<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Radical Sacred</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/radical-sacred--6035861</link><description><![CDATA[Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.<br /><br />For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. <br /><br />Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation. <br /><br />Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:<br /><ul><li>What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?</li><li>Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?</li><li>Where do you experience the Holy?</li><li>If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?</li><li>How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?</li><li>Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?</li><li>How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?</li></ul>Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.<br /><br />Will you join them?]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/6035861/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Christianity</category><copyright>Copyright Phillip Dieke</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg</url><title>Radical Sacred</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/radical-sacred--6035861</link></image><lastBuildDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 06:23:35 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Phillip Dieke and Jenny Misslin</itunes:name><itunes:email>radicalsacredpod@gmail.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.

For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted.<br /><br />For two years Jenny Misslin and Rev. Phil Dieke have been contemplating a podcast. An opportunity to discuss spirituality, nature, community, and the interconnectedness of it all. All things they love, are very anxious about, and eager to explore. <br /><br />Radical, defined as "the relating to the fundamental nature of something." This term can be divisive, but to Jenny and Phil it is an invitation to connect back to the divine goodness, the sacred, at the core of all creation. <br /><br />Radical Sacred is an invitation to join them in curiosity as they explore questions such as:<br /><ul><li>What is an experience that led you to a kinder, more inclusive spirituality?</li><li>Who was the first person you met that broadened your ideas about the Divine?</li><li>Where do you experience the Holy?</li><li>If liberation of self leads us on a pathway to liberation for all, what has that looked like in your own spirituality?</li><li>How do you find joy and pleasure in these wild times?</li><li>Has there been an anchor for you as your spirituality has shifted?</li><li>How can the stories we tell ourselves harm or heal ourselves, and creation?</li></ul>Not experts, Jenny and Phil strive to live the questions while exploring the mystery of all that is unsolved in our hearts and souls.<br /><br />Will you join them?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Religion &amp; Spirituality"><itunes:category text="Christianity"/></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>Doug Pagitt on July 4th, Patriotism, and the Common Good</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/doug-pagitt-on-july-4th-patriotism-and-the-common-good--72814562</link><description><![CDATA[Are you also feeling complex feelings about America, our history of violence as a country, our current fascist leadership, and our fear and hope for what’s to come this 4th of July? Join us as we talk to author, activist, musician and founder of Vote Common Good Doug Paggit. Doug leads us through this honest conversation on working for change together, mourning all that’s been, and building an America we can all belong to. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.votecommongood.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vote Common Good</a></li><li><a href="https://dougpagitt.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Doug Pagitt</a></li><li><a href="https://katiegaddini.com/books" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Esther’s Army - Katie Giddini </a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/147907/let-america-be-america-again" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let America be America by Langston Hughes</a> </li><li><a href="https://whosthewe.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Documentary - Cross Country Bike Ride “Whose the We</a>”</li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Expansive view of Christianity and faith</li><li>The role of stories in shaping identity</li><li>Patriotism and its personal nature</li><li>The importance of community and inclusion</li><li>The intersection of faith and politics</li><li>Stories of connection across political divides</li><li>The history of America and its narratives</li><li>The work of Vote Common Good</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:50 Exploring Identity and Belonging in America<br />03:31 The Emergence of Progressive Christianity<br />06:43 The Divine Dance: Understanding Community and Theology<br />09:38 Navigating Political Identity and Faith<br />12:45 The Role of Ancestors and Mentorship in Activism<br />15:35 The Intersection of Faith and Politics<br />18:36 Reimagining the American Narrative<br />21:18 The Power of Storytelling in Social Change<br />23:59 Building a More Inclusive Community<br />26:40 The Journey of Vote Common Good<br />29:46 Engaging in Meaningful Conversations<br />32:44 The Importance of Listening and Understanding<br />35:15 Finding Inspiration in Historical Movements<br />38:11 The Collective We: Expanding Our Understanding of Community<br />42:00 A Modern Good Samaritan Encounter<br />45:23 The Dilemmas of American Identity<br />48:26 Navigating Political Conversations in Faith Communities<br />56:34 The Complexity of Patriotism<br />01:01:34 Embracing Diversity in American Identity<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72814562</guid><pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 06:22:12 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72814562/riverside_radical_sacred_doug_radical_sacred.mp3" length="33216906" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Are you also feeling complex feelings about America, our history of violence as a country, our current fascist leadership, and our fear and hope for what’s to come this 4th of July? Join us as we talk to author, activist, musician and founder of Vote...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Are you also feeling complex feelings about America, our history of violence as a country, our current fascist leadership, and our fear and hope for what’s to come this 4th of July? Join us as we talk to author, activist, musician and founder of Vote Common Good Doug Paggit. Doug leads us through this honest conversation on working for change together, mourning all that’s been, and building an America we can all belong to. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.votecommongood.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vote Common Good</a></li><li><a href="https://dougpagitt.