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Hosted by Betsy Gardner, this podcast explores the conversations, decisions, and workplace dynamics that shape modern careers. Each episode breaks down the human side...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Human in the Room podcast is for people figuring out how work actually works.<br /><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner, this podcast explores the conversations, decisions, and workplace dynamics that shape modern careers. Each episode breaks down the human side of leadership development, career growth, workplace culture, people strategy, communication, and the future of work in the age of AI.<br /><br />Designed for emerging leaders, ambitious professionals, and anyone navigating intergenerational workplaces, Human in the Room offers practical insights on managing up, building trust, developing soft skills, leading with judgment, and growing your influence at work.<br /><br />Whether you're early in your career, leading a team, working in human resources, business development, or simply trying to become more effective at work, this podcast helps you build the credibility and human-centered leadership skills that matter most.<br /><br />Subscribe for more episodes on leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br />Learn more at <a href="https://www.humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a> and <a href="https://www.betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Business"/><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Careers"/></itunes:category><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>6. The Future of Creativity Is More Human Than Ever</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/6-the-future-of-creativity-is-more-human-than-ever--73467623</link><description><![CDATA[Can AI replace human creativity? Or is authentic human connection becoming more valuable than ever?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with award-winning advertising executive, copywriter, and creative director <b>Geoff</b> Rogers for a fascinating conversation about creativity, branding, storytelling, trust, leadership, and the future of communication in the age of artificial intelligence.<br /><br />Geoff has spent decades helping iconic brands—including Nike and campaigns featuring Tiger Woods and Lionel Messi—craft messaging that cuts through noise and creates lasting emotional connection. In this conversation, he explains why AI may be able to generate words, but it still struggles to create what truly matters: presence, perspective, authenticity, and trust.<br /><br />Together they explore why consumers increasingly trust people over brands, how the best advertising creates "stopping power," why imperfections often make creative work stronger, and how every professional—not just marketers—must learn to communicate with greater humanity in an AI-powered world.<br /><br />If you're a business leader, entrepreneur, marketer, creator, executive, or simply trying to remain relevant in a rapidly changing workplace, this conversation offers practical insights into how human connection remains the most valuable skill of all.<br /><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br />(00:00) Introduction<br />(02:18) How Storytelling Shapes Great Communicators<br />(05:42) Why Authentic Stories Build Trust<br />(09:15) The "Thingness" That AI Can't Replicate<br />(12:48) Why Brands Struggle to Earn Trust Today<br />(16:34) The Secret Behind Great Copywriting &amp; "Stopping Power"<br />(20:11) Tiger Woods, Nike &amp; the Art of Saying More with Less<br />(24:07) Why Your Perspective Is Your Greatest Competitive Advantage<br />(28:10) AI, Creativity &amp; The Cost of Endless Efficiency<br />(32:05) How Great Ideas Are Actually Created<br />(36:08) Why Human Presence Is Becoming a Superpower<br />(39:22) Final Advice: Make Yourself Unforgettable<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b>-----------------------------------<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Connect with our guest Geoff at: </b><br />Website: https://geoffrogers.net/<br />LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoff-rogers-6861997/<br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> <br /><br />Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization<br /><br />Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:<br /><ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.<br /><br />Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com <br /><br /><b>Credits</b><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner<br />Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73467623</guid><pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2026 11:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73467623/ep06_guest_geoff_rogers.mp3" length="59504038" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Can AI replace human creativity? Or is authentic human connection becoming more valuable than ever?

