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Our 20th Episode! | Skeptic Generation | Episode 20 Season 1

Our 20th Episode! | Skeptic Generation | Episode 20 Season 1
Oct 4, 2021 · 1h 27m 26s

Does 20 weeks seem like long time, or does it feel like no time at all? The answer is yes. We've only got twelve episodes left in season 1, so...

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Does 20 weeks seem like long time, or does it feel like no time at all? The answer is yes.

We've only got twelve episodes left in season 1, so come give us a call!

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TIME STAMPS & CALL NOTES

10:35 - Nick (he/him) - TN - Do Atheists Have An Obligation to Evangelize?
20:18 - Connor (he/him) - CO - Flat Earther Calls with an Equation
46:03o - Robin (he/him) - DC - Darth Clone Tries Again
50:35 - Sam (they/them) - UK - Is Street Epistemology Dishonest?
1:03:10 - Josh (he/him) - CO - The Theory of the Bicameral Mind
1:15:15 - Josh (they/them) - TN - I Told My Dying Father I Believed

10:35
Should you try to deconvert Christians? Nick has been using his past training as an evangelical to play for the “other side,” and has called in to ask the hosts’ opinions. Vi points out that it’s impossible to tell other atheists what they *ought* to do, but if you believe that engaging with theists is a good way to promote a secular society, that is what you should do! That said, Vi thinks a better way to increase skepticism and secularism would be to start a daycare…

20:18
Is this Skeptic Generation’s first flat earther caller? Where’s E.J. when you need them! Vi and Eric clash with Connor, who thinks that a flat earth is just as valid as a round earth. He also proposes that we can teleport like Pacman if we get to the earth’s edge. And that the laws of gravity and light reflection might not be accurate. And that scientists won’t listen to him because his computation is to complex. In short, just about what you’d expect.

For more information about flat earthers and their debunked theories, please check out the following videos:
- Hbomberguy’s Measured Response: https://youtu.be/2gFsOoKAHZg
- Professor Dave Explains Pt. 1: https://youtu.be/_bHqBy92iGM

46:09
Robin returns! And he is peddling the same drivel he was before he was banned. Vi lets him join the show just long enough to call him and Darth Dawkins out for being dishonest and uninterested in real conversation. If you’ve ever wanted to flip off a presup, this clip is for you.

For the uninitiated, here is the Robin saga as it stands (as well as a link to the recording Vi referenced between Robin and Darth):

- Robin calls in for the first time: https://youtu.be/vlx5E0tdweQ
- Robin round two: https://youtu.be/QKbb1OkUBo0
- Robin gets banned: https://youtu.be/T2tdCP_gR50
- The recorded Discord conversations that Vi referenced between Robin and Darth Dawkins during SkepGen episode 12: https://youtu.be/FsbAY-4DQvY

50:48
Is street epistemology inherently dishonest? Do people who practice SE rely on dishonest tactics? This is a fascinating conversation, especially from a theist’s perspective. Sam wants to know Vi and Eric’s opinions on this topic. Eric points out that perhaps SE is not inherently dishonest, but rather individuals are using it dishonestly. Vi advises against relying on memorized scripts or gotchas when engaging with others.

1:03:31
Have you heard of the bicameral mind? Josh calls in to discuss Julian Jaynes’s book “The Origin of Consciousness” and get the hosts’ opinion on his hypothesis. Does it present a reasonable explanation for the human desire to create gods? The hosts say it’s definitely an interesting observation, but that we should hold these kinds of unfalsifiable claims loosely, even if they seem to fit well into our worldview.

Also, if you know the Seth Andrews interview Vi mentioned, please drop the link in the comments below! They’d love to credit it directly.

1:15:15
How should you treat a dying parent who wants you to reconvert? Josh tells their story: they made the decision to lie to their dying father to ease his fears of seeing his children and grandchildren in hell. Was it the right call? Vi and Eric think so. In fact, the hosts point out that there is no one right way to act in this situation, and anyone dealing with the death of a parent should be gentle with themselves as they navigate that traumatic situation.

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