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<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Theory of Change</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/theory-of-change--7059466</link><description><![CDATA[Theory of Change is a podcast about the future of global development — and the people trying to reshape it.<br /><br />Hosted by Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe, the show features candid conversations with leaders in philanthropy, foreign policy, technology, finance, media, and humanitarian aid about the forces transforming how global change actually happens: power, politics, money, influence, and ideas.<br /><br />Not a panel. A conversation with a real person.<br /><br />Episodes are published every Tuesday.<br /><br />Subscribe to our YouTube channel:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@devex" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@devex</a><br /><br />The podcast is produced by Devex Associate Editor Thomas Cserép and Mai Ylagan.]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/7059466/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>News Commentary</category><copyright>Copyright Devex</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg</url><title>Theory of Change</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/theory-of-change--7059466</link></image><lastBuildDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 07:38:16 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Devex</itunes:name><itunes:email>socialmedia@devex.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>Theory of Change is a podcast about the future of global development — and the people trying to reshape it.

Hosted by Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe, the show features candid conversations with leaders in philanthropy, foreign policy, technology,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Theory of Change is a podcast about the future of global development — and the people trying to reshape it.<br /><br />Hosted by Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe, the show features candid conversations with leaders in philanthropy, foreign policy, technology, finance, media, and humanitarian aid about the forces transforming how global change actually happens: power, politics, money, influence, and ideas.<br /><br />Not a panel. A conversation with a real person.<br /><br />Episodes are published every Tuesday.<br /><br />Subscribe to our YouTube channel:<br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@devex" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/@devex</a><br /><br />The podcast is produced by Devex Associate Editor Thomas Cserép and Mai Ylagan.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="News"><itunes:category text="News Commentary"/></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><podcast:guid>abcb54bc-41ab-5172-a28b-bfbd52cef311</podcast:guid><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>How to talk about failure</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-talk-about-failure--75871388</link><description><![CDATA[<b>What happens when an organization built on maximum cost-effectiveness discovers that one of its flagship programs isn't delivering the results it promised?</b><br /><b><br />For <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/evidence-action-54274" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Evidence Action</a>, the answer was clear — if uncomfortable: follow the data, own the mistakes, and scale back.</b><br /><b><br />In a recent episode of Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast, Evidence Action’s new CEO, Danielle Bayer, unpacked the nonprofit organization’s <a href="https://www.evidenceaction.org/insights/following-the-evidence-even-when-its-hard-an-update-on-chlorine-dispensers-in-uganda-and-malawi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">recent decision</a> to wind down its Dispensers for Safe Water program across parts of East Africa, the backlash that followed, and what high-integrity implementation looks like in an evolving development landscape.</b><br /><b><br />“Most organizations choose to make decisions and keep them internal,” Bayer said. “In this particular instance, we not only said that the program didn't work as we thought it should, but also that we made mistakes here.”</b><br /><b><br />The decision to publicly air these operational mistakes sparked <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevin-starr-mulago_sorry-but-im-calling-bullshit-on-this-one-share-7443714154756018176-pi6n/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">intense debate</a> within the effective altruism and global development communities. While many praised the nonprofit's radical transparency, some critics questioned whether pointing to evidence was being used as a shield for poor implementation.</b><br /><b><br />Bayer was candid about the trade-offs: “Admitting mistakes is hard, and it may mean you lose trust with some funders and the public. The truth is all organizations make mistakes. If we're not being transparent, it’s not that mistakes aren't happening — it's just that people aren't sharing them.”</b><br /><b><br />She also spoke about what the future of cost-effectiveness looks like in the face of sharply declining global health aid, how Evidence Action codesigns programs with partner governments, and why she urges caution in the face of an upswell of interest in artificial intelligence.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75871388</guid><pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 07:35:49 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75871388/draft_1_toc_ep19_danielle_bayer.mp3" length="93251758" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when an organization built on maximum cost-effectiveness discovers that one of its flagship programs isn't delivering the results it promised?

For https://www.devex.com/organizations/evidence-action-54274, the answer was clear — if...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>What happens when an organization built on maximum cost-effectiveness discovers that one of its flagship programs isn't delivering the results it promised?</b><br /><b><br />For <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/evidence-action-54274" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Evidence Action</a>, the answer was clear — if uncomfortable: follow the data, own the mistakes, and scale back.</b><br /><b><br />In a recent episode of Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast, Evidence Action’s new CEO, Danielle Bayer, unpacked the nonprofit organization’s <a href="https://www.evidenceaction.org/insights/following-the-evidence-even-when-its-hard-an-update-on-chlorine-dispensers-in-uganda-and-malawi" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">recent decision</a> to wind down its Dispensers for Safe Water program across parts of East Africa, the backlash that followed, and what high-integrity implementation looks like in an evolving development landscape.</b><br /><b><br />“Most organizations choose to make decisions and keep them internal,” Bayer said. “In this particular instance, we not only said that the program didn't work as we thought it should, but also that we made mistakes here.”</b><br /><b><br />The decision to publicly air these operational mistakes sparked <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kevin-starr-mulago_sorry-but-im-calling-bullshit-on-this-one-share-7443714154756018176-pi6n/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">intense debate</a> within the effective altruism and global development communities. While many praised the nonprofit's radical transparency, some critics questioned whether pointing to evidence was being used as a shield for poor implementation.</b><br /><b><br />Bayer was candid about the trade-offs: “Admitting mistakes is hard, and it may mean you lose trust with some funders and the public. The truth is all organizations make mistakes. If we're not being transparent, it’s not that mistakes aren't happening — it's just that people aren't sharing them.”</b><br /><b><br />She also spoke about what the future of cost-effectiveness looks like in the face of sharply declining global health aid, how Evidence Action codesigns programs with partner governments, and why she urges caution in the face of an upswell of interest in artificial intelligence.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3882</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,evidence</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The lessons and warnings of PEPFAR</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-lessons-and-warnings-of-pepfar--75788326</link><description><![CDATA[<b>The recent history of U.S. foreign aid has been dominated by budget cuts, institutional dismantling, and massive workforce reductions.</b><br /><b><br />Against this backdrop, the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/u-s-president-s-emergency-plan-for-aids-relief-pepfar-48995" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief</a>, or PEPFAR, feels less like a template for modern foreign policy and more like a relic of an unrecognizable past. In an era defined by political fragmentation and widespread skepticism of government-led aid projects, the idea that Washington could launch a massive, $15 billion global initiative to tackle an active health crisis overseas seems almost quaint.</b><br /><b><br />Yet on the latest episode of Devex’s Theory of Change podcast, author and veteran global health reporter John Donnelly argues that this distance is precisely why we need to look back at PEPFAR today.</b><br /><b><br />In his new book “Lifeline: The Story of PEPFAR, the Greatest Humanitarian Initiative of Our Time,” Donnelly traces how a high-risk political gamble under President George W. Bush morphed into what many consider the single greatest humanitarian achievement of modern times — saving an estimated 26 million lives over two decades.</b><br /><b><br />In this episode, Donnelly breaks down the mechanics of that success — and what PEPFAR’s two-decade arc teaches us about government capability, bipartisan political coalitions, and the risks of prolonged emergency intervention.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75788326</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2026 15:31:51 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75788326/draft_1_toc_ep18_john_donnellymp3.mp3" length="83232789" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The recent history of U.S. foreign aid has been dominated by budget cuts, institutional dismantling, and massive workforce reductions.

