Ruben Harris (@rubenharris), founder of Career Karma (www.careerkarma.com), and David Phillips (@davj), founder of Hackbright Academy and BloomJoy, join Erik on this episode.

They discuss:

- The history and evolution of bootcamps, including how and where they got their start.

- Why Ruben thinks that in the long term the cost of education goes to zero.

- Whether bootcamps for non-technical skills can become as big as those for technical skills.

- Why there haven’t been bigger exits in the space.

- Their requests for startups.

- Why big companies like Microsoft or Google haven’t yet created their own bootcamps.

- Their predictions for how the landscape will have changed in the next ten years.

For more on ISAs, check out this report from Career Karma: https://careerkarma.com/blog/income-share-agreements-market-report-summary-2019/

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