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So, if the position disappeared tomorrow, who would you still be?]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/7263390/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Society &amp; Culture</category><copyright>Copyright Michael Chism</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg</url><title>The Person behind the Position</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-person-behind-the-position--7263390</link></image><lastBuildDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2026 17:06:10 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Michael Chism</itunes:name><itunes:email>behindtheposition@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>We often know what people do before we ever know who they are. The Person Behind the Position goes beyond titles, résumés, accomplishments, and expectations to discover the person carrying them. Through honest conversations with people from all walks...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We often know what people do before we ever know who they are. The Person Behind the Position goes beyond titles, résumés, accomplishments, and expectations to discover the person carrying them. Through honest conversations with people from all walks of life, Michael Chism explores the experiences, struggles, lessons, mistakes, growth, and relationships that shape who we are and how we show up in the positions we hold. Because the position doesn't make the person. Who we are affects how we show up in the position. So, if the position disappeared tomorrow, who would you still be?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:category text="Business"/><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><podcast:guid>5700565d-6e11-5df1-b4ba-6e95a4b9972a</podcast:guid><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>“Learning to Give Myself Grace”with Yolanda Fraction</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/learning-to-give-myself-grace-with-yolanda-fraction--75847832</link><description><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Yolanda Fraction. What happens when you're able to recognize the needs, limitations, and struggles of everyone around you, but have difficulty extending that same understanding to yourself?For nearly 20 years, Yolanda Fraction has worked in education, organizational development, and the workplace, helping people learn, grow, and navigate professional challenges.But behind her experience and accomplishments is someone who admits that one of her greatest challenges has been learning to give herself grace.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Yolanda for an honest conversation about identity, expectations, perfectionism, and the pressure to always get things right.Yolanda reflects on growing up in a small town as a minister's daughter, where expectations shaped how she presented herself to others. She discusses the pressures of being a first-generation college student, navigating professional spaces where she sometimes felt she couldn't afford to make mistakes, and learning when to speak up and when to protect herself.She also shares how professional rejection challenged her confidence, why seeking support through coaching and therapy became important, and what she's discovering about allowing herself the same compassion she readily offers others.Their conversation raises an important question: Why is it sometimes easier to recognize someone else's humanity than to accept our own? Through it all, Yolanda reveals something that has remained consistent across her changing positions: her heart for people and her desire to serve.A question to consider: Are you holding yourself to expectations you would never place on someone else? The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75847832</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75847832/utf_8_q_conversation_with_yolanda_10_18_26_12_35_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="37311969" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8/a920a617-5311-4cd5-9aa0-360050e399c8.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Yolanda Fraction. What happens when you're able to recognize the needs, limitations, and struggles of everyone around you, but have difficulty extending that same understanding to yourself?For nearly 20...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Yolanda Fraction. What happens when you're able to recognize the needs, limitations, and struggles of everyone around you, but have difficulty extending that same understanding to yourself?For nearly 20 years, Yolanda Fraction has worked in education, organizational development, and the workplace, helping people learn, grow, and navigate professional challenges.But behind her experience and accomplishments is someone who admits that one of her greatest challenges has been learning to give herself grace.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Yolanda for an honest conversation about identity, expectations, perfectionism, and the pressure to always get things right.Yolanda reflects on growing up in a small town as a minister's daughter, where expectations shaped how she presented herself to others. She discusses the pressures of being a first-generation college student, navigating professional spaces where she sometimes felt she couldn't afford to make mistakes, and learning when to speak up and when to protect herself.She also shares how professional rejection challenged her confidence, why seeking support through coaching and therapy became important, and what she's discovering about allowing herself the same compassion she readily offers others.Their conversation raises an important question: Why is it sometimes easier to recognize someone else's humanity than to accept our own? Through it all, Yolanda reveals something that has remained consistent across her changing positions: her heart for people and her desire to serve.A question to consider: Are you holding yourself to expectations you would never place on someone else? The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1555</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bec0631c06ab329dbbe50696d498fd6a.