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<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Refactoring Podcast</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast--6091136</link><description><![CDATA[Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/6091136/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Management</category><copyright>Copyright Luca Rossi</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a743ff07dbb9224853d8e28bd80bec3e.jpg</url><title>Refactoring Podcast</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/refactoring-podcast--6091136</link></image><lastBuildDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 08:24:53 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Luca Rossi</itunes:name><itunes:email>feeds@spreaker.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a743ff07dbb9224853d8e28bd80bec3e.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>Speed Is the Only Moat 🏎️ — with Anush Elangovan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/speed-is-the-only-moat-with-anush-elangovan--73023696</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software at AMD. With Anush, we talked about how he thinks about open source as a key strategic driver in the AI era, and how his team is able to stay super fast while ensuring quality by combining their internal work with their external contributions.And then we got into a rabbit hole about how to get big companies ready for AI, how to think about human capital, and how Anush personally spends his time. And spoiler alert, he is back to doing IC work for up to 40% of his time.(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">00:00</a>) Episode start(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=91s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:31</a>) Introducing Anush Elangovan(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=99s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:39</a>) AMD's open-source AI stack(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=248s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">04:08</a>) Sponsor break(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=334s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">05:34</a>) How AI contributions are reshaping open-source maintenance(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=513s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">08:33</a>) From demo to production: the quality gates funnel(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=670s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">11:10</a>) When agents game the system(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1030s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">17:10</a>) Speed as a moat: the open-source flywheel(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1231s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">20:31</a>) Agent-first development: what it really looks like(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1436s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">23:56</a>) AI cleanup: getting legacy code ready for agents(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1704s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">28:24</a>) The excavator analogy(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1868s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">31:08</a>) The new engineers(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=2052s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">34:12</a>) VP doing IC work(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=2608s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">43:28</a>) Open-weight models, AI as electricity, and what's next-Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVA3ZllQRy1NNkxZcVpiWkVJUkVwYUJNQmdMQXxBQ3Jtc0ttR2NBcXAtTG9VeVJiOE9xZ0tVNFVnVWFadlNuYUw2REstQm84blFjUmdQSGRod1NEWjVzZGdTQmRqbktJV09TNzhJRkdlMnNtM3V5SGNfNHRyS01Ka0c2WFNnUmRVMm5WTVZyMzZybXVuOFJaWEdqOA&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fgetunblocked.com%2Frefactoring&amp;v=w2F-u0kJllA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://getunblocked.com/refactoring</a>-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9e75c0d1-31a2-4d76-a857-8fd1b202ca4b</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/73023696/428096314_44100_2_afe5b3efc87c.mp3" length="49730036" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software at AMD. With Anush, we talked about how he thinks about open source as a key strategic driver in the AI era, and how his team is able to stay super fast while ensuring quality by combining their...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Anush Elangovan, VP of AI Software at AMD. With Anush, we talked about how he thinks about open source as a key strategic driver in the AI era, and how his team is able to stay super fast while ensuring quality by combining their internal work with their external contributions.And then we got into a rabbit hole about how to get big companies ready for AI, how to think about human capital, and how Anush personally spends his time. And spoiler alert, he is back to doing IC work for up to 40% of his time.(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">00:00</a>) Episode start(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=91s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:31</a>) Introducing Anush Elangovan(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=99s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:39</a>) AMD's open-source AI stack(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=248s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">04:08</a>) Sponsor break(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=334s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">05:34</a>) How AI contributions are reshaping open-source maintenance(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=513s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">08:33</a>) From demo to production: the quality gates funnel(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=670s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">11:10</a>) When agents game the system(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1030s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">17:10</a>) Speed as a moat: the open-source flywheel(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1231s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">20:31</a>) Agent-first development: what it really looks like(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1436s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">23:56</a>) AI cleanup: getting legacy code ready for agents(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1704s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">28:24</a>) The excavator analogy(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=1868s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">31:08</a>) The new engineers(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=2052s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">34:12</a>) VP doing IC work(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F-u0kJllA&amp;t=2608s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">43:28</a>) Open-weight models, AI as electricity, and what's next-Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVA3ZllQRy1NNkxZcVpiWkVJUkVwYUJNQmdMQXxBQ3Jtc0ttR2NBcXAtTG9VeVJiOE9xZ0tVNFVnVWFadlNuYUw2REstQm84blFjUmdQSGRod1NEWjVzZGdTQmRqbktJV09TNzhJRkdlMnNtM3V5SGNfNHRyS01Ka0c2WFNnUmRVMm5WTVZyMzZybXVuOFJaWEdqOA&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fgetunblocked.com%2Frefactoring&amp;v=w2F-u0kJllA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://getunblocked.com/refactoring</a>-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3109</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3e7be33074105e6ba02d31e1e248a80a.jpg"/><itunes:episode>68</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Rise of Malleable Software 🧩 — with Geoffrey Litt</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-rise-of-malleable-software-with-geoffrey-litt--72910578</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Geoffrey Litt, Design Engineer at Notion. With Geoffrey, we talked about malleable software, a type of platform that kind of always existed, but is now getting new meaning and opportunity thanks to AI.<br />And then we talked about how Notion itself changed its place in the ecosystem, with the AI agents first, and now with the new developer platform, where you can ship code directly inside Notion. And finally, we talked about how Notion builds Notion, design as shipping code to production, internal prototyping, feature flags, and more.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:26) Introducing Geoffrey Litt(01:58) Malleable software(05:37) Sponsor break(07:11) The nightmare bycicle analogy(09:56) Teach users just in time(14:15) How Notion exposes structure(17:41) Vibe coding vs platforms(19:18) Notion's shift from walled garden to developer hub(20:57) Bringing external coding agents into Notion(26:43) The accountants analogy: why more productivity creates more jobs(33:30) Trust and oversight: AI agents(40:32) How design engineers ship to production daily at Notion(47:39) Prototyping in code<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at https://getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">c47ad7da-efd2-4087-a939-87df00a73ba3</guid><pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72910578/427633252_44100_2_ae8931bdd4457.mp3" length="54835826" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Geoffrey Litt, Design Engineer at Notion. With Geoffrey, we talked about malleable software, a type of platform that kind of always existed, but is now getting new meaning and opportunity thanks to AI.
And then we talked about how...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Geoffrey Litt, Design Engineer at Notion. With Geoffrey, we talked about malleable software, a type of platform that kind of always existed, but is now getting new meaning and opportunity thanks to AI.<br />And then we talked about how Notion itself changed its place in the ecosystem, with the AI agents first, and now with the new developer platform, where you can ship code directly inside Notion. And finally, we talked about how Notion builds Notion, design as shipping code to production, internal prototyping, feature flags, and more.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:26) Introducing Geoffrey Litt(01:58) Malleable software(05:37) Sponsor break(07:11) The nightmare bycicle analogy(09:56) Teach users just in time(14:15) How Notion exposes structure(17:41) Vibe coding vs platforms(19:18) Notion's shift from walled garden to developer hub(20:57) Bringing external coding agents into Notion(26:43) The accountants analogy: why more productivity creates more jobs(33:30) Trust and oversight: AI agents(40:32) How design engineers ship to production daily at Notion(47:39) Prototyping in code<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at https://getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3428</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7042c1153051ac8cc14eb872b3c331fa.jpg"/><itunes:episode>67</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Power of Stories ✍️ — with Michael "Rands" Lopp</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-power-of-stories-with-michael-rands-lopp--72699001</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.<br />Live at LDX3, we discussed his lifelong writing habit, the importance of giving feedback through stories and the leverage of leadership experience in the AI era.<br />(00:00) Episode start(00:40) A live chat with Rands at LeadDev(02:10) How to collect and write great leadership stories(03:38) Sponsor break(05:13) Writing as a habit: from journals to 14,000 readers(08:09) The power of naming things(10:20) Using stories to give feedback without being directive(12:40) Introverts, extroverts, and bringing calm to explosive situations(15:09) Tinkering with AI: joy, interns, and daily delight(19:18) "I was wrong" why managers should code again(21:54) Do we still need middle managers in the AI era?(27:40) The accountants analogy: why more productivity creates more jobs(36:25) Managing Robots: the book that's coming<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at https://getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">340245e6-e98a-4dfa-89ab-4ffe60704463</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72699001/426766807_44100_2_9e54ea9c2fff9.mp3" length="42143241" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.
Live at LDX3, we discussed his lifelong writing habit, the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.<br />Live at LDX3, we discussed his lifelong writing habit, the importance of giving feedback through stories and the leverage of leadership experience in the AI era.<br />(00:00) Episode start(00:40) A live chat with Rands at LeadDev(02:10) How to collect and write great leadership stories(03:38) Sponsor break(05:13) Writing as a habit: from journals to 14,000 readers(08:09) The power of naming things(10:20) Using stories to give feedback without being directive(12:40) Introverts, extroverts, and bringing calm to explosive situations(15:09) Tinkering with AI: joy, interns, and daily delight(19:18) "I was wrong" why managers should code again(21:54) Do we still need middle managers in the AI era?(27:40) The accountants analogy: why more productivity creates more jobs(36:25) Managing Robots: the book that's coming<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at https://getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2634</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/56bd28d6b1653afc757e49dd21545105.jpg"/><itunes:episode>66</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Understanding Engineers' Needs 🧬 — with Lara Hogan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/understanding-engineers-needs-with-lara-hogan--72494949</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Lara Hogan, an author, public speaker and coach for managers and leaders across the whole tech industry. And she's had a long career as VP of engineering at FLY, Kickstarter, Director Etsy and more. <br />So with Lara we talked about her journey in tech, which started with a philosophy degree. And then, taking from her work as a coach, we talked more about how successful teams are adopting AI and what you can do to make engineers feel safe about it. And finally, we explored the Biceps framework and how you can better understand people's needs at work.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:25) Introduction(02:59) Why nuanced AI takes matter more than slogans(04:25) Sponsor break(08:54) From philosophy major to engineering director(15:09) Becoming a manager(18:54) Do humanities give you an edge in the AI era?(22:04) Teams thriving with AI vs teams struggling(28:03) Setting clear expectations without creating fear(35:52) The AHA meetings: sharing learnings, not just wins(41:40) The BICEPS framework(47:18) When frustration isn't curiosity(52:58) Reflect back what you hear<br />—<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7f6e050e-cafa-4bb5-931f-6336cd737c82</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2026 06:57:40 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72494949/425653137_44100_2_67fbfb6da2188.mp3" length="55706434" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Lara Hogan, an author, public speaker and coach for managers and leaders across the whole tech industry. And she's had a long career as VP of engineering at FLY, Kickstarter, Director Etsy and more. 
So with Lara we talked about her...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Lara Hogan, an author, public speaker and coach for managers and leaders across the whole tech industry. And she's had a long career as VP of engineering at FLY, Kickstarter, Director Etsy and more. <br />So with Lara we talked about her journey in tech, which started with a philosophy degree. And then, taking from her work as a coach, we talked more about how successful teams are adopting AI and what you can do to make engineers feel safe about it. And finally, we explored the Biceps framework and how you can better understand people's needs at work.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:25) Introduction(02:59) Why nuanced AI takes matter more than slogans(04:25) Sponsor break(08:54) From philosophy major to engineering director(15:09) Becoming a manager(18:54) Do humanities give you an edge in the AI era?(22:04) Teams thriving with AI vs teams struggling(28:03) Setting clear expectations without creating fear(35:52) The AHA meetings: sharing learnings, not just wins(41:40) The BICEPS framework(47:18) When frustration isn't curiosity(52:58) Reflect back what you hear<br />—<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3482</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/46dd254f1ffb0aa534a53e873fc835ce.jpg"/><itunes:episode>65</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Future of Engineering 🔮 — with James Stanier</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-future-of-engineering-with-james-stanier--72222224</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is James Stanier, CTO at Nordhealth, former director at Shopify, an author of several books about engineering management, remote work, and more.<br />With James, we talked about what senior engineers will look like in the future, taking from a great article he wrote just recently, and then regarding how engineering management is changing, what's expected of managers today, and what you need to thrive.We also talked about AI adoption in his team, in our personal respective lives, and discussed the state of remote work in 2026.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:25) Introduction(02:05) Senior engineers in 2035(05:11) Sponsor break(06:45) Level of abstraction: from compilers to AI(10:17) Excited engineers and worried engineers(12:44) The bifurcation: vibe coders vs platform engineers(16:51) Engineering managing role changes(23:21) Managing time with expanding roles(28:32) Are hierarchies flattening?(36:25) AI adoption in James' team(41:27) What's hard in the AI era(44:36) AI as a personal assistant(50:05) Remote work in 2026<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d763a695-b4af-4acf-a823-3a98deef7baa</guid><pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72222224/425082239_44100_2_5c8e3e54db03e.mp3" length="56429086" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is James Stanier, CTO at Nordhealth, former director at Shopify, an author of several books about engineering management, remote work, and more.
With James, we talked about what senior engineers will look like in the future, taking from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is James Stanier, CTO at Nordhealth, former director at Shopify, an author of several books about engineering management, remote work, and more.<br />With James, we talked about what senior engineers will look like in the future, taking from a great article he wrote just recently, and then regarding how engineering management is changing, what's expected of managers today, and what you need to thrive.We also talked about AI adoption in his team, in our personal respective lives, and discussed the state of remote work in 2026.<br />(00:00) Episode start(01:25) Introduction(02:05) Senior engineers in 2035(05:11) Sponsor break(06:45) Level of abstraction: from compilers to AI(10:17) Excited engineers and worried engineers(12:44) The bifurcation: vibe coders vs platform engineers(16:51) Engineering managing role changes(23:21) Managing time with expanding roles(28:32) Are hierarchies flattening?(36:25) AI adoption in James' team(41:27) What's hard in the AI era(44:36) AI as a personal assistant(50:05) Remote work in 2026<br />-<br />Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring<br />-<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3527</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/643605ef1794c0dc9f99335c8b22369e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>64</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The State of Product Development 🔍 — with Doug Peete</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-state-of-product-development-with-doug-peete--72017527</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Doug Peete, Chief Product Officer at Atono, with whom over the last few months we have developed a deep industry report about the state of product development.In this chat we'll go through the main findings of the report, match them to our respective experience and explore ideas about how teams can do better with product development and AI(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">00:00</a>) Episode start(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=98s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:38</a>) Introduction(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=159s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">02:39</a>) Sponsor break(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=338s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">05:38</a>) Frailty of planning process(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=658s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">10:58</a>) Product(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=799s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">13:19</a>) What needs to be done(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1238s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">20:38</a>) Design reviews(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1593s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">26:33</a>) How to improve requirements(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1661s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">27:41</a>) Knowledge across teams(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2107s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">35:07</a>) Capturing the history of a product(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2354s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">39:14</a>) Enabling sharing process(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2837s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">47:17</a>) New metrics in AI era(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=3047s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">50:47</a>) AI in product requirements and products specs-Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring-You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4f853f49-211e-479d-b7f4-8308931ef10b</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72017527/424167293_44100_2_a803a08af7f22.mp3" length="58199143" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Doug Peete, Chief Product Officer at Atono, with whom over the last few months we have developed a deep industry report about the state of product development.In this chat we'll go through the main findings of the report, match them...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Doug Peete, Chief Product Officer at Atono, with whom over the last few months we have developed a deep industry report about the state of product development.In this chat we'll go through the main findings of the report, match them to our respective experience and explore ideas about how teams can do better with product development and AI(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">00:00</a>) Episode start(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=98s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">01:38</a>) Introduction(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=159s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">02:39</a>) Sponsor break(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=338s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">05:38</a>) Frailty of planning process(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=658s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">10:58</a>) Product(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=799s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">13:19</a>) What needs to be done(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1238s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">20:38</a>) Design reviews(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1593s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">26:33</a>) How to improve requirements(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=1661s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">27:41</a>) Knowledge across teams(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2107s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">35:07</a>) Capturing the history of a product(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2354s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">39:14</a>) Enabling sharing process(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=2837s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">47:17</a>) New metrics in AI era(<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6R720G2sw&amp;t=3047s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">50:47</a>) AI in product requirements and products specs-Today's episode is brought to you by Unblocked.Unblocked is the context layer for modern engineering teams.Get a free three-week trial at getunblocked.com/refactoring-You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3638</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/08f20756de1d843e4acbd31039ad6339.jpg"/><itunes:episode>63</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Own Your Career 🦝 — with Jean Hsu and Cate Huston</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-own-your-career-with-jean-hsu-and-cate-huston--71808912</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guests, plural, are Jean Hsu and Cate Huston.They're both extremely experienced engineering leaders and coaches, accomplished authors, and have held leadership roles at companies like Duck.co, Automattic, Medium and more. And are now running a program to help engineers and managers become, in their own words, directly responsible individuals of their careers to navigate these complicated times, to say the least. So with Jean and Cate, we talked about exploring what you want from your career, how to be intentional about it, how to use feedback to assess how you're doing, and how AI is changing and not changing the picture.(01:51) Introduction(03:39) Dealing with adverse conditions(09:45) Sponsor break(10:42) DRI your career and coaching(13:07) Career's approach(18:52) Figuring out your goal: Luca's example(30:48) Coaching for EMs vs coaching for ICs(32:23) Moving forward in your daily job(36:06) Feedbacks and culture of appreciation(41:32) Does AI change how do you think about your career?(45:42) AI pressure and AI passion-You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3b134f9b-8587-4929-9dc6-263c5cc60f14</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71808912/423176053_44100_2_7d536089cf877.mp3" length="54254862" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guests, plural, are Jean Hsu and Cate Huston.They're both extremely experienced engineering leaders and coaches, accomplished authors, and have held leadership roles at companies like Duck.co, Automattic, Medium and more. And are now running a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guests, plural, are Jean Hsu and Cate Huston.They're both extremely experienced engineering leaders and coaches, accomplished authors, and have held leadership roles at companies like Duck.co, Automattic, Medium and more. And are now running a program to help engineers and managers become, in their own words, directly responsible individuals of their careers to navigate these complicated times, to say the least. So with Jean and Cate, we talked about exploring what you want from your career, how to be intentional about it, how to use feedback to assess how you're doing, and how AI is changing and not changing the picture.(01:51) Introduction(03:39) Dealing with adverse conditions(09:45) Sponsor break(10:42) DRI your career and coaching(13:07) Career's approach(18:52) Figuring out your goal: Luca's example(30:48) Coaching for EMs vs coaching for ICs(32:23) Moving forward in your daily job(36:06) Feedbacks and culture of appreciation(41:32) Does AI change how do you think about your career?(45:42) AI pressure and AI passion-You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3391</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/aabd00e0b5b4af9d4ec7c98b76975588.jpg"/><itunes:episode>62</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>AI Coding meets Code Health 🪄 — with Stuart Caborn</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ai-coding-meets-code-health-with-stuart-caborn--71399959</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Stuart Caborn, distinguished engineer at loveholidays, which is an online travel agency with millions of customers around the world.<br />I'm talking with Stuart because his team is doing AI coding for real.They operate an extremely complex product and technology, with each engineer deploying to production more than 80 times a month, with more than 60% of production code being written with AI, all while maintaining an absolutely elite change failure rate under 1%, and with perfect code health.So, let's see how they pull this off.<br />(01:29) Introduction(02:30) What it loveholidays?(06:04) Sponsor break(07:00) loveholidays' AI approach(10:16) Code quality(13:36) Making quality visible(14:52) AI, MCP and top use cases(22:19) Code health and engineers' happiness(29:35) How was AI implemented at loveholidays(37:01) Experimenting with AI and skills(42:30) How to spread AI into an org(47:31) Guardrails in dev process(56:40) Other process changes<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7be88450-8e8e-4f96-90d1-8409aeee4a6c</guid><pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71399959/422206015_44100_2_b81184b5e2a45.mp3" length="62562637" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Stuart Caborn, distinguished engineer at loveholidays, which is an online travel agency with millions of customers around the world.