Against this backdrop, the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>The recent history of U.S. foreign aid has been dominated by budget cuts, institutional dismantling, and massive workforce reductions.</b><br /><b><br />Against this backdrop, the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/u-s-president-s-emergency-plan-for-aids-relief-pepfar-48995" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief</a>, or PEPFAR, feels less like a template for modern foreign policy and more like a relic of an unrecognizable past. In an era defined by political fragmentation and widespread skepticism of government-led aid projects, the idea that Washington could launch a massive, $15 billion global initiative to tackle an active health crisis overseas seems almost quaint.</b><br /><b><br />Yet on the latest episode of Devex’s Theory of Change podcast, author and veteran global health reporter John Donnelly argues that this distance is precisely why we need to look back at PEPFAR today.</b><br /><b><br />In his new book “Lifeline: The Story of PEPFAR, the Greatest Humanitarian Initiative of Our Time,” Donnelly traces how a high-risk political gamble under President George W. Bush morphed into what many consider the single greatest humanitarian achievement of modern times — saving an estimated 26 million lives over two decades.</b><br /><b><br />In this episode, Donnelly breaks down the mechanics of that success — and what PEPFAR’s two-decade arc teaches us about government capability, bipartisan political coalitions, and the risks of prolonged emergency intervention.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3465</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,development,health,pepfar</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Zipline's global drone delivery vision</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/zipline-s-global-drone-delivery-vision--75636834</link><description><![CDATA[<b>The California-based drone delivery company <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/zipline-international-inc-66117" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Zipline</a> made waves last year when it secured a <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/state-dept-grants-150m-to-zipline-to-triple-african-drone-operations-110498" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">$150 million pay-for-performance grant</a> from the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. State Department</a> to scale up its operations in Africa.</b><br /><b><br />That announcement came just months after the State Department took control of the U.S. government’s foreign aid portfolio in the wake of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">USAID</a>’s dismantling, and the deal with Zipline was portrayed as an emblem of the new direction of U.S. global health aid.</b><br /><b><br />One year later, Zipline is working through the sometimes arduous process of negotiating with partner country governments over the terms of their expansion. But the company’s ambitions extend well beyond the five African countries included in the State Department grant. </b><br /><b><br />At the same time, a new partnership with Uber has the company poised for massive expansion inside the United States, from healthcare to consumer goods — driving estimates of Zipline’s potential valuation to $20 billion.</b><br /><b><br />Zipline is expanding into urban environments, launching its precision delivery platform in cities such as Kigali, Rwanda, while scaling healthcare partnerships in the U.S. with major institutions like the Cleveland Clinic and the Veterans Affairs hospital system. The same autonomous tech that delivers critical blood products in West Africa is now poised to power instant delivery for retail and food.</b><br /><b><br />Zipline’s Africa CEO and head of international expansion, Caitlin Burton, joined Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a> for a live recording at the Devex Impact House in New York. Burton shared the company’s growth story — from its origins in Rwanda to Uber Eats — and its planetary ambitions.</b><br /><b><br />“We have to grow way faster over the next five years than we did in the last five years,” Burton said. “We are just now getting to national scale in really, really, really important places. We need to do that in many, many more places.”</b><br /><b><br />Behind Zipline’s expansion plans, there is also a critique of legacy global health institutions and funding structures, which the company found resistant to what they could offer.</b><br /><b><br />“People were staking out territory instead of operating a system, and that was weird to us,” Burton said.</b><br /><b><br />“There are three things you really need in a health system: you need well-trained health workers that are compensated ... you need the drugs themselves, and then you need a way to get them to the patient,” Burton said. “Everyone seemed to have forgotten about the supply system.”</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75636834</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2026 10:01:55 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75636834/draft_1_toc_ep17_caitlin_burton.mp3" length="90059308" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The California-based drone delivery company https://www.devex.com/organizations/zipline-international-inc-66117 made waves last year when it secured a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>The California-based drone delivery company <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/zipline-international-inc-66117" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Zipline</a> made waves last year when it secured a <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/state-dept-grants-150m-to-zipline-to-triple-african-drone-operations-110498" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">$150 million pay-for-performance grant</a> from the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. State Department</a> to scale up its operations in Africa.</b><br /><b><br />That announcement came just months after the State Department took control of the U.S. government’s foreign aid portfolio in the wake of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">USAID</a>’s dismantling, and the deal with Zipline was portrayed as an emblem of the new direction of U.S. global health aid.</b><br /><b><br />One year later, Zipline is working through the sometimes arduous process of negotiating with partner country governments over the terms of their expansion. But the company’s ambitions extend well beyond the five African countries included in the State Department grant. </b><br /><b><br />At the same time, a new partnership with Uber has the company poised for massive expansion inside the United States, from healthcare to consumer goods — driving estimates of Zipline’s potential valuation to $20 billion.</b><br /><b><br />Zipline is expanding into urban environments, launching its precision delivery platform in cities such as Kigali, Rwanda, while scaling healthcare partnerships in the U.S. with major institutions like the Cleveland Clinic and the Veterans Affairs hospital system. The same autonomous tech that delivers critical blood products in West Africa is now poised to power instant delivery for retail and food.</b><br /><b><br />Zipline’s Africa CEO and head of international expansion, Caitlin Burton, joined Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a> for a live recording at the Devex Impact House in New York. Burton shared the company’s growth story — from its origins in Rwanda to Uber Eats — and its planetary ambitions.</b><br /><b><br />“We have to grow way faster over the next five years than we did in the last five years,” Burton said. “We are just now getting to national scale in really, really, really important places. We need to do that in many, many more places.”</b><br /><b><br />Behind Zipline’s expansion plans, there is also a critique of legacy global health institutions and funding structures, which the company found resistant to what they could offer.</b><br /><b><br />“People were staking out territory instead of operating a system, and that was weird to us,” Burton said.</b><br /><b><br />“There are three things you really need in a health system: you need well-trained health workers that are compensated ... you need the drugs themselves, and then you need a way to get them to the patient,” Burton said. “Everyone seemed to have forgotten about the supply system.”</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3749</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,health,zipline</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Live from UNGA with Buddy Shah</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/live-from-unga-with-buddy-shah--75429918</link><description><![CDATA[<b>In a live episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast, Buddy Shah, CEO of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/clinton-health-access-initiative-chai-45119" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Clinton Health Access Initiative</a> and chair of the Anthropic Long Term Benefit Trust, shared an inside look at the intersection of global health, market-shaping agreements, and artificial intelligence.</b><br /><b><br />"The mistake that many of us are making ... is looking for an AI point solution. What's a cool use case where you can develop an AI tool and slot it into an existing system? And I think the much more important question is: If you could redesign the system for a world where you have very powerful AI tools, what would that look like?" Shah said during the podcast, which was recorded last week at the Devex Impact House in New York on the sidelines of the<a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/unga" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> United Nations General Assembly</a>. </b><br /><b><br />Shah pulled back the curtain on CHAI’s landmark deal to secure generic manufacturing of <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/the-promise-and-pitfalls-of-lenacapavir-112565" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lenacapavir</a> — a twice-yearly injectable drug offering 99% effectiveness against HIV infection. </b><br /><b><br />By negotiating the price down from $28,000 per year in the U.S. to $40 per patient per year in lower-income countries, Shah explained how CHAI, <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gilead-46740" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead</a>, generic manufacturers, and global health partners believe they are creating a path that could spell the end of HIV over the next decade.</b><br /><b><br />Addressing his dual role managing corporate governance at Anthropic, Shah previewed how artificial intelligence could fundamentally reshape health delivery in low- and middle-income countries through mobile diagnostics and AI clinical assistants. </b><br /><b><br />He emphasized that LMICs may leapfrog high-income nations in adopting these technologies, while highlighting how incoming philanthropic capital from the AI sector could help fund major systemic solutions.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75429918</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 14:10:18 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75429918/draft_1_toc_ep16_buddy_shah_1.mp3" length="80016308" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In a live episode of the https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change podcast, Buddy Shah, CEO of the https://www.devex.com/organizations/clinton-health-access-initiative-chai-45119 and chair of the Anthropic Long Term Benefit Trust, shared an inside...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>In a live episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast, Buddy Shah, CEO of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/clinton-health-access-initiative-chai-45119" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Clinton Health Access Initiative</a> and chair of the Anthropic Long Term Benefit Trust, shared an inside look at the intersection of global health, market-shaping agreements, and artificial intelligence.</b><br /><b><br />"The mistake that many of us are making ... is looking for an AI point solution. What's a cool use case where you can develop an AI tool and slot it into an existing system? And I think the much more important question is: If you could redesign the system for a world where you have very powerful AI tools, what would that look like?" Shah said during the podcast, which was recorded last week at the Devex Impact House in New York on the sidelines of the<a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/unga" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> United Nations General Assembly</a>. </b><br /><b><br />Shah pulled back the curtain on CHAI’s landmark deal to secure generic manufacturing of <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/the-promise-and-pitfalls-of-lenacapavir-112565" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">lenacapavir</a> — a twice-yearly injectable drug offering 99% effectiveness against HIV infection. </b><br /><b><br />By negotiating the price down from $28,000 per year in the U.S. to $40 per patient per year in lower-income countries, Shah explained how CHAI, <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gilead-46740" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead</a>, generic manufacturers, and global health partners believe they are creating a path that could spell the end of HIV over the next decade.