A listener named Benjamin calls to ask why Bart feels the need to 'reinvent the wheel' with secular community-building, rather than simply join a Unitarian Universalist congregation. Benjamin says that he himself has found what he's looking for at a UU church.

Bart responds to Ben's question, saying that he loves the UU movement but it didn’t feel like a fit for him personally. Bart goes on to talk about some of the potential differences between communities.

Bart will be speaking at the Freethought Festival in Madison, Wisconsin this Saturday. Tickets and info at https://ahauwmadison.org/freethought-festival/freethought-festival

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