I'm talking with Stuart because his team is doing AI coding for real.They operate an extremely...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Stuart Caborn, distinguished engineer at loveholidays, which is an online travel agency with millions of customers around the world.<br />I'm talking with Stuart because his team is doing AI coding for real.They operate an extremely complex product and technology, with each engineer deploying to production more than 80 times a month, with more than 60% of production code being written with AI, all while maintaining an absolutely elite change failure rate under 1%, and with perfect code health.So, let's see how they pull this off.<br />(01:29) Introduction(02:30) What it loveholidays?(06:04) Sponsor break(07:00) loveholidays' AI approach(10:16) Code quality(13:36) Making quality visible(14:52) AI, MCP and top use cases(22:19) Code health and engineers' happiness(29:35) How was AI implemented at loveholidays(37:01) Experimenting with AI and skills(42:30) How to spread AI into an org(47:31) Guardrails in dev process(56:40) Other process changes<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3911</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/18a71b9ad554ea6ea545f6a8cd9a9406.jpg"/><itunes:episode>61</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Every Engineer Is a Manager Now 🤖 — with Chris Lattner</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/every-engineer-is-a-manager-now-with-chris-lattner--71079960</link><description><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Chris Lattner, one of the most important engineers for modern computing. Chris invented key compiler infrastructure tech like LLVM and MLIR, but he’s also the inventor of the Swift language, a key contributor in bringing Google TPUs to market, and a lot more. Today he’s the founder and CEO of Modular, where he’s reinventing AI infrastructure to make software portable across GPUs and platforms.<br />So with Chris, we talked about his vision for AI and computing. We talked about how Modular’s mission makes us closer to a future where AI is open and portable. And we talked about open source, how AI is both empowering and straining contributors, how it’s changing intellectual property, and what workflows we need to change as engineers.<br />And finally, we discussed how AI is changing software craftsmanship, how he’s bullish about junior engineers, and a lot more.<br />(00:00) Preview(02:11) Introduction(04:05) What is Modular?(06:13) Sponsor break(07:10) From CPU to GPU landscape(10:46) Objective-C Swift analogy(15:37) What is Modular for Chris?(17:37) The love for building(20:21) Chris' view on AI future(23:48) AI and open source(29:34) Figuring out new workflows(31:22) On licenses and copyright(33:42) High quality software(35:21) Coding faster with AI(41:27) The landscape of junior engineers(48:22) AI amplifies the good and the bad(52:21) Modular ceremonies(55:26) Tech debt<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">f98f1a1e-20be-42cc-a2a3-f00cf3c316b0</guid><pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71079960/421290969_44100_2_1d27ddd633e12.mp3" length="56619675" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today’s guest is Chris Lattner, one of the most important engineers for modern computing. Chris invented key compiler infrastructure tech like LLVM and MLIR, but he’s also the inventor of the Swift language, a key contributor in bringing Google TPUs...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Chris Lattner, one of the most important engineers for modern computing. Chris invented key compiler infrastructure tech like LLVM and MLIR, but he’s also the inventor of the Swift language, a key contributor in bringing Google TPUs to market, and a lot more. Today he’s the founder and CEO of Modular, where he’s reinventing AI infrastructure to make software portable across GPUs and platforms.<br />So with Chris, we talked about his vision for AI and computing. We talked about how Modular’s mission makes us closer to a future where AI is open and portable. And we talked about open source, how AI is both empowering and straining contributors, how it’s changing intellectual property, and what workflows we need to change as engineers.<br />And finally, we discussed how AI is changing software craftsmanship, how he’s bullish about junior engineers, and a lot more.<br />(00:00) Preview(02:11) Introduction(04:05) What is Modular?(06:13) Sponsor break(07:10) From CPU to GPU landscape(10:46) Objective-C Swift analogy(15:37) What is Modular for Chris?(17:37) The love for building(20:21) Chris' view on AI future(23:48) AI and open source(29:34) Figuring out new workflows(31:22) On licenses and copyright(33:42) High quality software(35:21) Coding faster with AI(41:27) The landscape of junior engineers(48:22) AI amplifies the good and the bad(52:21) Modular ceremonies(55:26) Tech debt<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3539</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b1c26b96424f3875e23d7385122321a2.jpg"/><itunes:episode>60</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>What Comes After the IDE 🖥 — with Amelia Wattenberger</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-comes-after-the-ide-with-amelia-wattenberger--70775551</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures.<br />But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding agents and delivering complex work. So this is a fascinating chat into the future and the present of software development with someone who has clearly been at the very frontier of this for many years.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:11) Introduction(03:26) What is "Intent"?(09:56) Splitting agents for best performance(12:32) Spec and subtasks(17:46) Decision and generation(22:15) Features, opinion and abstractions(25:37) The note system(27:41) Attitude is reflected in approach(35:21) Engineers in the new era of crafting(37:14) Managing skills applied to an agent environment(39:46) Orchestrating agents(45:50) The future of deep specialists<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">0ebeab5e-b89e-4cf8-8f75-1cb147413323</guid><pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70775551/420379415_44100_2_c833c77d00569.mp3" length="49555329" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures.
But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures.<br />But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding agents and delivering complex work. So this is a fascinating chat into the future and the present of software development with someone who has clearly been at the very frontier of this for many years.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:11) Introduction(03:26) What is "Intent"?(09:56) Splitting agents for best performance(12:32) Spec and subtasks(17:46) Decision and generation(22:15) Features, opinion and abstractions(25:37) The note system(27:41) Attitude is reflected in approach(35:21) Engineers in the new era of crafting(37:14) Managing skills applied to an agent environment(39:46) Orchestrating agents(45:50) The future of deep specialists<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3098</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ad3fc5eb1f925949ddc4e0c1c4050f32.jpg"/><itunes:episode>59</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Leading Beyond the Framework 🧭 — with Richard Hughes-Jones</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/leading-beyond-the-framework-with-richard-hughes-jones--70503211</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Richard Hughes-Jones, a professional executive coach with more than 20 years of experience. <br />With Richard, we talked about how to coach tech leaders through uncertainty and everything that's going on with AI, how to navigate it, how we should think about our role, and what it means to step outside of the framework.We also explored how to leverage AI for coaching, how to blend human and AI advice to get the best of both worlds.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:08) Introduction(02:26) Richard's journey into coaching(04:23) Sponsor break(05:19) Coaching without engineering background(07:27) Most common challenges(11:39) Helping people in uncertainty(19:10) Good for the team Vs Good for the business(22:13) Are frameworks limiting?(27:10) Creating a personal framework(31:49) Am I trying to be the hero?(34:35) Usual questions(39:07) AI and coaching<br />Link to article mentioned in the interview: https://richardhughesjones.substack.com/p/052-special-edition-what-i-learned—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9fec2584-bf57-428e-8703-52a366637901</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70503211/419376391_44100_2_dc585238d4bc4.mp3" length="49351783" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Richard Hughes-Jones, a professional executive coach with more than 20 years of experience. 
With Richard, we talked about how to coach tech leaders through uncertainty and everything that's going on with AI, how to navigate it, how...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Richard Hughes-Jones, a professional executive coach with more than 20 years of experience. <br />With Richard, we talked about how to coach tech leaders through uncertainty and everything that's going on with AI, how to navigate it, how we should think about our role, and what it means to step outside of the framework.We also explored how to leverage AI for coaching, how to blend human and AI advice to get the best of both worlds.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:08) Introduction(02:26) Richard's journey into coaching(04:23) Sponsor break(05:19) Coaching without engineering background(07:27) Most common challenges(11:39) Helping people in uncertainty(19:10) Good for the team Vs Good for the business(22:13) Are frameworks limiting?(27:10) Creating a personal framework(31:49) Am I trying to be the hero?(34:35) Usual questions(39:07) AI and coaching<br />Link to article mentioned in the interview: https://richardhughesjones.substack.com/p/052-special-edition-what-i-learned—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3085</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/68f2a6d375b49465142d023b55ebbb36.jpg"/><itunes:episode>58</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Master Behavioral Interviews 🎤 — with Austen McDonald</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-master-behavioral-interviews-with-austen-mcdonald--70173650</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Austen McDonald, former hiring committee chair at Meta, and author of the book, "Mastering Behavioral Interviews." <br />Austen, in his career, conducted more than 1,000 interviews and coached more than 200 engineers, and is here today to tell us everything about why behavioral interviews are more important than ever and how to run them right, as a candidate and as a recruiter.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:02) Introduction(01:37) Austen' interest in behavioral interviews(06:25) Sponsor break(07:31) Behavioral interviews as a senior or a junior engineer(09:55) The question behind a question: signal areas(13:09) Fails in behavioral interviews(16:38) Decode, select, deliver(17:15) The eight areas(19:02) How company culture reflects in hiring(21:59) Assessing company's culture as a candidate(23:49) The big three questions(29:26) Preparing for the big three questions(37:37) Deliver a story(40:28) Good preparation process(43:15) Do not lie(46:14) Recruiter side: biases(51:42) Candidate experience with AI: value questions<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">1c773cd9-c151-491f-95ac-ea5d7d5652bc</guid><pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70173650/418424216_44100_2_925655014e04.mp3" length="52972563" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Austen McDonald, former hiring committee chair at Meta, and author of the book, "Mastering Behavioral Interviews." 
Austen, in his career, conducted more than 1,000 interviews and coached more than 200 engineers, and is here today to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Austen McDonald, former hiring committee chair at Meta, and author of the book, "Mastering Behavioral Interviews." <br />Austen, in his career, conducted more than 1,000 interviews and coached more than 200 engineers, and is here today to tell us everything about why behavioral interviews are more important than ever and how to run them right, as a candidate and as a recruiter.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:02) Introduction(01:37) Austen' interest in behavioral interviews(06:25) Sponsor break(07:31) Behavioral interviews as a senior or a junior engineer(09:55) The question behind a question: signal areas(13:09) Fails in behavioral interviews(16:38) Decode, select, deliver(17:15) The eight areas(19:02) How company culture reflects in hiring(21:59) Assessing company's culture as a candidate(23:49) The big three questions(29:26) Preparing for the big three questions(37:37) Deliver a story(40:28) Good preparation process(43:15) Do not lie(46:14) Recruiter side: biases(51:42) Candidate experience with AI: value questions<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/736e790123542e4da3e07e02434cb77b.jpg"/><itunes:episode>57</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building Apps with Your Voice 🎤— with Paige Bailey</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-apps-with-your-voice-with-paige-bailey--69840974</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Paige Bailey, Developer Relations Lead at Google DeepMind. And before that, Principal Product Manager at GitHub, where she launched Copilot and several other AI products.With Paige, we went through a quick demo of how to build and deploy a fully functioning application just with your voice, one that includes accessing your camera, manipulating pictures, and having AI doing a live interview with you to fill out your profile. So this is a bit different episode than usual, so I encourage you to check out the full video, where Paige shares her screen and goes through all the steps.And we also talked about what's coming about AI, how engineers should think about their work, and how the Google DeepMind team is changing with all roles, basically converging to one. So let's dive right into the action.(00:00) Preview(01:32) Introduction(02:12) The best era for software engineers(05:36) Navigating AI tools(06:22) AI Studio Build demo(13:53) Choosing the right AI model(17:34) Prompts and intuition(19:13) Antigravity demo(23:43) Delegating and working with AI(26:00) AI at team level(28:38) Changes in product development teams(30:45) Next stages in working with AI(37:54) Rethink software engineering—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">c380df9c-e874-4f3b-9300-b4c0a9708fed</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69840974/417546397_44100_2_feb11330930ed.mp3" length="38632802" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Paige Bailey, Developer Relations Lead at Google DeepMind. And before that, Principal Product Manager at GitHub, where she launched Copilot and several other AI products.With Paige, we went through a quick demo of how to build and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Paige Bailey, Developer Relations Lead at Google DeepMind. And before that, Principal Product Manager at GitHub, where she launched Copilot and several other AI products.With Paige, we went through a quick demo of how to build and deploy a fully functioning application just with your voice, one that includes accessing your camera, manipulating pictures, and having AI doing a live interview with you to fill out your profile. So this is a bit different episode than usual, so I encourage you to check out the full video, where Paige shares her screen and goes through all the steps.And we also talked about what's coming about AI, how engineers should think about their work, and how the Google DeepMind team is changing with all roles, basically converging to one. So let's dive right into the action.(00:00) Preview(01:32) Introduction(02:12) The best era for software engineers(05:36) Navigating AI tools(06:22) AI Studio Build demo(13:53) Choosing the right AI model(17:34) Prompts and intuition(19:13) Antigravity demo(23:43) Delegating and working with AI(26:00) AI at team level(28:38) Changes in product development teams(30:45) Next stages in working with AI(37:54) Rethink software engineering—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2415</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ab52bf824ae99ac6b15e9b063fc1b8f5.jpg"/><itunes:episode>56</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Todoist is Built ✅ — with Gonçalo Silva</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-todoist-is-built-with-goncalo-silva--69556679</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Gonçalo Silva, CTO of Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist.<br />This interview is an incredible behind the scenes about one of the most peculiar companies in tech.<br />Because Doist is bootstrapped, profitable, has no office and has about 100 employees that are spread across about 40 countries. Yet, or maybe for this reason, they created one of the world's most beloved productivity tools, used by more than 25 million users and they're up against billion-dollar companies with hundreds of millions of funding.<br />So how do they pull this off? Let's find out.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:15) Introduction(04:26) What does Doist looks like?(06:48) The perfect number of people(09:44) Remote and async-first(15:59) Asynchronous threats(18:34) Todoist engineering teams(21:06) Continuity or chaos(28:18) A team for every platform(29:21) Product management(31:37) Product development process(34:03) Merging top-down strategies and bottom-up feedbacks(38:16) AI in product engineering(46:34) Team level AI practices<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">eebda22e-3817-4331-8197-09a55173577f</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69556679/416645806_44100_2_923f98cb02f0d.mp3" length="50383306" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Gonçalo Silva, CTO of Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist.
This interview is an incredible behind the scenes about one of the most peculiar companies in tech.
Because Doist is bootstrapped, profitable, has no office and has...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Gonçalo Silva, CTO of Doist, the company behind Todoist and Twist.<br />This interview is an incredible behind the scenes about one of the most peculiar companies in tech.<br />Because Doist is bootstrapped, profitable, has no office and has about 100 employees that are spread across about 40 countries. Yet, or maybe for this reason, they created one of the world's most beloved productivity tools, used by more than 25 million users and they're up against billion-dollar companies with hundreds of millions of funding.<br />So how do they pull this off? Let's find out.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:15) Introduction(04:26) What does Doist looks like?(06:48) The perfect number of people(09:44) Remote and async-first(15:59) Asynchronous threats(18:34) Todoist engineering teams(21:06) Continuity or chaos(28:18) A team for every platform(29:21) Product management(31:37) Product development process(34:03) Merging top-down strategies and bottom-up feedbacks(38:16) AI in product engineering(46:34) Team level AI practices<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3149</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/703cc79dbaf6529132b737d293d6a16e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>55</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Career Sabbaticals and Self Discovery 🔍 — with Thiago Ghisi</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/career-sabbaticals-and-self-discovery-with-thiago-ghisi--69369274</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi!Thiago is former director of engineering at Nubank and with a long and successful tech career in companies like ThoughtWorks, Apple and more. But right now, he's on a sabbatical and he's been for more than six months.So get ready for an incredible chat where we talked about your identity as an engineering leader, psychology, Claude Code and more.(00:00) Preview(01:01) Introduction(03:25) Quitting the job(10:32) Planning during a sabbatical(14:03) Detaching from your work identity(20:31) Measuring progress(26:03) Finding yourself: Claude Code and second brain(33:34) The biggest revelations(45:22) Thiago's next chapter—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5937021e-b0af-4795-8102-d4de45219e27</guid><pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2026 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69369274/415713410_44100_2_a097418bf8786.mp3" length="54074722" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi!Thiago is former director of engineering at Nubank and with a long and successful tech career in companies like ThoughtWorks, Apple and more. But right now, he's on a sabbatical and he's been for more than six months.So...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi!Thiago is former director of engineering at Nubank and with a long and successful tech career in companies like ThoughtWorks, Apple and more. But right now, he's on a sabbatical and he's been for more than six months.So get ready for an incredible chat where we talked about your identity as an engineering leader, psychology, Claude Code and more.(00:00) Preview(01:01) Introduction(03:25) Quitting the job(10:32) Planning during a sabbatical(14:03) Detaching from your work identity(20:31) Measuring progress(26:03) Finding yourself: Claude Code and second brain(33:34) The biggest revelations(45:22) Thiago's next chapter—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3380</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c6251b000fea0932563c2f12e0d51bb9.jpg"/><itunes:episode>54</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The State of AI Adoption 📊 — with Matt McClernan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-state-of-ai-adoption-with-matt-mcclernan--68896327</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Matt McClernan, CEO of Augment Code!<br />With Matt, we went through the findings of our own research that we developed together with Augment, surveying more than 400 engineering teams about how they're using AI.<br />And we went through many topics, from the differences between personal and team adoption, challenges, how documentation looks like a secret weapon, how to manage context in AI coding, and much more. And then we talked about the future, how the UX of AI coding is changing with IDEs, CLI tools and agents, and what the future might bring.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:26) Introduction(02:16) Personal vs Team AI Adoption(09:25) The journey of AI adoption(13:06) The role of documentation(18:13) AI and Context: the Augment secret sauce(25:44) Helping AI with context(28:17) Quality control in AI coding(36:30) Companies and AI in the near future(45:54) The state of UX in writing code(51:54) The scope of Augment<br />—<br />This episode is brought to you by Snyk! Join a live session with Vandana Verma Sehgal, OWASP Leader and Staff Developer Advocate at Snyk, on Thursday, December 11, at 11am ET<br />Register at https://go.snyk.io/12-11-owasp-top-10-isc2.html?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=so-sp&amp;utm_campaign=dm_im-refactoring_wbn_251211_owasp-top-10&amp;utm_term=refactoring&amp;utm_content=ad&amp;ref=plug.dev<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4e310518-cc67-407c-8292-602e11c6d6c0</guid><pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2025 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68896327/413747411_44100_2_b9b18a614df47.mp3" length="54096456" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Matt McClernan, CEO of Augment Code!
With Matt, we went through the findings of our own research that we developed together with Augment, surveying more than 400 engineering teams about how they're using AI.