</b><br /><b><br />Addressing his dual role managing corporate governance at Anthropic, Shah previewed how artificial intelligence could fundamentally reshape health delivery in low- and middle-income countries through mobile diagnostics and AI clinical assistants. </b><br /><b><br />He emphasized that LMICs may leapfrog high-income nations in adopting these technologies, while highlighting how incoming philanthropic capital from the AI sector could help fund major systemic solutions.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3331</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,health</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Live from UNGA with David Beasley</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/live-from-unga-with-david-beasley--75329798</link><description><![CDATA[<b>In a live episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a> recorded at the Devex Impact House in New York on the sidelines of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/unga" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations General Assembly</a>, David Beasley, the former <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/world-food-programme-wfp-44564" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World Food Programme</a> executive director and former governor of South Carolina, laid out his playbook for navigating today’s increasingly hostile political climate — while leaving the door at least somewhat open for his own return to the political arena.</b><br /><b><br />Beasley — who led the U.N.’s food security agency when it won the Nobel Peace Prize — shared his journey from working in South Carolina tobacco fields to negotiating with the Taliban to feed starving children to battling with billionaire Elon Musk on Twitter.</b><br /><b><br />He described the culture shock of a <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-nations-un-41567" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations</a> outsider confronted with bureaucracy and jargon, and offered his diagnosis for why the development sector keeps getting its pitch wrong.</b><br /><b><br />Beasley offered a bleak assessment of current humanitarian aid cuts, calling the domestic political environment “horrific” and warning that Western nations are actively undermining their own geopolitical stability.</b><br /><b><br />“America is great because America is good, and if we ever cease to be good, we cease to be great. And right now, we're not being good,” he said.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75329798</guid><pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2026 11:55:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75329798/draft_1_toc_ep15_david_beasley_1.mp3" length="99292939" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In a live episode of the https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change recorded at the Devex Impact House in New York on the sidelines of the https://www.devex.com/focus/unga, David Beasley, the former...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>In a live episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a> recorded at the Devex Impact House in New York on the sidelines of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/unga" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations General Assembly</a>, David Beasley, the former <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/world-food-programme-wfp-44564" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World Food Programme</a> executive director and former governor of South Carolina, laid out his playbook for navigating today’s increasingly hostile political climate — while leaving the door at least somewhat open for his own return to the political arena.</b><br /><b><br />Beasley — who led the U.N.’s food security agency when it won the Nobel Peace Prize — shared his journey from working in South Carolina tobacco fields to negotiating with the Taliban to feed starving children to battling with billionaire Elon Musk on Twitter.</b><br /><b><br />He described the culture shock of a <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-nations-un-41567" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations</a> outsider confronted with bureaucracy and jargon, and offered his diagnosis for why the development sector keeps getting its pitch wrong.</b><br /><b><br />Beasley offered a bleak assessment of current humanitarian aid cuts, calling the domestic political environment “horrific” and warning that Western nations are actively undermining their own geopolitical stability.</b><br /><b><br />“America is great because America is good, and if we ever cease to be good, we cease to be great. And right now, we're not being good,” he said.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4134</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,beasley,development,unga</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Is the global humanitarian system collapsing?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/is-the-global-humanitarian-system-collapsing--75146020</link><description><![CDATA[<b>In an interview on Devex's Theory of Change podcast, <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/alight-44518" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alight</a> CEO Jocelyn Wyatt warned that the traditional humanitarian business model is facing structural failure.</b><br /><b><br />Following the collapse of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a> and the transition of U.S. foreign aid programs to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. State Department</a>, organizations are having to rely on more rigid grants from United Nations agencies that typically cap overhead at 7%, leaving virtually no resources for operational leadership, compliance, or innovation, Wyatt said.</b><br /><b><br />Global humanitarian assistance fell by roughly 30% between 2022 and 2025, with 13 of the 20 largest donors cutting relief aid in 2025, according to the latest State of the Humanitarian System report, released last week.</b><br /><b><br />Wyatt highlighted how structural defects and funding restrictions in the traditional framework actively undermine long-term progress:</b><br /><ul><li><b>The misallocation problem: Private donor funding floods highly publicized, geopolitical conflicts (such as Ukraine), while long-term, acute humanitarian disasters (such as Sudan) receive virtually no private support due to public narrative fatigue, donor bias, and political media coverage.</b></li><li><b>Survival over solutions: With institutional funds shrinking, remaining aid is strictly funneled into immediate lifesaving care, stripping away funding for education, job training, and economic development that actually helps people transition out of displacement.</b></li><li><b>Failing durable pathways: The three traditional solutions for refugees — returning home, integrating locally, or third-country resettlement — have largely stalled or collapsed under political and financial strain.</b></li></ul><br /><b>“This world order and these systems that were developed post-World War II have seemed like they're hitting their expiration date, and they will need to be reinvented. But that is not happening in 2026 or 2027, probably 2028. So in the interim, we need to find ways to help people be able to provide for themselves and their families,” Wyatt said.</b><br /><b><br />To survive the breakdown of the traditional model, Wyatt argues that humanitarian organizations must pivot toward financial self-reliance and market-driven solutions.</b><br /><b><br />“Let's actually put our resources to social enterprise models where we can recycle capital, where we can help people start businesses. Let's actually train people and connect them with employers so that they can get jobs and make money for themselves,” she said.</b><br /><b><br />“To think that governments are going to be the continuous providers of financial support to refugees ... I think is just a fallacy at this point,” she added.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75146020</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 14:00:55 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75146020/draft_1_audio_toc_ep14_jocelyn_wyatt.mp3" length="100158396" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In an interview on Devex's Theory of Change podcast, https://www.devex.com/organizations/alight-44518 CEO Jocelyn Wyatt warned that the traditional humanitarian business model is facing structural failure.

Following the collapse of the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>In an interview on Devex's Theory of Change podcast, <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/alight-44518" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alight</a> CEO Jocelyn Wyatt warned that the traditional humanitarian business model is facing structural failure.</b><br /><b><br />Following the collapse of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a> and the transition of U.S. foreign aid programs to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. State Department</a>, organizations are having to rely on more rigid grants from United Nations agencies that typically cap overhead at 7%, leaving virtually no resources for operational leadership, compliance, or innovation, Wyatt said.</b><br /><b><br />Global humanitarian assistance fell by roughly 30% between 2022 and 2025, with 13 of the 20 largest donors cutting relief aid in 2025, according to the latest State of the Humanitarian System report, released last week.</b><br /><b><br />Wyatt highlighted how structural defects and funding restrictions in the traditional framework actively undermine long-term progress:</b><br /><ul><li><b>The misallocation problem: Private donor funding floods highly publicized, geopolitical conflicts (such as Ukraine), while long-term, acute humanitarian disasters (such as Sudan) receive virtually no private support due to public narrative fatigue, donor bias, and political media coverage.</b></li><li><b>Survival over solutions: With institutional funds shrinking, remaining aid is strictly funneled into immediate lifesaving care, stripping away funding for education, job training, and economic development that actually helps people transition out of displacement.</b></li><li><b>Failing durable pathways: The three traditional solutions for refugees — returning home, integrating locally, or third-country resettlement — have largely stalled or collapsed under political and financial strain.</b></li></ul><br /><b>“This world order and these systems that were developed post-World War II have seemed like they're hitting their expiration date, and they will need to be reinvented. But that is not happening in 2026 or 2027, probably 2028. So in the interim, we need to find ways to help people be able to provide for themselves and their families,” Wyatt said.</b><br /><b><br />To survive the breakdown of the traditional model, Wyatt argues that humanitarian organizations must pivot toward financial self-reliance and market-driven solutions.</b><br /><b><br />“Let's actually put our resources to social enterprise models where we can recycle capital, where we can help people start businesses. Let's actually train people and connect them with employers so that they can get jobs and make money for themselves,” she said.</b><br /><b><br />“To think that governments are going to be the continuous providers of financial support to refugees ... I think is just a fallacy at this point,” she added.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4170</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,development,humanitarian</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Is it OK to take 'tainted money'?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/is-it-ok-to-take-tainted-money--75001157</link><description><![CDATA[<b>In the latest episode of the Theory of Change podcast, human rights activist Kavita Nandini Ramdas discussed the deep systemic contradictions of modern philanthropy, its uneasy relationship with grassroots activism, and why nonprofit organizations must stop playing quiet to keep elite funding.</b><br /><b><br />Ramdas, currently a senior strategic adviser at the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/international-planned-parenthood-federation-western-hemisphere-region-157120" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">International Planned Parenthood Federation</a>, has spent years fighting both inside and outside major philanthropy — including as a close adviser to some of the world’s most prominent foundation leaders.</b><br /><b><br />What she sees today is a philanthropic sector that is “running afraid from Trump” and recipient organizations that rarely challenge their funders.</b><br /><b><br />“It’s really as though we’ve gone back to the medieval ages and Lady Bountiful is riding on her white horse and throwing crumbs to the masses below and we're scurrying around saying, ‘Thank you so much, thank you so much,’” she said. “It’s as though we’ve gone back to feudal times.”</b><br /><b><br />The argument: Nonprofits must replace groveling with accountability. “Take the money, but have the damn courage to stand up and say, ‘This action was racist. This intervention is not acceptable,’” Ramdas said. Taking elite funding creates a direct “obligation to voice” — not a mandate for silence.