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<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" version="2.0"><channel><title>The Messy Middle</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-messy-middle--6702278</link><description><![CDATA[Welcome to The Messy Middle. This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope.  I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women navigating the aftermath of betrayal, burnout, and hard decisions. You won’t find perfection here. You’ll find honesty. You’ll find yourself.  New podcast episodes drop Tuesdays. Subscribe if you’re looking for real conversations about what it takes to keep going—even when you’re still figuring it out.]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/6702278/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Society &amp; Culture</category><copyright>Copyright Jamila</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/30a82014ac90cacf6ad4645fb5e7e5e3.jpg</url><title>The Messy Middle</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-messy-middle--6702278</link></image><lastBuildDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 13:22:09 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Jamila</itunes:name><itunes:email>feeds@spreaker.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/30a82014ac90cacf6ad4645fb5e7e5e3.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>Welcome to The Messy Middle.
This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope.

I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to The Messy Middle. This is where we talk about what it means to live in the in-between—between healing and wholeness, clarity and confusion, exhaustion and hope.  I’m Mila, a self-actualization coach who works with Black millennial women navigating the aftermath of betrayal, burnout, and hard decisions. You won’t find perfection here. You’ll find honesty. You’ll find yourself.  New podcast episodes drop Tuesdays. Subscribe if you’re looking for real conversations about what it takes to keep going—even when you’re still figuring it out.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><podcast:guid>b6e68caa-d874-5436-a105-14a31ff27bf4</podcast:guid><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>How to Make a Decision When You're Scared</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-make-a-decision-when-you-re-scared--75595202</link><description><![CDATA[We treat readiness like something that shows up before you act. Most of the time it's the other way around. You move first, and the sure feeling catches up to you later, once you're already going.This episode is about the decisions you already know you need to make but keep putting off until you're certain. We get into why that certainty usually isn't coming, why waiting for it can keep you stuck somewhere that stopped fitting you a long time ago, and what it actually means to trust yourself when you can't see how things turn out.If there's something you've been sitting on, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 6 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Decision-Making &amp; Agency."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">754cefad-fa4f-4835-8e34-478b5f68d9db</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75595202/433332901_44100_2_134a6d74d8681.mp3" length="4251061" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We treat readiness like something that shows up before you act. Most of the time it's the other way around. You move first, and the sure feeling catches up to you later, once you're already going.This episode is about the decisions you already know...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We treat readiness like something that shows up before you act. Most of the time it's the other way around. You move first, and the sure feeling catches up to you later, once you're already going.This episode is about the decisions you already know you need to make but keep putting off until you're certain. We get into why that certainty usually isn't coming, why waiting for it can keep you stuck somewhere that stopped fitting you a long time ago, and what it actually means to trust yourself when you can't see how things turn out.If there's something you've been sitting on, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 6 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Decision-Making &amp; Agency."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>266</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/547645e18bb66cc5826aebd8ee1550df.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When You Outgrow the Room</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-you-outgrow-the-room--75429213</link><description><![CDATA[We talk about growth like it only ever adds to your life. It doesn't always. Sometimes the thing it quietly takes is the ease you used to have with the people who've known you longest.This episode is about what happens when you change on the inside, where no one can see it, while the people around you keep relating to a version of you you've already left behind. We get into why relationships don't adjust as fast as you do, why some connections stretch to meet you while others stay stuck, and the specific loneliness that can show up even in a room full of people you love.If you've been feeling a distance you can't quite explain lately, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 5 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Relationships &amp; Social Dynamics."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8cbc3a7f-107b-4d1b-86eb-be909acceb74</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75429213/431475550_44100_2_a9446f3de884f.mp3" length="12569011" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We talk about growth like it only ever adds to your life. It doesn't always. Sometimes the thing it quietly takes is the ease you used to have with the people who've known you longest.This episode is about what happens when you change on the inside,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We talk about growth like it only ever adds to your life. It doesn't always. Sometimes the thing it quietly takes is the ease you used to have with the people who've known you longest.This episode is about what happens when you change on the inside, where no one can see it, while the people around you keep relating to a version of you you've already left behind. We get into why relationships don't adjust as fast as you do, why some connections stretch to meet you while others stay stuck, and the specific loneliness that can show up even in a room full of people you love.If you've been feeling a distance you can't quite explain lately, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 5 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Relationships &amp; Social Dynamics."