In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with award-winning advertising executive, copywriter, and creative director...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Can AI replace human creativity? Or is authentic human connection becoming more valuable than ever?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with award-winning advertising executive, copywriter, and creative director <b>Geoff</b> Rogers for a fascinating conversation about creativity, branding, storytelling, trust, leadership, and the future of communication in the age of artificial intelligence.<br /><br />Geoff has spent decades helping iconic brands—including Nike and campaigns featuring Tiger Woods and Lionel Messi—craft messaging that cuts through noise and creates lasting emotional connection. In this conversation, he explains why AI may be able to generate words, but it still struggles to create what truly matters: presence, perspective, authenticity, and trust.<br /><br />Together they explore why consumers increasingly trust people over brands, how the best advertising creates "stopping power," why imperfections often make creative work stronger, and how every professional—not just marketers—must learn to communicate with greater humanity in an AI-powered world.<br /><br />If you're a business leader, entrepreneur, marketer, creator, executive, or simply trying to remain relevant in a rapidly changing workplace, this conversation offers practical insights into how human connection remains the most valuable skill of all.<br /><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br />(00:00) Introduction<br />(02:18) How Storytelling Shapes Great Communicators<br />(05:42) Why Authentic Stories Build Trust<br />(09:15) The "Thingness" That AI Can't Replicate<br />(12:48) Why Brands Struggle to Earn Trust Today<br />(16:34) The Secret Behind Great Copywriting &amp; "Stopping Power"<br />(20:11) Tiger Woods, Nike &amp; the Art of Saying More with Less<br />(24:07) Why Your Perspective Is Your Greatest Competitive Advantage<br />(28:10) AI, Creativity &amp; The Cost of Endless Efficiency<br />(32:05) How Great Ideas Are Actually Created<br />(36:08) Why Human Presence Is Becoming a Superpower<br />(39:22) Final Advice: Make Yourself Unforgettable<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b>-----------------------------------<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Connect with our guest Geoff at: </b><br />Website: https://geoffrogers.net/<br />LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoff-rogers-6861997/<br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2473</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>5. CEO Reacts to LinkedIn Cringe (What Actually Builds Credibility)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/5-ceo-reacts-to-linkedin-cringe-what-actually-builds-credibility--73139585</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Why do so many LinkedIn messages get ignored?</b><br /><br />If you've ever wondered why your networking messages, sales outreach, or cold DMs aren't getting responses, this episode explains exactly why.<br /><br />In this Trust Lab episode of Human in the Room, executive leadership expert Betsy Gardner and co-host Addison Cursey analyze real LinkedIn messages sent to Betsy and explain the hidden communication mistakes that instantly reduce trust.<br /><br />Rather than simply saying "don't do this," they break down each example through the Human in the Room Framework:  Presence, Judgment, Trust.<br /><br />You'll learn why personalization matters more than automation, why AI can't replace human curiosity, and how executives evaluate your communication long before they ever reply.<br /><br />Whether you're in sales, business development, recruiting, leadership, marketing, entrepreneurship, or building your personal brand, these communication lessons apply far beyond LinkedIn.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Topics Covered:</b><br />• LinkedIn networking mistakes<br />• Cold outreach best practices<br />• AI-generated messaging<br />• Business development<br />• Executive communication<br />• Building trust online<br />• Personal branding<br />• Sales psychology<br />• Professional networking<br />• Digital presence<br />• Leadership communication<br />• Human-centered marketing<br /><br />If you're looking to improve your professional communication, increase reply rates, build stronger relationships, and become someone people genuinely want to work with, this episode is for you.<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br />(00:00) Why Most LinkedIn Messages Get Ignored<br />(02:18) The Human in the Room Framework<br />(05:01) LinkedIn Example #1: Selling Without Research<br />(08:27) Why Personalization Builds Trust<br />(11:34) AI Outreach Gone Wrong<br />(14:42) How to Actually Add Value First<br />(17:28) The Problem with Generic Sales Messages<br />(20:36) Keyword Stuffing &amp; Marketing Mistakes<br />(23:18) Why Context Matters in Communication<br />(26:07) Better Ways to Build Professional Relationships<br />(29:18) Small Details That Earn Trust<br />(31:54) Final Takeaways: Be the Human in the Room<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b>-----------------------------------<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br />Follow Human in the Room<br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul>Follow Betsy Gardner<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> <br /><br /><b>Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization</b><br /><br />Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:<br /><ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.<br /><br />Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com <br /><br /><b>Credits</b><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner<br />Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73139585</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2026 12:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73139585/ep05_solo_linkedin_cringe.mp3" length="48953453" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Why do so many LinkedIn messages get ignored?

