Mike has an idea for new theme music for the podcast. Cynthia doesn’t like it. They talk to David Kayumy, pastor of an Afghan-American church in the San Francisco Bay Area. Turns out being an Afghan Christian in America can be a problem both here and on family members in Afghanistan. This interview was recorded the same day as the tragic shooting at the synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Pastor David can be contacted at dkayumy@gmail.com.