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>786</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6b23a487b012f434bb78246a9a07ae3f.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Choosing Yourself Triggers Guilt Every Time</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-choosing-yourself-triggers-guilt-every-time--75297341</link><description><![CDATA[You set the boundary. You said the no. It was reasonable, it was necessary, and you'd stand by it if anyone asked. So why have you been replaying it for two days, wondering if you were too harsh?This episode is about the part of boundaries nobody warns you about. Not the saying, but everything that hits you afterward. We get into why boundaries disrupt the version of you people expect, why guilt shows up even when you've done nothing wrong, and how learning to read that guilt differently is where self-trust actually starts.If you set a boundary and then talk yourself right back out of it, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 4 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Boundaries, Voice &amp; Self-Trust."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">b03ac43f-d118-4f11-90ce-c5f04f582ee6</guid><pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75297341/a84251d7_946b_c6e8_a51c_a7ed5bae3c92.mp3" length="12502273" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>You set the boundary. You said the no. It was reasonable, it was necessary, and you'd stand by it if anyone asked. So why have you been replaying it for two days, wondering if you were too harsh?This episode is about the part of boundaries nobody...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[You set the boundary. You said the no. It was reasonable, it was necessary, and you'd stand by it if anyone asked. So why have you been replaying it for two days, wondering if you were too harsh?This episode is about the part of boundaries nobody warns you about. Not the saying, but everything that hits you afterward. We get into why boundaries disrupt the version of you people expect, why guilt shows up even when you've done nothing wrong, and how learning to read that guilt differently is where self-trust actually starts.If you set a boundary and then talk yourself right back out of it, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 4 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled "Boundaries, Voice &amp; Self-Trust."📖 Get 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms' on Amazon:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>782</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c83b1cfa39ffdf198479ca7866949457.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Real Reason You Can’t Admit You’re Not Okay</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-real-reason-you-can-t-admit-you-re-not-okay--75145762</link><description><![CDATA[Somebody asks how you're doing and you say fine before the question even lands. No pause, no thought, just the reflex. It's practical, it keeps things moving, and it works so well that you can spend years managing everything on the surface while losing track of what's actually going on underneath.This episode is about the gap between how well you're functioning and how you're actually doing. We get into the difference between coping and healing, why the two look identical from the outside, and how "I'm fine" slowly becomes a wall between you and your own experience.If you've gotten so good at holding it together that you're not sure what's underneath anymore, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 3 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled Emotional Truth &amp; Self-Honesty, available on Amazon. Links to the book and to private coaching are below.📖 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms':https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">c837faa6-63db-4f99-9668-3f319989e172</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75145762/431474219_44100_2_4f74ea762ba9.mp3" length="11230706" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Somebody asks how you're doing and you say fine before the question even lands. No pause, no thought, just the reflex. It's practical, it keeps things moving, and it works so well that you can spend years managing everything on the surface while...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Somebody asks how you're doing and you say fine before the question even lands. No pause, no thought, just the reflex. It's practical, it keeps things moving, and it works so well that you can spend years managing everything on the surface while losing track of what's actually going on underneath.This episode is about the gap between how well you're functioning and how you're actually doing. We get into the difference between coping and healing, why the two look identical from the outside, and how "I'm fine" slowly becomes a wall between you and your own experience.If you've gotten so good at holding it together that you're not sure what's underneath anymore, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 3 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled Emotional Truth &amp; Self-Honesty, available on Amazon. Links to the book and to private coaching are below.📖 'Rebuilding Life on Your Terms':https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GY9NWXQ3📅 Book a free coaching consultation:https://calendar.app.google/eAnXcxLG1BK25GZN8]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>702</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/d5bd9671cfcd992d94f503e4eb728fad.