20 APR 2024 · Episode 46 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 2 Our deep dive into the Oakland County Child Murders case continues, and in this episode, we look closely at two prominent suspects who may have been ruled out based on the results of polygraph tests alone. Both of these men had records for unspeakable sex crimes against children. Although they look good on paper, the polygraph tests alone seem to have taken them off the suspect list, but can we find something more solid that could perhaps take them off of the suspect list, or will we find something that makes them worthy of being placed back on it? Once again, we are joined by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor in this episode. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

6 APR 2024 · Episode 45 The Oakland County Child Murders Part 1 For just over a one year period between February 1976 and March 1977, four children were abducted and murdered in Oakland County, Michigan. Although two of the victims were boys, and two were girls, and despite clear evidence of rape and binding on the male victims, police came to believe that one killer, or a set of killers was responsible for each abduction and murder. In each case, the victims were held for extended periods of time, fed, and cleaned. Each was re-dressed prior to being disposed of. Fear struck the residents across that area, and most parents were afraid to let their kids go outside alone. Just as suddenly as the murders started, they came to an end. A task force was put together to hunt down the killer or killers. Along the way, they looked into several suspects and local sex offenders of children. They also fielded many tips including one of them that led police to search almost every AMC Gremlin withing sight along with their drivers. In the end, the case went unsolved and remains so to this day. The good news is, there appears to be clues to work with, and physical evidence that may one day solve this case. In part 1 of our investigation into the Oakland County Child Murders, we explore each attack and examine the known clues. We also explore where the victims were abducted from, and where their bodies were dumped, and we are aided by Geographic Profiler Doug MacGregor to see if we can find any clues in the killer's movements.  Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

23 MAR 2024 · Episode 44 Ladies of the Lake Between 1994 and 1997, a serial killer preyed on sex workers in the Parkdale neighborhood of Toronto, Onatario in Canada. The bodies of 3 women were found in or on the shore of Lake Ontario. The crime scenes were nearly identical. Each victim was strangled and violated,then drowned. Other elements of the crime scenes mirrored each other as well,demonstrating a clear signature with each crime.A potential suspect was developed, but for reasons that aren't fully understood, a strong enough case couldn't be made against him and the case remains unsolved. Who killed the Ladies of the Lake? In this episode, the team discusses what potential clues and evidence might finally answer this question. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

9 MAR 2024 · Episode 43 The Dardeen Family Murders In November, 1987, a shocking crime happened in the small community of Ina, Illinois. After failing to show up for work, police were called to a secluded mobile home to do a welfare check on 28 year old Russell Keith Dardeen, and his family. When police entered the trailer through an unlocked door, they were greeted with a gruesome scene. In the bed of the Dardeen bedroom, police found the bodies of 30 year old Ruby Elaine Darlene, and her son 2 year old Peter. They had been beaten to death with a baseball bat that belonged to the Dardeens. Sadly, Elaine was pregnant with the couple's second child; a daughter, and during the beating, Elaine went into labor and delivered her daughter. Coldy, the newborn baby was also beaten to death. Missing from the home was Keith, and his car. Police first suspected that Keth had killed his family and fled, but the mystery deepened when he was found shot to death in a field a mile from his home. His penis had been cut off. It was a ghastly scene. His car was soon found parked very close to the local police station. The Dardeen family murders shocked Ina residents. An investigation by police could reveal no motive for the murders. There was no sign of infidelity, or anything shady in the Dardeen's lives. Robbery also was ruled out because valuable items were left behind, and there was no sign of forced entry. In the weeks and months leading up to the murders, Keith reportedly had been very concerned about crime in the area- so much so, that he planned to move his family out of Ina without even having a new job lined up.  Some people would theorize that Keith was worried about a very specific threat, but what that threat was if there was one, eluded detectives. Because Keith was very wary of letting people into his home, it seemed possible that the Dardeens knew their killer or killers, and let them in.  Without clear suspects, it wasn't long before a violent serial killer named Tommy Lee Sells became a potential POI in the case. He had a history of similar crimes, and admitted to killing the Dardeens. But Sells's story kept changing, and the facts of the case that he gave police had been published in newspapers. So was he the killer of the Dardeens, or a red herring? Police have been tight lipped about the case and what evidence the have, but to date, there have been no arrests. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

2 MAR 2024 · Episode 42 The Tylenol Murders In the Fall of 1982, seven people in the Chicago area fell ill and died after taking over the counter Tylenol that was purchased at various locations across the city. It soon became clear that all seven had died as the result of cyanide poisoning, and city officials working with Tylenol manufacturers raced against time to get the product off of store shelves; sending the public into full fledged panic. The murders were deemed to be the result of product tampering, ushering in new methods of safety sealing the medication; methods which still exist to this day. The authorities didn't have much to work with and sought to ID one bearded man who was captured on grainy store surveillance, but he never came forward, and the murders were never solved. In this episode, the team discusses the clues, possible motives, and a strong potential suspect, as well as copycat crimes that were inspired by the Tylenol murders. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