If you've ever wondered why your networking messages, sales outreach, or cold DMs aren't getting responses, this episode explains exactly why.

In this Trust Lab episode of Human in the Room, executive...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Why do so many LinkedIn messages get ignored?</b><br /><br />If you've ever wondered why your networking messages, sales outreach, or cold DMs aren't getting responses, this episode explains exactly why.<br /><br />In this Trust Lab episode of Human in the Room, executive leadership expert Betsy Gardner and co-host Addison Cursey analyze real LinkedIn messages sent to Betsy and explain the hidden communication mistakes that instantly reduce trust.<br /><br />Rather than simply saying "don't do this," they break down each example through the Human in the Room Framework:  Presence, Judgment, Trust.<br /><br />You'll learn why personalization matters more than automation, why AI can't replace human curiosity, and how executives evaluate your communication long before they ever reply.<br /><br />Whether you're in sales, business development, recruiting, leadership, marketing, entrepreneurship, or building your personal brand, these communication lessons apply far beyond LinkedIn.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Topics Covered:</b><br />• LinkedIn networking mistakes<br />• Cold outreach best practices<br />• AI-generated messaging<br />• Business development<br />• Executive communication<br />• Building trust online<br />• Personal branding<br />• Sales psychology<br />• Professional networking<br />• Digital presence<br />• Leadership communication<br />• Human-centered marketing<br /><br />If you're looking to improve your professional communication, increase reply rates, build stronger relationships, and become someone people genuinely want to work with, this episode is for you.<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br />(00:00) Why Most LinkedIn Messages Get Ignored<br />(02:18) The Human in the Room Framework<br />(05:01) LinkedIn Example #1: Selling Without Research<br />(08:27) Why Personalization Builds Trust<br />(11:34) AI Outreach Gone Wrong<br />(14:42) How to Actually Add Value First<br />(17:28) The Problem with Generic Sales Messages<br />(20:36) Keyword Stuffing &amp; Marketing Mistakes<br />(23:18) Why Context Matters in Communication<br />(26:07) Better Ways to Build Professional Relationships<br />(29:18) Small Details That Earn Trust<br />(31:54) Final Takeaways: Be the Human in the Room<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i></i></b>-----------------------------------<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br />Follow Human in the Room<br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul>Follow Betsy Gardner<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2037</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>4. How Great Leaders Make Better Decisions | Judgment, Trust &amp; Leadership with Katie Yeutter</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/4-how-great-leaders-make-better-decisions-judgment-trust-leadership-with-katie-yeutter--72906751</link><description><![CDATA[<b>How do great leaders make better decisions when there isn't a perfect answer?</b><br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Katie Yeutter, Managing Director of the Rick Goings Institute for Leadership Excellence at Rollins College, to explore leadership decision-making, judgment, trust, resilience, and the human skills leaders need to thrive in today's rapidly changing workplace.<br /><br />The Rick Goings Institute was established through the generosity of former Tupperware CEO Rick Goings to prepare principled leaders who can navigate complexity with confidence, character, and sound judgment. Before joining Rollins College, Katie was the COO of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, where she advanced statewide leadership initiatives and worked alongside executives, business leaders, and policymakers to strengthen Florida's future workforce.<br /><br />Katie is also a seven-time Ironman finisher and English Channel swimmer. Her experience pushing through uncertainty, setbacks, and high-pressure environments has shaped the same leadership principles she now teaches to executives, organizations, and emerging leaders.<br /><br />In this conversation, you'll learn:<br /><ul><li>How great leaders make difficult decisions with incomplete information</li><li>Why judgment may be the most important leadership skill</li><li>How trust is built before results are visible</li><li>What resilience really looks like under pressure</li><li>How self-awareness and situational awareness improve leadership</li><li>Knowing when to persevere and when to change course</li><li>Why traditional leadership training often falls short</li><li>How the Rick Goings Institute is developing the next generation of leaders</li><li>Why human-centered leadership is becoming a competitive advantage in the age of AI</li></ul>Whether you're an executive, entrepreneur, HR leader, manager, business owner, or emerging leader, this conversation offers practical leadership insights you can apply immediately.