Kelly chats with Michael McCord, author of the new novel *End Times: More Great Adventures in Real America*, a sequel to *The Execution Channel: A Political Fable*. They discuss how McCord predicted a Trump-like figure might emerge from a Republican Party who had given up on governing, what it's like to write political satire when the real political world is turned upside down, and what the 2020 election might look like.
Kelly chats with Michael McCord, author of the new novel *End Times: More Great Adventures in Real America*, a sequel to *The Execution Channel: A Political Fable*. They discuss how McCord predicted a Trump-like figure might emerge from a Republican Party who had given up on governing, what it's like to write political satire when the real political world is turned upside down, and what the 2020 election might look like.
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