that we’ve made that we’re tempted to fill with quick fixes rather than lasting repairs. Throughout this conversation, Steve guides us in asking the questions that will help us unearth the things we’ve buried, invite healing into the dark places of our lives, and take steps toward a new way of living where we find the true freedom promised by Jesus. Make sure to grab a notebook and pen before pressing play—this is an episode you won’t want to miss!

You can get a copy of Steve’s newest book, The Thing Beneath the Thing, here: amzn.to/37QrMIz