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Doug Pagitt</a></li><li><a href="https://katiegaddini.com/books" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Esther’s Army - Katie Giddini </a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/147907/let-america-be-america-again" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let America be America by Langston Hughes</a> </li><li><a href="https://whosthewe.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Documentary - Cross Country Bike Ride “Whose the We</a>”</li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Expansive view of Christianity and faith</li><li>The role of stories in shaping identity</li><li>Patriotism and its personal nature</li><li>The importance of community and inclusion</li><li>The intersection of faith and politics</li><li>Stories of connection across political divides</li><li>The history of America and its narratives</li><li>The work of Vote Common Good</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:50 Exploring Identity and Belonging in America<br />03:31 The Emergence of Progressive Christianity<br />06:43 The Divine Dance: Understanding Community and Theology<br />09:38 Navigating Political Identity and Faith<br />12:45 The Role of Ancestors and Mentorship in Activism<br />15:35 The Intersection of Faith and Politics<br />18:36 Reimagining the American Narrative<br />21:18 The Power of Storytelling in Social Change<br />23:59 Building a More Inclusive Community<br />26:40 The Journey of Vote Common Good<br />29:46 Engaging in Meaningful Conversations<br />32:44 The Importance of Listening and Understanding<br />35:15 Finding Inspiration in Historical Movements<br />38:11 The Collective We: Expanding Our Understanding of Community<br />42:00 A Modern Good Samaritan Encounter<br />45:23 The Dilemmas of American Identity<br />48:26 Navigating Political Conversations in Faith Communities<br />56:34 The Complexity of Patriotism<br />01:01:34 Embracing Diversity in American Identity<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4153</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>christianity,common,community,faith,good,inclusion,journey,movement,patriotism,politics,religious,spiritual,story,vote</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Season 3 Finale - Meandering and Meaning Making</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/season-3-finale-meandering-and-meaning-making--72766043</link><description><![CDATA[Thank you for joining us for our season 3 finale episode! We’ve had a lovely and winding 3rd season. We’ve chatted with authors, poets, scientists, naturalists, sex therapists, spiritual directors, artists and more to explore the true meaning of reciprocity. We end the season with reflection, presence, and connection. We invite you to join us over on Substack as we take a break from recording for the summer and to find us at Wild Goose Festival from September 4th-6th in Harmony North Carolina. We appreciate you dear listeners and will be back this fall with a new season, new stories, and new ways of exploring our sacred roots. It’s just the two of us here at Radical Sacred and it helps us out a lot when you rate and review the pod and share it with like minded folks! <br /><b><br />Show Notes: </b><br /><ul><li><b><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></b><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RadicalSacredPod/videos" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Youtube</a></li><li><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13GaIru24CzPIOccxfgPJ7d3Cr4b49eiP1Pkme_mRJes/edit" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefest.festivalpro.com/?showTemplate&amp;TML=artistPerformanceShows&amp;COMPANYID=52267" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred at Wild Goose</a></li><li><a href="https://www.radicalsacred.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Website</a></li><li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/stay-rooted-summer-2026/pl.u-qxylK2auXXAkqr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Sounds of Summer Playlist</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/our-lady-garden" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Our Lady of the Garden by Pádraig Ó Tuama</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics:</b><br /><ul><li>Reciprocity in nature and society</li><li>Systemic imbalance and economic exploitation</li><li>The role of creativity and community in social change</li><li>Environmental sustainability and water usage</li><li>The impact of wealth and inequality on society</li><li>Spiritual practices and inner reflection</li><li>The importance of vulnerability and honest community</li><li>Imagining a world beyond capitalism</li><li>The significance of joy and whimsy amidst chaos</li><li>The season's journey of inward and outward reflection</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:50 The Poetic Reflection on Life's Journey<br />01:56 Celebrating Season Three and Themes of Reciprocity<br />04:09 Exploring the Concept of Reciprocity<br />06:25 Reciprocity in Economic Systems and Social Services<br />09:15 The Impact of Wealth Disparity and Extraction Economy<br />10:59 Environmental Concerns and the Balance of Nature<br />13:03 The Call for Action and Collective Responsibility<br />15:13 Creativity and Individual Uniqueness in Challenging Times<br />20:37 Finding Joy Amidst Imbalance and Struggles<br />25:31 The Cycle of Life: Death and Renewal<br />28:45 Imagining a Better Future Through Creativity<br />33:26 Exploring Spirituality and Nature<br />37:46 The Power of Community and Reciprocity<br />41:06 Creative Collaboration and Vulnerability<br />46:09 Reflections on Meaningful Conversations<br />53:43 The Journey of Connection and Growth<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72766043</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2026 05:08:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72766043/riverside_jenny_phil_radical_sacred.mp3" length="27596609" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Thank you for joining us for our season 3 finale episode! We’ve had a lovely and winding 3rd season. We’ve chatted with authors, poets, scientists, naturalists, sex therapists, spiritual directors, artists and more to explore the true meaning of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Thank you for joining us for our season 3 finale episode! We’ve had a lovely and winding 3rd season. We’ve chatted with authors, poets, scientists, naturalists, sex therapists, spiritual directors, artists and more to explore the true meaning of reciprocity. We end the season with reflection, presence, and connection. We invite you to join us over on Substack as we take a break from recording for the summer and to find us at Wild Goose Festival from September 4th-6th in Harmony North Carolina. We appreciate you dear listeners and will be back this fall with a new season, new stories, and new ways of exploring our sacred roots. It’s just the two of us here at Radical Sacred and it helps us out a lot when you rate and review the pod and share it with like minded folks! <br /><b><br />Show Notes: </b><br /><ul><li><b><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></b><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RadicalSacredPod/videos" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Youtube</a></li><li><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/13GaIru24CzPIOccxfgPJ7d3Cr4b49eiP1Pkme_mRJes/edit" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefest.festivalpro.com/?showTemplate&amp;TML=artistPerformanceShows&amp;COMPANYID=52267" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred at Wild Goose</a></li><li><a href="https://www.radicalsacred.