Explicit HPANWO Show 197- Larry Warren Speaks!

Larry Warren claims to be someone who exposes fraudsters. 77 mins.

I don’t think you are reading my comments properly, Ben, or perhaps you are choosing to ignore them. I didn't suggest you bullied anyone. I merely said I'm certain you would have involved HR or your manager to set the story straight. That is standard procedure. That aside, I'm beginning to get the impression that you may have somewhat of a prejudice against those of different races, particularly as you seem to believe that WSMs are victimised by the police. I have already explained that arrests are not always immediate. In layman's terms "Sophistry" suggests I used an unreasonable and untrue argument to benefit me personally. I didn't. If anything, it appears that you are perhaps the one being sophistic. As for a "class action lawsuit" the UK courts have only recently permitted consumer rights groups to apply for such. There's no possibility for a personal one. I think that is classed as something else entirely. Put LW in a room with other PTSD sufferers and ask them what they think. They'll probably tell him the same thing - he was being disrespectful. I agree that we will disagree. However, I do suggest you read over my comments once more to understand the contents.

HPANWO - I have not once called you a "bad person" in any shape or form. Perhaps you should refer to the sophistry lectures once more to properly understand the meaning. My argument is neither unreasonable nor fallacious. I, and others have evidence to prove the content of his threats. Evidence which was deleted by SPI. I've explained what happened and the direct reference made to me in one of those comments. Arrests are not always immediate involving online threats. Regarding the work rumours, I'm certain you would have discussed this with your manager/HR Team. I've experienced workplace bullying before and it's not pleasant.

"It's false to claim he threatened anybody..." He specifically referred to me as KMB when he threatened "zip your lip or someone will do it for you" (sic). I don't need to name names regarding slander - you already know who LW is referring to . He also recognises that his behaviour is a result of his PTSD. This indicates that he's either had assistance to handle his symptoms, or he's researched what happens. Those with PTSD generally don't recognise their irresponsible actions until/unless pointed put by someone else. Similar to the way an alcoholic doesn't believe that they have a drinking problem. Maybe he has some form of narcissism included in the PTSD. PTSD sufferers tend not to discuss their experiences. LW stated in the ADX Files that he is a BRAND for RFI. You don't see soldiers, sexual assault victims, kidnap victims, witnesses to serious crimes stating they are a "Brand" for events in which they were involved. As I have already said - I don’t doubt that he has PTSD, but his narcissitic tendencies are dangerous. Glasgow University banned hate preacher Mufti Menk from visiting. I hardly think they'd allow Muslim Hate Preachers in there "all the time". It was not unfair to rescind LW'S visit. GU have a zero tolerance policy. That includes bullying and threats - online or in person. What would Larry have done if I had said "come ahead- zip my lip - we'll see who goes down first..."? Would he have claimed to have been threatened? Oh no. Wait. It's "hypothetical". He's a bully. Plain and simple. I've known men and women like that before. They don't like it when their controlling methods don't wash with some of us. He's acting like the mean girl who got slapped by the wallflower who had enough. For me, this is nothing to do with RFI - it's the bullying. However, those who continue to deny that his threats were just that, will probably end up on his wrong side at some point down the line. Maybe it will be something simple - "Aw LW - you shouldn't say/do that.." or perhaps someone will say they're having different thoughts regarding Bentwaters. Whatever the occasion, he will turn on them. People like that always do. I was accused of being a spy for sharing screenshots. Not a spy. Not passive - aggressive. The thread was in a semi - public group. All members had access. All the screenshots shared were taken by more than one person in the group and thankfully they did - seeing as SPI tried to conceal the severity of the content.

HPANWO Radio - I did NOT say he is lying about PTSD. I stated that BLAMING his PTSD for his actions was disrespectful to others who also suffer. Did you see the entire SPI thread before it was deleted? The threats on there were not "hypothetical". PM me and I'll forward the screenshots. He states in one comment "...if you (whomever) makes a move on me or those I love...understand this....I will jump off stage and put your windpipe thru your spine....you are a threat at that point and your life will end! REALLY and faster than venue security can deal with!" That's not hypothetical. I got involved because I believed the threats made by LW and SPI were unnecessary and unprofessional. Had the organisers simply said "anyone who causes trouble - speakers and audience alike, will be dealt with accordingly /asked to leave" that would have been the end of it. They all should have kept their cool. However, they did not. They made boorish threats knowing that there was no necessity for such. Lawful use of force does not include specifying what you will do in a violent act.

With regards to LW's PTSD and using that as an excuse for his actions - do you realise how disrespectful that is to war veterans, victims of crime, victims of physical, mental, sexual abuse? To those who battle within themselves everyday with the symptons?



Extremely disrespectful.



I'm certain that the other people he served and experienced the incident with would not behave the way he has.

James Welsh, you are more than welcome to message me on Facebook and I can send you screenshots of threats etc. All I wanted was SPI organisers and LW to admit that the only person threatening trouble was George Smith. P.S. Sorry for the multiple posts - having to rely on mobile data at the moment as BT net is down and I can't access full site on my phone.

My concerns were the threats made to attendees at the conference.

If you have those texts - produce screenshots.

You speak of defamation and slander, yet you are doing exactly that, LW.

I made a calm and civil plea regarding the threats. I was told I'd have my mouth shut for me. Not once have I threatened them. As for PTSD - I suffer as well. Medically diagnosed - caused by a violent attempted rape. I don't go about threatening people. As for "Larry didn't start it" neither did the person you are all referring to. George Smith did. Not one person wanted the conference cancelled. However, despite evidence showing this, the organisers and LW chose to continue scape-goating.

Private messages from others who don't want to come forward because they'll be attacked by the organisers.

Kelly how exactly did you come to know that 10 people called the police? Did the police tell you this?

And it was a complete stranger called "George Smith" who originally threatened violence.

No you stated you would put their windpipe through their spine.

Now Larry actually admits he made the threats! Why do you think numerous people made complaints regarding concerns about their safety? His removal from the conference was down to his violent threats. Threats that were serious enough for more than ten people to contact the police!

Thanks Heidi -over there now :smile:

Hi Nigel we are all here >> http://chatwing.com/chatbox/55e32b00-4db1-11e6-b54e-297f26602045#chatbox

Hi Ben and all in the chat.

come in here hon >> http://chatwing.com/chatbox/55e32b00-4db1-11e6-b54e-297f26602045#chatbox

Hi all. This should be an interesting show!!