And we went through many...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Matt McClernan, CEO of Augment Code!<br />With Matt, we went through the findings of our own research that we developed together with Augment, surveying more than 400 engineering teams about how they're using AI.<br />And we went through many topics, from the differences between personal and team adoption, challenges, how documentation looks like a secret weapon, how to manage context in AI coding, and much more. And then we talked about the future, how the UX of AI coding is changing with IDEs, CLI tools and agents, and what the future might bring.<br />(00:00) Preview(01:26) Introduction(02:16) Personal vs Team AI Adoption(09:25) The journey of AI adoption(13:06) The role of documentation(18:13) AI and Context: the Augment secret sauce(25:44) Helping AI with context(28:17) Quality control in AI coding(36:30) Companies and AI in the near future(45:54) The state of UX in writing code(51:54) The scope of Augment<br />—<br />This episode is brought to you by Snyk! Join a live session with Vandana Verma Sehgal, OWASP Leader and Staff Developer Advocate at Snyk, on Thursday, December 11, at 11am ET<br />Register at https://go.snyk.io/12-11-owasp-top-10-isc2.html?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=so-sp&amp;utm_campaign=dm_im-refactoring_wbn_251211_owasp-top-10&amp;utm_term=refactoring&amp;utm_content=ad&amp;ref=plug.dev<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3381</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e2a66f54bb0973da7b90c28675cd52a7.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Build Product Development Teams 🛠️ — with Rob Zuber</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-build-product-development-teams-with-rob-zuber--68691775</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rob Zuber, CTO of CircleCI!With Rob, we talked about software delivery, the impact of AI, and how to build great product engineering teams. And next, we discuss trade-offs between standardization versus flexibility in software organizations, and lessons learned from our respective past mistakes.(00:00) Preview(01:22) Introduction(03:33) Industry Changes and AI's Impact on Development(08:59) The Bell Curve of Metrics and Team Performance(12:09) From Engineering Metrics to Business Outcomes(14:31) Building Effective Small Teams(25:35) Experience vs. Curiosity(37:18) Scaling Challenges and Technology Decisions(49:26) Organizational Standards and Leadership Philosophy—This episode is brought to you by Codacy! Codacy helps developers save time in code reviews, so developers can focus on other things.Start your free trial and get 20% off your first 3 months at codacy.com/refactoring—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">18bca479-5da9-490a-ba8e-024b4e300972</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68691775/412942402_44100_2_e2e74fe2dc47.mp3" length="66447986" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Rob Zuber, CTO of CircleCI!With Rob, we talked about software delivery, the impact of AI, and how to build great product engineering teams. And next, we discuss trade-offs between standardization versus flexibility in software...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rob Zuber, CTO of CircleCI!With Rob, we talked about software delivery, the impact of AI, and how to build great product engineering teams. And next, we discuss trade-offs between standardization versus flexibility in software organizations, and lessons learned from our respective past mistakes.(00:00) Preview(01:22) Introduction(03:33) Industry Changes and AI's Impact on Development(08:59) The Bell Curve of Metrics and Team Performance(12:09) From Engineering Metrics to Business Outcomes(14:31) Building Effective Small Teams(25:35) Experience vs. Curiosity(37:18) Scaling Challenges and Technology Decisions(49:26) Organizational Standards and Leadership Philosophy—This episode is brought to you by Codacy! Codacy helps developers save time in code reviews, so developers can focus on other things.Start your free trial and get 20% off your first 3 months at codacy.com/refactoring—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4153</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4c5f43688c033ce42d580612e40500be.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>From Knowledge to Wisdom 🧠 — with Hywel Carver</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/from-knowledge-to-wisdom-with-hywel-carver--68458849</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Hywel Carver! Hywel is co-founder and CEO of Skiller Whale, which provides live team coaching for software engineering teams. With Hywel, we got deep into what makes traditional developer training awful, what engineers truly learn and what they should learn. Then we explored how to measure the impact of learning and how AI may possibly change both how learning works and our own skills.(00:00) Preview(01:15) Introduction(02:22) Hywel's journey in tech(06:20) Spreading good learning(07:55) Training as a compliance(09:34) The effectiveness of learning(12:42) Training with an expert(18:02) Knowledge, Skill and Wisdom(24:16) How Skiller Whale works?(30:26) The outcomes(34:53) Finding the proper learning method(40:12) Measuring learning value(46:54) AI, humans and code bases—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">560e5ce4-1ea8-46a3-8a17-2c69b5f79d28</guid><pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2025 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68458849/410759832_44100_2_5bb99c0b7187b.mp3" length="56204642" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Hywel Carver! Hywel is co-founder and CEO of Skiller Whale, which provides live team coaching for software engineering teams. With Hywel, we got deep into what makes traditional developer training awful, what engineers truly learn and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Hywel Carver! Hywel is co-founder and CEO of Skiller Whale, which provides live team coaching for software engineering teams. With Hywel, we got deep into what makes traditional developer training awful, what engineers truly learn and what they should learn. Then we explored how to measure the impact of learning and how AI may possibly change both how learning works and our own skills.(00:00) Preview(01:15) Introduction(02:22) Hywel's journey in tech(06:20) Spreading good learning(07:55) Training as a compliance(09:34) The effectiveness of learning(12:42) Training with an expert(18:02) Knowledge, Skill and Wisdom(24:16) How Skiller Whale works?(30:26) The outcomes(34:53) Finding the proper learning method(40:12) Measuring learning value(46:54) AI, humans and code bases—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3513</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6ecde8e310c42a69ad6afaf7d00a88aa.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The AI Transformation at Intercom 🤖 — with Darragh Curran</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-ai-transformation-at-intercom-with-darragh-curran--68262454</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Darragh Curran! <br />Darragh is the CTO of Intercom, which is one of the world's leading customer service products with more than 600 million users.<br />With Darragh, we talked about how AI poses at the same time an existential risk and an incredible opportunity for Intercom, and how this led them to the decision of creating a completely separate product and deflect most team resources to it. Then we discussed how AI is being adopted inside Intercom itself to achieve Darragh's ambitious goal of doubling the team's productivity.And finally, we explored Darragh's own role as CTO and what he believes he needs to get right to make all of this happen. <br />(00:00) Preview(01:31) Introduction(02:19) How Intercom changed with AI(07:02) Intercom and Fin(11:37) AI productivity gains(16:36) Measuring productivity increase(25:06) Experience and AI(31:02) AI in large and legacy systems(32:47) The CTO role in an AI framework(38:56) Good for human = Good for AI(42:03) Improving AI models: Fin's case(45:03) How Fin improved so fast(49:08) One big challenge<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">6ea0c9bc-fd36-4678-9537-21cedb6dc221</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68262454/409746112_44100_2_8f660ac685753.mp3" length="53233788" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Darragh Curran! 
Darragh is the CTO of Intercom, which is one of the world's leading customer service products with more than 600 million users.
With Darragh, we talked about how AI poses at the same time an existential risk and an...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Darragh Curran! <br />Darragh is the CTO of Intercom, which is one of the world's leading customer service products with more than 600 million users.<br />With Darragh, we talked about how AI poses at the same time an existential risk and an incredible opportunity for Intercom, and how this led them to the decision of creating a completely separate product and deflect most team resources to it. Then we discussed how AI is being adopted inside Intercom itself to achieve Darragh's ambitious goal of doubling the team's productivity.And finally, we explored Darragh's own role as CTO and what he believes he needs to get right to make all of this happen. <br />(00:00) Preview(01:31) Introduction(02:19) How Intercom changed with AI(07:02) Intercom and Fin(11:37) AI productivity gains(16:36) Measuring productivity increase(25:06) Experience and AI(31:02) AI in large and legacy systems(32:47) The CTO role in an AI framework(38:56) Good for human = Good for AI(42:03) Improving AI models: Fin's case(45:03) How Fin improved so fast(49:08) One big challenge<br />—You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3328</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/df7f391da697c0fec1372fccc20d7def.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building Psychologically Safe Teams 🛡️ — with Meg Adams</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-psychologically-safe-teams-with-meg-adams--68088287</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Meg Adams!Meg is Senior Director of Engineering for the New York Times. With Meg, we talked about her fantastic journey in tech, from management in sales and retail, to learning software development from scratch, to management again, but this time in technology. And then we especially talked about Neuro Leadership, what it is, how you can apply it in practice in your team processes, and how things are different for ICs versus managers, and how you scale all of this to your whole organization.(01:22) Introduction(01:38) Meg's journey in tech(06:03) Managing skills in individual contribution(09:32) What is Neuroleadership?(11:06) Neuroleadership in tech(14:12) The SCARF model(21:18) Applying the SCARF(27:29) Designing good communication(30:42) Psychological safety(35:10) Identifying a threat(38:28) Making SCARF model part of a culture(41:27) A good example: Meg's time at Etsy—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">586fe7fa-0872-4044-80e7-2c5a6faed6e6</guid><pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68088287/408823090_44100_2_fb486023d2c0a.mp3" length="47162513" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Meg Adams!Meg is Senior Director of Engineering for the New York Times. With Meg, we talked about her fantastic journey in tech, from management in sales and retail, to learning software development from scratch, to management again,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Meg Adams!Meg is Senior Director of Engineering for the New York Times. With Meg, we talked about her fantastic journey in tech, from management in sales and retail, to learning software development from scratch, to management again, but this time in technology. And then we especially talked about Neuro Leadership, what it is, how you can apply it in practice in your team processes, and how things are different for ICs versus managers, and how you scale all of this to your whole organization.(01:22) Introduction(01:38) Meg's journey in tech(06:03) Managing skills in individual contribution(09:32) What is Neuroleadership?(11:06) Neuroleadership in tech(14:12) The SCARF model(21:18) Applying the SCARF(27:29) Designing good communication(30:42) Psychological safety(35:10) Identifying a threat(38:28) Making SCARF model part of a culture(41:27) A good example: Meg's time at Etsy—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2948</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4f36e25b77451304620c12e7bf48ee71.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Navigating AI Development Workflows 🛠 — with Birgitta Böckeler</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/navigating-ai-development-workflows-with-birgitta-bockeler--67905407</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Birgitta Böckeler!<br />Birgitta is is a distinguished engineer and global lead for AI-assisted software delivery at ThoughtWorks. Her full-time work is to figure out how engineering teams can make the most out of AI.<br />With Birgitta, we talked about her favorite workflows, how she uses AI in the IDE, in the terminal or in a genetic mode. We discussed AI impact on productivity and what the best teams are getting right, which others are not. And finally, we talked about how AI impacts both junior and senior engineers and how we can get the best out of both skeptics and optimists.<br />(01:27) Introduction(04:58) A day in the work of data(11:04) Large and smalls change sets(15:57) The strength of Cloud Code(18:35) Using AI tools in ThoughtWorks(21:41) Figuring AI productive value(27:24) Getting the most out of AI(30:10) AI assistance in large code bases(32:21) Good for humans = Good for AI(39:10) AI and documentation(41:49) Software engineer role in AI landscape(48:24) Junior engineers and learning<br />—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.<br />Learn more at augmentcode.com!—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">b9c9ffec-4dd4-4787-bb5f-56bc41f8f792</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67905407/408127551_44100_2_3dcc9ea2249bc.mp3" length="48343666" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Birgitta Böckeler!
Birgitta is is a distinguished engineer and global lead for AI-assisted software delivery at ThoughtWorks. Her full-time work is to figure out how engineering teams can make the most out of AI.
With Birgitta, we...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Birgitta Böckeler!<br />Birgitta is is a distinguished engineer and global lead for AI-assisted software delivery at ThoughtWorks. Her full-time work is to figure out how engineering teams can make the most out of AI.<br />With Birgitta, we talked about her favorite workflows, how she uses AI in the IDE, in the terminal or in a genetic mode. We discussed AI impact on productivity and what the best teams are getting right, which others are not. And finally, we talked about how AI impacts both junior and senior engineers and how we can get the best out of both skeptics and optimists.<br />(01:27) Introduction(04:58) A day in the work of data(11:04) Large and smalls change sets(15:57) The strength of Cloud Code(18:35) Using AI tools in ThoughtWorks(21:41) Figuring AI productive value(27:24) Getting the most out of AI(30:10) AI assistance in large code bases(32:21) Good for humans = Good for AI(39:10) AI and documentation(41:49) Software engineer role in AI landscape(48:24) Junior engineers and learning<br />—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.<br />Learn more at augmentcode.com!—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305<br />—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3022</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41f727242c4e747d6256ea453845c03.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Automating Team Processes Gracefully ⚡ — with Antonia Scheidel</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/automating-team-processes-gracefully-with-antonia-scheidel--67731550</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Antonia Scheidel!Antonia is Director of Engineering at Duolingo, where she made the whole career progression, starting as a simple intern 12 years ago. Antonia is an expert at designing good, automated processes for your team. We discuss how to create good automation to avoid people doing glue work, how not to become a bottleneck as a manager, and how to make the team own the process and repair it when needed.(01:25) Introduction(02:02) Antonia's journey into tech(03:34) Antonia's career in Duolingo(06:55) From engineering to management(10:19) Good processing and notes(14:18) Fixing the process and team alignment(18:06) The burden of asking(23:08) Invisible work and visible improvements(27:55) Automation trade-offs(33:14) Responsibilities in estabilished processes(37:24) How to do notifications right(49:09) Automation for the sake of relationships(54:33) The "usual suspects" of management—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5f2de1dd-819d-4a9f-bdc4-782276162c45</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67731550/406380787_44100_2_5a9d50a252cda.mp3" length="56746317" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Antonia Scheidel!Antonia is Director of Engineering at Duolingo, where she made the whole career progression, starting as a simple intern 12 years ago. Antonia is an expert at designing good, automated processes for your team. We...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Antonia Scheidel!Antonia is Director of Engineering at Duolingo, where she made the whole career progression, starting as a simple intern 12 years ago. Antonia is an expert at designing good, automated processes for your team. We discuss how to create good automation to avoid people doing glue work, how not to become a bottleneck as a manager, and how to make the team own the process and repair it when needed.(01:25) Introduction(02:02) Antonia's journey into tech(03:34) Antonia's career in Duolingo(06:55) From engineering to management(10:19) Good processing and notes(14:18) Fixing the process and team alignment(18:06) The burden of asking(23:08) Invisible work and visible improvements(27:55) Automation trade-offs(33:14) Responsibilities in estabilished processes(37:24) How to do notifications right(49:09) Automation for the sake of relationships(54:33) The "usual suspects" of management—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3547</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2322e3fc1a7b253c0c729e44eac705b8.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Technical Debt as Crime Scene 🔍 — with Adam Tornhill</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/technical-debt-as-crime-scene-with-adam-tornhill--67550602</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Adam Tornhill! Adam is the author of the popular book Your Code as a Crime Scene, and he's the founder of Code Scene. With Adam, we discussed his unique insights about technical debt and code quality, which come from his study of forensic psychology. We explored how static analysis is not enough to understand code health and why you need to look into version control history to understand hotspots, change distribution and bus factor. And finally, we inevitably talked about AI and how it changes, or maybe does not change, how we should write code.(01:23) Introduction(02:25) Adam's journey into tech(05:58) The crime scene metaphor(08:27) Version control history(10:22) A natural law of software(14:03) Code Red(15:56) Assessing good code health(22:31) Distribution of impact and the bus factor(25:33) Reducing bus factor(29:57) Reassessing knowledge(32:25) The entropy of code bases(34:53) AI in code analysis(39:44) The impact of AI coding(41:58) Preventing technical debt(44:13) The actual developer tool space(46:21) Code data and team ceremonies—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">fe1a9e6d-6ceb-4a50-a751-0984a7197e54</guid><pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67550602/406380541_44100_2_cad85b29cffd1.mp3" length="46591163" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Adam Tornhill! Adam is the author of the popular book Your Code as a Crime Scene, and he's the founder of Code Scene. With Adam, we discussed his unique insights about technical debt and code quality, which come from his study of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Adam Tornhill! Adam is the author of the popular book Your Code as a Crime Scene, and he's the founder of Code Scene. With Adam, we discussed his unique insights about technical debt and code quality, which come from his study of forensic psychology. We explored how static analysis is not enough to understand code health and why you need to look into version control history to understand hotspots, change distribution and bus factor. And finally, we inevitably talked about AI and how it changes, or maybe does not change, how we should write code.(01:23) Introduction(02:25) Adam's journey into tech(05:58) The crime scene metaphor(08:27) Version control history(10:22) A natural law of software(14:03) Code Red(15:56) Assessing good code health(22:31) Distribution of impact and the bus factor(25:33) Reducing bus factor(29:57) Reassessing knowledge(32:25) The entropy of code bases(34:53) AI in code analysis(39:44) The impact of AI coding(41:58) Preventing technical debt(44:13) The actual developer tool space(46:21) Code data and team ceremonies—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2912</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bce1a03fe7f9cd68bfbfd457f3488c0c.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Diversity, AI, and Junior Engineers 🎨 — with Meri Williams</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/diversity-ai-and-junior-engineers-with-meri-williams--67376157</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Meri Williams, who is the CTO of Pleo and the host of LeadDev conferences for more than 10 years. With Meri, we started by talking about diversity, why it is such a controversial topic, why diverse teams make for stronger teams, and what are the mistakes engineering leaders should avoid. Then we took from her experience with Lead Dev to explore what makes for a good talk, and what Meri looks for when she selects the best ones.And finally, we explored how AI is going to change how we develop engineers and grow junior co-workers.