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Website</a></li><li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/stay-rooted-summer-2026/pl.u-qxylK2auXXAkqr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Sounds of Summer Playlist</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/our-lady-garden" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Our Lady of the Garden by Pádraig Ó Tuama</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics:</b><br /><ul><li>Reciprocity in nature and society</li><li>Systemic imbalance and economic exploitation</li><li>The role of creativity and community in social change</li><li>Environmental sustainability and water usage</li><li>The impact of wealth and inequality on society</li><li>Spiritual practices and inner reflection</li><li>The importance of vulnerability and honest community</li><li>Imagining a world beyond capitalism</li><li>The significance of joy and whimsy amidst chaos</li><li>The season's journey of inward and outward reflection</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:50 The Poetic Reflection on Life's Journey<br />01:56 Celebrating Season Three and Themes of Reciprocity<br />04:09 Exploring the Concept of Reciprocity<br />06:25 Reciprocity in Economic Systems and Social Services<br />09:15 The Impact of Wealth Disparity and Extraction Economy<br />10:59 Environmental Concerns and the Balance of Nature<br />13:03 The Call for Action and Collective Responsibility<br />15:13 Creativity and Individual Uniqueness in Challenging Times<br />20:37 Finding Joy Amidst Imbalance and Struggles<br />25:31 The Cycle of Life: Death and Renewal<br />28:45 Imagining a Better Future Through Creativity<br />33:26 Exploring Spirituality and Nature<br />37:46 The Power of Community and Reciprocity<br />41:06 Creative Collaboration and Vulnerability<br />46:09 Reflections on Meaningful Conversations<br />53:43 The Journey of Connection and Growth<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3450</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,creativity,environmental,finale,imbalance,justice,podcast,practices,reciprocity,season,social,spiritual,sustainability,systemic</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Walking the Path of Creativity with (Creative) Kate Thomas</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/walking-the-path-of-creativity-with-creative-kate-thomas--72659233</link><description><![CDATA[We go on an imaginative journey with Kate Thomas, a UX strategist, visual designer, and artist who lets curiosity guide her work and her life's path. Kate’s way of being is rooted in her deep spirituality, love of nature, and enjoying the wonder of every day. What can we learn about ourselves and the holiness that calls to us when we take time to listen to the quiet still voice within and to follow the sound of our own genuine? We invite you into creativity, yearning, and honoring your sacred time and your sacred self in this lovely episode with the lovely Creative Kate. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Figma</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sabrinawardharrison.info/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sabrina Ward Harrison</a></li><li><a href="https://www.artfarmannapolis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Art Farm</a> in Annapolis</li><li><a href="https://creativekate.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creative Kate Website</a></li><li>@thiscreativekate : check out her pinned post about creating pockets of hope</li><li><a href="https://nadiacolburn.com/mary-oliver-morning-poem/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morning Poem by Mary Oliver </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival</a> </li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Kate's journey from graphic design to UX and art coaching</li><li>The role of curiosity and play in creativity</li><li>Using art as a spiritual and self-discovery practice</li><li>The metaphor of compost and chaos in growth and renewal</li><li>The importance of boredom and silence in creativity</li><li>Connecting with nature and spiritual practices</li></ul>Chapters<br />00:30 Morning Reflections: The Power of Poetry<br />02:00 Introducing Kate Thomas: A Journey of Creativity<br />08:45 The Role of Art in Childhood and Self-Discovery<br />13:23 Curiosity as a Guiding Force<br />20:22 Listening to the Sound of the Genuine<br />22:30 Navigating Work-Life Balance and Creative Expression<br />30:16 Faith and Upbringing: The Roots of Creativity<br />34:56 The Importance of Boredom and Imagination<br />43:39 Finding Beauty in Chaos: The Compost Metaphor<br />49:13 Future Endeavors: Eco-Grief and Community Engagement<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72659233</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 05:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72659233/riverside_creative_kate_radical_sacred.mp3" length="25087600" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We go on an imaginative journey with Kate Thomas, a UX strategist, visual designer, and artist who lets curiosity guide her work and her life's path. Kate’s way of being is rooted in her deep spirituality, love of nature, and enjoying the wonder of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We go on an imaginative journey with Kate Thomas, a UX strategist, visual designer, and artist who lets curiosity guide her work and her life's path. Kate’s way of being is rooted in her deep spirituality, love of nature, and enjoying the wonder of every day. What can we learn about ourselves and the holiness that calls to us when we take time to listen to the quiet still voice within and to follow the sound of our own genuine? We invite you into creativity, yearning, and honoring your sacred time and your sacred self in this lovely episode with the lovely Creative Kate. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.figma.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Figma</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sabrinawardharrison.info/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sabrina Ward Harrison</a></li><li><a href="https://www.artfarmannapolis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Art Farm</a> in Annapolis</li><li><a href="https://creativekate.