We take a very close look at Keyes's use of his victims' cars to both muddle investigations and both figuratively and literally create distance between himself and his crimes. We revisit previously investigated cases - with new insight; and explore new cases all across the country.

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This episode was written, produced, and researched by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by Andrew French, Shana Wilensky, Michelle Tooker, and Kaz.
This episode featured Dr. Chris Kunkle and Bobby Chacon.

Patreon producers:
Alexa Horn
Amy Basil
Casey Jensen-Richardson
Chelsea Collings
Christina Sisson
Ellen Haines Chaponis
Dana Keith
Drew Vipond
Hallie Reed
Harrison Bequette
Jessica Alihodzic
Jillian Natale
Kimberly
Meggan Capps-Seawel
Shannon Foster
Shelly Brewer
Tuesdi Woodworth
Zack Ignatowicz Warren
Lydia Fiedler

Music by:
William Hellfire
LaBon
Sergey Cheremisinov
Radical Face

Featured song: Hatchet by Anni Rossi