(01:19) Introduction(02:04) Meri's journey into tech(07:29) Conferences, meetups and LeadDev(10:14) Recurring issues in engineering leadership(12:21) Why diversity matters(15:04) A proper diverse environment(22:52) How to create a truly memorable talk(26:25) LeadDev and conferences(28:53) Speaking on stage(30:50) Speaking as a benefit for your career(33:59) Junior engineers in the age of AI(39:37) Is AI a turning point?(44:44) Seniors engineers and AI(46:31) Guiding junior engineers—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">98da3160-058d-451f-be96-2b3dfcc33306</guid><pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67376157/405590688_44100_2_793df4a2a7015.mp3" length="49982483" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Meri Williams, who is the CTO of Pleo and the host of LeadDev conferences for more than 10 years. With Meri, we started by talking about diversity, why it is such a controversial topic, why diverse teams make for stronger teams, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Meri Williams, who is the CTO of Pleo and the host of LeadDev conferences for more than 10 years. With Meri, we started by talking about diversity, why it is such a controversial topic, why diverse teams make for stronger teams, and what are the mistakes engineering leaders should avoid. Then we took from her experience with Lead Dev to explore what makes for a good talk, and what Meri looks for when she selects the best ones.And finally, we explored how AI is going to change how we develop engineers and grow junior co-workers.(01:19) Introduction(02:04) Meri's journey into tech(07:29) Conferences, meetups and LeadDev(10:14) Recurring issues in engineering leadership(12:21) Why diversity matters(15:04) A proper diverse environment(22:52) How to create a truly memorable talk(26:25) LeadDev and conferences(28:53) Speaking on stage(30:50) Speaking as a benefit for your career(33:59) Junior engineers in the age of AI(39:37) Is AI a turning point?(44:44) Seniors engineers and AI(46:31) Guiding junior engineers—This episode is brought to you by Augment Code! Augment Code is the only AI engineering platform built for real engineering teams.Learn more at augmentcode.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3124</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c3459ad62ea98b7b3bcf9d28c4c9ac73.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Thinking in Bets for Engineers 🎲— with Annie Duke</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/thinking-in-bets-for-engineers-with-annie-duke--67213622</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Annie Duke, who is a former world-class professional poker player and one of the world's top experts on decision-making.She's a bestseller author and coach of many tech founders and teams.With Annie we talked about her journey from studying decision science to becoming a top poker player and back to decision-making. We explored how to make good decisions under uncertainty, alone and in a team. And we particularly focused on quitting decisions, what maked for a good versus a bad quit and why we are so bad at recognizing those.00:01:31 Introduction00:03:45 From poker to decision-making00:08:30 Sponsor00:10:07 Poker and the definition of "resulting"00:16:42 Feedback loops and decision-making00:21:59 Successful but not hungry00:26:14 A good decision-making process00:35:24 Qualifying the market00:38:17 Team decision-making00:47:46 Quitting00:52:43 Make quitting easier01:08:43 Kill criteria—This episode is brought to you by Unblocked! Unblocked brings all the context about your codebase together, so your team gets expert-level answers, no matter where they’re working.Learn more at getunblocked.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8bd6ac56-5fb3-4f31-bc45-2d89a70e2db3</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 08:23:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67213622/404937953_44100_2_dd446b9899f21.mp3" length="69043094" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Annie Duke, who is a former world-class professional poker player and one of the world's top experts on decision-making.She's a bestseller author and coach of many tech founders and teams.With Annie we talked about her journey from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Annie Duke, who is a former world-class professional poker player and one of the world's top experts on decision-making.She's a bestseller author and coach of many tech founders and teams.With Annie we talked about her journey from studying decision science to becoming a top poker player and back to decision-making. We explored how to make good decisions under uncertainty, alone and in a team. And we particularly focused on quitting decisions, what maked for a good versus a bad quit and why we are so bad at recognizing those.00:01:31 Introduction00:03:45 From poker to decision-making00:08:30 Sponsor00:10:07 Poker and the definition of "resulting"00:16:42 Feedback loops and decision-making00:21:59 Successful but not hungry00:26:14 A good decision-making process00:35:24 Qualifying the market00:38:17 Team decision-making00:47:46 Quitting00:52:43 Make quitting easier01:08:43 Kill criteria—This episode is brought to you by Unblocked! Unblocked brings all the context about your codebase together, so your team gets expert-level answers, no matter where they’re working.Learn more at getunblocked.com!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4316</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5e6653805c1ef0b24a27382b8bf31f41.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Refactoring at Scale Done Right 🏗️ — with Maude Lemaire</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/refactoring-at-scale-done-right-with-maude-lemaire--66941237</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Maude Lemaire, who is a principal engineer at GitHub and author of the book, "Refactoring at Scale."With Maude, we talked about her journey in tech, from Rent the Runway to joining Slack and leading its performance engineering team to joining GitHub as a principal engineer. And then we discussed what it means to do refactoring at scale, how to do it right, how to bring people on board, and what are the biggest mistakes you should avoid.00:01:06 Introduction00:02:05 Maude's journey in tech00:08:23 Sponsor00:09:34 Rent a Runway00:12:56 Joining Slack00:15:54 Approaching GitHub00:22:04 Changing company00:26:00 Onboarding in a big tech00:33:02 From data center to cloud00:38:22 A team for a purpose00:49:07 The biggest mistakes in large scale refactoring00:54:34 One big mistake00:57:58 Testing in production01:03:16 Test production: Big tech vs startup—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d20c327e-1e3e-45f5-8b23-6b50e4cd53f7</guid><pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66941237/402852173_44100_2_3935661ec4098.mp3" length="62639123" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Maude Lemaire, who is a principal engineer at GitHub and author of the book, "Refactoring at Scale."With Maude, we talked about her journey in tech, from Rent the Runway to joining Slack and leading its performance engineering team to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Maude Lemaire, who is a principal engineer at GitHub and author of the book, "Refactoring at Scale."With Maude, we talked about her journey in tech, from Rent the Runway to joining Slack and leading its performance engineering team to joining GitHub as a principal engineer. And then we discussed what it means to do refactoring at scale, how to do it right, how to bring people on board, and what are the biggest mistakes you should avoid.00:01:06 Introduction00:02:05 Maude's journey in tech00:08:23 Sponsor00:09:34 Rent a Runway00:12:56 Joining Slack00:15:54 Approaching GitHub00:22:04 Changing company00:26:00 Onboarding in a big tech00:33:02 From data center to cloud00:38:22 A team for a purpose00:49:07 The biggest mistakes in large scale refactoring00:54:34 One big mistake00:57:58 Testing in production01:03:16 Test production: Big tech vs startup—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3915</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a73dc71d8942ec42160be1bf2420df81.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building AI-Powered Podcast Learning 🎧 — with Kevin Smith</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-ai-powered-podcast-learning-with-kevin-smith--66768603</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Kevin Smith, who is co-founder of Snipd, one of the world's most popular podcast apps.With Kevin, we talked about his journey in tech, starting from quantitative finance and then running an AI team in a high-growth startup up to actually founding one with Snipd. Then we segued into talking about Snipd itself and what are the technical challenges of working with AI models all the time. And finally, we discussed the future of learning, what are Kevin's favorite podcasts, what makes them good, and how AI enables personalized learning at scale.01:26 Introduction01:45 Kevin's journey in tech04:18 AI giant leaps07:38 Sponsor08:50 Kevin's transition to founder16:30 What is Snipd?18:20 On AI models21:25 Snipd technical challenges29:49 How to improve quality in AI output31:30 AI in team management and dev processes34:19 AI coding enhancements38:05 Learning with modern tools42:50 Personalize learning with AI45:51 Kevin's favourite podcasts47:58 What makes a good podcast good?—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bee54447-1062-4b9a-be71-a369b1e76215</guid><pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2025 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66768603/402851921_44100_2_5e5e82fee0f2.mp3" length="48673853" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Kevin Smith, who is co-founder of Snipd, one of the world's most popular podcast apps.With Kevin, we talked about his journey in tech, starting from quantitative finance and then running an AI team in a high-growth startup up to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Kevin Smith, who is co-founder of Snipd, one of the world's most popular podcast apps.With Kevin, we talked about his journey in tech, starting from quantitative finance and then running an AI team in a high-growth startup up to actually founding one with Snipd. Then we segued into talking about Snipd itself and what are the technical challenges of working with AI models all the time. And finally, we discussed the future of learning, what are Kevin's favorite podcasts, what makes them good, and how AI enables personalized learning at scale.01:26 Introduction01:45 Kevin's journey in tech04:18 AI giant leaps07:38 Sponsor08:50 Kevin's transition to founder16:30 What is Snipd?18:20 On AI models21:25 Snipd technical challenges29:49 How to improve quality in AI output31:30 AI in team management and dev processes34:19 AI coding enhancements38:05 Learning with modern tools42:50 Personalize learning with AI45:51 Kevin's favourite podcasts47:58 What makes a good podcast good?—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3043</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9f9aaa22bf0cb458f186539bc17443ed.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Future of Dev Tools 🔧 — with Dennis Pilarinos</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-future-of-dev-tools-with-dennis-pilarinos--66543178</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dennis Pilarinos, who is founder and CEO of Unblocked. With Dennis, we talked about his journey in tech, which is just incredible, starting from director roles at Microsoft and Amazon, then founding BuddyBuild and later selling it to Apple, and eventually to these days where he founded Unblocked. And later we talked about Unblocked itself, which is one of the few developer AI tools that is specifically not about coding.So we talked about what problem it solves and the hardest tech challenges that the team has to work with.And finally, we discussed the future of DevTools, because Dennis has founded not one, but two companies about it. And this is a time of big transformation, with MCP, AI agents and more.01:48 Introduction02:33 Dennis' journey in tech06:11 Sponsor07:48 Adapting big tech knowledge15:31 Adding context to AI15:29 Managing humans and chaos25:03 AI and hallucination issue27:14 The tipping point of evolution28:33 The future of developer workflow34:25 Increase documentation to increase context33:43 AI: a future without layers36:53 Setting up a new dev team—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ebf9ae5d-0bb1-447e-a92e-8427fb880cf5</guid><pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66543178/402043134_44100_2_ca0ced06f32e2.mp3" length="38771146" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Dennis Pilarinos, who is founder and CEO of Unblocked. With Dennis, we talked about his journey in tech, which is just incredible, starting from director roles at Microsoft and Amazon, then founding BuddyBuild and later selling it to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dennis Pilarinos, who is founder and CEO of Unblocked. With Dennis, we talked about his journey in tech, which is just incredible, starting from director roles at Microsoft and Amazon, then founding BuddyBuild and later selling it to Apple, and eventually to these days where he founded Unblocked. And later we talked about Unblocked itself, which is one of the few developer AI tools that is specifically not about coding.So we talked about what problem it solves and the hardest tech challenges that the team has to work with.And finally, we discussed the future of DevTools, because Dennis has founded not one, but two companies about it. And this is a time of big transformation, with MCP, AI agents and more.01:48 Introduction02:33 Dennis' journey in tech06:11 Sponsor07:48 Adapting big tech knowledge15:31 Adding context to AI15:29 Managing humans and chaos25:03 AI and hallucination issue27:14 The tipping point of evolution28:33 The future of developer workflow34:25 Increase documentation to increase context33:43 AI: a future without layers36:53 Setting up a new dev team—This episode is brought to you by Swarmia! The engineering intelligence platform that serves some of the best software companies in the world.You can get 20% off by booking a demo at swarmia.com/refactoring!—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2424</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/59b0888d1fc07e630ef0b95b06c25f90.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Manage Humans 🎽 — with Rands</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-manage-humans-with-rands--66336279</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is Senior Director of Engineering at Apple and writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.With Rands, we discuss his journey into writing and the impact it had on his personal and professional growth. We reflected on his leadership style and the complexities of modern engineering management.01:07 Introduction02:49 Rands first steps in writing06:06 Sponsor07:46 Does writing help in managing?13:05 Michael and Rands15:29 Managing humans and chaos19:56 Mentoring fresh managers21:31 Rands' managing style28:27 Feedbacks30:25 Changes in engineering management33:43 AI: a future without layers40:10 Testing a thesis42:40 AI Interation = People Interation45:07 What is not going to change48:38 The 10%—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">412acb5e-0813-48ae-bc67-5e7e59331627</guid><pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2025 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66336279/401142826_44100_2_f533f099f9e6.mp3" length="50770754" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is Senior Director of Engineering at Apple and writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.With Rands, we...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Michael Lopp, better known as Rands, who is Senior Director of Engineering at Apple and writer of several popular books about engineering management, including "Managing Humans", which is a personal favorite of mine.With Rands, we discuss his journey into writing and the impact it had on his personal and professional growth. We reflected on his leadership style and the complexities of modern engineering management.01:07 Introduction02:49 Rands first steps in writing06:06 Sponsor07:46 Does writing help in managing?13:05 Michael and Rands15:29 Managing humans and chaos19:56 Mentoring fresh managers21:31 Rands' managing style28:27 Feedbacks30:25 Changes in engineering management33:43 AI: a future without layers40:10 Testing a thesis42:40 AI Interation = People Interation45:07 What is not going to change48:38 The 10%—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3174</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/29162269b9c5e8ddbb211da008291ec8.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Vercel Journey 🔺 — with Guillermo Rauch</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-vercel-journey-with-guillermo-rauch--66311121</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Guillermo Rauch, who is CEO and founder of Vercel.With Guillermo, we talked about his journey in tech, from a small-town in Argentina, to successful open-source developer, to CEO of a billion-dollar company. Then we covered the unique Vercel model, which combines open-source and commercial work. And finally, we discussed the future of AI, engineers, open-source and software engineering at large.01:29 Introduction02:04 What is Vercel?04:40 Vercel's "secret sauce"06:46 Guillermo's journey in tech10:31 Vercel vs Complexity12:07 Helping solo engineers and great teams17:38 The importance of JavaScript20:23 TypeScript and JavaScript22:11 Satisfying both open source and market landscape28:18 For the open-source engineers32:35 The last frameworks36:55 AI current limitations38:59 The best framework for AI43:48 100 milliseconds48:34 Does Guillermo still code?52:10 The founder mode53:59 AI will make us full stack—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7df87838-236a-48f4-9f76-d2e67b2758df</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 09:51:14 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66311121/400263574_44100_2_72aaf5ecab29a.mp3" length="54605948" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Guillermo Rauch, who is CEO and founder of Vercel.With Guillermo, we talked about his journey in tech, from a small-town in Argentina, to successful open-source developer, to CEO of a billion-dollar company. Then we covered the unique...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Guillermo Rauch, who is CEO and founder of Vercel.With Guillermo, we talked about his journey in tech, from a small-town in Argentina, to successful open-source developer, to CEO of a billion-dollar company. Then we covered the unique Vercel model, which combines open-source and commercial work. And finally, we discussed the future of AI, engineers, open-source and software engineering at large.01:29 Introduction02:04 What is Vercel?04:40 Vercel's "secret sauce"06:46 Guillermo's journey in tech10:31 Vercel vs Complexity12:07 Helping solo engineers and great teams17:38 The importance of JavaScript20:23 TypeScript and JavaScript22:11 Satisfying both open source and market landscape28:18 For the open-source engineers32:35 The last frameworks36:55 AI current limitations38:59 The best framework for AI43:48 100 milliseconds48:34 Does Guillermo still code?52:10 The founder mode53:59 AI will make us full stack—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3413</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ad40dd68e790211de8be7edaa86b4f1a.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Integrate AI in the Dev Process 🪄 — with Ori Keren</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-integrate-ai-in-the-dev-process-with-ori-keren--66084280</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Ori Keren, who is CEO and co-founder of LinearB and has more than 25 years of experience in the industry, especially in developer experience and productivity.<br />With Ori, we talked about how AI is infiltrating all the stages of the development process, from coding to testing to code reviews. We discussed  how AI is already restructuring teams and how engineering leaders can drive adoption by combining culture, small wins and full moon shots.<br />01:07 Introduction<br />01:59 Development productivity in 2025<br />08:29 Code creation process and AI<br />10:46 Coding and bottlenecks<br />15:05 Cognitive unload using AI<br />16:48 The journey of AI adoption<br />21:50 AI native environment<br />24:57 How teams are changing<br />28:35 More AI = More development<br />30:40 The skeptcisim about coding with AI<br />33:50 Removing the toil from coding<br />35:31 AI help outside coding<br />41:50 How to integrate AI in a company<br />44:38 Go with the (AI) flow<br />45:34 Education in prompting<br />—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• Newsletter: <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://refactoring.fm</a><br />• Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw</a><br />• Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305</a><br />—<br />For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3f040beb-61b9-493c-a3ae-759d9ea8ef7e</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 11:19:50 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66084280/399349966_44100_2_835c1614015ef.mp3" length="45464763" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Ori Keren, who is CEO and co-founder of LinearB and has more than 25 years of experience in the industry, especially in developer experience and productivity.