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creative Kate Website</a></li><li>@thiscreativekate : check out her pinned post about creating pockets of hope</li><li><a href="https://nadiacolburn.com/mary-oliver-morning-poem/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morning Poem by Mary Oliver </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival</a> </li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Kate's journey from graphic design to UX and art coaching</li><li>The role of curiosity and play in creativity</li><li>Using art as a spiritual and self-discovery practice</li><li>The metaphor of compost and chaos in growth and renewal</li><li>The importance of boredom and silence in creativity</li><li>Connecting with nature and spiritual practices</li></ul>Chapters<br />00:30 Morning Reflections: The Power of Poetry<br />02:00 Introducing Kate Thomas: A Journey of Creativity<br />08:45 The Role of Art in Childhood and Self-Discovery<br />13:23 Curiosity as a Guiding Force<br />20:22 Listening to the Sound of the Genuine<br />22:30 Navigating Work-Life Balance and Creative Expression<br />30:16 Faith and Upbringing: The Roots of Creativity<br />34:56 The Importance of Boredom and Imagination<br />43:39 Finding Beauty in Chaos: The Compost Metaphor<br />49:13 Future Endeavors: Eco-Grief and Community Engagement<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3136</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>art,community,create,creativity,curiosity,design,inspiration,mindfulness,nature,sacred,self-discovery,spirituality,ux</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. William H. Lamar on Ancestors, Stories, and Living Resurrection</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-william-h-lamar-on-ancestors-stories-and-living-resurrection--72616303</link><description><![CDATA[On this special Father’s Day episode of Radical Sacred we have the immense privilege of talking to Rev. William Lamar about his beautiful new book Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us. Rev. Lamar talks to us about the importance of intimately knowing and calling upon our ancestors, the perfect memory that water holds, how to listen to the still small voice within us, and the importance of silence, nature, and music. Sitting with Bill for this episode was a profound blessing and we always leave our time with him awake, aware, and more alive. We invite you to check out this fabulous episode and dive deep into the ancestors inviting you back to your truest selves. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506482217/Ancestors" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us by William Lamar </a></li><li><a href="https://www.metropolitaname.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC </a></li><li><a href="https://mixedauntie.substack.com/p/new-poem-i-am-my-ancestors" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">I am my Ancestors’ by TaRessa Stovall </a></li><li><a href="https://www.christiancentury.org/interviews/d-c-church-beat-proud-boys-court-now-owns-their-name" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The DC Church that beat the Proud Boys in Court now Owns Their Name</a></li></ul><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The biblical transfiguration story as a metaphor for ancestral engagement</li><li>Water as a symbol of perfect memory and spiritual renewal</li><li>The internal journey of self-discovery and internal cartography</li><li>The role of music and storytelling in connecting with ancestors</li><li>Resurrection as a cosmic and ecological process of renewal</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Legacy of Ancestors<br />02:56 Introduction to Reverend William H. Lamar IV<br />05:41 The Importance of Ancestors in Faith<br />07:29 Writing the Book: A Personal Journey<br />11:19 The Transfiguration and Ancestral Connections<br />16:00 Water as a Symbol of Memory<br />22:18 The Role of Music in Spiritual Life<br />28:05 Distraction and the Inner Music<br />33:16 Finding Connection in Nature<br />42:22 Bumping Into Oneself: The Inward Journey<br />47:06 The Role of Ancestors in Our Lives<br />54:56 Living Resurrection: A Poetic Invitation<br />01:05:44 Father's Day Reflections and Ancestral Connections<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72616303</guid><pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72616303/riverside_radical_sacred_bill_radical_sacred.mp3" length="34387818" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this special Father’s Day episode of Radical Sacred we have the immense privilege of talking to Rev. William Lamar about his beautiful new book Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us. Rev. Lamar talks to us about the importance of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this special Father’s Day episode of Radical Sacred we have the immense privilege of talking to Rev. William Lamar about his beautiful new book Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us. Rev. Lamar talks to us about the importance of intimately knowing and calling upon our ancestors, the perfect memory that water holds, how to listen to the still small voice within us, and the importance of silence, nature, and music. Sitting with Bill for this episode was a profound blessing and we always leave our time with him awake, aware, and more alive. We invite you to check out this fabulous episode and dive deep into the ancestors inviting you back to your truest selves. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506482217/Ancestors" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ancestors: Those who Bless us, Curse us, and Hold us by William Lamar </a></li><li><a href="https://www.metropolitaname.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Metropolitan African Methodist Episcopal Church in Washington, DC </a></li><li><a href="https://mixedauntie.substack.com/p/new-poem-i-am-my-ancestors" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">I am my Ancestors’ by TaRessa Stovall </a></li><li><a href="https://www.christiancentury.org/interviews/d-c-church-beat-proud-boys-court-now-owns-their-name" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The DC Church that beat the Proud Boys in Court now Owns Their Name</a></li></ul><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The biblical transfiguration story as a metaphor for ancestral engagement</li><li>Water as a symbol of perfect memory and spiritual renewal</li><li>The internal journey of self-discovery and internal cartography</li><li>The role of music and storytelling in connecting with ancestors</li><li>Resurrection as a cosmic and ecological process of renewal</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Legacy of Ancestors<br />02:56 Introduction to Reverend William H. Lamar IV<br />05:41 The Importance of Ancestors in Faith<br />07:29 Writing the Book: A Personal Journey<br />11:19 The Transfiguration and Ancestral Connections<br />16:00 Water as a Symbol of Memory<br />22:18 The Role of Music in Spiritual Life<br />28:05 Distraction and the Inner Music<br />33:16 Finding Connection in Nature<br />42:22 Bumping Into Oneself: The Inward Journey<br />47:06 The Role of Ancestors in Our Lives<br />54:56 Living Resurrection: A Poetic Invitation<br />01:05:44 Father's Day Reflections and Ancestral Connections<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4299</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ame,ancestors,biblical,christianity,cultural,faith,growth,heritage,inner,jesus,journey,memory,metropolitan,mythology,personal,reflection,resurrection,spirituality,stories,water</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Mary Fontana on Strangers in the Province of Joy</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/mary-fontana-on-strangers-in-the-province-of-joy--72556155</link><description><![CDATA[In this timely episode we visit with the author of Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border, Mary Fontana. While in college Mary began a 20+ year relationship with Annunciation House in El Paso which houses and provides care for migrants. This book is all about the important work of Annunciation House, its surprising and tender beginnings, and about the root causes that lead to people leaving their home countries. We talk about liberation theology, the United States complicity in the instability in Central America, and what we can all do to better love our neighbor as ourselves.  <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/strangers-in-the-province-of-joy-practicing-radical-hospitality-on-the-us-mexico-border?_pos=1&amp;_sid=237d24e53&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border </a></li><li><a href="https://maryfontana.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mary Fontana’s Website </a></li><li><a href="https://annunciationhouse.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Annunciation House </a></li><li><a href="https://www.joycewycoff.com/2020/04/poetry-month-19-daily-prayer-with.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Prayer of Shelter and Shadow by Pádraig ó Tuama</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics:</b><br /><ul><li>The origins and history of Annunciation House</li><li>The concept of radical hospitality and its importance</li><li>Root causes of migration including US foreign policy and climate change</li><li>The role of personal relationships and presence in service work</li><li>The intersection of faith, justice, and activism in immigration</li><li>The ongoing legal challenges faced by organizations like Annunciation House</li><li>The importance of education and awareness in changing perceptions</li><li>The spiritual and contemplative practices that sustain service work</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 A Prayer for Shelter and Community<br />02:35 Introducing Mary Fontana and Her Work<br />05:15 The Role of Annunciation House<br />10:02 Understanding Borders: Geographic and Internal<br />13:08 Migration as an Earth Right<br />17:52 Root Causes of Migration<br />22:07 Climate Change and Migration<br />26:51 The Politics of Immigration and Othering<br />31:39 Emergency Response and Human Connection<br />34:17 The Founders' Wisdom and Open-Heartedness<br />38:55 The Role of Contemplation in Service<br />43:56 Balancing Presence and Productivity<br />48:49 Justice and Mercy in Hospitality<br />52:10 Spreading Awareness Through Storytelling<br />54:15 Radical Hospitality Defined<br />58:57 Facing Political Challenges with Resilience<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72556155</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72556155/riverside_mary_jenny_phil_radical_sacred.mp3" length="29849827" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this timely episode we visit with the author of Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border, Mary Fontana. While in college Mary began a 20+ year relationship with Annunciation House in El Paso which...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this timely episode we visit with the author of Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border, Mary Fontana. While in college Mary began a 20+ year relationship with Annunciation House in El Paso which houses and provides care for migrants. This book is all about the important work of Annunciation House, its surprising and tender beginnings, and about the root causes that lead to people leaving their home countries. We talk about liberation theology, the United States complicity in the instability in Central America, and what we can all do to better love our neighbor as ourselves.  <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/strangers-in-the-province-of-joy-practicing-radical-hospitality-on-the-us-mexico-border?_pos=1&amp;_sid=237d24e53&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Strangers in the Province of Joy: Practicing Radical Hospitality at the US-Mexico Border </a></li><li><a href="https://maryfontana.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mary Fontana’s Website </a></li><li><a href="https://annunciationhouse.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Annunciation House </a></li><li><a href="https://www.joycewycoff.com/2020/04/poetry-month-19-daily-prayer-with.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Prayer of Shelter and Shadow by Pádraig ó Tuama</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics:</b><br /><ul><li>The origins and history of Annunciation House</li><li>The concept of radical hospitality and its importance</li><li>Root causes of migration including US foreign policy and climate change</li><li>The role of personal relationships and presence in service work</li><li>The intersection of faith, justice, and activism in immigration</li><li>The ongoing legal challenges faced by organizations like Annunciation House</li><li>The importance of education and awareness in changing perceptions</li><li>The spiritual and contemplative practices that sustain service work</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 A Prayer for Shelter and Community<br />02:35 Introducing Mary Fontana and Her Work<br />05:15 The Role of Annunciation House<br />10:02 Understanding Borders: Geographic and Internal<br />13:08 Migration as an Earth Right<br />17:52 Root Causes of Migration<br />22:07 Climate Change and Migration<br />26:51 The Politics of Immigration and Othering<br />31:39 Emergency Response and Human Connection<br />34:17 The Founders' Wisdom and Open-Heartedness<br />38:55 The Role of Contemplation in Service<br />43:56 Balancing Presence and Productivity<br />48:49 Justice and Mercy in Hospitality<br />52:10 Spreading Awareness Through Storytelling<br />54:15 Radical Hospitality Defined<br />58:57 Facing Political Challenges with Resilience<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3732</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>annunciation,border,change,climate,hospitality,house,human,humanrights,immigration,justice,migration,policy,radical,radicalsacred,reform,refugees,rights,social,us-mexico</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Encountering Henri Nouwen with Stephen Lazarus</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/encountering-henri-nouwen-with-stephen-lazarus--72430391</link><description><![CDATA[We enjoyed this fabulous conversation with Stephen Lazarus! Stephen is the Literary Manager for the Henri Nouwen Legacy Trust and the editor of Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen. We visit about how earnestly and honestly Henri Nouwen lived his life and how impactful and invitational his way of being was. We invite you to live fully and in the spirit of Henri today and everyday! “It is by being awake to God in us that we can increasingly see God in the world around us.” <br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li>Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen </li><li>Cardus NexGen program</li><li>Henry Nouwen Legacy Trust</li><li><a href="https://comment.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Comment Magazine</a></li><li>Robert and Margaret Jonas - <a href="https://revivingcreation.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reviving Creation</a></li></ul>Substack<br /><ul><li>Check out Jenny's weekly reflection on the episode on our <a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/p/its-not-the-weight-you-carry-but" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack</a>.