</b><br /><b><br />On the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gates-foundation-44525" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gates Foundation</a>: Ramdas directly called out Bill Gates over his foundation’s agricultural strategy in Africa during a meeting. She pointed out that the Green Revolution had already been an environmental disaster in India — destroying topsoil and drying up aquifers in Punjab — and asked why they were selling the exact same flawed model to Africa. As a result, they brought her in as an adviser.</b><br /><b><br />On Adele Simmons, former head of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/macarthur-foundation-36968" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MacArthur Foundation</a>: “Here she was, this extraordinary person with three young kids — and what she had to deal with, this casual sexism that I saw thrown at her.”</b><br /><b><br />On Darren Walker, former head of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/ford-foundation-44554" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ford Foundation</a>: He told Ramdas that “culture eats strategy for breakfast” — a truth she applies now to philanthropy, noting that no matter how progressive a foundation’s strategy claims to be, it is constantly swallowed by the surrounding patriarchal and capitalist culture.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/75001157</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 16:56:42 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75001157/draft_1_toc_ep13_kavita_nandini_ramdas.mp3" length="112659845" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In the latest episode of the Theory of Change podcast, human rights activist Kavita Nandini Ramdas discussed the deep systemic contradictions of modern philanthropy, its uneasy relationship with grassroots activism, and why nonprofit organizations...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>In the latest episode of the Theory of Change podcast, human rights activist Kavita Nandini Ramdas discussed the deep systemic contradictions of modern philanthropy, its uneasy relationship with grassroots activism, and why nonprofit organizations must stop playing quiet to keep elite funding.</b><br /><b><br />Ramdas, currently a senior strategic adviser at the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/international-planned-parenthood-federation-western-hemisphere-region-157120" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">International Planned Parenthood Federation</a>, has spent years fighting both inside and outside major philanthropy — including as a close adviser to some of the world’s most prominent foundation leaders.</b><br /><b><br />What she sees today is a philanthropic sector that is “running afraid from Trump” and recipient organizations that rarely challenge their funders.</b><br /><b><br />“It’s really as though we’ve gone back to the medieval ages and Lady Bountiful is riding on her white horse and throwing crumbs to the masses below and we're scurrying around saying, ‘Thank you so much, thank you so much,’” she said. “It’s as though we’ve gone back to feudal times.”</b><br /><b><br />The argument: Nonprofits must replace groveling with accountability. “Take the money, but have the damn courage to stand up and say, ‘This action was racist. This intervention is not acceptable,’” Ramdas said. Taking elite funding creates a direct “obligation to voice” — not a mandate for silence.</b><br /><b><br />On the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gates-foundation-44525" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gates Foundation</a>: Ramdas directly called out Bill Gates over his foundation’s agricultural strategy in Africa during a meeting. She pointed out that the Green Revolution had already been an environmental disaster in India — destroying topsoil and drying up aquifers in Punjab — and asked why they were selling the exact same flawed model to Africa. As a result, they brought her in as an adviser.</b><br /><b><br />On Adele Simmons, former head of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/macarthur-foundation-36968" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MacArthur Foundation</a>: “Here she was, this extraordinary person with three young kids — and what she had to deal with, this casual sexism that I saw thrown at her.”</b><br /><b><br />On Darren Walker, former head of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/ford-foundation-44554" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ford Foundation</a>: He told Ramdas that “culture eats strategy for breakfast” — a truth she applies now to philanthropy, noting that no matter how progressive a foundation’s strategy claims to be, it is constantly swallowed by the surrounding patriarchal and capitalist culture.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4691</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,philanthropy</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Can communities help refugees where governments fail?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/can-communities-help-refugees-where-governments-fail--74792836</link><description><![CDATA[<b>In the latest episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a>, Nazanin Ash, CEO of Welcome.US, discussed how community-driven sponsorship could revolutionize refugee resettlement, bypass political gridlock, and offer a scalable alternative to overburdened government systems.</b><br /><b><br />Global forced displacement is at an all-time high, and standard, bureaucratic response models are failing to keep pace. Ash argued that mobilizing local communities rather than relying solely on government aid can unlock massive potential and provide orderly, human-centered pathways for newcomers.</b><br /><b><br />The problem: Traditional global systems are built for short-term, state-versus-state displacement, but modern conflicts — predominantly civil wars — are protracted, lasting decades on average. As a result, massive, unmanaged crises crowd out long-term development funds.</b><br /><b><br />“Civil wars burn forever. They’re really tough to resolve. And our international tools for conflict resolution are really bad at solving them,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />By the numbers: By shifting the focus from a government-managed process to direct community sponsorship, Ash said that Welcome.US demonstrated unprecedented scale during recent crises such as the war in Ukraine:</b><br /><b></b><br /><ul><li><b>800,000 newcomers welcomed by American communities in under three years</b></li><li><b>Four times as many individuals resettled through private sponsorship than through formal U.S. government pathways over the same timeframe</b></li><li><b>$7 billion in time and money leveraged directly by local sponsors to pay for travel, housing, and integration</b></li><li><b>2 million Americans across 26,000 zip codes participated in sponsoring displaced individuals</b></li></ul><b></b><b>“The appetite for doing this is so strong. The capacity to do it is so real,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />Unlike formal government systems that assign refugees to fixed locations based on strict physical requirements, Ash said that private matching platforms allow newcomers to exercise choice and retain dignity.</b><br /><b><br />“If you know something about humanitarian crises and forced displacement … what you experience most acutely is the loss of choice and the loss of agency. And of course, nothing about our traditional systems lets you have that choice or agency,” she said.</b><br /><b><br />Meanwhile, community members who sponsored families have become active advocates, filing lawsuits, lobbying Congress, and defeating hundreds of anti-immigrant state bills.<br />“Proximity changes what you protect,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />What to watch: <a href="http://welcome.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Welcome.US</a> currently operates in the United States, and Ash said the organization has plenty of work on its plate. “But we did purchase the rights to Welcome.world,” she added.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74792836</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 19:35:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74792836/draft_1_toc_ep12_nazanin_ash_2.mp3" length="110204888" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In the latest episode of the https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change, Nazanin Ash, CEO of Welcome.US, discussed how community-driven sponsorship could revolutionize refugee resettlement, bypass political gridlock, and offer a scalable alternative...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>In the latest episode of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a>, Nazanin Ash, CEO of Welcome.US, discussed how community-driven sponsorship could revolutionize refugee resettlement, bypass political gridlock, and offer a scalable alternative to overburdened government systems.</b><br /><b><br />Global forced displacement is at an all-time high, and standard, bureaucratic response models are failing to keep pace. Ash argued that mobilizing local communities rather than relying solely on government aid can unlock massive potential and provide orderly, human-centered pathways for newcomers.</b><br /><b><br />The problem: Traditional global systems are built for short-term, state-versus-state displacement, but modern conflicts — predominantly civil wars — are protracted, lasting decades on average. As a result, massive, unmanaged crises crowd out long-term development funds.</b><br /><b><br />“Civil wars burn forever. They’re really tough to resolve. And our international tools for conflict resolution are really bad at solving them,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />By the numbers: By shifting the focus from a government-managed process to direct community sponsorship, Ash said that Welcome.US demonstrated unprecedented scale during recent crises such as the war in Ukraine:</b><br /><b></b><br /><ul><li><b>800,000 newcomers welcomed by American communities in under three years</b></li><li><b>Four times as many individuals resettled through private sponsorship than through formal U.S. government pathways over the same timeframe</b></li><li><b>$7 billion in time and money leveraged directly by local sponsors to pay for travel, housing, and integration</b></li><li><b>2 million Americans across 26,000 zip codes participated in sponsoring displaced individuals</b></li></ul><b></b><b>“The appetite for doing this is so strong. The capacity to do it is so real,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />Unlike formal government systems that assign refugees to fixed locations based on strict physical requirements, Ash said that private matching platforms allow newcomers to exercise choice and retain dignity.</b><br /><b><br />“If you know something about humanitarian crises and forced displacement … what you experience most acutely is the loss of choice and the loss of agency. And of course, nothing about our traditional systems lets you have that choice or agency,” she said.</b><br /><b><br />Meanwhile, community members who sponsored families have become active advocates, filing lawsuits, lobbying Congress, and defeating hundreds of anti-immigrant state bills.<br />“Proximity changes what you protect,” Ash said.</b><br /><b><br />What to watch: <a href="http://welcome.us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Welcome.US</a> currently operates in the United States, and Ash said the organization has plenty of work on its plate. “But we did purchase the rights to Welcome.world,” she added.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4589</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,refugees</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>What does 'country ownership' really mean?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-does-country-ownership-really-mean--74682726</link><description><![CDATA[<b>What is “country ownership,” really? And what gets in the way of making it a reality?</b><br /><br /><b>Against a backdrop of historic cuts to development assistance by many of the world’s largest donors, the chorus of voices calling for national governments to set — and finance — their own development agendas is growing louder.</b><br /><br /><b>Yemi Osinbajo, the former vice president of Nigeria and co-chair of the Future of Development Cooperation Coalition, has seen firsthand what happens when international donors and national development priorities are aligned — or not.</b><br /><br /><b>Osinbajo joined the Devex Theory of Change podcast to challenge the myths and misconceptions around state capacity, corruption, and international finance.</b><br /><br /><b>"Forget about giving cash or aid. Let's focus on systemic changes that can release the resources that African countries need for their development,” Osinbajo says.</b><br /><br /><b>That means targeting markets and value chains that currently disadvantage lower-income countries, through systemic partnerships rather than one-off handouts, he says.</b><br /><br /><b>It also means being honest about who is complicit in propping up systems that are plagued by corruption, or biased against regions perceived as risky, whether they truly are or not.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74682726</guid><pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 14:51:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74682726/draft_1_toc_ep11_yemi_osinbajo.mp3" length="76076643" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What is “country ownership,” really? And what gets in the way of making it a reality?