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When Calling Becomes Identity with Mike Muccio</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-calling-becomes-identity-with-mike-muccio--75731746</link><description><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Michael Muccio. Can you become so committed to your calling that you begin losing sight of the person behind it?Michael Muccio built a successful career in hospitality before an unexpected encounter with legendary motivational speaker Zig Ziglar helped change the direction of his life. What followed was a journey through business consulting, ministry, leadership, and eventually writing.But somewhere along the way, Michael discovered that even meaningful work can come at a personal cost.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Michael Muccio for a candid conversation about success, faith, purpose, and the difficult lessons that come when our responsibilities begin overshadowing our relationships.Michael reflects on a season when his identity as a pastor became so consuming that he lost sight of the husband and father he wanted to be. He shares what that realization taught him about his relationship with God, the people closest to him, and the difference between pursuing excellence and finding genuine fulfillment.The conversation also explores a vision that stayed with him for 35 years and eventually inspired his novel, Evil's First Breath.Through changing careers, unexpected lessons, and personal reflection, Michael's story raises a question that extends beyond ministry:What happens when the work we believe we're called to do begins taking the place of the person we're called to be?Because even when the work is meaningful, the person behind the position still matters.The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75731746</guid><pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 13:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75731746/utf_8_q_conversation_with_michael_mu_utf_8_q_ccio_10_12_26_1_17_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="36027999" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51/60de97d1-4c0f-4d1e-81b4-a6f420168a51.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Michael Muccio. Can you become so committed to your calling that you begin losing sight of the person behind it?Michael Muccio built a successful career in hospitality before an unexpected encounter with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Michael Muccio. Can you become so committed to your calling that you begin losing sight of the person behind it?Michael Muccio built a successful career in hospitality before an unexpected encounter with legendary motivational speaker Zig Ziglar helped change the direction of his life. What followed was a journey through business consulting, ministry, leadership, and eventually writing.But somewhere along the way, Michael discovered that even meaningful work can come at a personal cost.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Michael Muccio for a candid conversation about success, faith, purpose, and the difficult lessons that come when our responsibilities begin overshadowing our relationships.Michael reflects on a season when his identity as a pastor became so consuming that he lost sight of the husband and father he wanted to be. He shares what that realization taught him about his relationship with God, the people closest to him, and the difference between pursuing excellence and finding genuine fulfillment.The conversation also explores a vision that stayed with him for 35 years and eventually inspired his novel, Evil's First Breath.Through changing careers, unexpected lessons, and personal reflection, Michael's story raises a question that extends beyond ministry:What happens when the work we believe we're called to do begins taking the place of the person we're called to be?Because even when the work is meaningful, the person behind the position still matters.The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1502</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/66f373264467736b05402a0652bc9cbc.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When Achievement Isn't Enough with Mike Enos</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-achievement-isn-t-enough-with-mike-enos--75730786</link><description><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Mike Enos. What happens when you've accomplished everything you thought would make you happy, only to discover that something is still missing?For 25 years, Mike Enos followed the path he believed would lead to success. He earned a PhD, climbed the corporate ladder, held executive leadership positions, and built an impressive career. But with every accomplishment came the same question: What's next?Eventually, another question began to surface: Is this it?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Mike to explore what happens when achievement becomes part of our identity and the life we've worked so hard to build no longer feels fulfilling.Mike shares what happened when he walked away from his executive career without another position lined up, the uncertainty that followed, and his unexpected journey through endurance challenges, including an Ironman, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, and attempting a 100-mile ultramarathon.Along the way, he discovered something that years of professional success hadn't taught him: sometimes the greatest lessons come when we stop measuring ourselves by what we accomplish.Their conversation explores ambition, identity, failure, uncertainty, and the courage to question the expectations we've spent our lives trying to meet.A question to consider: Are you living the life you truly want, or are you following a script someone else wrote for you? Because sometimes the question isn't whether we've achieved enough. It's whether we've discovered who we are beyond those achievements.The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75730786</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2026 13:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75730786/utf_8_q_conversation_with_mike_enos_10_12_26_12_01_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="34423036" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c/5c8a5e2c-de23-467c-b280-c298de6a150c.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Mike Enos. What happens when you've accomplished everything you thought would make you happy, only to discover that something is still missing?For 25 years, Mike Enos followed the path he believed would lead...