As we prepare for Season 3 and record a few discussions, Melanie and Amanda find a recorded conversation that occurred between quadmester 3 and 4 of the 2020-2021 school year. In this intimate and honest conversation, they share struggles of antiracist work and the purpose behind their podcast - wrestling in conversation together. In this episode they discuss "impact vs intent". They also share some posts from Twitter and the importance of normalizing conversations about white supremacy in the classroom, learning from these conversations to make them more effective, and they share the wisdom of Dr. Karnad-Jani - "Activism is a long term lived process".