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Help You Won't Let Yourself Take</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-help-you-won-t-let-yourself-take--75000452</link><description><![CDATA[You've learned to need almost nothing. You'd rather do it the hard way, on your own, than ask for help and feel whatever asking brings up in you. It looks like independence, and a lot of it is, but underneath sits a quieter belief that needing something says something about you.This episode is about where that belief came from and what it costs you to keep hiding what you need. We get into the shame that shows up around asking, the definition of "capable" you were handed before you had any say in it, and the internalized ableism most of us were never taught to name.If you're tired in a place sleep doesn't reach, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 2 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled Disability, Limitations &amp; Self-Worth, available on Amazon. Links to the book and to private coaching are below.<br />Amazon Link: <br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">815b3ee8-8ead-4198-bf07-6f9fd6ba99ab</guid><pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/75000452/429239357_44100_2_3d89e6b910484.mp3" length="12472881" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>You've learned to need almost nothing. You'd rather do it the hard way, on your own, than ask for help and feel whatever asking brings up in you. It looks like independence, and a lot of it is, but underneath sits a quieter belief that needing...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[You've learned to need almost nothing. You'd rather do it the hard way, on your own, than ask for help and feel whatever asking brings up in you. It looks like independence, and a lot of it is, but underneath sits a quieter belief that needing something says something about you.This episode is about where that belief came from and what it costs you to keep hiding what you need. We get into the shame that shows up around asking, the definition of "capable" you were handed before you had any say in it, and the internalized ableism most of us were never taught to name.If you're tired in a place sleep doesn't reach, this one's for you.This conversation comes out of Chapter 2 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, titled Disability, Limitations &amp; Self-Worth, available on Amazon. Links to the book and to private coaching are below.<br />Amazon Link: <br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>780</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/720746dcff9cd5243242fd3787d46d8b.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Cost of Survival</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-cost-of-survival--74782454</link><description><![CDATA[You've always been the one who handles things. When life got hard, you found a way through, and somewhere along the way being strong stopped feeling like a choice and started feeling like the only version of you that's allowed to exist.This episode is about what that strength has quietly cost you. We get into where it came from, how it went from something you do to something you think you are, and the uncomfortable gap between being able to carry something and actually wanting to.If you've spent years being the dependable one and you're starting to feel the weight of it, start here.This conversation comes out of Chapter 1 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, available on Amazon. Links to the book and to private coaching are below.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bec49656-c8c8-418f-ae3c-c84273fb2c4a</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/74782454/430443569_44100_2_97e03cb969ffb.mp3" length="12599522" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>You've always been the one who handles things. When life got hard, you found a way through, and somewhere along the way being strong stopped feeling like a choice and started feeling like the only version of you that's allowed to exist.This episode is...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[You've always been the one who handles things. When life got hard, you found a way through, and somewhere along the way being strong stopped feeling like a choice and started feeling like the only version of you that's allowed to exist.This episode is about what that strength has quietly cost you. We get into where it came from, how it went from something you do to something you think you are, and the uncomfortable gap between being able to carry something and actually wanting to.If you've spent years being the dependable one and you're starting to feel the weight of it, start here.This conversation comes out of Chapter 1 of my book, Rebuilding Life on Your Terms, available on Amazon. 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It’s not about closure or lessons learned. It’s about what it feels like to keep living when you’re no longer in crisis, but you’re not settled either — when the support fades, the questions stop, and you’re still figuring out who you are now.This conversation centers the experience of women — especially Black women — navigating long transitions without timelines, applause, or clear endings. We talk about patience, identity, loneliness, and the pressure to appear “okay” while things are still rearranging internally.This episode closes out Season 2 by naming a truth we don’t hear often: some seasons don’t resolve cleanly, and some turning points take longer than expected. If you’re still standing in the middle, this conversation is for you.