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Person Behind the Position | Featuring Mike Enos. What happens when you've accomplished everything you thought would make you happy, only to discover that something is still missing?For 25 years, Mike Enos followed the path he believed would lead to success. He earned a PhD, climbed the corporate ladder, held executive leadership positions, and built an impressive career. But with every accomplishment came the same question: What's next?Eventually, another question began to surface: Is this it?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Mike to explore what happens when achievement becomes part of our identity and the life we've worked so hard to build no longer feels fulfilling.Mike shares what happened when he walked away from his executive career without another position lined up, the uncertainty that followed, and his unexpected journey through endurance challenges, including an Ironman, climbing Mount Kilimanjaro, and attempting a 100-mile ultramarathon.Along the way, he discovered something that years of professional success hadn't taught him: sometimes the greatest lessons come when we stop measuring ourselves by what we accomplish.Their conversation explores ambition, identity, failure, uncertainty, and the courage to question the expectations we've spent our lives trying to meet.A question to consider: Are you living the life you truly want, or are you following a script someone else wrote for you? Because sometimes the question isn't whether we've achieved enough. It's whether we've discovered who we are beyond those achievements.The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1435</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/01464413fb6f7fa851c6bafad9e9e1bc.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>I am not my position or am I?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/i-am-not-my-position-or-am-i--75847496</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when the positions you've spent years building your life around suddenly disappear?For years, Michael Chism was known by many titles: pastor, professor, author, real estate agent, and human resources professional. Each position came with responsibilities, opportunities, and the feeling of being needed.But when those positions were no longer part of his everyday life, Michael found himself confronting a question he hadn't fully considered:Who am I when I'm no longer doing the things I've always done?<br /><br />In this deeply personal solo episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on a season of professional loss, financial uncertainty, unanswered questions, and unexpected self-discovery. From struggling to find employment and publishing books that didn't produce the results he'd hoped for, to returning to pastoral ministry and recognizing strengths he had overlooked, Michael shares what he's learning about the difference between what we do and who we are.This isn't a story about everything finally falling into place. It's about discovering that our worth, identity, and ability to grow don't have to disappear when our circumstances change.A question to consider: If every title and position you hold disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are? The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75847496</guid><pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75847496/utf_8_q_i_am_not_my_position_or_am_i_10_18_26_11_43_e2_80_afam_mp3.mp3" length="13487042" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0/0f1380db-8f9f-466e-8c9d-3b56aebd37a0.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when the positions you've spent years building your life around suddenly disappear?For years, Michael Chism was known by many titles: pastor, professor, author, real estate agent, and human resources professional. Each position came with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when the positions you've spent years building your life around suddenly disappear?For years, Michael Chism was known by many titles: pastor, professor, author, real estate agent, and human resources professional. Each position came with responsibilities, opportunities, and the feeling of being needed.But when those positions were no longer part of his everyday life, Michael found himself confronting a question he hadn't fully considered:Who am I when I'm no longer doing the things I've always done?<br /><br />In this deeply personal solo episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on a season of professional loss, financial uncertainty, unanswered questions, and unexpected self-discovery. From struggling to find employment and publishing books that didn't produce the results he'd hoped for, to returning to pastoral ministry and recognizing strengths he had overlooked, Michael shares what he's learning about the difference between what we do and who we are.This isn't a story about everything finally falling into place. It's about discovering that our worth, identity, and ability to grow don't have to disappear when our circumstances change.A question to consider: If every title and position you hold disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are? The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>562</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>I Can Recreate Myself Again</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/i-can-recreate-myself-again--75691293</link><description><![CDATA[For Joy Yafit Pascal, a backpacking adventure in Nepal became a defining moment when a rafting accident left her fighting to survive in a powerful river. But surviving the accident was only part of the story. She still had to find the courage to continue the journey.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Joy to explore the expectations that shape our lives, the fear of following a path someone else has already written for us, and what happens when circumstances force us to rethink how we move forward.Joy reflects on navigating uncertainty, learning to distinguish between what she can and cannot control, and discovering that the strength she spent years searching for was already within her.Their conversation raises a question that reaches beyond professional success: Are we simply following the life we're expected to live, or are we creating a life that actually means something to us?Because sometimes discovering who we are isn't about finding something new. It's about recognizing what has been within us all along.A question to consider: If life suddenly changed tomorrow, what would you discover about your ability to begin again?The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75691293</guid><pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75691293/utf_8_q_conversation_with_joy_10_10_26_3_07_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="39915646" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a/c1d0f11d-5af8-4f5a-898b-e1af7f472c5a.