Against a backdrop of historic cuts to development assistance by many of the world’s largest donors, the chorus of voices calling for national governments to set —...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>What is “country ownership,” really? And what gets in the way of making it a reality?</b><br /><br /><b>Against a backdrop of historic cuts to development assistance by many of the world’s largest donors, the chorus of voices calling for national governments to set — and finance — their own development agendas is growing louder.</b><br /><br /><b>Yemi Osinbajo, the former vice president of Nigeria and co-chair of the Future of Development Cooperation Coalition, has seen firsthand what happens when international donors and national development priorities are aligned — or not.</b><br /><br /><b>Osinbajo joined the Devex Theory of Change podcast to challenge the myths and misconceptions around state capacity, corruption, and international finance.</b><br /><br /><b>"Forget about giving cash or aid. Let's focus on systemic changes that can release the resources that African countries need for their development,” Osinbajo says.</b><br /><br /><b>That means targeting markets and value chains that currently disadvantage lower-income countries, through systemic partnerships rather than one-off handouts, he says.</b><br /><br /><b>It also means being honest about who is complicit in propping up systems that are plagued by corruption, or biased against regions perceived as risky, whether they truly are or not.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3167</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Jacqueline Novogratz invests for global change</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-jacqueline-novogratz-invests-for-global-change--74235020</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Twenty-five years ago, when Jacqueline Novogratz founded the impact investing nonprofit <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/acumen-26851" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Acumen</a>, she still had to prove that markets and entrepreneurship could work for people living in poverty — and help lift them out of it.</b><br /><b><br />In the years since, that has moved from a relatively fringe approach to fighting poverty, to the center of global development efforts. Development finance institutions, philanthropies, and asset managers are all looking for investable opportunities — and speaking the language of impact.</b><br /><b><br />But something else has happened to — or hasn’t happened — Novogratz said on Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a>. The institutions and individuals who could provide critical “patient capital” in the early, riskier phases when it is most effective, are not jumping in as needed.<br />For Novogratz, it points to a needed reckoning for a social impact sector that has grown up, but still hasn’t realized its potential.</b><br /><b><br />“The capital that is available, and there's a lot of capital, is too expensive, it’s too risk averse, and as a result, we see a lot of talk and a lot of hand-wringing when we could be structuring that capital under the rubric of impact investing and really creating impact,” she says.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/74235020</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2026 02:48:13 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74235020/toc_ep10_jacqueline_novogratz.mp3" length="76657477" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Twenty-five years ago, when Jacqueline Novogratz founded the impact investing nonprofit https://www.devex.com/organizations/acumen-26851, she still had to prove that markets and entrepreneurship could work for people living in poverty — and help lift...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Twenty-five years ago, when Jacqueline Novogratz founded the impact investing nonprofit <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/acumen-26851" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Acumen</a>, she still had to prove that markets and entrepreneurship could work for people living in poverty — and help lift them out of it.</b><br /><b><br />In the years since, that has moved from a relatively fringe approach to fighting poverty, to the center of global development efforts. Development finance institutions, philanthropies, and asset managers are all looking for investable opportunities — and speaking the language of impact.</b><br /><b><br />But something else has happened to — or hasn’t happened — Novogratz said on Devex’s <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change podcast</a>. The institutions and individuals who could provide critical “patient capital” in the early, riskier phases when it is most effective, are not jumping in as needed.<br />For Novogratz, it points to a needed reckoning for a social impact sector that has grown up, but still hasn’t realized its potential.</b><br /><b><br />“The capital that is available, and there's a lot of capital, is too expensive, it’s too risk averse, and as a result, we see a lot of talk and a lot of hand-wringing when we could be structuring that capital under the rubric of impact investing and really creating impact,” she says.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3191</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Mark Dybul says this was never the plan for PEPFAR</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/mark-dybul-says-this-was-never-the-plan-for-pepfar--73810272</link><description><![CDATA[<b>For over two decades, the U.S. government has been a lynchpin in the global fight against HIV, pouring billions of dollars into treatment, prevention, and health systems strengthening through initiatives like the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/u-s-president-s-emergency-plan-for-aids-relief-pepfar-48995" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief</a>, or PEPFAR.</b><br /><b><br />Then came Elon Musk, the foreign aid freeze, and a disruptive set of reforms to U.S. global health programs under President Donald Trump’s “America First” Global Health Strategy. Against the backdrop of this tumultuous moment, the question remains: Was the old framework built to sustain solutions, or merely to sustain itself?</b><br /><b><br />Mark Dybul, who led PEPFAR from 2006 to 2009, joined the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast to deliver a blunt assessment of the legacy and current trajectory of foreign assistance. Reflecting on the evolution of former President George W. Bush’s signature global health initiative, Dybul addressed the sharp criticisms now driving a <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/study-finds-cuts-and-political-ideology-fundamentally-changed-pepfar-112963" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">broader push</a> for reform.</b><br /><b><br />While acknowledging the lifesaving impact of past initiatives, Dybul pointed to a fundamental failure in long-term strategy: The shift toward true local ownership never fully materialized. In Dybul’s view, Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency surfaced uneasy truths about how the U.S. government has worked with countries to end the AIDS epidemic — and the opportunities that were missed along the way.</b><br /><b><br />"The diagnosis was correct. That indictment was correct. I mean, to be honest, it turned my stomach that 25 years later we were spending the same amount of money as when I walked out the door. That wasn't the plan."</b><br /><b><br />He also pushed back on projections that PEPFAR funding cuts could cause <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/following-pepfar-cuts-vulnerable-ugandans-are-dying-providers-say-110014" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">thousands of deaths</a>, arguing that these underestimate governments’ ability to protect health programs — as well as opportunities for greater efficiency.</b><br /><b><br />As global health systems undergo a rapid overhaul, Dybul argues that the next 12 to 18 months represent a critical window. They must either adapt to a model centered on country sovereignty, local innovation, and mutual economic partnership, or risk watching the entire architecture collapse.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73810272</guid><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:08:20 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73810272/toc_9_mixdown.mp3" length="124699011" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For over two decades, the U.S. government has been a lynchpin in the global fight against HIV, pouring billions of dollars into treatment, prevention, and health systems strengthening through initiatives like the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>For over two decades, the U.S. government has been a lynchpin in the global fight against HIV, pouring billions of dollars into treatment, prevention, and health systems strengthening through initiatives like the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/u-s-president-s-emergency-plan-for-aids-relief-pepfar-48995" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief</a>, or PEPFAR.</b><br /><b><br />Then came Elon Musk, the foreign aid freeze, and a disruptive set of reforms to U.S. global health programs under President Donald Trump’s “America First” Global Health Strategy. Against the backdrop of this tumultuous moment, the question remains: Was the old framework built to sustain solutions, or merely to sustain itself?</b><br /><b><br />Mark Dybul, who led PEPFAR from 2006 to 2009, joined the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast to deliver a blunt assessment of the legacy and current trajectory of foreign assistance. Reflecting on the evolution of former President George W. Bush’s signature global health initiative, Dybul addressed the sharp criticisms now driving a <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/study-finds-cuts-and-political-ideology-fundamentally-changed-pepfar-112963" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">broader push</a> for reform.</b><br /><b><br />While acknowledging the lifesaving impact of past initiatives, Dybul pointed to a fundamental failure in long-term strategy: The shift toward true local ownership never fully materialized. In Dybul’s view, Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency surfaced uneasy truths about how the U.S. government has worked with countries to end the AIDS epidemic — and the opportunities that were missed along the way.</b><br /><b><br />"The diagnosis was correct. That indictment was correct. I mean, to be honest, it turned my stomach that 25 years later we were spending the same amount of money as when I walked out the door. That wasn't the plan."</b><br /><b><br />He also pushed back on projections that PEPFAR funding cuts could cause <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/following-pepfar-cuts-vulnerable-ugandans-are-dying-providers-say-110014" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">thousands of deaths</a>, arguing that these underestimate governments’ ability to protect health programs — as well as opportunities for greater efficiency.