<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br /><br />(00:00) Why Leadership Begins With Better Decisions<br />(03:14) The Midwest Farm Girl Behind Katie Uter’s Drive<br />(06:42) What the English Channel Teaches About Pressure<br />(10:18) Building Trust Before the Vision Exists<br />(13:42) How Leaders Earn a Seat at the Table<br />(17:08) Why Trust in Yourself Changes Everything<br />(20:35) The Leadership Skill of Judgment Under Pressure<br />(24:06) Knowing When to Keep Going vs. When to Quit<br />(27:41) Can Leadership Judgment Actually Be Taught?<br />(31:04) Why Case Studies Aren’t Enough for Modern Leaders<br />(34:12) How Great Leaders Create the Conditions for Others to Thrive<br />(38:02) The One Leadership Rep Katie Uter Never Skips<br /><br /><b>Connect with Katie Yeutter</b><br />LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katieyeutter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/katieyeutter/ </a><br /><br />The Rick Goings Institute<br />Website: <a href="https://rgi.rollins.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://rgi.rollins.edu/</a><br />Rollins College: <a href="https://www.rollins.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.rollins.edu/</a><br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br /><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter:<br /><a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br /><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a>Follow Human in the Room<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br /><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> <br /><br /><b>Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization</b><br /><br />Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:<ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.<br /><br />Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com <br /><br /><b>Credits</b><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner<br />Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72906751</guid><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72906751/180f2a19_25b7_4826_9c21_cd8e13700dea.mp3" length="59292234" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>How do great leaders make better decisions when there isn't a perfect answer?

In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Katie Yeutter, Managing Director of the Rick Goings Institute for Leadership Excellence at Rollins...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>How do great leaders make better decisions when there isn't a perfect answer?</b><br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Katie Yeutter, Managing Director of the Rick Goings Institute for Leadership Excellence at Rollins College, to explore leadership decision-making, judgment, trust, resilience, and the human skills leaders need to thrive in today's rapidly changing workplace.<br /><br />The Rick Goings Institute was established through the generosity of former Tupperware CEO Rick Goings to prepare principled leaders who can navigate complexity with confidence, character, and sound judgment. Before joining Rollins College, Katie was the COO of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, where she advanced statewide leadership initiatives and worked alongside executives, business leaders, and policymakers to strengthen Florida's future workforce.<br /><br />Katie is also a seven-time Ironman finisher and English Channel swimmer. Her experience pushing through uncertainty, setbacks, and high-pressure environments has shaped the same leadership principles she now teaches to executives, organizations, and emerging leaders.<br /><br />In this conversation, you'll learn:<br /><ul><li>How great leaders make difficult decisions with incomplete information</li><li>Why judgment may be the most important leadership skill</li><li>How trust is built before results are visible</li><li>What resilience really looks like under pressure</li><li>How self-awareness and situational awareness improve leadership</li><li>Knowing when to persevere and when to change course</li><li>Why traditional leadership training often falls short</li><li>How the Rick Goings Institute is developing the next generation of leaders</li><li>Why human-centered leadership is becoming a competitive advantage in the age of AI</li></ul>Whether you're an executive, entrepreneur, HR leader, manager, business owner, or emerging leader, this conversation offers practical leadership insights you can apply immediately.