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For Joy Yafit Pascal, a backpacking adventure in Nepal became a defining moment when a rafting accident left her fighting to survive in a powerful river. But surviving the accident was only part of the story. She still had to find the courage to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[For Joy Yafit Pascal, a backpacking adventure in Nepal became a defining moment when a rafting accident left her fighting to survive in a powerful river. But surviving the accident was only part of the story. She still had to find the courage to continue the journey.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Joy to explore the expectations that shape our lives, the fear of following a path someone else has already written for us, and what happens when circumstances force us to rethink how we move forward.Joy reflects on navigating uncertainty, learning to distinguish between what she can and cannot control, and discovering that the strength she spent years searching for was already within her.Their conversation raises a question that reaches beyond professional success: Are we simply following the life we're expected to live, or are we creating a life that actually means something to us?Because sometimes discovering who we are isn't about finding something new. It's about recognizing what has been within us all along.A question to consider: If life suddenly changed tomorrow, what would you discover about your ability to begin again?The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1664</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b629bf0d9101c0cb1f3d44ef8aa3b55a.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When Success Becomes Who You Are</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-success-becomes-who-you-are--75690157</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when the business you're building becomes the measure of who you are?For Steve Barton, growing a business from $200,000 to $2 million wasn't simply a professional achievement. It raises a deeper question about the relationship between success, ambition, and personal identity.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Steve Barton to explore what happens to the person while the business is growing. They examine the expectations that come with success and the challenge of recognizing who we are beyond what we've accomplished.Because building something successful and building a life that reflects who you are aren't necessarily the same thing.Here's a question worth considering: If everything you've worked to build disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are?The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75690157</guid><pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2026 13:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75690157/utf_8_q_steve_barton_10_10_26_12_52_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="37597227" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc/9861a876-8c09-4e42-becf-8423f522cebc.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when the business you're building becomes the measure of who you are?For Steve Barton, growing a business from $200,000 to $2 million wasn't simply a professional achievement. It raises a deeper question about the relationship between...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when the business you're building becomes the measure of who you are?For Steve Barton, growing a business from $200,000 to $2 million wasn't simply a professional achievement. It raises a deeper question about the relationship between success, ambition, and personal identity.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Steve Barton to explore what happens to the person while the business is growing. They examine the expectations that come with success and the challenge of recognizing who we are beyond what we've accomplished.Because building something successful and building a life that reflects who you are aren't necessarily the same thing.Here's a question worth considering: If everything you've worked to build disappeared tomorrow, would you still know who you are?The Person Behind the Position — Because behind every title is a person.<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1567</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/133cf189246ac6585cba689c354c270b.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Successful but not Satisfied</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/successful-but-not-satisfied--75318299</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when you’ve built a successful life but realize you’re not satisfied with the life you’re living?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Ted Kopecko, an architect, entrepreneur, businessman, real estate investor, and author of Finding Joy.Ted shares the personal experiences that forced him to reconsider what success meant—including watching his father suffer a massive stroke just two years into retirement and recognizing that, despite building a very different career, he might be heading down a similar path.The conversation explores success, satisfaction, family, purpose, giving, and the difference between staying busy building a life and actually living one that feels like your own.And when the accomplishments, businesses, titles, and even the book are stripped away, Michael asks the question at the heart of every episode:Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75318299</guid><pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2026 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75318299/successful_but_not_satisfied.mp3" length="55323294" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5/059225fc-6aa9-4d36-82fd-d290140eadf5.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when you’ve built a successful life but realize you’re not satisfied with the life you’re living?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Ted Kopecko, an architect, entrepreneur, businessman, real...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when you’ve built a successful life but realize you’re not satisfied with the life you’re living?