</b><br /><b><br />As global health systems undergo a rapid overhaul, Dybul argues that the next 12 to 18 months represent a critical window. They must either adapt to a model centered on country sovereignty, local innovation, and mutual economic partnership, or risk watching the entire architecture collapse.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>5196</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,health,pepfar</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Kakenya Ntaiya turned pain into progress</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-kakenya-ntaiya-turned-pain-into-progress--73209698</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Philanthropists and global development donors have made a lot of promises about supporting local leaders and community-based organizations. But their insistence on finding scalable models might be getting in the way of a simpler achievement: helping people.</b><br /><b><br />Kakenya Ntaiya is a one-woman case study in persistence. </b><br /><b><br />As a girl in southwestern Kenya, she underwent the traditional Masaai practice of female genital mutilation — a precursor to marriage and motherhood.</b><br /><b><br />But she negotiated with her father to stay in school, secured a scholarship to attend college in the United States, and used her education to scrutinize the very cultural practices that she — and the other women in her village — were born into.</b><br /><b><br />As the founder of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/kakenya-s-dream-138645" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kakenya’s Dream</a>, a nonprofit organization, Ntaiya has returned to Kenya to open up spaces for discussion of cultural taboos — and educational opportunities for thousands of girls. </b><br /><b><br />Ntaiya joined the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast to share her experiences navigating complex community politics, pushing for cultural change, and confronting the blind spots in modern international philanthropy that get in the way of improving people’s lives.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73209698</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2026 07:33:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73209698/draft_2_toc_ep8_kakenya_ntaiya.mp3" length="90135617" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Philanthropists and global development donors have made a lot of promises about supporting local leaders and community-based organizations. But their insistence on finding scalable models might be getting in the way of a simpler achievement: helping...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Philanthropists and global development donors have made a lot of promises about supporting local leaders and community-based organizations. But their insistence on finding scalable models might be getting in the way of a simpler achievement: helping people.</b><br /><b><br />Kakenya Ntaiya is a one-woman case study in persistence. </b><br /><b><br />As a girl in southwestern Kenya, she underwent the traditional Masaai practice of female genital mutilation — a precursor to marriage and motherhood.</b><br /><b><br />But she negotiated with her father to stay in school, secured a scholarship to attend college in the United States, and used her education to scrutinize the very cultural practices that she — and the other women in her village — were born into.</b><br /><b><br />As the founder of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/kakenya-s-dream-138645" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kakenya’s Dream</a>, a nonprofit organization, Ntaiya has returned to Kenya to open up spaces for discussion of cultural taboos — and educational opportunities for thousands of girls. </b><br /><b><br />Ntaiya joined the <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a> podcast to share her experiences navigating complex community politics, pushing for cultural change, and confronting the blind spots in modern international philanthropy that get in the way of improving people’s lives.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3753</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,education,kenya,philanthropy</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Jim Richardson believes we can still agree about US foreign aid</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/jim-richardson-believes-we-can-still-agree-about-us-foreign-aid--73083191</link><description><![CDATA[<b>U.S. foreign aid advocacy groups are soul-searching in the wake of the Trump administration’s dismantling of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a> and deep cuts to U.S. foreign assistance.</b><br /><b><br />Bipartisan support for U.S. aid programs crumbled quickly in the face of Elon Musk’s attack on the agency via the Department of Government Efficiency, and USAID’s legacy is now viewed through a starkly polarized political lens.</b><br /><b><br />In the aftermath of that collapse, advocacy organizations are trying to regain their footing — including by hiring conservative political veterans into key roles.</b><br /><b><br />Jim Richardson, a longtime congressional staffer and former aide to Mike Pompeo, coordinated one of the largest reorganization efforts in USAID’s history during Trump’s first term. He recently joined the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition — one of the most influential “soft power” advocacy groups in Washington, D.C. — as national outreach director.</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>He joined <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">the Theory of Change podcast</a> to discuss the future of U.S. development advocacy — and what it will take to rebuild support for aid programs.</b><br /><b><br />"We have to really go back to the basics,” he said. </b><br /><b><br />“Where does the U.S. government have a comparative advantage? What does the power of international assistance do? What can it do?”</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73083191</guid><pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:04:25 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73083191/draft_1_toc_ep7_jim_richardson.mp3" length="105278006" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>U.S. foreign aid advocacy groups are soul-searching in the wake of the Trump administration’s dismantling of the https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096 and deep cuts to U.S. foreign...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>U.S. foreign aid advocacy groups are soul-searching in the wake of the Trump administration’s dismantling of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a> and deep cuts to U.S. foreign assistance.</b><br /><b><br />Bipartisan support for U.S. aid programs crumbled quickly in the face of Elon Musk’s attack on the agency via the Department of Government Efficiency, and USAID’s legacy is now viewed through a starkly polarized political lens.</b><br /><b><br />In the aftermath of that collapse, advocacy organizations are trying to regain their footing — including by hiring conservative political veterans into key roles.</b><br /><b><br />Jim Richardson, a longtime congressional staffer and former aide to Mike Pompeo, coordinated one of the largest reorganization efforts in USAID’s history during Trump’s first term. He recently joined the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition — one of the most influential “soft power” advocacy groups in Washington, D.C. — as national outreach director.</b><br /><b></b><br /><b>He joined <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">the Theory of Change podcast</a> to discuss the future of U.S. development advocacy — and what it will take to rebuild support for aid programs.</b><br /><b><br />"We have to really go back to the basics,” he said. </b><br /><b><br />“Where does the U.S. government have a comparative advantage? What does the power of international assistance do? What can it do?”</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4384</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>advocacy,aid,development,pompeo,usaid</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Ebere Okereke believes global health is about power</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ebere-okereke-believes-global-health-is-about-power--72964399</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Global health is entering a period of profound upheaval. As governments reassess foreign aid, donors rethink decades-old models, and African leaders push for greater ownership of their health systems, one question looms over the sector: Who should hold the power to shape global health?</b><br /><b><br />Dr. Ebere Okereke is a prominent voice in that conversation. She joins Theory of Change for a wide-ranging conversation with Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe about the risks and opportunities of this massive global health shakeup.</b><br /><b><br />"Everything's about power. Everything is about politics. But it's also about understanding what power you have," Okereke says.</b><br /><b><br />She reflects on the consequences of the dismantling of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a>, the rise of bilateral health agreements, the promise of the Accra Reset, and why African governments must play a far greater role in defining and financing their own priorities.</b><br /><b> <br />At the same time — with disease outbreaks still testing national response systems — she cautions against retreating from global collaboration, arguing instead for a model that is "locally owned, regionally anchored, but remain[s] part of a global architecture."</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72964399</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2026 09:28:28 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72964399/373979a8_bf39_4aff_b961_bd8e8d869636.mp3" length="129578851" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Global health is entering a period of profound upheaval. As governments reassess foreign aid, donors rethink decades-old models, and African leaders push for greater ownership of their health systems, one question looms over the sector: Who should...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Global health is entering a period of profound upheaval. As governments reassess foreign aid, donors rethink decades-old models, and African leaders push for greater ownership of their health systems, one question looms over the sector: Who should hold the power to shape global health?</b><br /><b><br />Dr. Ebere Okereke is a prominent voice in that conversation. She joins Theory of Change for a wide-ranging conversation with Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe about the risks and opportunities of this massive global health shakeup.</b><br /><b><br />"Everything's about power. Everything is about politics. But it's also about understanding what power you have," Okereke says.