With Ori, we talked about how AI is infiltrating all the stages of the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Ori Keren, who is CEO and co-founder of LinearB and has more than 25 years of experience in the industry, especially in developer experience and productivity.<br />With Ori, we talked about how AI is infiltrating all the stages of the development process, from coding to testing to code reviews. We discussed  how AI is already restructuring teams and how engineering leaders can drive adoption by combining culture, small wins and full moon shots.<br />01:07 Introduction<br />01:59 Development productivity in 2025<br />08:29 Code creation process and AI<br />10:46 Coding and bottlenecks<br />15:05 Cognitive unload using AI<br />16:48 The journey of AI adoption<br />21:50 AI native environment<br />24:57 How teams are changing<br />28:35 More AI = More development<br />30:40 The skeptcisim about coding with AI<br />33:50 Removing the toil from coding<br />35:31 AI help outside coding<br />41:50 How to integrate AI in a company<br />44:38 Go with the (AI) flow<br />45:34 Education in prompting<br />—<br />You can also find this at:<br />• Newsletter: <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://refactoring.fm</a><br />• Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw</a><br />• Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305</a><br />—<br />For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2842</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2cfa1658f87a043ae7a2204207ad66ce.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Measuring and Improving Developer Experience 📊 — with Abi Noda</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/measuring-and-improving-developer-experience-with-abi-noda--65620051</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the book wrong. And then we continued to present days and how research focuses on driving great developer experience. And finally, we couldn't avoid talking about AI and why it seems to be a game changer for entrepreneurs, but not so much for teams yet.01:23 Introduction02:45 Abi's journey in tech08:19 The four key metrics10:41 Metrics' reliability13:41 Diagnostic metrics16:06 A metric analogy18:23 Find productivy metrics drive22:03 What makes a developer experience good?29:44 The importance of comparison31:53 Common issues in developer experience34:55 Are meetings bad?36:16 AI in development process—This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">099709e0-85fe-4895-8022-f206066399c3</guid><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2025 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65620051/398562973_44100_2_20aa720c08b54.mp3" length="41255078" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Abi Noda, the CEO and founder of DX, one of the leading engineering intelligence platforms.With Abi, we talked about measuring developer experience. We started with the early days of Accelerate and why we feel like most people got the book wrong. And then we continued to present days and how research focuses on driving great developer experience. And finally, we couldn't avoid talking about AI and why it seems to be a game changer for entrepreneurs, but not so much for teams yet.01:23 Introduction02:45 Abi's journey in tech08:19 The four key metrics10:41 Metrics' reliability13:41 Diagnostic metrics16:06 A metric analogy18:23 Find productivy metrics drive22:03 What makes a developer experience good?29:44 The importance of comparison31:53 Common issues in developer experience34:55 Are meetings bad?36:16 AI in development process—This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io—You can also find this at:• 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm• 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw• 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2579</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ab62f37a3cf300545894f9e92bf28d69.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Open-source, complexity &amp; AI coding 🔧 — with Salvatore "Antirez" Sanfilippo</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/open-source-complexity-ai-coding-with-salvatore-antirez-sanfilippo--65613381</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Salvatore Sanfilippo, also known as Antirez!Salvatore is the creator of Redis, an open source data store used by hundreds of thousands of developers across the world. And he's also a writer. He published the popular sci-fi novel called Wohpe, which anticipated a lot of what is happening today with AI.With Salvatore, we talked about open source — what makes a project successful and how to make it successful for its maintainers. Then we discussed how Salvatore uses AI for extremely complex coding, which makes him 5x faster than without AI. And finally, I asked him about his writing work and what is the experience of writing a novel versus a software project.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=175s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">02:55</a> Introduction<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=407s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">06:47</a> Salvatore's life priorities<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=760s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">12:40</a> Develop an open source project in 2025 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1094s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">18:14</a> Being a generalist with AI support<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1165s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">19:25</a> Making an open source project sustainable<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1434s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">23:54</a> Complexity of modern 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noopener">  / wohpe  </a>—You can also find this at:<ul><li>📬 Newsletter: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWVEWTZSNldPMkJQR0lMYkhIa19nQ3RLVS12QXxBQ3Jtc0trd2FtRDRtY3hMME5KaGtlR095ZkpUYVVPZXpIbENsUjZWbkE1RWdJMV9SeFFVTGQ1aS1VZEtXM2otSml2WWFyQWtDXzl6MWlSYUxVWTVOLXNzcXJoT013blp4Sm4xZjBnTEltWEE3SWxsWVhSVW5hQQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Frefactoring.fm%2F&amp;v=PlyzvM--xbQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://refactoring.fm</a></li><li>🎧 Spotify: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1NOWkZRMWxBQUNja0xlQUZTV1ZjLVVIY0t1Z3xBQ3Jtc0tuaDRmYVFQemIzbFJyaHZNNlU1dGxhQXpHNUNqcEo3bWo2NnFOYy1yaXlZNmFsZm5lb0dPa0JvM2k3UFVrUndua19TbjYxZEQwQlBHQ3ZmMzJ5cXFCalZPbUs4TC02N2hMX09LcHJWWDNfS3VEcDNhWQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw&amp;v=PlyzvM--xbQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9d...</a></li><li>📱 Apple: <a 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the creator of Redis, an open source data store used by hundreds of thousands of developers across the world. And he's also a writer. He published the popular sci-fi novel...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Salvatore Sanfilippo, also known as Antirez!Salvatore is the creator of Redis, an open source data store used by hundreds of thousands of developers across the world. And he's also a writer. He published the popular sci-fi novel called Wohpe, which anticipated a lot of what is happening today with AI.With Salvatore, we talked about open source — what makes a project successful and how to make it successful for its maintainers. Then we discussed how Salvatore uses AI for extremely complex coding, which makes him 5x faster than without AI. And finally, I asked him about his writing work and what is the experience of writing a novel versus a software project.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=175s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">02:55</a> Introduction<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=407s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">06:47</a> Salvatore's life priorities<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=760s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">12:40</a> Develop an open source project in 2025 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1094s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">18:14</a> Being a generalist with AI support<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1165s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">19:25</a> Making an open source project sustainable<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=1434s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">23:54</a> Complexity of modern 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target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">47:06</a> Writing tests in the AI era of development<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=3049s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">50:49</a> Whope, Salvatore's sci-fi novel<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlyzvM--xbQ&amp;t=3208s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">53:28</a> Writing a novel and writing code—This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbThKaG91X21NdGpUMFI1Ny1JR2g4TU0zOC1kUXxBQ3Jtc0trLVlWeFJVZW5DNmRDaE1ha3ZYRlJ1LXhCQXlfMFdqZFpLNFpja29XaUVnRDhkSUFQeVpzT2piM3JiNUJfVzdKSDRwSWhfVDJIcy0xMWl5ZnVrNGx2N0NZd1Z6bExrV0tBNUxraDhUQmJNTjZwdmUwbw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fworkos.com%2F&amp;v=PlyzvM--xbQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://workos.com</a>—Some show notes:• Salvatore's website: <a 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Chippindale</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-coach-ctos-with-joel-chippindale--65008792</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Joel Chippindale!Joel is a full-time CTO Coach and one of the coaches-in-residence in the Refactoring community, where he runs monthly mastermind sessions and other community events.So with Joel, we dived into what coaching is, the difference with mentoring, one-on-one versus group coaching, and what are the top challenges that CTO faces today, based on the work that Joel does with his coaches.02:34 Introduction03:40 Joel's journey in tech05:21 Finding a definition of coaching07:25 Mentoring and coaching roles10:22 One-to-on and group coaching12:53 The "hows" of coaching15:12 Is coaching a widespread practice?18:35 Top CTOs challenges21:43 Right support for right challenges26:08 Advocating for technical work31:53 Commonalities and uniquenesses in CTOs challenges34:20 The platonic ideal of CTO36:49 Choosing what to focus on39:48 How to delegate properly—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">5e661419-8e16-4a5e-8aa7-ade22a7ba8de</guid><pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65008792/396914687_44100_2_5f80408ee8d44.mp3" length="42863385" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Joel Chippindale!Joel is a full-time CTO Coach and one of the coaches-in-residence in the Refactoring community, where he runs monthly mastermind sessions and other community events.So with Joel, we dived into what coaching is, the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Joel Chippindale!Joel is a full-time CTO Coach and one of the coaches-in-residence in the Refactoring community, where he runs monthly mastermind sessions and other community events.So with Joel, we dived into what coaching is, the difference with mentoring, one-on-one versus group coaching, and what are the top challenges that CTO faces today, based on the work that Joel does with his coaches.02:34 Introduction03:40 Joel's journey in tech05:21 Finding a definition of coaching07:25 Mentoring and coaching roles10:22 One-to-on and group coaching12:53 The "hows" of coaching15:12 Is coaching a widespread practice?18:35 Top CTOs challenges21:43 Right support for right challenges26:08 Advocating for technical work31:53 Commonalities and uniquenesses in CTOs challenges34:20 The platonic ideal of CTO36:49 Choosing what to focus on39:48 How to delegate properly—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2679</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4c1ec45e6c26822d0d2f03e9ce32af31.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Future of Creative Organizations ✏️ — with Dan Shipper</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-future-of-creative-organizations-with-dan-shipper--64732142</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dan Shipper!Dan is the CEO and founder of Every, which is one of the world's most popular publications, writing about AI and our relationship with technology. And Dan is one of my heroes. His newsletter was the first I ever paid for on Substack, and single-handedly inspired me to start Refactoring. But he doesn't know. I will tell him during the interview and you will see what he says. So with Dan, we'll talk about the boundaries blurring between product development and content creation, the role of generalists, entrepreneurs, and how his team builds software with AI. And spoiler alert, AI writes 90% of their code.03:08 Introduction06:42 Every and Dan's journey in tech12:56 From writer to CEO16:20 The importance of delegating18:01 What you want vs what people want21:06 Stick to yourself24:38 Playing the long game27:02 AI and content creation31:05 Approaching the use of AI36:29 Finding new workflows with AI39:03 More an AI generated code40:35 A new skillset for engineers42:44 More on the new engineering role44:45 The next AI assisted leaps—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">18c440f2-e2b2-489b-aadd-340b3905f0a2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64732142/396078751_44100_2_676bc27c76d47.mp3" length="46521781" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Dan Shipper!Dan is the CEO and founder of Every, which is one of the world's most popular publications, writing about AI and our relationship with technology. And Dan is one of my heroes. His newsletter was the first I ever paid for...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dan Shipper!Dan is the CEO and founder of Every, which is one of the world's most popular publications, writing about AI and our relationship with technology. And Dan is one of my heroes. His newsletter was the first I ever paid for on Substack, and single-handedly inspired me to start Refactoring. But he doesn't know. I will tell him during the interview and you will see what he says. So with Dan, we'll talk about the boundaries blurring between product development and content creation, the role of generalists, entrepreneurs, and how his team builds software with AI. And spoiler alert, AI writes 90% of their code.03:08 Introduction06:42 Every and Dan's journey in tech12:56 From writer to CEO16:20 The importance of delegating18:01 What you want vs what people want21:06 Stick to yourself24:38 Playing the long game27:02 AI and content creation31:05 Approaching the use of AI36:29 Finding new workflows with AI39:03 More an AI generated code40:35 A new skillset for engineers42:44 More on the new engineering role44:45 The next AI assisted leaps—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2908</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b765ec9cda948aa2655af1d49c1ce7b8.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Combining AI and Human Work 🤖 — with Marco Trombetti</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/combining-ai-and-human-work-with-marco-trombetti--64545321</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Marco Trombetti!Marco is the CEO and founder of Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering translations for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more.Translated is also an AI pioneer. It has developed its own models for more than 20 years and has recently released the most advanced translation LLM in the world.With Marco, we talked about the future of AI, combining AI and human work and the role of regulation. This is also the first interview we ever did in person. But as you will see and hear, I was recovering from a bad cough and had a bit of a low voice, hope you don't mind.(00:03:26) Introduction(00:05:45) The history of Translated(00:09:51) The use of transformers(00:12:47) Lara: the most advanced translation AI(00:17:51) The next step in AI models(00:24:01) The "Lara gap"(00:28:50) The real cost of training Lara(00:32:39) AI impact on human work in translation(00:41:16) Applying the Translated model in other fields(00:45:21) Concerns in AI applications(00:53:51) More on AI regulation(00:56:15) The state of AI startups(00:59:25) Understanding the AI game(01:03:31) AI and regular jobs—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ee9ef538-fde3-48ef-9a84-4eaea7bc5d57</guid><pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64545321/395445866_44100_2_f2be03778f8e6.mp3" length="65021491" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Marco Trombetti!Marco is the CEO and founder of Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering translations for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more.Translated is also an AI pioneer. It has...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Marco Trombetti!Marco is the CEO and founder of Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering translations for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more.Translated is also an AI pioneer. It has developed its own models for more than 20 years and has recently released the most advanced translation LLM in the world.With Marco, we talked about the future of AI, combining AI and human work and the role of regulation. This is also the first interview we ever did in person. But as you will see and hear, I was recovering from a bad cough and had a bit of a low voice, hope you don't mind.(00:03:26) Introduction(00:05:45) The history of Translated(00:09:51) The use of transformers(00:12:47) Lara: the most advanced translation AI(00:17:51) The next step in AI models(00:24:01) The "Lara gap"(00:28:50) The real cost of training Lara(00:32:39) AI impact on human work in translation(00:41:16) Applying the Translated model in other fields(00:45:21) Concerns in AI applications(00:53:51) More on AI regulation(00:56:15) The state of AI startups(00:59:25) Understanding the AI game(01:03:31) AI and regular jobs—This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com—You can also find this at:- 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm- 📱 YouTube: https://youtu.be/HgKAg1rtQoE—For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4064</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bd52c3eb5944910c97a252d18f710368.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>User-experience, Local-first apps and dev tools 🔧 — with Adam Wiggins</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/user-experience-local-first-apps-and-dev-tools-with-adam-wiggins--64241472</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Adam Wiggins!  Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku.  With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we explored the future of developer tools.  (02:49) Introduction (04:01) Adam's journey in tech (06:15) The rise of developer experience (10:03) The constant drive of improving UX (12:07) Dia &amp; The Browser Company (14:49) Using AI to improve UX (20:38) Unlocking potentials through UX (25:18) Local-first software (32:34) Data ownership (34:31) Web development and complexity (38:03) AI and the future of development (40:25) The iteration loop  — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com  — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">49841e9d-17f7-4219-8c20-df66d49fa299</guid><pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64241472/394326474_44100_2_c873d69a536ec.mp3" length="46671829" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Adam Wiggins!  Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku.  With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Adam Wiggins!  Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku.  With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we explored the future of developer tools.  (02:49) Introduction (04:01) Adam's journey in tech (06:15) The rise of developer experience (10:03) The constant drive of improving UX (12:07) Dia &amp; The Browser Company (14:49) Using AI to improve UX (20:38) Unlocking potentials through UX (25:18) Local-first software (32:34) Data ownership (34:31) Web development and complexity (38:03) AI and the future of development (40:25) The iteration loop  — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com  — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2917</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/34c072f02686a2e4dcae9763caf62f36.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Growing the development forest 🌲 — with Martin Fowler</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/growing-the-development-forest-with-martin-fowler--63868223</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Martin Fowler!  Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast and this newsletter.   With Martin, we talked about the impact of AI on software development, from the development process to how human learning and understanding changes up to the future of software engineering jobs.  Then we explored the technical debt metaphor, why it has been so successful, and Martin's own advice on dealing with it. And finally, we talked about the state of Agile, the resistance that still exists today towards many Agile practices and how to measure engineering effectiveness.   (03:29) Introduction (05:20) Development cycle with AI (08:36) Less control and reduced learning (13:11) Splitting task between Human and AI (14:48) The skills shift (20:17) Betting on new technologies (27:22) Martin's Refactoring and technical debt (29:24) Accumulating "cruft" (33:14) Dealing with "cruft" (37:24) The financial value of refactoring (42:04) Measuring performances (46:19) Why the "forest" didn't spread (56:11) Make the forest appealing  — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">373c5772-8a1b-40d3-b3dc-1875c724cbea</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2025 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63868223/393573073_44100_2_e9bfdc73a7201.mp3" length="57739806" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Martin Fowler!  Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Martin Fowler!  Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast and this newsletter.   With Martin, we talked about the impact of AI on software development, from the development process to how human learning and understanding changes up to the future of software engineering jobs.  Then we explored the technical debt metaphor, why it has been so successful, and Martin's own advice on dealing with it. And finally, we talked about the state of Agile, the resistance that still exists today towards many Agile practices and how to measure engineering effectiveness.   (03:29) Introduction (05:20) Development cycle with AI (08:36) Less control and reduced learning (13:11) Splitting task between Human and AI (14:48) The skills shift (20:17) Betting on new technologies (27:22) Martin's Refactoring and technical debt (29:24) Accumulating "cruft" (33:14) Dealing with "cruft" (37:24) The financial value of refactoring (42:04) Measuring performances (46:19) Why the "forest" didn't spread (56:11) Make the forest appealing  — This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3609</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/de360bbb8b7a03a5ab885b66e04f95fb.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Profitable Engineering 🛠️ — with Aviv Ben Josef</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/profitable-engineering-with-aviv-ben-josef--63183123</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Aviv Ben Josef!  Aviv has more than 20 years of experience in tech. He is an executive coach working with hundreds of engineering teams and leaders. With Aviv, we talked about profitable engineering, what makes engineering valuable, why impact is hard to measure,and what are the cultural and organizational traits that make engineering teams successful.   (01:43) Introduction (02:20) Aviv’s journey into tech (05:57) From tech to consulting (08:12) Less coding, more coaching (11:42) Profitable engineering (15:11) What unprofitable engineering looks like (17:33) Other engineering dysfunctions (20:49) Why is engineering still perceived as a cost (27:23) Switch your approach (32:48) Intentional learning (38:29) Meta retros: connecting engineers and product (45:31) Set your goals (48:27) Product engineering in today’s framework (53:28) The AI influence on teamwork  — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io —  You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d254b19f-ecf0-4602-bbf3-f35c85db2ff4</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63183123/390887763_44100_2_69e159d9315de.mp3" length="56531068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Aviv Ben Josef!  Aviv has more than 20 years of experience in tech. He is an executive coach working with hundreds of engineering teams and leaders. With Aviv, we talked about profitable engineering, what makes engineering valuable,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Aviv Ben Josef!  Aviv has more than 20 years of experience in tech. He is an executive coach working with hundreds of engineering teams and leaders. With Aviv, we talked about profitable engineering, what makes engineering valuable, why impact is hard to measure,and what are the cultural and organizational traits that make engineering teams successful.   (01:43) Introduction (02:20) Aviv’s journey into tech (05:57) From tech to consulting (08:12) Less coding, more coaching (11:42) Profitable engineering (15:11) What unprofitable engineering looks like (17:33) Other engineering dysfunctions (20:49) Why is engineering still perceived as a cost (27:23) Switch your approach (32:48) Intentional learning (38:29) Meta retros: connecting engineers and product (45:31) Set your goals (48:27) Product engineering in today’s framework (53:28) The AI influence on teamwork  — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io —  You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3534</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4c14b663dee488cad70c903fafc694a1.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Evolution of Engineering Management 👑 — with Pat Kua</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-evolution-of-engineering-management-with-pat-kua--62661391</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Pat Kua!  Pat is a professional engineering and leadership coach with more than 20 years of experience in tech. He was CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He is an accomplished speaker and writes an awesome newsletter for tech leaders called Level Up.  With Pat, we talked about his journey in tech, from Australia to London to Berlin. We talked about the future of engineering management and technical leadership and the ever controversial founder mode.   Here is what we talked about:  (02:17) Introduction  (03:05) Pat's journey in tech (12:17) Engineering management evolution (18:27) Balancing people and tech management (21:55) The paybacks of a good management (25:25) System thinking in people's management (28:39) Finding the balance in hybrid roles (31:52) The foundation skill (37:42) About Paul Graham's essay (45:22) The maker vs multiplier framework (48:15) The evolution of practices in tech   — This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://sleuth.io" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://sleuth.io</a> — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://refactoring.fm</a> - 🎧 Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw</a> - 📱 Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305</a>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9cca4d26-f4fc-4901-be1a-ba23ecc0b425</guid><pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62661391/389302288_44100_2_9f1102945ca3.mp3" length="51072103" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Pat Kua!  Pat is a professional engineering and leadership coach with more than 20 years of experience in tech. He was CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He is an accomplished speaker and writes an awesome newsletter...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Pat Kua!  Pat is a professional engineering and leadership coach with more than 20 years of experience in tech. He was CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He is an accomplished speaker and writes an awesome newsletter for tech leaders called Level Up.  With Pat, we talked about his journey in tech, from Australia to London to Berlin. We talked about the future of engineering management and technical leadership and the ever controversial founder mode.   Here is what we talked about:  (02:17) Introduction  (03:05) Pat's journey in tech (12:17) Engineering management evolution (18:27) Balancing people and tech management (21:55) The paybacks of a good management (25:25) System thinking in people's management (28:39) Finding the balance in hybrid roles (31:52) The foundation skill (37:42) About Paul Graham's essay (45:22) The maker vs multiplier framework (48:15) The evolution of practices in tech   — This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://sleuth.io" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://sleuth.io</a> — You can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://refactoring.fm</a> - 🎧 Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw</a> - 📱 Apple: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305</a>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3192</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/d5a31ce98df6d00242a133226ee82bb8.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Career frameworks for Engineers and Managers 🪜 — with Francesco Dominidiato</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/career-frameworks-for-engineers-and-managers-with-francesco-dominidiato--62578879</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Francesco Dominidiato!  <br /> Francesco Dominidiato is CTO at Moneyfarm, one of the largest wealth management companies in Europe, and former CTO at high-growth startups like Casavo and Docebo. During his career he scaled organizations from zero to hundreds of employees, and has incredible experience at all levels: from leading small teams to NASDAQ-listed companies. <br /> With Francesco, we talked about career frameworks, how to create a path that creates opportunities for both individual contributors and managers, how to address career development issues, organizational debt and more. <br /> Here is what we talked about: <br /> (02:09) Introduction  (03:07) Francesco's journey in tech (06:57) Today's industry direction (18:17) A path for all careers (23:36) Salary range &amp; defining roles (34:24) The cost of organizational debt (41:10) Evolving the career framework (53:35) Scaling the ladders (57:02) Tricky roles (01:04:21) The path of engineering career <br /> — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <br /> - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 <br /> — <br /> For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">067e763c-1b03-429a-b37d-342bb61e79c7</guid><pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62578879/388974742_44100_2_47cd40ea1517f.mp3" length="66516113" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Francesco Dominidiato!  