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Ted Kopecko, an architect, entrepreneur, businessman, real estate investor, and author of Finding Joy.Ted shares the personal experiences that forced him to reconsider what success meant—including watching his father suffer a massive stroke just two years into retirement and recognizing that, despite building a very different career, he might be heading down a similar path.The conversation explores success, satisfaction, family, purpose, giving, and the difference between staying busy building a life and actually living one that feels like your own.And when the accomplishments, businesses, titles, and even the book are stripped away, Michael asks the question at the heart of every episode:Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2305</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a5b62503a88882036303be9f01df5149.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>I Need Me</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/i-need-me--75213342</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when nobody needs you anymore?For years, Michael Chism was needed. As a pastor, HR leader, professor, and professional, there was always somewhere to be, someone calling, something to solve, or someone depending on him.Then the calls stopped. The calendar cleared. The responsibilities disappeared.And for perhaps the first time, it was just Michael.In this solo episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on what he discovered when the positions that once required so much of him were no longer there—and the realization that changed the way he began looking at himself:If they don’t need me, I need me.But accepting that truth raised another question: What do I need me to do?This is an honest reflection on identity, self-worth, showing up for yourself, and learning to believe that who you are remains even when the positions change.Because before anyone else needs you, you need you.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75213342</guid><pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75213342/utf_8_q_i_needed_me_9_18_26_12_26_e2_80_afpm_wav.mp3" length="8917695" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977/cd7fabe6-93aa-490a-b6a5-056295d54977.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when nobody needs you anymore?For years, Michael Chism was needed. As a pastor, HR leader, professor, and professional, there was always somewhere to be, someone calling, something to solve, or someone depending on him.Then the calls...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when nobody needs you anymore?For years, Michael Chism was needed. As a pastor, HR leader, professor, and professional, there was always somewhere to be, someone calling, something to solve, or someone depending on him.Then the calls stopped. The calendar cleared. The responsibilities disappeared.And for perhaps the first time, it was just Michael.In this solo episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on what he discovered when the positions that once required so much of him were no longer there—and the realization that changed the way he began looking at himself:If they don’t need me, I need me.But accepting that truth raised another question: What do I need me to do?This is an honest reflection on identity, self-worth, showing up for yourself, and learning to believe that who you are remains even when the positions change.Because before anyone else needs you, you need you.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>558</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Three Things Everyone Needs</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-three-things-everyone-needs--75024789</link><description><![CDATA[The Three Things Everyone Needs What do decades of climbing mountains, building a business, developing teams, and taking risks teach you about what really matters? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with David Lengyel, whose journey has taken him from studying plant physiology and soils chemistry to mountaineering, adventure travel, and eventually pioneering work in team building. But this conversation isn't simply about David's career. David reflects on the shy, introverted young man he once was, how taking risks helped him develop confidence, why failure is necessary for growth, and how his understanding of success has changed over the years. And when asked what might never appear on his résumé, David shares a simple belief developed through a lifetime of experience: Everybody needs three things: something to work on, something to believe in, and something to look forward to. It's a conversation about growth, relationships, letting go, and discovering what remains when the accomplishments and positions are no longer the most important part of the story. Because behind the mountaineer, entrepreneur, coach, and businessman is something much simpler: a father, a person still growing, and a man preparing to pass what he's built to the next generation. Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75024789</guid><pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2026 13:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75024789/interview_with_david.mp3" length="39523183" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229/96745de2-ea1f-40e9-8616-d8cfa5c89229.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Three Things Everyone Needs What do decades of climbing mountains, building a business, developing teams, and taking risks teach you about what really matters? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with David...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Three Things Everyone Needs What do decades of climbing mountains, building a business, developing teams, and taking risks teach you about what really matters? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with David Lengyel, whose journey has taken him from studying plant physiology and soils chemistry to mountaineering, adventure travel, and eventually pioneering work in team building. But this conversation isn't simply about David's career. David reflects on the shy, introverted young man he once was, how taking risks helped him develop confidence, why failure is necessary for growth, and how his understanding of success has changed over the years. And when asked what might never appear on his résumé, David shares a simple belief developed through a lifetime of experience: Everybody needs three things: something to work on, something to believe in, and something to look forward to. It's a conversation about growth, relationships, letting go, and discovering what remains when the accomplishments and positions are no longer the most important part of the story. Because behind the mountaineer, entrepreneur, coach, and businessman is something much simpler: a father, a person still growing, and a man preparing to pass what he's built to the next generation. Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1647</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c7b64926c81d09c4d5e8c15adb3c4b8b.jpg"/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Parts of Ourselves We Hide at Work</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-parts-of-ourselves-we-hide-at-work--75017276</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when getting the position means feeling like you have to hide part of who you are? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Julie Gartell for a candid conversation about career, motherhood, expectations, and the pressure to prove yourself at work. Julie shares the experience of starting a new position while raising infant twins—and being advised not to tell her employer that she needed to leave at 5:00. What followed was more than a conversation about work schedules. It raised a deeper question about how much of ourselves we believe we're allowed to bring into the workplace. Together, Michael and Julie explore the pressure to perform, the need to prove our commitment, and what can happen when our professional identity seems to conflict with the other parts of who we are. Because sometimes the person behind the position isn't trying to escape the position. They're trying to figure out how much of themselves they're allowed to bring into it. Who are you behind the position? You can tind Julie at <a href="https://www.careerprepsolutions.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.careerprepsolutions.com</a> and @careerprepsolutions (tiktok and Instagram). You'll be glad you did!<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75017276</guid><pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2026 05:50:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75017276/utf_8_q_julie_interview_9_9_26_1_45_e2_80_afam_mp3.mp3" length="41413403" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777/43051c55-4048-4ea1-90ef-ffd3b3230777.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when getting the position means feeling like you have to hide part of who you are? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Julie Gartell for a candid conversation about career, motherhood,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when getting the position means feeling like you have to hide part of who you are? In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism sits down with Julie Gartell for a candid conversation about career, motherhood, expectations, and the pressure to prove yourself at work. Julie shares the experience of starting a new position while raising infant twins—and being advised not to tell her employer that she needed to leave at 5:00. What followed was more than a conversation about work schedules. It raised a deeper question about how much of ourselves we believe we're allowed to bring into the workplace. Together, Michael and Julie explore the pressure to perform, the need to prove our commitment, and what can happen when our professional identity seems to conflict with the other parts of who we are. Because sometimes the person behind the position isn't trying to escape the position. They're trying to figure out how much of themselves they're allowed to bring into it. Who are you behind the position? You can tind Julie at <a href="https://www.careerprepsolutions.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">www.careerprepsolutions.com</a> and @careerprepsolutions (tiktok and Instagram). You'll be glad you did!<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1726</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9e9d0f355b4ef193f9e15b0fb33dad15.jpg"/><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>What If I Don't Know?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-if-i-don-t-know--74729505</link><description><![CDATA[Three simple words—“I don’t know”—can carry more weight than we realize. In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism reflects on his own complicated relationship with admitting when he didn’t know something. Sometimes those words brought help. Other times they brought criticism, embarrassment, fear, or the feeling that he simply didn’t measure up. But what happens when not knowing stops being about the answer—and starts affecting how you see yourself? Michael explores the pressure to have answers when people depend on you, the freedom of admitting what you don’t know, and learning to say, “I don’t know, but I’ll find out.” Because the position may come with expectations, but the person behind it is still human. Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74729505</guid><pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74729505/episode_4_what_if_i_don_t_know.mp3" length="23580756" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df/7e6c14e3-e9c2-4e2e-a205-94c92f7d49df.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Three simple words—“I don’t know”—can carry more weight than we realize. In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism reflects on his own complicated relationship with admitting when he didn’t know something. Sometimes those words...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Three simple words—“I don’t know”—can carry more weight than we realize. In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism reflects on his own complicated relationship with admitting when he didn’t know something. Sometimes those words brought help. Other times they brought criticism, embarrassment, fear, or the feeling that he simply didn’t measure up. But what happens when not knowing stops being about the answer—and starts affecting how you see yourself? Michael explores the pressure to have answers when people depend on you, the freedom of admitting what you don’t know, and learning to say, “I don’t know, but I’ll find out.” Because the position may come with expectations, but the person behind it is still human. Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>983</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>We Don't Walk Away Empty</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/we-don-t-walk-away-empty--74543433</link><description><![CDATA[Every position leaves us with something.