<br /><b><i></i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br /><br />(00:00) Why Leadership Begins With Better Decisions<br />(03:14) The Midwest Farm Girl Behind Katie Uter’s Drive<br />(06:42) What the English Channel Teaches About Pressure<br />(10:18) Building Trust Before the Vision Exists<br />(13:42) How Leaders Earn a Seat at the Table<br />(17:08) Why Trust in Yourself Changes Everything<br />(20:35) The Leadership Skill of Judgment Under Pressure<br />(24:06) Knowing When to Keep Going vs. When to Quit<br />(27:41) Can Leadership Judgment Actually Be Taught?<br />(31:04) Why Case Studies Aren’t Enough for Modern Leaders<br />(34:12) How Great Leaders Create the Conditions for Others to Thrive<br />(38:02) The One Leadership Rep Katie Uter Never Skips<br /><br /><b>Connect with Katie Yeutter</b><br />LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/katieyeutter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/katieyeutter/ </a><br /><br />The Rick Goings Institute<br />Website: <a href="https://rgi.rollins.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://rgi.rollins.edu/</a><br />Rollins College: <a href="https://www.rollins.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.rollins.edu/</a><br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br /><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter:<br /><a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br /><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a>Follow Human in the Room<ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank"...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2466</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>3. The Trust Gap Between Employers and Young Professionals</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/3-the-trust-gap-between-employers-and-young-professionals--72693495</link><description><![CDATA[Why does work feel broken?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner and Addison Kersey dive into the biggest workplace challenges facing employees, managers, and business leaders today.<br /><br />From workplace trust and leadership development to AI in the workplace, employee engagement, company culture, and generational differences, this conversation explores why so many organizations struggle to attract, retain, and develop great talent.<br /><br />Betsy brings the perspective of a seasoned CEO and executive leader, while Addison offers the perspective of a rising professional navigating the realities of modern work. Together, they break down the growing trust gap between employees and employers, discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping careers, and explain why the future belongs to people who can build credibility, judgment, and human connection.<br /><br />Whether you're a CEO, manager, entrepreneur, HR professional, young professional, or emerging leader, this episode offers practical insights into leadership, communication, career growth, workplace culture, employee retention, professional development, and the future of work.<br /><br />Topics Covered:<br /><ul><li>Workplace trust</li><li>Leadership development</li><li>AI and the future of work</li><li>Employee engagement</li><li>Career growth strategies</li><li>Professional development</li><li>Generational differences in the workplace</li><li>Company culture</li><li>Communication skills</li><li>Building credibility at work</li></ul>Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, trust, communication, workplace culture, and thriving in the credibility economy.<br /><br /><b><i> </i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br /><br />(00:00) Why Work Feels Broken Today<br />(02:45) The Conversations That Sparked Human in the Room<br />(05:28) What "Managing Up" Really Means<br />(08:02) Why Young Workers Struggle to Trust Employers<br />(10:55) The Impact of AI, Layoffs, and Career Uncertainty<br />(13:42) Building Trust Through Leadership and Mentorship<br />(16:18) Generational Differences and Workplace Expectations<br />(19:04) The Lost Workplace Playbook<br />(21:48) Why Clear Career Paths Matter More Than Ever<br />(24:15) AI, Career Development, and the Skills Gap<br />(27:02) The Human in the Room Framework for Success<br />(30:10) Moving From the Competency Economy to the Credibility Economy<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> <br /><b></b><br /><b>Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization</b><br />Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:<ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.<br /><br />Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com <br /><br /><b>Credits:</b><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner<br />Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72693495</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:00:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72693495/ep03_guest_addison_cursey.mp3" length="46541604" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Why does work feel broken?

In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner and Addison Kersey dive into the biggest workplace challenges facing employees, managers, and business leaders today.

