In this episode, Dr. Bernd Heinrich -- world-renowned biologist and top ultra marathoner -- joins Melanie and Michael for a discussion of nature, biology, the nature of science, how education should be, his journey through life, and more. Sorry the sound quality was not good sometimes; our Internet connection was sometimes not the best.

In this episode, we discuss:
-Dr. Heinrich's background
-early influences on him
-how he got interested in biology
-some of the research he has done
-the human need to be in and be involved in nature
-the importance of biology
-how to get yourself or your children interested in biology
-problems with our current American culture and educational system
-how we can improve our culture and educational system

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Articles, interviews, podcasts, and YouTube videos about Dr. Heinrich:
1. Bernd Heinrich bio on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Heinrich

2. A guide to all his books: http://www.thenaturalistsnotebook.com/books-by-bernd

3. His academic career: https://www.uvm.edu/cas/biology/profiles/bernd-heinrich

3. "Seeking the Lost Art of Growing Old with Intention” (Outside, Dec 15, 2017 ) by Bill Donahue: https://www.outsideonline.com/2267886/last-naturalist

4. "Road Runner: Animals inspire ultramarathoner Bernd Heinrich to go the distance” (Seven Days, January 16, 2002) by Paula Routly: https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/road-runner-animals-inspire-ultramarathoner-bernd-heinrich-to-go-the-distance/Content?oid=2564894

5. “Scientist at Work: Bernd Heinrich, Sings of Survival in a Frozen Forest” (New York Times, January 7, 2003) by James Gormanjan: https://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/07/science/scientist-at-work-bernd-heinrich-signs-of-survival-in-a-frozen-forest.html

6. "From Twigs to Ravens, Nothing Escapes the Notice of Bernd Heinrich” (Smithsonian Magazine, November 1, 1997) by Richard Wolkomir: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/from-twigs-to-ravens-nothing-escapes-the-notice-of-bernd-heinrich-53104160/

7. "Bernd Heinrich: Bumble Bees, Ravens, and the Boston Marathon" by Marlin E. Rice (American Entomologist, Volume 62, Issue 3, Fall 2016, Pages 143–151, https://doi.org/10.1093/ae/tmw056 Published: 08 August 2016): https://academic.oup.com/ae/article/62/3/143/1710458

8. Podcasts and interviews:
a. https://birdcallsradio.com/bcr-137-bernd-heinrich-preeminent-naturalist-author-and-scientist/
b. https://awaytogarden.com/homing-instinct-bernd-heinrich/
c. http://mtnmeister.com/meister/bernd-heinrich/
d. http://radioopensource.org/bernd-heinrich-and-our-journey-from-life-to-life/
e. https://www.nhpr.org/post/dr-bernd-heinrich-nature-panacea-our-problems#stream/0
f. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1177500
g. https://archive.org/details/RadioOpenSourceWithChristopherLydonAnInterviewWithNaturalistBernd
h. https://www.wicn.org/podcasts/audio/bernd-heinrich-life-everlasting

9. Dr. Heirich YouTube videos;
a. “Why We Run” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6k3gXCszE
b. "Bernd Heinrich’s Forest:” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlQLIuZ9kKQ
c. “E.O. Wilson: Bernd Heinrich: Athlete and biologist” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iioPDSaD82I

10. Some of Dr. Heinrich's research papers:
a. "Testing Problem Solving in Ravens: String-Pulling to Reach Food:” https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1146/006bbd089617660d14189ed659ae94074fd4.pdf
b. “Thermoregulation by Winter-flying Endothermic Moths:” https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/3423/af0fd1f27c98ac0e0944856859b846f736d6.pdf
c. More: https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C44&q=bernd+heinrich&btnG=

11. Dr. Heinrich is in the top ten for the 100-mlle, 100-km, and 50-mile races (American): https://ultrarunning.com/featured/ultrarunning-magazine-all-time-lists/

12, American Ultrarunning Hall of Fame: http://www.americanultra.org/halloffame.html#Bernd

External links:
1. The biophilia hypothesis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biophilia_hypothesis

2. Biophilia by E.O. Wilson: https://www.amazon.com/Biophilia-Edward-Wilson/dp/0674074424

3. The Biophilia Effect by Clemens Arvay: https://www.amazon.com/Biophilia-Effect-Scientific-Spiritual-Exploration/dp/168364042X/

4. The Nature Fix by Florence Williams: https://www.amazon.com/Nature-Fix-Happier-Healthier-Creative/dp/0393355578/

5. Last Child in the Woods by Richard Louv: https://www.amazon.com/Last-Child-Woods-Children-Nature-Deficit/dp/156512605X/

6. The Montessori Method by Dr. Maria Montessori: https://www.amazon.com/Montessori-Method-Maria/dp/0805209220/

7. Kim Cabrera's animal tracking website: https://www.bear-tracker.com

8. Dr. Mark Vorderbruggen's foraging website: https://www.foragingtexas.com

9. "Tracking Science: The Origin of Scientific Thinking in Our Paleolithic Ancestors" (article) by Louis Liebenberg: https://cybertrackerblog.org/2014/06/11/tracking-science-the-origin-of-scientific-thinking-in-our-paleolithic-ancestors/

10. "The Art of Tracking: The Origin of Science" (book) by Louis Liebenberg: https://www.cybertracker.org/downloads/tracking/The-Art-of-Tracking-The-Origin-of-Science-Louis-Liebenberg.pdf

Image courtesy of Dr. Bernd Heinrich.