10 FEB 2024 · Episode 41 Oakey 'AL' Kite Oakey Kite, who went by Al, was a friendly and well-liked 53 year old man living in a home in a quiet section of Aurora, Colorado in May, 2004. When his lifeless body was found in his finished basement apartment, it was quickly obvious to authorities that his death was a homicide, and a brutal one at that. He had been bound, beaten, tortured, and stabbed. A motive for Al's murder was elusive; he didn't have any enemies, and nothing in his personal life seemed to point to a reason that he would be killed in such a brutal fashion. Whoever had killed Al had carefully wiped down the home for prints, sanitized the crime scene, and destroyed potential evidence. It soon became apparent that the suspect in this case was a mysterious man who had answered Al's classified ad offering to rent out his basement apartment. This man it seems used a variety of accents, and disguises, and multiple sketches of the suspect seem to show two different looking men of different ages.It also became clear that this same man may have replied to other area classified ads for rooms to rent before settling on Al as his victim. The man's image was captured on an ATM camera after he used Al's debit card to withdraw money, but he was wearing a mask in the video, so it didn't help much,although, it hasn't stopped some online sleuths from commenting that the man's eyes are very similar to those of serial killer, Israel Keyes- a killer that often used extreme measures like Al's killer to evade detection. Golden State Killer investigator, Paul Holes, looked into this case extensively on his show 'The DNA of Murder' and we consulted him for this episode. Paul is convinced that this killer may have been a 'pro' or hitman that came to the U.S. from another country, and a single bit of DNA blood evidence found at the scene seems to back this up, but to date, Al's killer has evaded capture. In this episode, the team discusses the case, the clues, and the M.O. of the killer, and compares it to other crimes with some similarities. Al's would be renter, who identified himself as "Robert Cooper," claimed to be from the East Coast and to work for Wells Fargo Bank. He provided false identification and contact information on his rental application. Witnesses generally described the suspect male as white, in his forties or fifties, 5’10", 170 to 180 pounds, with black or brown hair. Witnesses reported that he walked with a limp and used a cane, and another reported that he spoke with a possible Romanian accent. If you have any information about the murder of Oakey Albert Kite, please call Detective Thomas Sobieski at 303-739-6710 Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

27 JAN 2024 · Episode 40 The Monster of Florence In this episode, the team explores Italy's most infamous unsolved murder series by a killer dubbed 'The Monster of Florence' For a decade from the mid 1970s until the mid 1980's, the Monster of Florence stalked unsuspecting couples on secluded lover's lane areas, and was responsible for at least 14 murders in the Florence countryside. The attacks were brutal, sadistic, and sexual in nature. Despite a few tantalizing clues; including possible eyewitnesses, and a letter mailed to police which included the flesh of one of his victims, this diabolical killer was never caught. In this episode, the team discusses the known victims, as well as other potential cases he may be linked to, and analyzes potential suspects. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

13 JAN 2024 · Episode 39 The Black Dahlia; Rosenda Mondragon In our continuing coverage of the Black Dahlia murder, we look closely at the case of 20 year old Rosenda Mondragon to see if her murder may be connected to the Black Dahlia murder, Rosenda's nude and possibly mutilated body was found in Los Angeles in July, 1947. She had been strangled with a silk stocking. There were clues to work with along with eyewitnesses that provided information to police, but the case went cold, and to this day, it's not clear if her death is connected to the Black Dahlia murder. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

16 DEC 2023 · Episode 38 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 3 In our final episode of 2023, we continue our exploration of the murder of of 'The Black Dahlia'; Elizabeth Smart. In this chapter, we look at other cases that may be connected to Elizabeth's murder, and consider possible suspects. Happy Holidays from the Citizen Detective team! We will return in January, 2024 with an all new episode. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective

2 DEC 2023 · Episode 37 'The Black Dahlia' Elizabeth Short Part 2 In this episode, we continue our deep dive into the case of Elizabeth Short,AKA 'The Black Dahlia' whose 1947 murder shocked LA residents. We take a closer look at both her final days, and the people that interacted with her, and we also begin to talk about some suspects. Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/abjack-entertainment/id6462151422?itsct=podcast_box_promote_link that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Alternatively, you can support Citizen Detective with a https://www.patreon.com/CitizenDetective. To find out how to join us live as we record each new episode of Citizen Detective, follow us on Social Media. Twitter- https://twitter.com/CitizenDPod Facebook Home Page- https://www.facebook.com/CitizenDetectivePodcast Facebook Discussion group- https://www.facebook.com/groups/233261280919915 Instagram- https://www.instagram.com/citizendpod/?hl=en Youtube- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSgvqIuf4-sEF2aDdNGip2w Visit our homepage: Citizendetectivepodcast.com Want to listen to this episode, and every episode of Citizen Detective AD-FREE plus get VIP bonus access to our show 'The Scrum'? Visit Apple Podcasts to get an AbJack Insider subscription that will grant you VIP access not only to this show, but to every other show on the network; access that includes early and ad-free content, and bonus episodes. Continue the conversation about this case with fellow Citizen Detectives over at Websleuths: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/forums/citizen-detective-true-crime-podcast.719/ The Citizen Detective team includes: Co-Hosts- Mike Morford, Alex Ralph, and Dr. Lee Mellor Writing and Research- Alex Ralph Technical Producer- Andrew Gray Production Assistant- Ashley Monroe Suzanna Ryan- DNA Expert Cloyd Steiger- Retired Seattle PD Homicide Detective