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7e5f17f2-7294-4158-b99a-f275511f977f</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 12:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70567597/416514170_44100_2_8d78a9854116b.mp3" length="8914376" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The middle of a life transition is often longer than we expect. In the Season 2 finale, Jamila reflects on what it means to live in the in-between — after things have changed, but before anything feels resolved.This episode explores the quiet,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The middle of a life transition is often longer than we expect. In the Season 2 finale, Jamila reflects on what it means to live in the in-between — after things have changed, but before anything feels resolved.This episode explores the quiet, extended middle that comes after loss, faith shifts, starting over, forgiveness, and emotional rebuilding. It’s not about closure or lessons learned. It’s about what it feels like to keep living when you’re no longer in crisis, but you’re not settled either — when the support fades, the questions stop, and you’re still figuring out who you are now.This conversation centers the experience of women — especially Black women — navigating long transitions without timelines, applause, or clear endings. We talk about patience, identity, loneliness, and the pressure to appear “okay” while things are still rearranging internally.This episode closes out Season 2 by naming a truth we don’t hear often: some seasons don’t resolve cleanly, and some turning points take longer than expected. If you’re still standing in the middle, this conversation is for you.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>558</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a906398913964f625baf173a7d5f54ae.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Navigating Wins when You Have No One to Share Them With</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/navigating-wins-when-you-have-no-one-to-share-them-with--70409567</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of The Messy Middle, Season 2, Jamila sits down with special guest, Elle, to explore a rarely discussed experience — what it’s like to achieve wins, reach milestones, and make progress with no cheering section.Success is often imagined as loud and celebrated, but many women know the quieter reality: personal victories that happen in isolation, growth that feels unseen, and accomplishments that don’t always bring the joy we expect. This conversation unpacks the emotional and psychological layers of navigating “silent wins,” including loneliness, self-validation, shifting motivation, and redefining what success actually means.If you’ve ever reached a goal and felt the weight of having no one to share it with, this episode will resonate.Topics include:• Silent milestones and private victories• The emotional side of success• Loneliness, validation, and identity• How isolation reshapes ambition and growth• Reframing success without external applauseSubscribe for honest conversations about growth, transitions, and the realities of living in the messy middle of life.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bd3ae6cf-5a1b-488e-a673-280dfff714d7</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70409567/418315402_44100_2_3487af6062d6b.mp3" length="51024038" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of The Messy Middle, Season 2, Jamila sits down with special guest, Elle, to explore a rarely discussed experience — what it’s like to achieve wins, reach milestones, and make progress with no cheering section.Success is often imagined...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of The Messy Middle, Season 2, Jamila sits down with special guest, Elle, to explore a rarely discussed experience — what it’s like to achieve wins, reach milestones, and make progress with no cheering section.Success is often imagined as loud and celebrated, but many women know the quieter reality: personal victories that happen in isolation, growth that feels unseen, and accomplishments that don’t always bring the joy we expect. This conversation unpacks the emotional and psychological layers of navigating “silent wins,” including loneliness, self-validation, shifting motivation, and redefining what success actually means.If you’ve ever reached a goal and felt the weight of having no one to share it with, this episode will resonate.Topics include:• Silent milestones and private victories• The emotional side of success• Loneliness, validation, and identity• How isolation reshapes ambition and growth• Reframing success without external applauseSubscribe for honest conversations about growth, transitions, and the realities of living in the messy middle of life.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3189</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ffde273cf7d8e5b2caf31fb3f7755a5f.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Forgiving Without Forgetting</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/forgiving-without-forgetting--70250020</link><description><![CDATA[Forgiveness isn’t the same as forgetting — and it isn’t a one-time decision. In this episode, Jamila explores what forgiveness really looks like when the hurt still lives in your body, your memory, and your boundaries.This conversation unpacks the messy middle of forgiveness: choosing peace without minimizing harm, releasing resentment without forcing reconciliation, and telling the truth about what happened without letting it define you. For many Black women, forgiveness comes with pressure — to be gracious, resilient, spiritually mature, and “over it” — even when the damage was never acknowledged.This episode speaks to anyone navigating forgiveness after betrayal, emotional harm, family wounds, or long-standing hurt. We talk about anger, compassion, boundaries, grief, and the quiet work of healing that doesn’t come with closure or apologies.This is not a conversation about excusing behavior or rushing the process. It’s about forgiving in a way that protects your dignity, honors your experience, and allows you to move forward without erasing the truth.This episode is for you if: • You’re trying to forgive but still feel hurt or angry • You don’t want reconciliation, but you want peace • You’re learning to set boundaries instead of bleeding quietly • You’re healing without apologies or closure • You’re redefining forgiveness on your own termsIf this resonates, take a breath and honor where you are. Forgiveness doesn’t have to be clean or complete to be real.