From workplace trust and leadership development to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Why does work feel broken?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner and Addison Kersey dive into the biggest workplace challenges facing employees, managers, and business leaders today.<br /><br />From workplace trust and leadership development to AI in the workplace, employee engagement, company culture, and generational differences, this conversation explores why so many organizations struggle to attract, retain, and develop great talent.<br /><br />Betsy brings the perspective of a seasoned CEO and executive leader, while Addison offers the perspective of a rising professional navigating the realities of modern work. Together, they break down the growing trust gap between employees and employers, discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping careers, and explain why the future belongs to people who can build credibility, judgment, and human connection.<br /><br />Whether you're a CEO, manager, entrepreneur, HR professional, young professional, or emerging leader, this episode offers practical insights into leadership, communication, career growth, workplace culture, employee retention, professional development, and the future of work.<br /><br />Topics Covered:<br /><ul><li>Workplace trust</li><li>Leadership development</li><li>AI and the future of work</li><li>Employee engagement</li><li>Career growth strategies</li><li>Professional development</li><li>Generational differences in the workplace</li><li>Company culture</li><li>Communication skills</li><li>Building credibility at work</li></ul>Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, trust, communication, workplace culture, and thriving in the credibility economy.<br /><br /><b><i> </i></b><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:</i></b><br /><br />(00:00) Why Work Feels Broken Today<br />(02:45) The Conversations That Sparked Human in the Room<br />(05:28) What "Managing Up" Really Means<br />(08:02) Why Young Workers Struggle to Trust Employers<br />(10:55) The Impact of AI, Layoffs, and Career Uncertainty<br />(13:42) Building Trust Through Leadership and Mentorship<br />(16:18) Generational Differences and Workplace Expectations<br />(19:04) The Lost Workplace Playbook<br />(21:48) Why Clear Career Paths Matter More Than Ever<br />(24:15) AI, Career Development, and the Skills Gap<br />(27:02) The Human in the Room Framework for Success<br />(30:10) Moving From the Competency Economy to the Credibility Economy<br /><br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a><br /><br /><b>Website</b><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1937</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>2. What Every College Graduate Needs to Hear Right Now</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/2-what-every-college-graduate-needs-to-hear-right-now--72484550</link><description><![CDATA[Is Gen Z really unprepared for the workforce—or are we missing the bigger picture?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Annie Sallick, a senior at Rollins College, collegiate tennis player, and emerging leader, to discuss what it's really like to be graduating into an economy shaped by artificial intelligence, uncertainty, and changing workplace expectations.<br /><br />From fears about AI replacing jobs to concerns about receiving feedback, resilience, workplace culture, and career development, Annie offers a candid look at the challenges facing her generation—and why she remains optimistic about the future.<br /><br />Joined by Addison Cursey, the conversation explores why employers continue to value critical thinking, communication skills, emotional intelligence, adaptability, and relationship-building over technical skills alone.<br /><br />In this episode, you'll learn:<br />-Why Gen Z feels anxious about entering the workforce<br />-The impact of AI on young professionals<br />-What employers are actually looking for in new hires<br />-Why resilience is the ultimate career advantage<br />-How college athletics prepares students for leadership<br />-The importance of receiving feedback and failing well<br />-Why relationships still matter in a digital world<br />-How to stand out in an AI-driven economy<br />-What human skills will never be automated<br /><br />Whether you're a college student, recent graduate, parent, manager, entrepreneur, or business leader, this episode offers practical insights on navigating uncertainty and building a meaningful career in the future of work.<br /><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:<br /></i></b><br /><br /><i>00:00 Why Gen Z Isn't the Problem<br />03:12 Annie's Biggest Fear About the Future<br />06:41 What Does "Be Yourself at Work" Actually Mean?<br />09:58 The Stereotypes Facing Gen Z<br />13:20 How Tennis Built Resilience and Confidence<br />16:55 What Employers Really Want<br />20:15 AI, Critical Thinking &amp; Human Skills<br />23:58 Why Young People Are Anxious About Work<br />27:35 The Truth About Feedback and Growth<br />31:08 What Older Generations Need to Understand<br />35:12 Relationships, Resilience &amp; Career Success<br />38:15 The Human Skills AI Can't Replace</i><br /><i></i><br />-----------------------------------<br /><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a>Website<br /><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> <br /><br />Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization<br /><br />Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:<br /><ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.<br /><br />Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com <br /><br />-----------------------------------<br /><b>Credits</b><br />Hosted by Betsy Gardner<br />Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72484550</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 13:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72484550/ep02_guest_annie_sallick.mp3" length="58053807" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Is Gen Z really unprepared for the workforce—or are we missing the bigger picture?