 Francesco Dominidiato is CTO at Moneyfarm, one of the largest wealth management companies in Europe, and former CTO at high-growth startups like Casavo and Docebo. During his career he scaled organizations...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Francesco Dominidiato!  <br /> Francesco Dominidiato is CTO at Moneyfarm, one of the largest wealth management companies in Europe, and former CTO at high-growth startups like Casavo and Docebo. During his career he scaled organizations from zero to hundreds of employees, and has incredible experience at all levels: from leading small teams to NASDAQ-listed companies. <br /> With Francesco, we talked about career frameworks, how to create a path that creates opportunities for both individual contributors and managers, how to address career development issues, organizational debt and more. <br /> Here is what we talked about: <br /> (02:09) Introduction  (03:07) Francesco's journey in tech (06:57) Today's industry direction (18:17) A path for all careers (23:36) Salary range &amp; defining roles (34:24) The cost of organizational debt (41:10) Evolving the career framework (53:35) Scaling the ladders (57:02) Tricky roles (01:04:21) The path of engineering career <br /> — This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <br /> - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 <br /> — <br /> For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4158</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a4197071df65068f82e5fb33a3fd0cc0.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Technical Storytelling at Google ✏️ — with Stephanie Wong</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/technical-storytelling-at-google-with-stephanie-wong--62409170</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Stephanie Wong!   Stephanie is the Head of Technical Marketing at Google Cloud, where she blends storytelling and technology to inspire developers and build customer growth. She’s an award-winning host, global keynote speaker, and creator of viral tech content.  With Stephanie, we talked about her journey from sales to content creation to product management and generative AI. We talked about technical storytelling, how to craft great stories around technical products. And finally we discussed product management for generative AI and the challenges of driving adoption for AI products.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:58) Introduction  (02:52) Stephanie's journey into tech  (07:31) Pioneering content creation for tech (10:05) Learning through experience (13:17) How to tell a tech story  (16:47) Branding and content creation (23:12) How to improve your storytelling (28:28) Finding the way to grow (34:11) "Get the ball rolling!"  (41:40) Content creation and product management (44:20) AI's role in today's tech <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d0fbadb5-da9a-42b7-97e7-11489a40c06f</guid><pubDate>Fri, 18 Oct 2024 07:32:26 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62409170/388283124_44100_2_dc3f5c1c54ef.mp3" length="50206928" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Stephanie Wong!   Stephanie is the Head of Technical Marketing at Google Cloud, where she blends storytelling and technology to inspire developers and build customer growth. She’s an award-winning host, global keynote speaker, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Stephanie Wong!   Stephanie is the Head of Technical Marketing at Google Cloud, where she blends storytelling and technology to inspire developers and build customer growth. She’s an award-winning host, global keynote speaker, and creator of viral tech content.  With Stephanie, we talked about her journey from sales to content creation to product management and generative AI. We talked about technical storytelling, how to craft great stories around technical products. And finally we discussed product management for generative AI and the challenges of driving adoption for AI products.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:58) Introduction  (02:52) Stephanie's journey into tech  (07:31) Pioneering content creation for tech (10:05) Learning through experience (13:17) How to tell a tech story  (16:47) Branding and content creation (23:12) How to improve your storytelling (28:28) Finding the way to grow (34:11) "Get the ball rolling!"  (41:40) Content creation and product management (44:20) AI's role in today's tech <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3138</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e11d541edbf5fa80e8e45060fa6e7644.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Communication Engineering 💬 — with Pramoda Vyasarao</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/communication-engineering-with-pramoda-vyasarao--62220534</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Pramoda Vyasarao!   Pramoda is a leadership and communication coach, he has 20+ years of experience in big tech, wrote the book “Beyond Your Limits”, and runs a course called Communication Engineering  With Pramoda, we will talk about what good communication looks like, especially for engineers and managers, how it impacted his career and the career of the leaders he helps.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:05) Introduction (02:51) The Toastmasters Club (07:12) Engineering Communication issues (10:18) Communication through Pramoda's career (13:28) The TALL framework (19:11) Evaluation vs Information (20:44) The TALL framework: Asking (34:19) The GROW model (36:18) The TALL framework: Listening (38:05) The Path to action (46:04) From feelings to facts (50:38) The TALL framework: Leadership (53:51) Get a coach! (55:28) Mentoring vs Coaching (58:39) Beyond your Limits: a look on Pramoda's work  Learn more about Pramoda's work: <ul><li>Communication Engineering course: <a href="https://www.changesmith.me/communication" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.changesmith.me/communication</a></li><li>Beyond Your Limits book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Your-Limits-Achieving-Happiness-ebook/dp/B0D2YKZWZX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon</a></li></ul> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">55d5cc87-3dcf-4704-896f-817dc3dea47f</guid><pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62220534/387316787_44100_2_ee2c20598fe7b.mp3" length="58716577" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Pramoda Vyasarao!   Pramoda is a leadership and communication coach, he has 20+ years of experience in big tech, wrote the book “Beyond Your Limits”, and runs a course called Communication Engineering  With Pramoda, we will talk about...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Pramoda Vyasarao!   Pramoda is a leadership and communication coach, he has 20+ years of experience in big tech, wrote the book “Beyond Your Limits”, and runs a course called Communication Engineering  With Pramoda, we will talk about what good communication looks like, especially for engineers and managers, how it impacted his career and the career of the leaders he helps.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:05) Introduction (02:51) The Toastmasters Club (07:12) Engineering Communication issues (10:18) Communication through Pramoda's career (13:28) The TALL framework (19:11) Evaluation vs Information (20:44) The TALL framework: Asking (34:19) The GROW model (36:18) The TALL framework: Listening (38:05) The Path to action (46:04) From feelings to facts (50:38) The TALL framework: Leadership (53:51) Get a coach! (55:28) Mentoring vs Coaching (58:39) Beyond your Limits: a look on Pramoda's work  Learn more about Pramoda's work: <ul><li>Communication Engineering course: <a href="https://www.changesmith.me/communication" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.changesmith.me/communication</a></li><li>Beyond Your Limits book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Your-Limits-Achieving-Happiness-ebook/dp/B0D2YKZWZX" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amazon</a></li></ul> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3670</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48d790c2a9b39274bd28918a54958c8e.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Founder Mode &amp; The Manager’s Path 👑 — with Camille Fournier</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/founder-mode-the-manager-s-path-with-camille-fournier--62039418</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Camille Fournier!   Camille is an accomplished CTO and executive with 20+ years of experience in tech, and author of the timeless The Manager’s Path, possibly the most influential book ever about engineering management.  With Camille we talked about good vs bad management, the controversial new founder mode, career advice for managers and her next book about platform engineering.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:01) Introduction (03:51) About the founder mode (11:46) Good weed, bad weeds (17:49) Finding "the formula" (21:24) Managing at different levels (28:03) The identity war (32:55) The staples of management (39:53) Having a strong opinion (43:21) Staying valuable (49:53) Keep your skills valuable (55:15) Platform engineering  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">8a945283-1791-4bad-8fb7-1d7f0ecf952c</guid><pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62039418/386579243_44100_2_f5b64c407d12b.mp3" length="56489690" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Camille Fournier!   Camille is an accomplished CTO and executive with 20+ years of experience in tech, and author of the timeless The Manager’s Path, possibly the most influential book ever about engineering management.  With Camille...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Camille Fournier!   Camille is an accomplished CTO and executive with 20+ years of experience in tech, and author of the timeless The Manager’s Path, possibly the most influential book ever about engineering management.  With Camille we talked about good vs bad management, the controversial new founder mode, career advice for managers and her next book about platform engineering.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:01) Introduction (03:51) About the founder mode (11:46) Good weed, bad weeds (17:49) Finding "the formula" (21:24) Managing at different levels (28:03) The identity war (32:55) The staples of management (39:53) Having a strong opinion (43:21) Staying valuable (49:53) Keep your skills valuable (55:15) Platform engineering  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3531</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2280e9255b31e732ee13f33b28db2be3.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Merchants of Complexity 🏯 — with DHH</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/merchants-of-complexity-with-dhh--61280269</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson!   David is the creator of Rails, co-founder &amp; CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years!  In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software development, including today's excessive complexity in software and infrastructure, the role of AI, and the future of open source. We also talked about his racing and how he approaches learning any topic from scratch.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:20) Introduction (03:42) Merchants of Complexity (13:19) Innovating the dev experience (21:53) Complexity in small projects (28:14) Incentives hurt open source (32:49) Subscription vs ONCE (35:24) David and AI (47:27) Using AI as training wheels (49:42) The art of learning  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">caf7b61e-f288-44f9-a28b-98d45240a427</guid><pubDate>Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61280269/385858324_44100_2_8e94d7c853216.mp3" length="57274617" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson!   David is the creator of Rails, co-founder &amp;amp; CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years!  In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson!   David is the creator of Rails, co-founder &amp; CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years!  In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software development, including today's excessive complexity in software and infrastructure, the role of AI, and the future of open source. We also talked about his racing and how he approaches learning any topic from scratch.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:20) Introduction (03:42) Merchants of Complexity (13:19) Innovating the dev experience (21:53) Complexity in small projects (28:14) Incentives hurt open source (32:49) Subscription vs ONCE (35:24) David and AI (47:27) Using AI as training wheels (49:42) The art of learning  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3580</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5146fd448826588f7871595164696b07.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Continuous Coordination 🔀 — with Henry Poydar</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/continuous-coordination-with-henry-poydar--61121717</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Henry Poydar!   Henry is CEO and founder at Steady, with more than 25 years of experience in tech leadership roles.  With Henry, we talked about continuous coordination, an open source framework he co-created, providing a set of principles and practices for running modern, effective engineering teams.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:25) Introduction (02:25) Henry's Career (13:23) Create async communication (16:47) Keeping a steady beat (23:02) Define a necessary meeting (26:00) The proper alignment (30:58) Applying continuous coordination (37:06) Discovering how your team works (38:38) Managing in the AI era (44:27) How remote can improve working (48:20) How AI is affecting team work  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">bb5ca82b-54be-4a97-aa80-997c8b95978d</guid><pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61121717/385104539_44100_2_c4fdaf63a0f75.mp3" length="50762395" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Henry Poydar!   Henry is CEO and founder at Steady, with more than 25 years of experience in tech leadership roles.  With Henry, we talked about continuous coordination, an open source framework he co-created, providing a set of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Henry Poydar!   Henry is CEO and founder at Steady, with more than 25 years of experience in tech leadership roles.  With Henry, we talked about continuous coordination, an open source framework he co-created, providing a set of principles and practices for running modern, effective engineering teams.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:25) Introduction (02:25) Henry's Career (13:23) Create async communication (16:47) Keeping a steady beat (23:02) Define a necessary meeting (26:00) The proper alignment (30:58) Applying continuous coordination (37:06) Discovering how your team works (38:38) Managing in the AI era (44:27) How remote can improve working (48:20) How AI is affecting team work  — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3173</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e132f095d6c6c93c010b5b96582d98f0.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Dana’s Journey, Hiring Engineers &amp; AI 🗺️ — with Dana Lawson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/dana-s-journey-hiring-engineers-ai-with-dana-lawson--60963971</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dana Lawson!   Dana is CTO at Netlify and held leadership roles at incredible companies like GitHub, New Relic, InVision, and more. With Dana, we talked about her journey, starting in the military, becoming a manager and major lessons she has learned. We also talked about how to hire engineers, how to create a diverse and inclusive team, and the impact of AI on engineering.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:25) Introduction (02:07) Dana's tech journey (08:43) Career's tipping points (14:53) Balancing technical and managing skills (19:32) Connecting is key (22:11) Hiring in 2024 (28:04) How AI is affecting hiring (32:54) Pursuing diversity in a team (43:39) Pushing boundaries and growth (45:47) Integrating AI in the workflow — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d68a668d-9461-4291-987b-38a59be87fe3</guid><pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60963971/384298967_44100_2_ae8f895a9ef3b.mp3" length="50946715" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Dana Lawson!   Dana is CTO at Netlify and held leadership roles at incredible companies like GitHub, New Relic, InVision, and more. With Dana, we talked about her journey, starting in the military, becoming a manager and major lessons...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Dana Lawson!   Dana is CTO at Netlify and held leadership roles at incredible companies like GitHub, New Relic, InVision, and more. With Dana, we talked about her journey, starting in the military, becoming a manager and major lessons she has learned. We also talked about how to hire engineers, how to create a diverse and inclusive team, and the impact of AI on engineering.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:25) Introduction (02:07) Dana's tech journey (08:43) Career's tipping points (14:53) Balancing technical and managing skills (19:32) Connecting is key (22:11) Hiring in 2024 (28:04) How AI is affecting hiring (32:54) Pursuing diversity in a team (43:39) Pushing boundaries and growth (45:47) Integrating AI in the workflow — This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3185</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/cbc50efb3b69e1666f7c17c9e4324670.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Power of Influence 📣 — with Irina Stanescu</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-power-of-influence-with-irina-stanescu--60810650</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Irina Stanescu!   Irina is a full-time engineering coach, course instructor, and former manager at Uber and Google. With Irina, we talked about her journey through Silicon Valley, big tech, and high growth startups, balancing IC and management duties, and achieving impact through influence.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:21) Introduction (02:02) Irina’s first steps (06:10) Joining Google (08:15) From Google to Uber (10:16) Being a young TLM (14:34) The restraints of a TLM (18:14) Uber vs Google (22:01) Impact through influence (28:09) Training your influence skills (35:42) Applying influence in specific roles (38:04) How to be an helpful EM  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d7f995a5-8671-4cef-a2d0-0dfe4ee3ceda</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60810650/383804011_44100_2_3ebba39abfebf.mp3" length="45665801" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Irina Stanescu!   Irina is a full-time engineering coach, course instructor, and former manager at Uber and Google. With Irina, we talked about her journey through Silicon Valley, big tech, and high growth startups, balancing IC and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Irina Stanescu!   Irina is a full-time engineering coach, course instructor, and former manager at Uber and Google. With Irina, we talked about her journey through Silicon Valley, big tech, and high growth startups, balancing IC and management duties, and achieving impact through influence.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:21) Introduction (02:02) Irina’s first steps (06:10) Joining Google (08:15) From Google to Uber (10:16) Being a young TLM (14:34) The restraints of a TLM (18:14) Uber vs Google (22:01) Impact through influence (28:09) Training your influence skills (35:42) Applying influence in specific roles (38:04) How to be an helpful EM  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2855</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1c595dbde4e43255e45fbb2e74c5317a.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Code Reviews, AI, and Modern Engineering 🔍 — with Greg Foster</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/code-reviews-ai-and-modern-engineering-with-greg-foster--60670225</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Greg Foster!   Greg is CTO at Graphite, a tool that helps teams doing better code reviews, and smaller and faster code changes.  With Greg, we talked about what good code reviews look like, how AI is changing the development process, and how the Graphite engineering team works.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:01) Introduction (03:06) What is Graphite? (05:05) Graphite's code reviewing (09:58) Combining different workflows (13:07) Monorepos vs polyrepos (17:28) Conducting code reviews (21:57) The landscape of automated review (25:09) The hidden meaning behind skipping code reviews (27:43) Common mistakes (29:53) Integrating AI in code review (34:36) AI - human balance (38:27) Tech apprenticeship in the AI era (41:14) Graphite's structure (45:15) A dev tool from devs (47:23) Delivery process at Graphite  — You can also find this at:  📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>  📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> 📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠</a>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">48598ebf-d968-4a57-aea0-72b83c8b577d</guid><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60670225/381826194_44100_2_e4dd647aaf36e.mp3" length="52990536" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Greg Foster!   Greg is CTO at Graphite, a tool that helps teams doing better code reviews, and smaller and faster code changes.  With Greg, we talked about what good code reviews look like, how AI is changing the development process,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Greg Foster!   Greg is CTO at Graphite, a tool that helps teams doing better code reviews, and smaller and faster code changes.  With Greg, we talked about what good code reviews look like, how AI is changing the development process, and how the Graphite engineering team works.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:01) Introduction (03:06) What is Graphite? (05:05) Graphite's code reviewing (09:58) Combining different workflows (13:07) Monorepos vs polyrepos (17:28) Conducting code reviews (21:57) The landscape of automated review (25:09) The hidden meaning behind skipping code reviews (27:43) Common mistakes (29:53) Integrating AI in code review (34:36) AI - human balance (38:27) Tech apprenticeship in the AI era (41:14) Graphite's structure (45:15) A dev tool from devs (47:23) Delivery process at Graphite  — You can also find this at:  📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a>  📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a> 📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠</a>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3312</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/232a618ceb7a6659f890cf94264201fd.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Vercel Works 🔍 — with Malte Ubl</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-vercel-works-with-malte-ubl--60535698</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Malte Ubl!   Malte is CTO at Vercel, the frontend cloud provider, and creator and maintainer of Next.js, the most popular React framework.  Malte has also been Engineer Director at Google, where he led Google Search for desktop computers.  With Malte, we deep dived into how Vercel works as a team, what could developer experience look like, and the future of AI-enabled applications.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:21) Introduction (02:17) How Vercel works (05:01) Vercel team strategy (06:29) The journey of a new code (13:45) Do we need engineering managers? (16:59) Necessary and useless roles (22:51) Vercel' developing strategy (33:19) The ideal development process (37:25) Finding and avoiding bottlenecks (40:48) Thoughts on AI shift (47:46) Adapting software to AI interaction (53:01) AI and open source  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubu can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">dc52a511-94a5-43c4-85fa-59da4f5e0ec4</guid><pubDate>Fri, 28 Jun 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60535698/381702344_44100_2_6f7a44831bbe7.mp3" length="57349014" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Malte Ubl!   Malte is CTO at Vercel, the frontend cloud provider, and creator and maintainer of Next.js, the most popular React framework.  Malte has also been Engineer Director at Google, where he led Google Search for desktop...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Malte Ubl!   Malte is CTO at Vercel, the frontend cloud provider, and creator and maintainer of Next.js, the most popular React framework.  Malte has also been Engineer Director at Google, where he led Google Search for desktop computers.  With Malte, we deep dived into how Vercel works as a team, what could developer experience look like, and the future of AI-enabled applications.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:21) Introduction (02:17) How Vercel works (05:01) Vercel team strategy (06:29) The journey of a new code (13:45) Do we need engineering managers? (16:59) Necessary and useless roles (22:51) Vercel' developing strategy (33:19) The ideal development process (37:25) Finding and avoiding bottlenecks (40:48) Thoughts on AI shift (47:46) Adapting software to AI interaction (53:01) AI and open source  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubu can also find this at:  - 📬 Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - 🎧 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - 📱 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3585</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/f3c135f3c9fa2d2c5ecfe4fef000e776.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Good Tech Strategy / Bad Tech Strategy 🔮 — with Anna Shipman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/good-tech-strategy-bad-tech-strategy-with-anna-shipman--60458039</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Anna Shipman!   Anna is CTO at Kooth, former Technical Director at Financial Times, a Keynote speaker and accomplished author.  With Anna, we talked about her journey in tech and how to develop a good technical strategy, drawing from stories and examples from her 20 plus years of engineering experience.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:54) Introduction (01:20) Anna's journey in Tech (06:36) Going from public to private (09:17) What does Kooth do? (12:53) Technical strategy definition  (15:01) Applying the strategy (24:53) Improving over time (30:10) The strategy framework (33:38) The pitfalls of setting up a strategy (36:23) Converge team and strategy (41:45) The strategist authority  Here are a few articles and resources that were mentioned throughout the interview: <ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/ft-product-technology/a-faster-ft-com-10e7c077dc1c" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A faster FT.com</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/ft-product-technology/no-next-next-42c71541ebcc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">No next next</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/building-kooth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Building Kooth</a></li><li><a href="https://www.annashipman.co.uk/jfdi.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anna’s website</a></li></ul>  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">08b55561-b86d-4b13-88dc-6ba09272525f</guid><pubDate>Fri, 21 Jun 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60458039/381099807_44100_2_d3887937e2cab.mp3" length="46489181" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Anna Shipman!   Anna is CTO at Kooth, former Technical Director at Financial Times, a Keynote speaker and accomplished author.  With Anna, we talked about her journey in tech and how to develop a good technical strategy, drawing from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Anna Shipman!   Anna is CTO at Kooth, former Technical Director at Financial Times, a Keynote speaker and accomplished author.  With Anna, we talked about her journey in tech and how to develop a good technical strategy, drawing from stories and examples from her 20 plus years of engineering experience.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:54) Introduction (01:20) Anna's journey in Tech (06:36) Going from public to private (09:17) What does Kooth do? (12:53) Technical strategy definition  (15:01) Applying the strategy (24:53) Improving over time (30:10) The strategy framework (33:38) The pitfalls of setting up a strategy (36:23) Converge team and strategy (41:45) The strategist authority  Here are a few articles and resources that were mentioned throughout the interview: <ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/ft-product-technology/a-faster-ft-com-10e7c077dc1c" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A faster FT.com</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/ft-product-technology/no-next-next-42c71541ebcc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">No next next</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/building-kooth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Building Kooth</a></li><li><a href="https://www.annashipman.co.uk/jfdi.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anna’s website</a></li></ul>  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2906</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a8e1fd306f15e478731fd2e3bd903fc6.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Elements of an Effective Software Organization 🔧 — with Rebecca Murphey</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/elements-of-an-effective-software-organization-with-rebecca-murphey--60381178</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rebecca Murphey.  <br /> Rebecca is field CTO at Swarmia, former manager at Stripe and Indeed, and the author of Build: Elements of an Effective Software Organization.  With Rebecca, we talked about her journey through Indeed, Stripe and Swarmia and the three pillars of her book, business outcomes, developer productivity, and developer experience. Here is what we talked about:  (00:58) Introduction (02:15) Rebecca's Journey (08:24) Joining Swarmia (15:02) 1st Pillar: Business outcomes (23:08) Team structure &amp; Company architecture (29:18) Keeping the lights on (33:56) 2nd Pillar: Developer productivity (38:44) Using numbers in the right way (43:25) The best way of working (51:07) 3rd Pillar: Developer experience (56:52) The effects of "Build" on Swarmia  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">3ca41f9a-3e8b-4cbc-a291-a4b7dfc5ee58</guid><pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60381178/380483487_44100_2_a8aff8cff26d5.mp3" length="58438216" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Rebecca Murphey.  