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on the skills, successes, failures, habits, and lessons we carry from one experience into the next. Years of experience can teach us a lot—but they don't mean we're finished growing.What have your experiences taught you, what are you still carrying, and what might you need to leave behind?We don’t walk away empty.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74543433</guid><pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74543433/episode_3.mp3" length="17517631" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e/5b39b3d2-7c86-4008-82ea-15d23eb5796e.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Every position leaves us with something.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on the skills, successes, failures, habits, and lessons we carry from one experience into the next. Years of experience can teach us a lot—but...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Every position leaves us with something.In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael reflects on the skills, successes, failures, habits, and lessons we carry from one experience into the next. Years of experience can teach us a lot—but they don't mean we're finished growing.What have your experiences taught you, what are you still carrying, and what might you need to leave behind?We don’t walk away empty.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>730</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>·,career,development,growth,lessons,personal,professional,self-awareness</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When the position becomes your identity</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-the-position-becomes-your-identity--74280126</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when what you do becomes who you believe you are?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, we explore how our jobs, titles, and responsibilities can become connected to our identity—and what happens when those positions change or disappear.The position may change, but the person remains.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74280126</guid><pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2026 16:27:51 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74280126/utf_8_q_episode_2_8_18_26_7_45_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="19015388" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5/9cdb9d87-869e-4194-adab-4a5fed6525e5.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when what you do becomes who you believe you are?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, we explore how our jobs, titles, and responsibilities can become connected to our identity—and what happens when those positions change or...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when what you do becomes who you believe you are?In this episode of The Person Behind the Position, we explore how our jobs, titles, and responsibilities can become connected to our identity—and what happens when those positions change or disappear.The position may change, but the person remains.Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>793</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Position Doesn't Make You</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-position-doesn-t-make-you--74178338</link><description><![CDATA[We often introduce ourselves by what we do—pastor, professor, HR director, teacher, executive, line worker. But a position can tell you what someone does without telling you who they are. In the first episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism asks what happens when organizations invest heavily in policies, procedures, systems, performance, and growth—but overlook the development of the people expected to make it all work. What do we miss when we only see someone's position? Are we giving people what they need to succeed, or are we putting them in positions and expecting them to simply figure it out? A position can give you responsibility, authority, opportunity, and visibility. But the position doesn't make you. So, if your position disappeared tomorrow... Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74178338</guid><pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2026 05:42:59 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74178338/utf_8_q_episode_one_8_17_26_1_27_e2_80_afpm_mp3.mp3" length="16875646" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/starship/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac/a956b511-f87a-4874-bd9c-8b3b8c6e0bac.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Michael Chism</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We often introduce ourselves by what we do—pastor, professor, HR director, teacher, executive, line worker. But a position can tell you what someone does without telling you who they are. In the first episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We often introduce ourselves by what we do—pastor, professor, HR director, teacher, executive, line worker. But a position can tell you what someone does without telling you who they are. In the first episode of The Person Behind the Position, Michael Chism asks what happens when organizations invest heavily in policies, procedures, systems, performance, and growth—but overlook the development of the people expected to make it all work. What do we miss when we only see someone's position? Are we giving people what they need to succeed, or are we putting them in positions and expecting them to simply figure it out? A position can give you responsibility, authority, opportunity, and visibility. But the position doesn't make you. So, if your position disappeared tomorrow... Who are you behind the position?<br /><br />We often know people by what they do, but there's always more to the person than the title they carry. The Person Behind the Position explores the stories, experiences, struggles, growth, and humanity that exist beyond the job description. Hosted by Michael Chism. Follow the podcast and join the conversation as we discover the people behind the titles, roles, and responsibilities we encounter every day. Who are you behind the position?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>703</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/53eea96bea15a59d6bf0a6c6eb05e164.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>