</b><br /><b><br />She reflects on the consequences of the dismantling of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">U.S. Agency for International Development</a>, the rise of bilateral health agreements, the promise of the Accra Reset, and why African governments must play a far greater role in defining and financing their own priorities.</b><br /><b> <br />At the same time — with disease outbreaks still testing national response systems — she cautions against retreating from global collaboration, arguing instead for a model that is "locally owned, regionally anchored, but remain[s] part of a global architecture."</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>5396</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,development,health,power</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Rachel Kyte doesn't listen to climate polls</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-rachel-kyte-doesn-t-listen-to-climate-polls--72754706</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Rachel Kyte has spent decades shaping global climate change policy — from the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/world-bank-group-38382" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World Bank</a> to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-nations-un-41567" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations</a> to the United Kingdom. </b><br /><b><br />More than a decade since the signing of the Paris climate agreement, Kyte — the U.K. special representative for climate — is both inspired by how much has been done to tackle the climate crisis, and clear-eyed about the fact that it is not enough.</b><br /><b><br />"It's joyful, tinged with deep sadness and regret,” she told Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe on the latest episode of <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a>.</b><br /><b><br />Against the backdrop of a sweltering <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/climatechange" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">London Climate Action Week</a>, Kyte outlined her vision for “financing climate.” That is a vision that stretches well beyond the narrower realm of “climate finance,” to include bolder transformations of trade, international relations, and public services.</b><br /><b><br />"People want affordable electricity, they want clean air, they want clean water, they want protection against extreme heat, and they want flood control,” Kyte said.</b><br /><b><br />"We have to be much better at taking the message to people and speaking with optimism and hope about why this is good for them,” she added.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72754706</guid><pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2026 09:25:53 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72754706/draft_2_toc_ep_5_why_rachel_kyte_doesn_t_listen_to_climate_polls.mp3" length="82774224" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Rachel Kyte has spent decades shaping global climate change policy — from the https://www.devex.com/organizations/world-bank-group-38382 to the https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-nations-un-41567 to the United Kingdom. 

More than a decade...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Rachel Kyte has spent decades shaping global climate change policy — from the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/world-bank-group-38382" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World Bank</a> to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-nations-un-41567" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">United Nations</a> to the United Kingdom. </b><br /><b><br />More than a decade since the signing of the Paris climate agreement, Kyte — the U.K. special representative for climate — is both inspired by how much has been done to tackle the climate crisis, and clear-eyed about the fact that it is not enough.</b><br /><b><br />"It's joyful, tinged with deep sadness and regret,” she told Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe on the latest episode of <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/theory_of_change" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theory of Change</a>.</b><br /><b><br />Against the backdrop of a sweltering <a href="https://www.devex.com/focus/climatechange" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">London Climate Action Week</a>, Kyte outlined her vision for “financing climate.” That is a vision that stretches well beyond the narrower realm of “climate finance,” to include bolder transformations of trade, international relations, and public services.</b><br /><b><br />"People want affordable electricity, they want clean air, they want clean water, they want protection against extreme heat, and they want flood control,” Kyte said.</b><br /><b><br />"We have to be much better at taking the message to people and speaking with optimism and hope about why this is good for them,” she added.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3446</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>climate,development,lcaw</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>William Easterly still believes development is freedom</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/william-easterly-still-believes-development-is-freedom--72646139</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Development economist William Easterly famously does not mince words about the disappointments of anti-poverty megaprojects and far-fetched foreign aid plans.</b><br /><b><br />For much of his career, Easterly has taken aim at experts who export their visions onto other people’s countries and communities — drawing from his own experience as one of those very experts.</b><br /><b><br />In his latest book, “Violent Saviors: The West’s Conquest of the Rest,” Easterly unearths the long history of what he calls “the development right of conquest,” a worldview that has sacrificed individual rights and agency at the altar of material gain. He traces the long-standing tension between those who pushed for development at all costs and the dissenting voices who resisted them.</b><br /><b><br />In the fourth episode of Theory of Change, Easterly unpacks the implications of that history for contemporary development efforts. He reflects on what alternative approaches to improving human well-being might look like — and what role aid institutions should play in pursuing them.</b><br /><b><br />“There’s this technocratic illusion that you can reduce development to just technology and effectiveness of achieving measurable gains and these technical indicators of well-being,” he tells Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe. </b><br /><b><br />“I think we all realize deep down the fantasy of keeping things purely technocratic is really a fantasy, that there really is a whole other dimension,” Easterly says. </b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72646139</guid><pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2026 11:52:51 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72646139/draft_1_toc_ep_4_why_bill_easterly_thinks_economists_should_do_no_harm.mp3" length="85244304" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Development economist William Easterly famously does not mince words about the disappointments of anti-poverty megaprojects and far-fetched foreign aid plans.

For much of his career, Easterly has taken aim at experts who export their visions onto...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Development economist William Easterly famously does not mince words about the disappointments of anti-poverty megaprojects and far-fetched foreign aid plans.</b><br /><b><br />For much of his career, Easterly has taken aim at experts who export their visions onto other people’s countries and communities — drawing from his own experience as one of those very experts.</b><br /><b><br />In his latest book, “Violent Saviors: The West’s Conquest of the Rest,” Easterly unearths the long history of what he calls “the development right of conquest,” a worldview that has sacrificed individual rights and agency at the altar of material gain. He traces the long-standing tension between those who pushed for development at all costs and the dissenting voices who resisted them.</b><br /><b><br />In the fourth episode of Theory of Change, Easterly unpacks the implications of that history for contemporary development efforts. He reflects on what alternative approaches to improving human well-being might look like — and what role aid institutions should play in pursuing them.</b><br /><b><br />“There’s this technocratic illusion that you can reduce development to just technology and effectiveness of achieving measurable gains and these technical indicators of well-being,” he tells Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe. </b><br /><b><br />“I think we all realize deep down the fantasy of keeping things purely technocratic is really a fantasy, that there really is a whole other dimension,” Easterly says. </b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3549</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Gayle Smith on the next fight for foreign aid</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/gayle-smith-on-the-next-fight-for-foreign-aid--72549889</link><description><![CDATA[<b>U.S. foreign aid is undergoing one of the most tumultuous transformations in its history.</b><br /><b><br />The Department of Government Efficiency’s dismantling of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">USAID</a> and transfer of its remaining programs to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">State Department</a> upended the U.S. global development industry. But it’s much more than a question of organizational charts and institutional responsibilities.</b><br /><b><br />At stake are fundamental questions about America’s national interests, how the well-being of people in other countries should influence economic and trade policy, and the nature of public support for a long-term vision of development investment.</b><br /><b><br />Gayle Smith has faced those questions from a variety of vantage points — senior director for development and democracy on the White House National Security Council, USAID administrator, CEO of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/one-campaign-56278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ONE Campaign</a>.</b><br /><b><br />In this episode of Theory of Change, she shares a candid assessment of where the fight for U.S. leadership in global development should go from here — and who should lead the charge.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72549889</guid><pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2026 13:38:21 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72549889/draft_2_toc_ep_3_gayle_smith_on_the_next_fight_for_foreign_aid.mp3" length="95416519" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>U.S. foreign aid is undergoing one of the most tumultuous transformations in its history.