 Rebecca is field CTO at Swarmia, former manager at Stripe and Indeed, and the author of Build: Elements of an Effective Software Organization.  With Rebecca, we talked about her journey through Indeed, Stripe and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rebecca Murphey.  <br /> Rebecca is field CTO at Swarmia, former manager at Stripe and Indeed, and the author of Build: Elements of an Effective Software Organization.  With Rebecca, we talked about her journey through Indeed, Stripe and Swarmia and the three pillars of her book, business outcomes, developer productivity, and developer experience. Here is what we talked about:  (00:58) Introduction (02:15) Rebecca's Journey (08:24) Joining Swarmia (15:02) 1st Pillar: Business outcomes (23:08) Team structure &amp; Company architecture (29:18) Keeping the lights on (33:56) 2nd Pillar: Developer productivity (38:44) Using numbers in the right way (43:25) The best way of working (51:07) 3rd Pillar: Developer experience (56:52) The effects of "Build" on Swarmia  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3653</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a8c9581eee681866bea2988f8f4f0ea6.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Scaling Teams at Sanity, Github, and Google 🏢 — with Rachel Potvin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/scaling-teams-at-sanity-github-and-google-with-rachel-potvin--60364732</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rachel Potvin.   Rachel is SVP of Engineering at Sanity, ex-VP of Engineering at Github, and previously worked at Google and Ubisoft. She has had an incredible career journey and is a world renowned speaker.  With Rachel we talked about her journey across what feels like different generations of companies. We talked about scaling teams, challenges, lessons learned and the great work she's doing at Sanity right now.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:37) Introduction (02:39) Rachel's journey at Google (08:06) From Google to GitHub (14:29) Building healthy engineering culture (18:56) GitHub growth &amp; hiring (21:44) Rachel's career at Sanity (26:21) Being a VP in Big tech (29:36) The road to "Sanity" (28:17) Startup planning (39:22) The fun factor (40:51) Adapting your experience to a new journey (47:13) Startup focus vs Big tech focus (49:13) Top-down strategy is good  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">243ea119-5f80-400b-8fa7-2298c982164c</guid><pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60364732/379800625_44100_2_d8d1d72133bf3.mp3" length="55405504" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Rachel Potvin.   Rachel is SVP of Engineering at Sanity, ex-VP of Engineering at Github, and previously worked at Google and Ubisoft. She has had an incredible career journey and is a world renowned speaker.  With Rachel we talked...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Rachel Potvin.   Rachel is SVP of Engineering at Sanity, ex-VP of Engineering at Github, and previously worked at Google and Ubisoft. She has had an incredible career journey and is a world renowned speaker.  With Rachel we talked about her journey across what feels like different generations of companies. We talked about scaling teams, challenges, lessons learned and the great work she's doing at Sanity right now.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:37) Introduction (02:39) Rachel's journey at Google (08:06) From Google to GitHub (14:29) Building healthy engineering culture (18:56) GitHub growth &amp; hiring (21:44) Rachel's career at Sanity (26:21) Being a VP in Big tech (29:36) The road to "Sanity" (28:17) Startup planning (39:22) The fun factor (40:51) Adapting your experience to a new journey (47:13) Startup focus vs Big tech focus (49:13) Top-down strategy is good  —  For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.club <br /> — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3463</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/59b91f284bc933f513c1aaef62efb306.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Perplexity Works — with Denis Yarats 🤖</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-perplexity-works-with-denis-yarats--60231408</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Denis Yarats.   Denis is co-founder &amp; CTO at Perplexity, one of my favorite products and one of the most successful AI startups today. Perplexity was founded less than two years ago and has just raised $250M in venture capital, at a $2B+ evaluation.  With Denis, we talked about the state of AI products and his vision of where they're going. Then we talked about Perplexity as a company, how the team is organized, how engineers work, and how they use AI themselves.  —— I am sorry for the bad audio quality on my side 🙏 the recording picked up the wrong mic and we realized it only during editing 🙏 ——  Here is what we talked about:  (02:04) Introduction (03:08) The History of Perplexity (09:35) Startup and AI costs (12:14) The proper AI model (14:47) Open vs Proprietary Source (15:51) Is AI evolution saturated? (17:07) How Perplexity uses AI (18:49) Perplexity Engineering team (21:48) Trials, teams and management (28:17) Startup planning (31:53) Team structure (33:33) Developing procedures (37:35) Perplexity's "secret sauce" (40:31) Metrics in Perplexity (44:38) Perplexity's future  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">6bd794a8-a784-4f87-a941-22fb585d4031</guid><pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60231408/379110214_44100_2_a3cce8c1d3a7f.mp3" length="47644838" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Denis Yarats.   Denis is co-founder &amp;amp; CTO at Perplexity, one of my favorite products and one of the most successful AI startups today. Perplexity was founded less than two years ago and has just raised $250M in venture capital, at...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Denis Yarats.   Denis is co-founder &amp; CTO at Perplexity, one of my favorite products and one of the most successful AI startups today. Perplexity was founded less than two years ago and has just raised $250M in venture capital, at a $2B+ evaluation.  With Denis, we talked about the state of AI products and his vision of where they're going. Then we talked about Perplexity as a company, how the team is organized, how engineers work, and how they use AI themselves.  —— I am sorry for the bad audio quality on my side 🙏 the recording picked up the wrong mic and we realized it only during editing 🙏 ——  Here is what we talked about:  (02:04) Introduction (03:08) The History of Perplexity (09:35) Startup and AI costs (12:14) The proper AI model (14:47) Open vs Proprietary Source (15:51) Is AI evolution saturated? (17:07) How Perplexity uses AI (18:49) Perplexity Engineering team (21:48) Trials, teams and management (28:17) Startup planning (31:53) Team structure (33:33) Developing procedures (37:35) Perplexity's "secret sauce" (40:31) Metrics in Perplexity (44:38) Perplexity's future  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2978</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bdee97df852bda53934c13979b2dab38.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Facebook, Dropbox &amp; Modern Engineering Teams 📈 — with Aditya Agarwal</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/facebook-dropbox-modern-engineering-teams-with-aditya-agarwal--60157617</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Aditya Agarwal.   Aditya is a legend: he joined Facebook as employee #10 and, years later, joined Dropbox as CTO when there were ~20 engineers. Today, he is partner at South Park Commons, through which he invested in more than 300 companies.  Today we talked about early stage Facebook, differences and similarities with Dropbox, engineering teams in hyper growth and the future of engineering management.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:17) Introduction (03:10) Facebook Employee n 10 (09:57) The value of being a "generalist" (12:46) Moving fast and breaking things (19:24) From Cove to Dropbox (22:10) Dropbox vs Facebook (25:56) Finding company's culture (29:23) The challenges of hyper growth (34:42) The hyper growth in the next era (39:35) Engineering managers are more technical (42:42) Being a technical CTO (45:33) South Park Commons  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">675848e8-7bba-4e42-82c1-45ba3baddb79</guid><pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60157617/378525988_44100_2_4135af628ced8.mp3" length="48838111" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Aditya Agarwal.   Aditya is a legend: he joined Facebook as employee #10 and, years later, joined Dropbox as CTO when there were ~20 engineers. Today, he is partner at South Park Commons, through which he invested in more than 300...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Aditya Agarwal.   Aditya is a legend: he joined Facebook as employee #10 and, years later, joined Dropbox as CTO when there were ~20 engineers. Today, he is partner at South Park Commons, through which he invested in more than 300 companies.  Today we talked about early stage Facebook, differences and similarities with Dropbox, engineering teams in hyper growth and the future of engineering management.  Here is what we talked about:  (02:17) Introduction (03:10) Facebook Employee n 10 (09:57) The value of being a "generalist" (12:46) Moving fast and breaking things (19:24) From Cove to Dropbox (22:10) Dropbox vs Facebook (25:56) Finding company's culture (29:23) The challenges of hyper growth (34:42) The hyper growth in the next era (39:35) Engineering managers are more technical (42:42) Being a technical CTO (45:33) South Park Commons  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3053</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/862507197c22bab866b1ce507a04eed5.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Observability &amp; Testing in Production 🔭 — with Charity Majors</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/observability-testing-in-production-with-charity-majors--59959688</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb and one of my absolute favorite writers. I believe I have recommended more articles from her blog than any other author on the newsletter.  Today we talked about observability, testing in production, continuous delivery, developer experience and much more.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:49) Introduction (01:57) What is observability (07:00) Observability in microservices (12:51) From monitoring to observing (16:20) Start observing now (19:36) How to use observability (26:11) Observability costs (31:23) Testing in production (34:09) Continuous delivery (38:24) The greatest productivity offenders (43:04) Caring about the business (46:54) Generative tools add complexity (49:15) Junior engineers leverage — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">79def443-933d-4084-b83b-9eb52bb1608a</guid><pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59959688/376947932_44100_2_dc084202b44c6.mp3" length="51072103" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb and one of my absolute favorite writers. I believe I have recommended more articles from her blog than any other author on the newsletter.  Today we talked about observability, testing in production,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Charity Majors, CTO at Honeycomb and one of my absolute favorite writers. I believe I have recommended more articles from her blog than any other author on the newsletter.  Today we talked about observability, testing in production, continuous delivery, developer experience and much more.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:49) Introduction (01:57) What is observability (07:00) Observability in microservices (12:51) From monitoring to observing (16:20) Start observing now (19:36) How to use observability (26:11) Observability costs (31:23) Testing in production (34:09) Continuous delivery (38:24) The greatest productivity offenders (43:04) Caring about the business (46:54) Generative tools add complexity (49:15) Junior engineers leverage — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3192</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/8226d42fe8ef4413834db433603d9e85.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Engineering Productivity and Developer Experience 📊 — with Laura Tacho (DX)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/engineering-productivity-and-developer-experience-with-laura-tacho-dx--59775291</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Laura Tacho, CTO at DX, engineering leadership coach, and speaker.  At DX, she works with hundreds of companies on improving their developer experience and engineering productivity. Here is what we talked about: (02:20) Introduction (03:36) Why measure engineering productivity (05:58) Finding the proper framework (13:33) Value metrics to find issues (15:00) Identify and ease the pressure (18:12) Reaching the proper execution (21:16) Measuring in different environments (25:25) The DevEx framework (27:58) Empowering DevEx in a business (31:56) Patterns for DevEx integration (41:03) Responsibilities ownership (47:48) The DevEx offenders — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">26413817-9cf3-4e7f-b797-ebae3fd3d081</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 14:04:40 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59775291/376195175_44100_2_147fc35492795.mp3" length="54488501" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Laura Tacho, CTO at DX, engineering leadership coach, and speaker.  At DX, she works with hundreds of companies on improving their developer experience and engineering productivity. Here is what we talked about: (02:20) Introduction...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Laura Tacho, CTO at DX, engineering leadership coach, and speaker.  At DX, she works with hundreds of companies on improving their developer experience and engineering productivity. Here is what we talked about: (02:20) Introduction (03:36) Why measure engineering productivity (05:58) Finding the proper framework (13:33) Value metrics to find issues (15:00) Identify and ease the pressure (18:12) Reaching the proper execution (21:16) Measuring in different environments (25:25) The DevEx framework (27:58) Empowering DevEx in a business (31:56) Patterns for DevEx integration (41:03) Responsibilities ownership (47:48) The DevEx offenders — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3406</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7734ba4e61582c41e5497aea2e5e157a.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Small Bets for Engineers 💰 — with Daniel Vassallo (Small Bets)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/small-bets-for-engineers-with-daniel-vassallo-small-bets--59662634</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Daniel Vassallo, the creator of the Small Bets community, which counts more than 5 ,000 members and includes engineers, entrepreneurs, and creators of all kinds.  Daniel is also a former software engineer at AWS, the author of The Good Parts of AWS and created a successful Twitter course.  With Daniel, we will talk about his unconventional journey in tech, the Small Bets philosophy, and advice for engineers about careers, site projects, technology and skills.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:11) Introduction &amp; background (05:21) Small Bets' genesis &amp; philosophy (14:36) Understanding the market (19:36) Taking care of the downsides (24:43) Improving your lifestyle first (29:05) The dangers of labelling yourself (32:10) Allocating your time (37:13) Self-managing your own work (45:34) Transitioning to a self-employed lifestyle (52:21) The selection criteria for your ideas — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">9b816483-327f-4d25-a6a9-b8176856d67d</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Apr 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59662634/375423776_44100_2_53711d1fb1968.mp3" length="56707865" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Daniel Vassallo, the creator of the Small Bets community, which counts more than 5 ,000 members and includes engineers, entrepreneurs, and creators of all kinds.  Daniel is also a former software engineer at AWS, the author of The...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Daniel Vassallo, the creator of the Small Bets community, which counts more than 5 ,000 members and includes engineers, entrepreneurs, and creators of all kinds.  Daniel is also a former software engineer at AWS, the author of The Good Parts of AWS and created a successful Twitter course.  With Daniel, we will talk about his unconventional journey in tech, the Small Bets philosophy, and advice for engineers about careers, site projects, technology and skills.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:11) Introduction &amp; background (05:21) Small Bets' genesis &amp; philosophy (14:36) Understanding the market (19:36) Taking care of the downsides (24:43) Improving your lifestyle first (29:05) The dangers of labelling yourself (32:10) Allocating your time (37:13) Self-managing your own work (45:34) Transitioning to a self-employed lifestyle (52:21) The selection criteria for your ideas — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3545</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9998f8348f941e6cd0f5bcb49be9ff2f.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to be Successful as a Manager 🎽 — with Thiago Ghisi</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-be-successful-as-a-manager-with-thiago-ghisi--59303237</link><description><![CDATA[Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank.   Thiago has had an incredible tech career. Before Nubank, he worked at Apple, Amex and ThoughtWorks. He is also a deep thinker, hosts a podcast and constantly shares great advice on X and LinkedIn.  During our chat with Thiago, we talked about what makes managers successful, career expectations and frameworks and how to build a great tech career in 2024.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:13) Introduction (03:11) What makes people in tech productive (07:57) Beyond the feedback loop (11:24) Becoming a technical manager (18:45) How to be successful as Staff+ Engineer (26:47) From expert to achiever to strategist (34:46) Know your context but don't attach to it (46:00) The Four Ps (56:43) Q&amp;A  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">7b5f56b6-7e3c-4072-9b9a-636c7c7ad40d</guid><pubDate>Fri, 05 Apr 2024 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59303237/373219021_44100_2_a4f349df7981c.mp3" length="63617566" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank.   Thiago has had an incredible tech career. Before Nubank, he worked at Apple, Amex and ThoughtWorks. He is also a deep thinker, hosts a podcast and constantly shares great advice on X...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today's guest is Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank.   Thiago has had an incredible tech career. Before Nubank, he worked at Apple, Amex and ThoughtWorks. He is also a deep thinker, hosts a podcast and constantly shares great advice on X and LinkedIn.  During our chat with Thiago, we talked about what makes managers successful, career expectations and frameworks and how to build a great tech career in 2024.  Here is what we talked about:  (01:13) Introduction (03:11) What makes people in tech productive (07:57) Beyond the feedback loop (11:24) Becoming a technical manager (18:45) How to be successful as Staff+ Engineer (26:47) From expert to achiever to strategist (34:46) Know your context but don't attach to it (46:00) The Four Ps (56:43) Q&amp;A  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3977</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/36e7372f26bf8980207a327b6981ae76.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>It's Rarely About the Tech 👑 — with Andrew Weaver</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/it-s-rarely-about-the-tech-with-andrew-weaver--59215896</link><description><![CDATA[Andrew Weaver is co-founder and CEO of CTO Academy, an educational product that works with thousands of CTO today. Andrew has over 25+ years of executive-level experience with companies of various size, including enterprises, SME and early-stage companies across multiple sectors.   With Andrew, we discussed gaining the proper skillset to be a good CTO, the imbalances in the tech space, and how to keep up with the current technologies.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:00) Introduction (03:02) What is CTO Academy and how it works (07:53) What makes a good CTO (14:01) The CTO mindset (20:06) Being a CTO in a remote environment (23:20) Unleashing the "quiet genius" (28:11) How AI is changing tech (36:58) Education &amp; micro-learning (45:11) Q&amp;A  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">d043f9b7-0bc7-4b57-a84f-832c13d3bc70</guid><pubDate>Fri, 29 Mar 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59215896/372476831_44100_2_b24047d54864b.mp3" length="53413928" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Andrew Weaver is co-founder and CEO of CTO Academy, an educational product that works with thousands of CTO today. Andrew has over 25+ years of executive-level experience with companies of various size, including enterprises, SME and early-stage...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Andrew Weaver is co-founder and CEO of CTO Academy, an educational product that works with thousands of CTO today. Andrew has over 25+ years of executive-level experience with companies of various size, including enterprises, SME and early-stage companies across multiple sectors.   With Andrew, we discussed gaining the proper skillset to be a good CTO, the imbalances in the tech space, and how to keep up with the current technologies.  Here is what we talked about:  (00:00) Introduction (03:02) What is CTO Academy and how it works (07:53) What makes a good CTO (14:01) The CTO mindset (20:06) Being a CTO in a remote environment (23:20) Unleashing the "quiet genius" (28:11) How AI is changing tech (36:58) Education &amp; micro-learning (45:11) Q&amp;A  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3339</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/98bc396ba9be60c4078a73756b753caf.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Good Communication for Engineers 💬 — with Wes Kao</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/good-communication-for-engineers-with-wes-kao--59134442</link><description><![CDATA[Wes Kao is a marketing executive, entrepreneur, and advisor who writes an <a href="https://newsletter.weskao.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">amazing newsletter</a> for high-performers in tech.  She is co-founder of Maven, an edtech company that raised $25M from First Round and Andreessen Horowitz. Previously, she co-founded the altMBA with bestselling author Seth Godin. <br /> Here is what we talked about: (00:00) Introduction (03:08) Managing up (10:13) Bridging the gap between managers and reports (13:33) The “Bad Things / Good Things” framework (19:14) Good communication in the remote era (24:17) The transition to remote work at Maven (29:28) Sync vs async communication (33:41) Asynchronous videos (38:39) Transitioning to a Manager (46:57) Psychological safety (53:03) Over-communicating is communicating (58:59) Wes’ approach to reading  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ce803cbe-d88c-4ed4-a6de-b868eb64adfa</guid><pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2024 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59134442/371734136_44100_2_231c0a8b7348f.mp3" length="63842010" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Wes Kao is a marketing executive, entrepreneur, and advisor who writes an https://newsletter.weskao.com for high-performers in tech.  