In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Annie Sallick, a senior at Rollins College, collegiate tennis player, and emerging leader, to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Is Gen Z really unprepared for the workforce—or are we missing the bigger picture?<br /><br />In this episode of Human in the Room, Betsy Gardner sits down with Annie Sallick, a senior at Rollins College, collegiate tennis player, and emerging leader, to discuss what it's really like to be graduating into an economy shaped by artificial intelligence, uncertainty, and changing workplace expectations.<br /><br />From fears about AI replacing jobs to concerns about receiving feedback, resilience, workplace culture, and career development, Annie offers a candid look at the challenges facing her generation—and why she remains optimistic about the future.<br /><br />Joined by Addison Cursey, the conversation explores why employers continue to value critical thinking, communication skills, emotional intelligence, adaptability, and relationship-building over technical skills alone.<br /><br />In this episode, you'll learn:<br />-Why Gen Z feels anxious about entering the workforce<br />-The impact of AI on young professionals<br />-What employers are actually looking for in new hires<br />-Why resilience is the ultimate career advantage<br />-How college athletics prepares students for leadership<br />-The importance of receiving feedback and failing well<br />-Why relationships still matter in a digital world<br />-How to stand out in an AI-driven economy<br />-What human skills will never be automated<br /><br />Whether you're a college student, recent graduate, parent, manager, entrepreneur, or business leader, this episode offers practical insights on navigating uncertainty and building a meaningful career in the future of work.<br /><br /><b><i>Time Stamps:<br /></i></b><br /><br /><i>00:00 Why Gen Z Isn't the Problem<br />03:12 Annie's Biggest Fear About the Future<br />06:41 What Does "Be Yourself at Work" Actually Mean?<br />09:58 The Stereotypes Facing Gen Z<br />13:20 How Tennis Built Resilience and Confidence<br />16:55 What Employers Really Want<br />20:15 AI, Critical Thinking &amp; Human Skills<br />23:58 Why Young People Are Anxious About Work<br />27:35 The Truth About Feedback and Growth<br />31:08 What Older Generations Need to Understand<br />35:12 Relationships, Resilience &amp; Career Success<br />38:15 The Human Skills AI Can't Replace</i><br /><i></i><br />-----------------------------------<br /><br /><br />Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.<br /><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br />Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a>Website<br /><br />Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a><br /><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br />Get Human in the Room by Betsy...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2415</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>1. Why Work Feels Broken Right Now</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/1-why-work-feels-broken-right-now--72219126</link><description><![CDATA[Why does work feel broken right now? Why are recent graduates losing faith in AI, leadership, and the future of work altogether?<br /><br />In this powerful episode of Human in the Room, Betsy explores the growing backlash against AI, the collapse of workplace mentorship, and the rising anxiety surrounding career development, remote work culture, and leadership in a post-pandemic world.<br /><br />As headlines continue to warn about AI replacing jobs, younger generations are entering the workforce feeling uncertain, disconnected, and overwhelmed. Meanwhile, senior leaders are struggling to adapt to rapidly shifting expectations around communication, professionalism, authenticity, trust, and workplace culture.<br /><br />This episode dives deep into:<br /><ul><li>Why AI is triggering fear and mistrust among young professionals</li><li>The disappearance of entry-level apprenticeship opportunities</li><li>How remote work disrupted mentorship and workplace culture</li><li>Why soft skills matter more than ever</li><li>The leadership gap emerging between generations</li><li>What “good judgment” actually looks like in the workplace</li><li>How to build trust, presence, and credibility in your career</li><li>Why mentorship must become intentional in today’s world</li><li>The hidden loneliness behind modern work culture</li><li>How young professionals can stand out in an AI-driven workforce</li></ul>Betsy also shares practical advice for graduates and early-career professionals on managing up, building trust with leadership, creating mentorship opportunities, and developing the human skills AI cannot replace.<br /><br />If you care about leadership development, workplace culture, career growth, emotional intelligence, communication skills, or the future of work, this episode is essential listening.<br /><br />-----------------------<br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br /><b>Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Website </b><br /><b>Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:</b><br /><ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and speaking engagements</li><li>Team workshops and assessments</li></ul><b>Topics include communication, trust, managing up, intergenerational workplaces, AI and human skills, and human-centered leadership.</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Bring Betsy Gardner to your organization by contacting info@humanintheroombook.com </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>-----------------------</b><br /><b>Credits</b><br /><b>Hosted by Betsy Gardner</b><br /><b>Produced by Hi Hello Labs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1pCd2dMVmIySFA2Vm1QVHQ4SnFqMWFJLU1lUXxBQ3Jtc0tsR0lrZ3RlY2owdmF1NEFBSmo0QzdfckdXYnRVeUc1Z2JEbG1oakY3Vjd6el95M3l2SzBEOE5vZUpyTTF6YTNVQ1hQVGIxTjlXbFJHS0thYUZFMVVmV1hSckowNUxQU3pPX3JDc3F2a0hTbzIzZEpQcw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hihellolabs.com%2F&amp;v=MN82S-iIS4k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.hihellolabs.com/</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72219126</guid><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72219126/ep01_the_pilot.mp3" length="20826362" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Betsy Gardner</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Why does work feel broken right now? Why are recent graduates losing faith in AI, leadership, and the future of work altogether?