The Department of Government Efficiency’s dismantling of https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096 and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>U.S. foreign aid is undergoing one of the most tumultuous transformations in its history.</b><br /><b><br />The Department of Government Efficiency’s dismantling of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-agency-for-international-development-usaid-45096" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">USAID</a> and transfer of its remaining programs to the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/united-states-department-of-state-dos-23842" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">State Department</a> upended the U.S. global development industry. But it’s much more than a question of organizational charts and institutional responsibilities.</b><br /><b><br />At stake are fundamental questions about America’s national interests, how the well-being of people in other countries should influence economic and trade policy, and the nature of public support for a long-term vision of development investment.</b><br /><b><br />Gayle Smith has faced those questions from a variety of vantage points — senior director for development and democracy on the White House National Security Council, USAID administrator, CEO of the <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/one-campaign-56278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ONE Campaign</a>.</b><br /><b><br />In this episode of Theory of Change, she shares a candid assessment of where the fight for U.S. leadership in global development should go from here — and who should lead the charge.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3973</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aid,development,usaid</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Seth Berkley has seen our pandemic future</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/seth-berkley-has-seen-our-pandemic-future--72432734</link><description><![CDATA[<b>Much of Seth Berkley's career has been an attempt to answer the question: How do you get vaccines to people who aren’t well-served by an inequitable global health system?<br />When the COVID-19 outbreak exploded in early 2020, that question took on new urgency — along with a mind-spinning slew of political, economic, technological, and cultural complications.</b><br /><b><br />Berkley, then the CEO of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gavi-the-vaccine-alliance-44118" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance</a>, had a pretty good idea what was coming. As early as February 2020 he was warning publicly that if researchers were successful in developing a COVID-19 vaccine, lower-income countries would <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/trips-waiver-did-nothing-for-vaccine-access-gavi-s-seth-berkley-says-105091" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">struggle to access them</a>.</b><br /><b><br />That is exactly what happened. It is also what led Berkley to help launch COVAX, the global initiative to deliver COVID-19 vaccines around the world.</b><br /><b><br />In the wake of the pandemic, the relationships between politics, society, and vaccines have only grown more fraught. </b><br /><b><br />One example: Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has personally intervened to block U.S. funding to Gavi.</b><br /><b><br />Berkley, a physician and infectious disease epidemiologist, joined Devex’s Theory of Change podcast to discuss the lessons of the COVID-19 response, the long and complicated history of humanity’s relationships with vaccines, the incredible potential of new technologies — and the deeply troubling risks that some of them pose.</b><br /><b><br />His new book is called “Fair Doses: An Insider's Story of the Pandemic and the Global Fight for Vaccine Equity.”</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72432734</guid><pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2026 07:53:35 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72432734/draft_2_toc_ep2_seth_berkley_has_seen_our_pandemic_future.mp3" length="113548839" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Much of Seth Berkley's career has been an attempt to answer the question: How do you get vaccines to people who aren’t well-served by an inequitable global health system?
When the COVID-19 outbreak exploded in early 2020, that question took on new...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>Much of Seth Berkley's career has been an attempt to answer the question: How do you get vaccines to people who aren’t well-served by an inequitable global health system?<br />When the COVID-19 outbreak exploded in early 2020, that question took on new urgency — along with a mind-spinning slew of political, economic, technological, and cultural complications.</b><br /><b><br />Berkley, then the CEO of <a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/gavi-the-vaccine-alliance-44118" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance</a>, had a pretty good idea what was coming. As early as February 2020 he was warning publicly that if researchers were successful in developing a COVID-19 vaccine, lower-income countries would <a href="https://www.devex.com/news/trips-waiver-did-nothing-for-vaccine-access-gavi-s-seth-berkley-says-105091" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">struggle to access them</a>.</b><br /><b><br />That is exactly what happened. It is also what led Berkley to help launch COVAX, the global initiative to deliver COVID-19 vaccines around the world.</b><br /><b><br />In the wake of the pandemic, the relationships between politics, society, and vaccines have only grown more fraught. </b><br /><b><br />One example: Secretary of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has personally intervened to block U.S. funding to Gavi.</b><br /><b><br />Berkley, a physician and infectious disease epidemiologist, joined Devex’s Theory of Change podcast to discuss the lessons of the COVID-19 response, the long and complicated history of humanity’s relationships with vaccines, the incredible potential of new technologies — and the deeply troubling risks that some of them pose.</b><br /><b><br />His new book is called “Fair Doses: An Insider's Story of the Pandemic and the Global Fight for Vaccine Equity.”</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4729</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>covid,development,health,pandemic,vaccines</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Alexander Berger weighs the world’s biggest problems</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-alexander-berger-weighs-the-world-s-biggest-problems--72300208</link><description><![CDATA[<b><a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/open-philanthropy-184735" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coefficient Giving</a>, one of the world’s largest effective-giving funders, is about to go even bigger.</b><br /><b><br />On the heels of its biggest funding year ever in 2025 — in which it <a href="https://coefficientgiving.org/research/2025-letter-from-the-ceo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">channeled over $1 billion</a> to highest-impact causes — the organization formerly known as Open Philanthropy and funded by Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz and his wife Cari Tuna is eyeing annual growth upward of 50% and bringing on more staff to get it done.</b><br /><b><br />The person behind that vision is Alexander Berger, Coefficient Giving’s cofounder and CEO. Berger is in charge of turning Facebook wealth — and, increasingly, funds from other donors — into as many lives saved and improved as possible. The organization is a major funder in global health and development, catastrophic risk, research and innovation, and even farm animal welfare.</b><br /><b><br />Last week, Coefficient Giving <a href="https://coefficientgiving.org/research/announcing-the-strep-a-vaccine-fund/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">launched a new pooled fund</a> to tackle Group A Streptococcus — an easily treated disease that is still responsible for nearly 700,000 deaths a year — a cause that reflects the organization’s framework for tackling problems that are important, neglected, and tractable.</b><br /><b><br />In a rare, in-depth interview with Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe, Berger sheds light on Coefficient Giving’s rapid growth plans, its strategy for choosing high-impact causes, the rise of artificial intelligence philanthropy, and his own approach to affecting change in an uncertain world.</b><br /><b><br />This is the first episode of Theory of Change, a new podcast series from Devex featuring candid interviews with leaders shaping the future of global development.</b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72300208</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2026 16:55:16 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72300208/draft_2_toc_ep1_how_alexander_berger_weighs_the_world_s_biggest_problems.mp3" length="95794225" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Devex</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>https://www.devex.com/organizations/open-philanthropy-184735, one of the world’s largest effective-giving funders, is about to go even bigger.

On the heels of its biggest funding year ever in 2025 — in which it...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b><a href="https://www.devex.com/organizations/open-philanthropy-184735" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coefficient Giving</a>, one of the world’s largest effective-giving funders, is about to go even bigger.</b><br /><b><br />On the heels of its biggest funding year ever in 2025 — in which it <a href="https://coefficientgiving.org/research/2025-letter-from-the-ceo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">channeled over $1 billion</a> to highest-impact causes — the organization formerly known as Open Philanthropy and funded by Facebook cofounder Dustin Moskovitz and his wife Cari Tuna is eyeing annual growth upward of 50% and bringing on more staff to get it done.</b><br /><b><br />The person behind that vision is Alexander Berger, Coefficient Giving’s cofounder and CEO. Berger is in charge of turning Facebook wealth — and, increasingly, funds from other donors — into as many lives saved and improved as possible. The organization is a major funder in global health and development, catastrophic risk, research and innovation, and even farm animal welfare.</b><br /><b><br />Last week, Coefficient Giving <a href="https://coefficientgiving.org/research/announcing-the-strep-a-vaccine-fund/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">launched a new pooled fund</a> to tackle Group A Streptococcus — an easily treated disease that is still responsible for nearly 700,000 deaths a year — a cause that reflects the organization’s framework for tackling problems that are important, neglected, and tractable.</b><br /><b><br />In a rare, in-depth interview with Devex Senior Reporter Michael Igoe, Berger sheds light on Coefficient Giving’s rapid growth plans, its strategy for choosing high-impact causes, the rise of artificial intelligence philanthropy, and his own approach to affecting change in an uncertain world.</b><br /><b><br />This is the first episode of Theory of Change, a new podcast series from Devex featuring candid interviews with leaders shaping the future of global development.</b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3989</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>development,giving,philanthropy</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e69293157304a048ddeedf676482461c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>
