https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/white-people-black-music-and-liberation--7017995enSociety & CultureCopyright erich huffakerhttps://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bf2ade8633f5a4ea23602ba8a8765577.jpghttps://www.spreaker.com/podcast/white-people-black-music-and-liberation--7017995Thu, 04 Jun 2026 22:21:43 +0000erich huffakererich huffakerwhitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.comwe explore antiracism as liberation work, not a politics of opposition. this podcast is especially for white and white passing people, and particularly musicians, who are in relationship with Black music and culture. through reflective, question...falseepisodichttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/are-we-just-coddling-white-folks-with-aaron-kierbel--72135939 (00:00:01) Welcome to White People, Black Music, and Liberation
(00:00:29) Introducing Aaron Kerbel: Drummer, Educator, and Friend
(00:01:17) The Tension Between White Space and Racial Justice
(00:03:46) The Importance of White Spaces for Racial Reflection
(00:10:56) Creating Spaces for Cross-Racial Dialogue
(00:12:03) Wrapping Up and Next Episode Preview
(00:12:28) Support the Podcast Community

white people doing racial justice work often face a hard question from their own communities: is focusing on white folks actually helping or just letting them off the hook? in this conversation with drummer and educator aaron kierbel, we explore the healing power of honest conversation, why white people need spaces to talk about race with one another, and how that work can open the door to deeper cross-racial dialogue rather than replace it.

white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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(00:00:29) Introducing Aaron Kerbel: Drummer, Educator, and Friend
(00:01:17) The Tension Between White Space and Racial Justice
(00:03:46) The Importance of White Spaces for Racial Reflection
(00:10:56) Creating Spaces for Cross-Racial Dialogue
(00:12:03) Wrapping Up and Next Episode Preview
(00:12:28) Support the Podcast Community

white people doing racial justice work often face a hard question from their own communities: is focusing on white folks actually helping or just letting them off the hook? in this conversation with drummer and educator aaron kierbel, we explore the healing power of honest conversation, why white people need spaces to talk about race with one another, and how that work can open the door to deeper cross-racial dialogue rather than replace it.

white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/0a5ca17a-d1ec-31d4-9fe0-2ac5334f5667Wed, 13 May 2026 12:55:00 +0000erich huffakerin this conversation with matré we explore the role spiritual practice can play in antiracism work. meditation, inner reflection, and deep conversation can open spaces where we see our patterns more clearly and respond from courage and love rather...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/51955a8d-9380-3d4c-8b01-b8d21c5fd166Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:55:00 +0000erich huffakercontinuing the conversation with matré, we explore the idea that racism is a collective wound in our society. what does liberation actually look like for white or white passing people doing this work? and how can inner growth, spiritual practice, and...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/74cfe09c-5031-3129-8f61-7d3c229f7619Wed, 15 Apr 2026 12:55:00 +0000erich huffakerwhy should anyone care about racial justice? in this episode matré reflects on growing up near a racial divide and the emotional truth that something in our society simply does not feel right. we explore the idea that injustice harms everyone and why...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>802false8fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-is-the-right-way-to-relate-to-being-white-and-loving-black-music-with-matre--71911381https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134

white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/fe255c6d-6533-3515-8e88-fa3808dc8002Wed, 01 Apr 2026 12:55:00 +0000erich huffakerin this episode, erich continues his conversation with hip hop artist and cultural worker matré, exploring a central tension many white and white passing people encounter: how to relate ethically, honestly, and responsibly to being white and playing...https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/the-love-bravely-podcast/id1783210134

white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/03b09e7b-cad3-36a2-bc9a-40653e6ed212Wed, 18 Mar 2026 12:55:00 +0000erich huffakerin this episode, erich is joined by hip hop artist and cultural worker matre for a candid conversation about why conversations around race can feel so charged, vulnerable, and difficult, even among people committed to justice and growth. together,...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/0516f5d1-d87b-3443-8857-ed0ad5064c0bWed, 04 Mar 2026 13:55:00 +0000erich huffakerin this episode, erich responds to a question that arises often in conversations about cultural appropriation: is the narrative itself harmful, or is it naming harm that already exists? this conversation is especially oriented toward white and white...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/9a4ab336-2b9f-3687-a6ee-c317c5ee6642Wed, 18 Feb 2026 13:55:00 +0000erich huffakerin this episode, erich reflects on why the language of liberation feels more accurate than anti racism to his lived experience. drawing from personal reflection, spiritual frameworks, and liberatory thinkers, this transmission explores the difference...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/64a4c3a2-53db-3c3c-9b5d-72fe9c6a9b63Wed, 04 Feb 2026 13:55:00 +0000erich huffakerwhy do some white or white-passing people feel a desire to be the only white person in the room? in this episode, i reflect on my own longing for belonging in black spaces, the cultural void created by assimilation into whiteness, and how love for...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/c7e289a3-1b9b-3f0c-ae09-1542c38a69ebWed, 21 Jan 2026 13:55:00 +0000erich huffakerwhat happens when anger is both justified and disruptive? in this personal vignette, erich reflects on a moment at a gym, family tensions, and the challenge of working with anger in anti racism and liberation work. rather than offering solutions, this...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/4fb02961-2d30-36ed-a02a-579f2c545228Wed, 07 Jan 2026 17:11:12 +0000erich huffakerthis episode asks a hard question: am i doing cultural appropriation? drawing from personal experience, spiritual community conversations, and the work of shelly tochluk, i explore why defensiveness often blocks discernment, how harm can exist even...
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>839false2fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/first-a-disclaimer--71911385
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
✶]]>whitepeopleblackmusic.podbean.com/b3c9106a-a708-349c-a1f1-ac220306e756Wed, 07 Jan 2026 17:10:41 +0000erich huffakerthis episode opens with a personal disclaimer. i’m not an expert or authority. i’m a mostly white-passing arab american musician reflecting on race, proximity to black music, and how unconscious racial programming shapes our inner and outer worlds....
white people, black music, and liberation is an independent podcast exploring race, music, and what it means to move from *programming* into liberation. 
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have a thought, a question, or a story of your own? reach out at whitepeopleblackmusic@gmail.com 
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follow the journey at whitepeopleblackmusic.com
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