In this powerful episode of Human in the Room, Betsy explores the growing backlash against AI, the collapse of workplace...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Why does work feel broken right now? Why are recent graduates losing faith in AI, leadership, and the future of work altogether?<br /><br />In this powerful episode of Human in the Room, Betsy explores the growing backlash against AI, the collapse of workplace mentorship, and the rising anxiety surrounding career development, remote work culture, and leadership in a post-pandemic world.<br /><br />As headlines continue to warn about AI replacing jobs, younger generations are entering the workforce feeling uncertain, disconnected, and overwhelmed. Meanwhile, senior leaders are struggling to adapt to rapidly shifting expectations around communication, professionalism, authenticity, trust, and workplace culture.<br /><br />This episode dives deep into:<br /><ul><li>Why AI is triggering fear and mistrust among young professionals</li><li>The disappearance of entry-level apprenticeship opportunities</li><li>How remote work disrupted mentorship and workplace culture</li><li>Why soft skills matter more than ever</li><li>The leadership gap emerging between generations</li><li>What “good judgment” actually looks like in the workplace</li><li>How to build trust, presence, and credibility in your career</li><li>Why mentorship must become intentional in today’s world</li><li>The hidden loneliness behind modern work culture</li><li>How young professionals can stand out in an AI-driven workforce</li></ul>Betsy also shares practical advice for graduates and early-career professionals on managing up, building trust with leadership, creating mentorship opportunities, and developing the human skills AI cannot replace.<br /><br />If you care about leadership development, workplace culture, career growth, emotional intelligence, communication skills, or the future of work, this episode is essential listening.<br /><br />-----------------------<br /><b>Stay in the Room</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Subscribe to Human in the Room for more conversations about leadership, career growth, workplace culture, AI, and the human skills that still matter most.</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Newsletter</b><br /><b>Join the Human in the Room newsletter: <a href="https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://humanintheroom.myflodesk.com/subscribe</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Website </b><br /><b>Learn more at <a href="http://humanintheroombook.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">humanintheroombook.com</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Follow Human in the Room</b><br /><ul><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/humanintheroom</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/company/human-in-the-room/</a> </li><li>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@HumanintheRoomPodcast</a> </li></ul><b>Follow Betsy Gardner</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="http://betsygardner.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">betsygardner.com</a> </li><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.linkedin.com/in/betsygardner22/</a> </li><li>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.instagram.com/thebetsygardner/</a> </li></ul><b>Buy the Book</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Get Human in the Room by Betsy Gardner: <a href="https://bit.ly/4uADfVt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bit.ly/4uADfVt</a> </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Bring Human in the Room to Your Organization</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Human in the Room helps organizations build stronger leaders, healthier workplace cultures, and more effective teams through:</b><br /><ul><li>Leadership development training</li><li>Keynotes and...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>866</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/628aa0a2501fac1741d1eb3f05239219.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>