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">86e3cc70-603d-48dd-8dd2-10de91c47f25</guid><pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70250020/416513851_44100_2_afcccbdb3cf3a.mp3" length="6331388" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Forgiveness isn’t the same as forgetting — and it isn’t a one-time decision. In this episode, Jamila explores what forgiveness really looks like when the hurt still lives in your body, your memory, and your boundaries.This conversation unpacks the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Forgiveness isn’t the same as forgetting — and it isn’t a one-time decision. In this episode, Jamila explores what forgiveness really looks like when the hurt still lives in your body, your memory, and your boundaries.This conversation unpacks the messy middle of forgiveness: choosing peace without minimizing harm, releasing resentment without forcing reconciliation, and telling the truth about what happened without letting it define you. For many Black women, forgiveness comes with pressure — to be gracious, resilient, spiritually mature, and “over it” — even when the damage was never acknowledged.This episode speaks to anyone navigating forgiveness after betrayal, emotional harm, family wounds, or long-standing hurt. We talk about anger, compassion, boundaries, grief, and the quiet work of healing that doesn’t come with closure or apologies.This is not a conversation about excusing behavior or rushing the process. It’s about forgiving in a way that protects your dignity, honors your experience, and allows you to move forward without erasing the truth.This episode is for you if: • You’re trying to forgive but still feel hurt or angry • You don’t want reconciliation, but you want peace • You’re learning to set boundaries instead of bleeding quietly • You’re healing without apologies or closure • You’re redefining forgiveness on your own termsIf this resonates, take a breath and honor where you are. Forgiveness doesn’t have to be clean or complete to be real.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>396</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/06b4cd139a3ba4532e45bb9f394afc53.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Weight of Stereotypes and Expectations on Black Women</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-weight-of-stereotypes-and-expectations-on-black-women--70098404</link><description><![CDATA[This episode digs into the pressure Black women carry when we’re expected to be “strong,” unbreakable, and always okay — even when we’re exhausted. We’re talking about the stereotypes that shape how we’re treated, how we treat ourselves, and what it costs us to keep performing resilience while we’re hurting. This conversation invites us to lay some of that weight down, question who benefits from our constant strength, and explore what it looks like to choose softness, rest, and self-honesty instead of survival mode.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">0977d9df-fae1-4304-93e7-59567a21faac</guid><pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70098404/415290621_44100_2_b2899e9413e53.mp3" length="8703725" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This episode digs into the pressure Black women carry when we’re expected to be “strong,” unbreakable, and always okay — even when we’re exhausted. We’re talking about the stereotypes that shape how we’re treated, how we treat ourselves, and what it...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode digs into the pressure Black women carry when we’re expected to be “strong,” unbreakable, and always okay — even when we’re exhausted. We’re talking about the stereotypes that shape how we’re treated, how we treat ourselves, and what it costs us to keep performing resilience while we’re hurting. This conversation invites us to lay some of that weight down, question who benefits from our constant strength, and explore what it looks like to choose softness, rest, and self-honesty instead of survival mode.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>544</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/98f3ebd5edb15763e3412ca218ce71d0.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Black Women Use Life Transitions to Build Wealth and Success</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-black-women-use-life-transitions-to-build-wealth-and-success--69951918</link><description><![CDATA[Life transitions don’t just change your circumstances — they force you to rebuild how you see yourself, your future, and your possibilities. In this episode of The Messy Middle, we’re talking about how Black women are using major life shifts — career changes, divorce, relocation, grief, starting over in midlife — as turning points for building wealth, stability, and self-defined success. This conversation gets honest about fear, resilience, reinvention, and the quiet courage it takes to create a life that finally supports you back.<br />This episode sits in the messy middle of transition — where you’re no longer who you were spiritually, but you’re still figuring out who you’re becoming.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e68a6858-7906-4109-9032-3efdd4a3eccc</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69951918/415287400_44100_2_69a0d934c3f9a.mp3" length="5821060" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Life transitions don’t just change your circumstances — they force you to rebuild how you see yourself, your future, and your possibilities. 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This conversation gets honest about fear, resilience, reinvention, and the quiet courage it takes to create a life that finally supports you back.<br />This episode sits in the messy middle of transition — where you’re no longer who you were spiritually, but you’re still figuring out who you’re becoming.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>364</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/98f3ebd5edb15763e3412ca218ce71d0.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When Naming Your Needs Feels Risky</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-naming-your-needs-feels-risky--69761021</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode, we’re talking about the moments when naming your needs doesn’t just feel vulnerable — it feels risky. The kind of risky that makes your chest tighten, your voice hesitate, and your mind wonder what might change once you finally say out loud what you’ve been carrying in silence.