She is co-founder of Maven, an edtech company that raised $25M from First Round and Andreessen Horowitz. Previously,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Wes Kao is a marketing executive, entrepreneur, and advisor who writes an <a href="https://newsletter.weskao.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">amazing newsletter</a> for high-performers in tech.  She is co-founder of Maven, an edtech company that raised $25M from First Round and Andreessen Horowitz. Previously, she co-founded the altMBA with bestselling author Seth Godin. <br /> Here is what we talked about: (00:00) Introduction (03:08) Managing up (10:13) Bridging the gap between managers and reports (13:33) The “Bad Things / Good Things” framework (19:14) Good communication in the remote era (24:17) The transition to remote work at Maven (29:28) Sync vs async communication (33:41) Asynchronous videos (38:39) Transitioning to a Manager (46:57) Psychological safety (53:03) Over-communicating is communicating (58:59) Wes’ approach to reading  — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3991</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/0e5d06365e68b227b6916a6effd10d4c.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Build High Performing Engineering Teams 🏗️ — with Maria Gutierrez (Personio, Twitter)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-build-high-performing-engineering-teams-with-maria-gutierrez-personio-twitter--59047629</link><description><![CDATA[Maria Gutierrez is the VP of Engineering at Personio, and ex VP of Engineering and Operations at Twitter.  With Maria we talked about how to build healthy and impactful engineering orgs as they scale. We touched on everything from processes to remote work, development cycle, hiring, structuring teams and more.  (00:00) Introduction (02:12) Maria's career journey (05:18) How hyper-growth breaks engineering teams, and how to prevent it (09:32) How to balance speed and quality (13:40) What a high performing team looks like (15:46) How to scale without adding friction (19:22) Personio's engineering team and growth  (21:02) Remote work: impact, relationships, and challenges (32:54) How remote work impacts different roles (38:09) Transition from engineer to manager (45:08) How to use engineering productivity metrics (51:05) The use of AI in Maria's teams (54:50) The evolution of engineering managers (58:11) Career advice for engineers — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">4a90ba72-17d3-4695-aaa9-04485902763e</guid><pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:14:39 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59047629/370911990_44100_2_b6a0b1e1a6dea.mp3" length="59369847" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Maria Gutierrez is the VP of Engineering at Personio, and ex VP of Engineering and Operations at Twitter.  With Maria we talked about how to build healthy and impactful engineering orgs as they scale. We touched on everything from processes to remote...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Maria Gutierrez is the VP of Engineering at Personio, and ex VP of Engineering and Operations at Twitter.  With Maria we talked about how to build healthy and impactful engineering orgs as they scale. We touched on everything from processes to remote work, development cycle, hiring, structuring teams and more.  (00:00) Introduction (02:12) Maria's career journey (05:18) How hyper-growth breaks engineering teams, and how to prevent it (09:32) How to balance speed and quality (13:40) What a high performing team looks like (15:46) How to scale without adding friction (19:22) Personio's engineering team and growth  (21:02) Remote work: impact, relationships, and challenges (32:54) How remote work impacts different roles (38:09) Transition from engineer to manager (45:08) How to use engineering productivity metrics (51:05) The use of AI in Maria's teams (54:50) The evolution of engineering managers (58:11) Career advice for engineers — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3711</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c660c9729117cd768c0e8d29efa31434.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Improve Developer Productivity 📊 — with Kathryn Koehler (Netflix)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-improve-developer-productivity-with-kathryn-koehler-netflix--58878477</link><description><![CDATA[Kathryn Koehler is the Director of Productivity Engineering at Netflix. Her teams focus on the development environment and associated experiences, which enable and empower developers at Netflix to bootstrap, code, build, test, debug, and maintain software more effectively and efficiently. Productivity is an ever-controversial topic in engineering, and with Kathryn we dived right into it! Here is what we talked about: (00:00) Introduction (03:54) Netflix Culture (10:37) Developer Productivity (22:54) Platform Teams (28:57) Meetings, Processes &amp; Planning (41:26) Productivity Metrics (52:44) Q&amp;A: AI, metrics, remote — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">be5abd44-6a8e-4bde-920e-200f415f7342</guid><pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:33:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58878477/369222676_44100_2_c34e716c3bfa.mp3" length="63547349" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Kathryn Koehler is the Director of Productivity Engineering at Netflix. Her teams focus on the development environment and associated experiences, which enable and empower developers at Netflix to bootstrap, code, build, test, debug, and maintain...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Kathryn Koehler is the Director of Productivity Engineering at Netflix. Her teams focus on the development environment and associated experiences, which enable and empower developers at Netflix to bootstrap, code, build, test, debug, and maintain software more effectively and efficiently. Productivity is an ever-controversial topic in engineering, and with Kathryn we dived right into it! Here is what we talked about: (00:00) Introduction (03:54) Netflix Culture (10:37) Developer Productivity (22:54) Platform Teams (28:57) Meetings, Processes &amp; Planning (41:26) Productivity Metrics (52:44) Q&amp;A: AI, metrics, remote — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3972</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/eb37410df07bfe74e92e48b72984b9d0.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Running a Remote Big Tech — with Farhan Thawar (Shopify)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/running-a-remote-big-tech-with-farhan-thawar-shopify--58784792</link><description><![CDATA[Farhan Thawar is VP of Engineering at Shopify, angel investor, and entrepreneur. Shopify is a public company with thousands of employees, and one of the very few companies of its scale to be remote-first. While other big tech quietly issued RTOs, Shopify doubled down on processes and culture that allowed it to stay remote, or, in their own words: digital-first. So, today, Shopify has ports instead of offices, does VR meetings, has a unique collaboration culture, and completely embraced AI for productivity. Here is everything we covered in the chat: (00:00) Introduction (05:49) Balancing Remote &amp; IRL (09:20) Remote Communication (15:15) Remote vs IRL culture (21:30) Using VR for meetings and work (26:53) Pair Programming (39:57) The role of managers (46:20) Be an AI Centaur (51:23) Engineering Productivity Metrics (58:33) Q&amp;A — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul> — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">18ba45ae-05cf-45f2-8f3e-5883397d5114</guid><pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58784792/368359290_44100_2_8d47c9f096211.mp3" length="64085262" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Farhan Thawar is VP of Engineering at Shopify, angel investor, and entrepreneur. Shopify is a public company with thousands of employees, and one of the very few companies of its scale to be remote-first. While other big tech quietly issued RTOs,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Farhan Thawar is VP of Engineering at Shopify, angel investor, and entrepreneur. Shopify is a public company with thousands of employees, and one of the very few companies of its scale to be remote-first. While other big tech quietly issued RTOs, Shopify doubled down on processes and culture that allowed it to stay remote, or, in their own words: digital-first. So, today, Shopify has ports instead of offices, does VR meetings, has a unique collaboration culture, and completely embraced AI for productivity. Here is everything we covered in the chat: (00:00) Introduction (05:49) Balancing Remote &amp; IRL (09:20) Remote Communication (15:15) Remote vs IRL culture (21:30) Using VR for meetings and work (26:53) Pair Programming (39:57) The role of managers (46:20) Be an AI Centaur (51:23) Engineering Productivity Metrics (58:33) Q&amp;A — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul> — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4006</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/32a68c2dcb91ee45c38b6bde1d3bf8e2.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The State of Software Engineering — with Kent Beck</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-state-of-software-engineering-with-kent-beck--58703404</link><description><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Kent Beck, original signer of the Agile manifesto, creator of Extreme Programming, and all-round programming legend. With Kent we had the unique opportunity to talk about the big picture. I inquired him about the state of the software engineering craft today, discussing things like: (00:00) Introduction (02:27) Agile vs Power Structures (08:37) The Return of Waterfall (12:33) Extreme Programming &amp; TDD (23:29) Feedback Loops (33:46) Code Reviews &amp; Stacked diffs (43:06) AI for Writing and Engineering — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">ec3cc348-0995-4fb8-9bcf-dc153cc47fc1</guid><pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2024 05:04:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58703404/367531402_44100_2_c7d3e8ad4d6d1.mp3" length="57761122" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today’s guest is Kent Beck, original signer of the Agile manifesto, creator of Extreme Programming, and all-round programming legend. With Kent we had the unique opportunity to talk about the big picture. I inquired him about the state of the software...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today’s guest is Kent Beck, original signer of the Agile manifesto, creator of Extreme Programming, and all-round programming legend. With Kent we had the unique opportunity to talk about the big picture. I inquired him about the state of the software engineering craft today, discussing things like: (00:00) Introduction (02:27) Agile vs Power Structures (08:37) The Return of Waterfall (12:33) Extreme Programming &amp; TDD (23:29) Feedback Loops (33:46) Code Reviews &amp; Stacked diffs (43:06) AI for Writing and Engineering — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠</a></li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3611</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3ada549f0bcae1c0e5f37be96e1255b9.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Integrating AI into Products and Teams — with Disheng Qiu (Translated)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/integrating-ai-into-products-and-teams-with-disheng-qiu-translated--58692245</link><description><![CDATA[Disheng Qiu is VP of Engineering at Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering localization for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more. Translated has been working on proprietary AI models and tools for 20+ years. It has an internal research team and develops tools that power the work of tens of thousands of professionals. With Disheng we explored what it means to be an AI-first company. We talked about many things, including: (00:00) Introduction (03:24) What does Translated do? (12:40) Challenges and costs of fine-tuning AI models (30:36) Bringing AI research into products (43:30) The role of AI in enhancing productivity (57:12) The future of AI and human collaboration — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Newsletter⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Youtube⁠</a> </li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">83013fd4-0c0a-4d1a-9cc3-cc3ff28ef9e2</guid><pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 15:59:55 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58692245/366748435_44100_2_936c6f6c6a09b.mp3" length="59572557" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Disheng Qiu is VP of Engineering at Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering localization for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more. Translated has been working on proprietary AI models and tools for 20+...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Disheng Qiu is VP of Engineering at Translated, one of the largest translation companies in the world, powering localization for the likes of Airbnb, Uber, Skyscanner, and more. Translated has been working on proprietary AI models and tools for 20+ years. It has an internal research team and develops tools that power the work of tens of thousands of professionals. With Disheng we explored what it means to be an AI-first company. We talked about many things, including: (00:00) Introduction (03:24) What does Translated do? (12:40) Challenges and costs of fine-tuning AI models (30:36) Bringing AI research into products (43:30) The role of AI in enhancing productivity (57:12) The future of AI and human collaboration — You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Newsletter⁠</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Youtube⁠</a> </li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">⁠Apple⁠</a></li></ul>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3724</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b72892b62380e872a676a04bc1495e29.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The World Builder Framework — with Aadil Maan (Humane)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-world-builder-framework-with-aadil-maan-humane--58692248</link><description><![CDATA[Aadil Maan is Lead Engineering Program Manager at Humane and a big tech veteran, having worked at the likes of Google, Apple, and Blackberry.  Today’s theme is The World Builder Framework — Aadil's own approach to problem solving and solutioning processes, frameworks and workflows for product and engineering teams. Here are a few things we discussed in our chat: <ul><li>What do TPMs do? 🗺️</li><li>The World Builder Framework 🌎</li><li>Startups vs Big Tech 🏢</li><li>Hardware vs Software 🤖</li><li>Joining a new team 🎽</li></ul> — This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://linearb.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinearB</a>, the software engineering intelligence platform enabling engineering leaders improve their team’s operational efficiency, and align R&amp;D investments to business goals. — Here are the key chapters from the interview: (00:00) Introduction (04:30) What is Technical Program Management (09:21) The World Builder Framework (25:44) The Anti-Framework Approach (31:49) Mixing Frameworks for Bespoke Solutions (40:33) Startup vs Big Tech (50:35) Hardware vs Software (01:00:30) The Power of Conversations —  You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Newsletter</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube</a> </li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple</a></li></ul> — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">63248b32-61ae-4b42-8afa-0817d7dccd9c</guid><pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58692248/365872352_44100_2_73da37d80f355.mp3" length="63616730" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Aadil Maan is Lead Engineering Program Manager at Humane and a big tech veteran, having worked at the likes of Google, Apple, and Blackberry.  Today’s theme is The World Builder Framework — Aadil's own approach to problem solving and solutioning...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Aadil Maan is Lead Engineering Program Manager at Humane and a big tech veteran, having worked at the likes of Google, Apple, and Blackberry.  Today’s theme is The World Builder Framework — Aadil's own approach to problem solving and solutioning processes, frameworks and workflows for product and engineering teams. Here are a few things we discussed in our chat: <ul><li>What do TPMs do? 🗺️</li><li>The World Builder Framework 🌎</li><li>Startups vs Big Tech 🏢</li><li>Hardware vs Software 🤖</li><li>Joining a new team 🎽</li></ul> — This episode is brought to you by <a href="https://linearb.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinearB</a>, the software engineering intelligence platform enabling engineering leaders improve their team’s operational efficiency, and align R&amp;D investments to business goals. — Here are the key chapters from the interview: (00:00) Introduction (04:30) What is Technical Program Management (09:21) The World Builder Framework (25:44) The Anti-Framework Approach (31:49) Mixing Frameworks for Bespoke Solutions (40:33) Startup vs Big Tech (50:35) Hardware vs Software (01:00:30) The Power of Conversations —  You can also find this at: <ul><li>📬 <a href="https://refactoring.fm" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Newsletter</a></li><li>📺 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube</a> </li><li>📱 <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Apple</a></li></ul> — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3977</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/818610f1d694f9deec4e426bfde44cef.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Leading and Human-ing in 2024 — with Lena Reinhard (CircleCI)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/leading-and-human-ing-in-2024-with-lena-reinhard-circleci--58692246</link><description><![CDATA[Lena Reinhardt has dedicated her career to helping technology leaders build successful engineering organizations.  Her background includes roles such as VP of Engineering at CircleCI and TravisCI, along with being a co founder and CEO of a SaaS startup. She now works as a leadership coach, management trainer, and organizational developer. Here are a few things we discussed in our chat: <ul><li>Challenges in the tech industry 📉</li><li>Creating a healthy work environment 🏡</li><li>How to take care of yourself ❤️</li></ul> — This episode is brought to you by Swarmia, the engineering effectiveness platform for modern software organizations: https://swarmia.com — Here are the key chapters from the interview:  (00:00) Introduction (03:18) The Landscape of the Tech Industry (06:25) The Role of Venture Capital (13:14) Generational Shifts (19:40) Leading in Times of Uncertainty (22:57) Self-Care for Leaders (35:18) Understanding Your Role and Its Impact (41:18) Recognizing Signs of Burnout (44:37) Investing in a Healthy Work Environment (52:32) The Importance of Delegation and System Building (01:02:55) Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">baac8213-6014-4da7-9c22-88184220794d</guid><pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2024 05:07:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58692246/364912504_44100_2_7b6099dc25345.mp3" length="61685759" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Lena Reinhardt has dedicated her career to helping technology leaders build successful engineering organizations.  Her background includes roles such as VP of Engineering at CircleCI and TravisCI, along with being a co founder and CEO of a SaaS...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Lena Reinhardt has dedicated her career to helping technology leaders build successful engineering organizations.  Her background includes roles such as VP of Engineering at CircleCI and TravisCI, along with being a co founder and CEO of a SaaS startup. She now works as a leadership coach, management trainer, and organizational developer. Here are a few things we discussed in our chat: <ul><li>Challenges in the tech industry 📉</li><li>Creating a healthy work environment 🏡</li><li>How to take care of yourself ❤️</li></ul> — This episode is brought to you by Swarmia, the engineering effectiveness platform for modern software organizations: https://swarmia.com — Here are the key chapters from the interview:  (00:00) Introduction (03:18) The Landscape of the Tech Industry (06:25) The Role of Venture Capital (13:14) Generational Shifts (19:40) Leading in Times of Uncertainty (22:57) Self-Care for Leaders (35:18) Understanding Your Role and Its Impact (41:18) Recognizing Signs of Burnout (44:37) Investing in a Healthy Work Environment (52:32) The Importance of Delegation and System Building (01:02:55) Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts — For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email luca@refactoring.club]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3856</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/290d6285966369e7cd03625c5a4c55e6.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Introducing the Refactoring Podcast 🎙️</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/introducing-the-refactoring-podcast--58692249</link><description><![CDATA[Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders, available for free to everyone, in video and audio. <br /> 🗓️ New episodes drop every Friday. <br /> 📬 Subscribe to the newsletter at <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">refactoring.fm</a> to receive the episodes via email. <br /> 📺 Check out the full videos on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube channel</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">a065f170-6bb3-46d1-9db9-716ddb336c43</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 10:55:27 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58692249/2ff3b7f8_2880_123d_e8d5_266e44c235eb.mp3" length="4319782" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Luca Rossi</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders, available for free to everyone, in video and audio. 
 🗓️ New episodes drop every Friday. 
 📬 Subscribe to the newsletter at https://refactoring.fm/ to receive the episodes via email. 
 📺 Check...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders, available for free to everyone, in video and audio. <br /> 🗓️ New episodes drop every Friday. <br /> 📬 Subscribe to the newsletter at <a href="https://refactoring.fm/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">refactoring.fm</a> to receive the episodes via email. <br /> 📺 Check out the full videos on the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@refactoringclub" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube channel</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>270</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/32a9e90745e637ff9318ae3a2c08ac6c.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>
