In this episode of The Observatory, Nick and John McGill join the show to share their touching surrogacy journey, from choosing an egg donor to the surrogate's pregnancy and the support they received. Nick and John have been married since 2013 and have two kids. Hear the process of choosing a surrogate mother, the challenges that Nick and John experienced with the surrogate mother and the experience of having a child two weeks early. They also talk about the finances that come with surrogacy, the challenge of states changing the laws of surrogacy on same-sex couples, and the organizations that support gay couples looking to have surrogacy. 

Timestamps:

[03:50] Nick and John’s wedding in December 2013
[08:05] The experience of getting kids through surrogacy 
[13:16] The challenges that Nick and John experienced with the surrogate mother
[16:57] The process of choosing a mother for the kids 
[24:07] The experience of Asher coming two weeks early
[30:00] The challenge of states changing the laws of surrogacy 
[34:46] How it felt to start the surrogacy process all over again 
[36:57] The finances that come with surrogacy 
[42:39] The exciting thing about the second surrogacy 
[52:00] The sacrifice that surrogate mothers make in carrying a child for nine months 
[59:00] The organization that supports gay couples looking to have surrogacy 

Notable quotes:

• “Love is love.” - Scott [04:04]
• “The reason why we went to Bosie is that in Utah, the whole thing about surrogacy with same-sex couples was black and white. There was no grey area.” - Nick McGill [26:42]
• “For somebody to be able to carry a child for you, nine months of their life, knowing it’s not their child, is something special.” - Nick McGill [51:39]
• “If a husband and a wife have a kid, their experience is different from somebody who is going through surrogacy because you are on the sideline.” - Nick McGill [57:51]

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