<br />We explore why so many women learn to shrink, adjust, and “make do” in relationships — and how our history with abandonment, dismissal, and emotional minimization shapes the way we show up when it’s time to ask for reciprocity, consistency, or emotional safety. We talk about what clarity reveals, why some people pull away when accountability shows up, and how honoring your needs can strengthen the relationship you have with yourself — even when it rearranges the dynamics around you.<br />If you’ve ever felt like speaking your truth might cost you connection, this conversation is for you.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">29f56399-a7b1-4ad3-8722-98e0da8ae91d</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69761021/415194281_44100_2_23298f474fd9f.mp3" length="11536652" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we’re talking about the moments when naming your needs doesn’t just feel vulnerable — it feels risky. The kind of risky that makes your chest tighten, your voice hesitate, and your mind wonder what might change once you finally say...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we’re talking about the moments when naming your needs doesn’t just feel vulnerable — it feels risky. The kind of risky that makes your chest tighten, your voice hesitate, and your mind wonder what might change once you finally say out loud what you’ve been carrying in silence.<br />We explore why so many women learn to shrink, adjust, and “make do” in relationships — and how our history with abandonment, dismissal, and emotional minimization shapes the way we show up when it’s time to ask for reciprocity, consistency, or emotional safety. We talk about what clarity reveals, why some people pull away when accountability shows up, and how honoring your needs can strengthen the relationship you have with yourself — even when it rearranges the dynamics around you.<br />If you’ve ever felt like speaking your truth might cost you connection, this conversation is for you.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>721</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a3ca615a275afd3c97a55917daaa4202.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Learning How to Live with Uncertainty</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/learning-how-to-live-with-uncertainty--69621452</link><description><![CDATA[This episode digs into what it means to keep moving when you don’t know the answer, the timing, or what comes next. 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We talk about the tension of waiting, the fear that rises in the unknown, and the courage it takes to show up anyway — with honesty, self-trust, and intention, even when the path isn’t clear.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>521</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b6767864005f7434197fbb02f578e0ce.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Starting Over in Your 40s</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/starting-over-in-your-40s--69519118</link><description><![CDATA[Starting over in your 40s can feel like standing in the middle of a life you’ve already lived and realizing you’re being asked to build again — with fewer illusions and a whole lot more truth. In this episode, we talk about the grief, the courage, and the quiet rebuilding that happens when the path you thought you were on no longer fits. We’re naming the fears, honoring the losses, and claiming the right to begin again with wisdom, self-honesty, and a future that actually reflects who you’ve become.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">e3a7978b-187d-4df5-9fe0-0523afbaefbd</guid><pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69519118/415192328_44100_2_ac1154a1f5251.mp3" length="6775953" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Starting over in your 40s can feel like standing in the middle of a life you’ve already lived and realizing you’re being asked to build again — with fewer illusions and a whole lot more truth. In this episode, we talk about the grief, the courage, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Starting over in your 40s can feel like standing in the middle of a life you’ve already lived and realizing you’re being asked to build again — with fewer illusions and a whole lot more truth. In this episode, we talk about the grief, the courage, and the quiet rebuilding that happens when the path you thought you were on no longer fits. We’re naming the fears, honoring the losses, and claiming the right to begin again with wisdom, self-honesty, and a future that actually reflects who you’ve become.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>424</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/de280e58e7d996c5a9c91708ec4ab2ca.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Dating After Damage (with special guest, Nichole Williams)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/dating-after-damage-with-special-guest-nichole-williams--69420294</link><description><![CDATA[Dating after you’ve been hurt is not simple. In this episode of The Messy Middle, Jamila sits down with Mindset and Confidence Coach Nichole Williams for a real conversation about love, trust, triggers, and rebuilding confidence after emotional damage. 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In this episode of The Messy Middle, Jamila sits down with Mindset and Confidence Coach Nichole Williams for a real conversation about love, trust, triggers, and rebuilding confidence after emotional damage. They talk about intuition vs trauma responses, emotional safety, boundaries, and what it really looks like to date while you’re still healing. 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It explores what it feels like to still believe in God while feeling disconnected from the pressure, silence, and expectations that came with church culture.<br />This is the middle of a spiritual turning point — where the old version of faith doesn’t fit anymore, and the new version hasn’t fully formed. If you’re questioning, rethinking, or rebuilding your relationship with God, this conversation creates space to be honest about where you are without guilt or fear.<br />Your faith can grow with you. You’re allowed to change spiritually. And you’re not wrong for asking the questions you were taught to ignore.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">0adcb220-c9bc-4caa-808c-915430a505fb</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69324312/3276d0bf_d567_4d04_d125_38ce2a5c6efa.mp3" length="3724243" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This episode dives into the quiet, complicated journey Black women face when their faith begins to shift. It explores what it feels like to still believe in God while feeling disconnected from the pressure, silence, and expectations that came with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode dives into the quiet, complicated journey Black women face when their faith begins to shift. It explores what it feels like to still believe in God while feeling disconnected from the pressure, silence, and expectations that came with church culture.<br />This is the middle of a spiritual turning point — where the old version of faith doesn’t fit anymore, and the new version hasn’t fully formed. If you’re questioning, rethinking, or rebuilding your relationship with God, this conversation creates space to be honest about where you are without guilt or fear.<br />Your faith can grow with you. You’re allowed to change spiritually. And you’re not wrong for asking the questions you were taught to ignore.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>466</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bc4a783a235d7634e2abcc0bd28e3315.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating in the Dark</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-in-the-dark--68054305</link><description><![CDATA[In this season finale, I’m not talking to you—I’m talking with you. About the tension between wanting to create something meaningful and feeling invisible while doing it. About the moments when you show up with your whole heart and still feel like no one sees it. This isn’t a pep talk. It’s the middle of trying to trust your gift when the world stays silent. If you’ve ever poured yourself into something and wondered if it even mattered, this one’s for you.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5d962f3e-3f37-44df-8af8-4ebc6589f011</guid><pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68054305/406559943_44100_2_bfdb36c0562fa.mp3" length="7877419" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this season finale, I’m not talking to you—I’m talking with you. About the tension between wanting to create something meaningful and feeling invisible while doing it. About the moments when you show up with your whole heart and still feel like no...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this season finale, I’m not talking to you—I’m talking with you. About the tension between wanting to create something meaningful and feeling invisible while doing it. About the moments when you show up with your whole heart and still feel like no one sees it. This isn’t a pep talk. It’s the middle of trying to trust your gift when the world stays silent. If you’ve ever poured yourself into something and wondered if it even mattered, this one’s for you.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>493</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/49d1fc60c945f36b11ebc7a1b9db5c94.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Half-Healed: Lingering After Breakup | The Messy Middle Podcast 🎙️</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/half-healed-lingering-after-breakup-the-messy-middle-podcast--67950354</link><description><![CDATA[There’s a space nobody talks about—the one after the breakup but before the healing. You’re not checking their page every day anymore, but they still live in your mind rent-free. You’re not going back, but you’re also not quite free either.In this episode of The Messy Middle Podcast 🎙️, we sit with the confusing, in-between space of heartbreak—the part where the crying is done but the ache hasn’t left. It’s the space of lingering feelings, unfinished closure, and the slow, quiet work of letting go.You’ll hear: • Why moving on is rarely a straight line • The difference between missing a person and missing how you felt • How grief after love shows up in layers, long after the breakup • Why staying gone—even when you’re not “over it”—is an act of strengthIf you’ve ever felt stuck between hurting and healing, this conversation is for you.<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7fe69f8d-7370-45e7-bd0f-0955ec7cef37</guid><pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 10:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67950354/407887368_44100_2_b17ef20f40537.mp3" length="6400626" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jamila</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>There’s a space nobody talks about—the one after the breakup but before the healing. You’re not checking their page every day anymore, but they still live in your mind rent-free. You’re not going back, but you’re also not quite free either.In this...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[There’s a space nobody talks about—the one after the breakup but before the healing. You’re not checking their page every day anymore, but they still live in your mind rent-free. You’re not going back, but you’re also not quite free either.In this episode of The Messy Middle Podcast 🎙️, we sit with the confusing, in-between space of heartbreak—the part where the crying is done but the ache hasn’t left. It’s the space of lingering feelings, unfinished closure, and the slow, quiet work of letting go.You’ll hear: • Why moving on is rarely a straight line • The difference between missing a person and missing how you felt • How grief after love shows up in layers, long after the breakup • Why staying gone—even when you’re not “over it”—is an act of strengthIf you’ve ever felt stuck between hurting and healing, this conversation is for you.<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>401</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/49d1fc60c945f36b11ebc7a1b9db5c94.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Still Friends…But Not Really: Outgrowing Friendships</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/still-friends-but-not-really-outgrowing-friendships--67863724</link><description><![CDATA[Some friendships don’t end. 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