</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Henry Nowen's impact on spiritual life</li><li>The concept of woundedness and healing</li><li>Divine invitations and unexpected encounters</li><li>Henry Nowen's influence on peacemaking and justice</li><li>The importance of authentic identity in faith</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Poetic Introduction to Love<br />02:38 Introducing Stephen Lazarus and His Journey<br />04:37 Encountering Henry Nowen: A Personal Connection<br />08:06 Who Was Henry Nowen?<br />10:04 The Humanity of Henry Nowen<br />16:00 Divine Invitations Through Henry's Work<br />20:47 The Communion of Saints and Connection to Ancestors<br />24:13 Contemplating Memories of Henry<br />28:47 Surprising Stories from the Book<br />30:37 Embracing Our Imperfections<br />34:25 Awakening to the Divine<br />34:59 The Meandering Path to Home<br />39:21 Engaging with the Common Good<br />43:55 Wounded vs. Broken: A Theological Perspective<br />49:03 Finding Identity in a Polarized World<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72430391</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72430391/riverside_stephen_lazrus_radical_sacred.mp3" length="26970506" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We enjoyed this fabulous conversation with Stephen Lazarus! Stephen is the Literary Manager for the Henri Nouwen Legacy Trust and the editor of Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen. We visit about how earnestly and honestly Henri...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We enjoyed this fabulous conversation with Stephen Lazarus! Stephen is the Literary Manager for the Henri Nouwen Legacy Trust and the editor of Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen. We visit about how earnestly and honestly Henri Nouwen lived his life and how impactful and invitational his way of being was. We invite you to live fully and in the spirit of Henri today and everyday! “It is by being awake to God in us that we can increasingly see God in the world around us.” <br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li>Encountering Henri: The Living Legacy of Henri Nouwen </li><li>Cardus NexGen program</li><li>Henry Nouwen Legacy Trust</li><li><a href="https://comment.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Comment Magazine</a></li><li>Robert and Margaret Jonas - <a href="https://revivingcreation.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reviving Creation</a></li></ul>Substack<br /><ul><li>Check out Jenny's weekly reflection on the episode on our <a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/p/its-not-the-weight-you-carry-but" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack</a>.</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Henry Nowen's impact on spiritual life</li><li>The concept of woundedness and healing</li><li>Divine invitations and unexpected encounters</li><li>Henry Nowen's influence on peacemaking and justice</li><li>The importance of authentic identity in faith</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Poetic Introduction to Love<br />02:38 Introducing Stephen Lazarus and His Journey<br />04:37 Encountering Henry Nowen: A Personal Connection<br />08:06 Who Was Henry Nowen?<br />10:04 The Humanity of Henry Nowen<br />16:00 Divine Invitations Through Henry's Work<br />20:47 The Communion of Saints and Connection to Ancestors<br />24:13 Contemplating Memories of Henry<br />28:47 Surprising Stories from the Book<br />30:37 Embracing Our Imperfections<br />34:25 Awakening to the Divine<br />34:59 The Meandering Path to Home<br />39:21 Engaging with the Common Good<br />43:55 Wounded vs. Broken: A Theological Perspective<br />49:03 Finding Identity in a Polarized World<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3372</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>christian,divine,faith,growth,healer,invitations,leadership,legacy,nowen,peacemaking,psychology,spiritual,wounded</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Paldrom Collins on Girl in a Box</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/paldrom-collins-on-girl-in-a-box--72298533</link><description><![CDATA[We had a lovely conversation with the author of Girl in a Box, Paldrom Collins! Paldrom’s memoir walks us through her early days as a young woman who is seeking her own path in Oklahoma to her time in a Tibetan Buddhist Monastery in New York. Paldrom’s path is winding, full of wisdom, compassion, and the most surprising twists and turns. We enjoyed this insightful and honest chat about following yearning and trusting self. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/Only-Breath" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Only Breath by Rumi</a></li><li><a href="http://paldrom.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">paldrom.com</a> </li><li><a href="https://paldrom.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Girl in a Box by: Paldrom Collins </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/how-worst-day-my-life-became-best" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How the Worst Day of My Life Became the Best by: Andrea Gibson </a></li></ul><b>Takeaways</b><br /><ul><li>Following your inner knowing can lead to unexpected paths and growth</li><li>Ritual and repetition serve as somatic practices that deepen spiritual awareness</li><li>Non-dualism emphasizes interconnectedness beyond dualistic thinking</li><li>Reciprocity is rooted in the natural interconnectedness of all life</li><li>Embracing resistance and difficulty can hone spiritual resilience</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 Transforming Pain into Art<br />02:36 The Journey of Becoming Findable<br />03:34 The Call to Write: A Spiritual Journey<br />06:59 Exploring Spiritual Backgrounds<br />09:23 The Meandering Path of Spirituality<br />12:46 Rituals and Repetition in Spiritual Practice<br />18:04 Interfaith Dialogues: Buddhism and Christianity<br />22:02 The Quest for Acceptance and Worthiness<br />26:11 Understanding Tibetan Buddhism's Teachings<br />30:34 Navigating Dualism and Non-Dualism<br />32:40 Reciprocity in Spiritual Journeys<br />34:39 The Knowing Beyond Knowing<br />37:23 Embracing the Unknown<br />42:22 Yearning and Creativity<br />45:12 Responding to Suffering in the World<br />47:31 The Ongoing Story of Life<br />51:04 Finding Shelter in Each Other's Stories<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72298533</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72298533/riverside_paldrom_jenny_phil_radical_sacred.mp3" length="25886947" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had a lovely conversation with the author of Girl in a Box, Paldrom Collins! Paldrom’s memoir walks us through her early days as a young woman who is seeking her own path in Oklahoma to her time in a Tibetan Buddhist Monastery in New York....</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had a lovely conversation with the author of Girl in a Box, Paldrom Collins! Paldrom’s memoir walks us through her early days as a young woman who is seeking her own path in Oklahoma to her time in a Tibetan Buddhist Monastery in New York. Paldrom’s path is winding, full of wisdom, compassion, and the most surprising twists and turns. We enjoyed this insightful and honest chat about following yearning and trusting self. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/Only-Breath" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Only Breath by Rumi</a></li><li><a href="http://paldrom.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">paldrom.com</a> </li><li><a href="https://paldrom.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Girl in a Box by: Paldrom Collins </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/how-worst-day-my-life-became-best" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How the Worst Day of My Life Became the Best by: Andrea Gibson </a></li></ul><b>Takeaways</b><br /><ul><li>Following your inner knowing can lead to unexpected paths and growth</li><li>Ritual and repetition serve as somatic practices that deepen spiritual awareness</li><li>Non-dualism emphasizes interconnectedness beyond dualistic thinking</li><li>Reciprocity is rooted in the natural interconnectedness of all life</li><li>Embracing resistance and difficulty can hone spiritual resilience</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 Transforming Pain into Art<br />02:36 The Journey of Becoming Findable<br />03:34 The Call to Write: A Spiritual Journey<br />06:59 Exploring Spiritual Backgrounds<br />09:23 The Meandering Path of Spirituality<br />12:46 Rituals and Repetition in Spiritual Practice<br />18:04 Interfaith Dialogues: Buddhism and Christianity<br />22:02 The Quest for Acceptance and Worthiness<br />26:11 Understanding Tibetan Buddhism's Teachings<br />30:34 Navigating Dualism and Non-Dualism<br />32:40 Reciprocity in Spiritual Journeys<br />34:39 The Knowing Beyond Knowing<br />37:23 Embracing the Unknown<br />42:22 Yearning and Creativity<br />45:12 Responding to Suffering in the World<br />47:31 The Ongoing Story of Life<br />51:04 Finding Shelter in Each Other's Stories<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3236</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>buddhism,enlightenment,inner,journey,meditation,mindfulness,non-dualism,paldrom,radical,reciprocity,ritual,sacred,spiritual,spirituality,tibetan,truth</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Day Schildkret on Morning Altars and the Importance of Ritual</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/day-schildkret-on-morning-altars-and-the-importance-of-ritual--72175660</link><description><![CDATA[This week our minds are blown and our hearts are expanded by Day Schildkret, author, artist and teacher behind the Morning Altars movement, who inspires tens of thousands of people to make life more beautiful and meaningful through ritual, nature and art. Day talks to us about ritual, meaning making, presence, beauty, remembering, curiosity and more in this gorgeous conversation.<br /><br /><b>Show Notes: </b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morning Altars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/shop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Day’s Books and Art</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/teachertraining24?utm_source=morningaltars.com&amp;utm_medium=navbar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teacher Training </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/morningaltars/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Day’s Instagram</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/workshops" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grief Ritual Series</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The origin story of Morning Altars and its healing modality</li><li>The role of thresholds and thresholds in personal transformation</li><li>The importance of meaning making and ritual in everyday life</li><li>Reciprocity and the back-and-forth of giving and receiving</li><li>The relationship between vulnerability, nature, and ritual</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Power of Ritual and Nature<br />01:44 Thresholds and Transitions in Life<br />10:32 Meaning Making Through Creativity<br />14:46 Rituals: Boundaries and Simplicity<br />18:21 Cultural Challenges to Rituals<br />22:12 Personal Journey with Rituals<br />23:48 Exploring Sacred Ground and Relationships<br />27:56 The Concept of Reciprocity in Rituals<br />32:35 Vulnerability and Connection with Nature<br />36:45 Grief and the Role of Ritual<br />41:30 Grief as an Invitation to Transformation<br />44:51 Creating Alternative Spaces in a Capitalist World<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72175660</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72175660/riverside_day_jenny_phil_radical_sacred.mp3" length="25159489" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week our minds are blown and our hearts are expanded by Day Schildkret, author, artist and teacher behind the Morning Altars movement, who inspires tens of thousands of people to make life more beautiful and meaningful through ritual, nature and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week our minds are blown and our hearts are expanded by Day Schildkret, author, artist and teacher behind the Morning Altars movement, who inspires tens of thousands of people to make life more beautiful and meaningful through ritual, nature and art. Day talks to us about ritual, meaning making, presence, beauty, remembering, curiosity and more in this gorgeous conversation.<br /><br /><b>Show Notes: </b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morning Altars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/shop" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Day’s Books and Art</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/teachertraining24?utm_source=morningaltars.com&amp;utm_medium=navbar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teacher Training </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/morningaltars/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Day’s Instagram</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.morningaltars.com/workshops" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grief Ritual Series</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The origin story of Morning Altars and its healing modality</li><li>The role of thresholds and thresholds in personal transformation</li><li>The importance of meaning making and ritual in everyday life</li><li>Reciprocity and the back-and-forth of giving and receiving</li><li>The relationship between vulnerability, nature, and ritual</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:30 The Power of Ritual and Nature<br />01:44 Thresholds and Transitions in Life<br />10:32 Meaning Making Through Creativity<br />14:46 Rituals: Boundaries and Simplicity<br />18:21 Cultural Challenges to Rituals<br />22:12 Personal Journey with Rituals<br />23:48 Exploring Sacred Ground and Relationships<br />27:56 The Concept of Reciprocity in Rituals<br />32:35 Vulnerability and Connection with Nature<br />36:45 Grief and the Role of Ritual<br />41:30 Grief as an Invitation to Transformation<br />44:51 Creating Alternative Spaces in a Capitalist World<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3145</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>altar,altars,art,grief,healing,making,meaning,morning,nature,radical,reciprocity,ritual,sacred,thresholds,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Erica Smith on the Purity Culture Recovery Guide</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/erica-smith-on-the-purity-culture-recovery-guide--72075923</link><description><![CDATA[Erica Smith, Sex Educator and author of the Purity Culture Recovery Guide joins us today on the pod! Erica’s invitational and open hearted writing explores the harms of Purity Culture and gives pathways to healing for those of us raised in it. Erica is a wealth of shame free sex information and this book is a must read for all people seeking a healthy, open hearted relationship to their bodies and their sexuality. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/purity-culture-recovery-guide-9798881801304/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Purity Culture Recovery Guide by Erica Smith </a></li><li>Linda Kay Klein <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Linda-Kay-Klein/545494983" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free</a></li><li>Netflix Documentary - <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Trust Me: The False Prophet</a></li><li><a href="http://purityculturedropout.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Purityculturedropout.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ericasmith.educates/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erica’s Instagram</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Impact of Purity Culture on Sexuality</li><li>Healing from Religious Shame</li><li>Sexual Rights and Autonomy</li><li>Creating Safe Spaces for Healing</li><li>Men's Group and Vulnerability</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:10 The Power of Love Poetry<br />02:45 Introducing Erica Smith: A Journey into Sex Education<br />04:30 From Casual Christianity to Sex Education<br />10:38 Understanding Purity Culture: A Deep Dive<br />13:00 The Impact of Purity Culture on Relationships<br />17:02 The Broader Effects of Purity Culture<br />20:52 Healing from Shame: The Purity Culture Dropout Program<br />27:24 Creating a Safe Space for Conversations<br />27:52 The Birth of the Purity Culture Recovery Guide<br />30:18 Responses to the Book: A Positive Reception<br />33:01 The Sexual Bill of Rights: Empowering Individuals<br />33:05 Understanding Sexual Rights and Respect<br />35:41 The Importance of Men's Groups<br />39:33 Exploring Vulnerability in Masculinity<br />43:41 Forgiveness and Healing in Masculinity<br />47:24 Inviting Others Out of Purity Culture<br />51:00 The Benefits of Healthy Sexuality<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72075923</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72075923/riverside_erica_smith_radical_sacred.mp3" length="27935155" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Erica Smith, Sex Educator and author of the Purity Culture Recovery Guide joins us today on the pod! Erica’s invitational and open hearted writing explores the harms of Purity Culture and gives pathways to healing for those of us raised in it. Erica...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Erica Smith, Sex Educator and author of the Purity Culture Recovery Guide joins us today on the pod! Erica’s invitational and open hearted writing explores the harms of Purity Culture and gives pathways to healing for those of us raised in it. Erica is a wealth of shame free sex information and this book is a must read for all people seeking a healthy, open hearted relationship to their bodies and their sexuality. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/purity-culture-recovery-guide-9798881801304/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Purity Culture Recovery Guide by Erica Smith </a></li><li>Linda Kay Klein <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Linda-Kay-Klein/545494983" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pure: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Shamed a Generation of Young Women and How I Broke Free</a></li><li>Netflix Documentary - <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81758532" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Trust Me: The False Prophet</a></li><li><a href="http://purityculturedropout.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Purityculturedropout.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/ericasmith.educates/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erica’s Instagram</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Impact of Purity Culture on Sexuality</li><li>Healing from Religious Shame</li><li>Sexual Rights and Autonomy</li><li>Creating Safe Spaces for Healing</li><li>Men's Group and Vulnerability</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:10 The Power of Love Poetry<br />02:45 Introducing Erica Smith: A Journey into Sex Education<br />04:30 From Casual Christianity to Sex Education<br />10:38 Understanding Purity Culture: A Deep Dive<br />13:00 The Impact of Purity Culture on Relationships<br />17:02 The Broader Effects of Purity Culture<br />20:52 Healing from Shame: The Purity Culture Dropout Program<br />27:24 Creating a Safe Space for Conversations<br />27:52 The Birth of the Purity Culture Recovery Guide<br />30:18 Responses to the Book: A Positive Reception<br />33:01 The Sexual Bill of Rights: Empowering Individuals<br />33:05 Understanding Sexual Rights and Respect<br />35:41 The Importance of Men's Groups<br />39:33 Exploring Vulnerability in Masculinity<br />43:41 Forgiveness and Healing in Masculinity<br />47:24 Inviting Others Out of Purity Culture<br />51:00 The Benefits of Healthy Sexuality<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3492</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>control,culture,education,group,heal,healing,healthy,high,purity,purityculture,recovery,religion,rights,sex,sexual,sexuality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Traumatized Church with Scot McKnight and Adrienne Gibson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/traumatized-church-with-scot-mcknight-and-adrienne-gibson--71985084</link><description><![CDATA[Fabulous time today visiting with authors Adrienne Gibson and Scot McKnight on their new book Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting. Adrienne brings the perspective of a licensed therapist and Scot the knowledge of a New Testament scholar and together they have written a really hopeful and informative book on trauma, the church, Paul and the Corinthians, and on individual and collective healing. A must listen for anyone working in the church or who loves the church! <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2017/11/02/meet-thecla-inspiring-model/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Paul and Thecla from 2nd century</a></li><li><a href="https://www.zondervan.com/p/traumatized-church/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Traumatized Church</a></li><li><a href="https://www.valorcounselingaz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Valor Counseling - Adrienne’s Practice in Mesa, Arizona </a></li><li><a href="https://scotmcknight.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scot Mcknight on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Scot-McKnight/author/B001IQZDNO?ref=ap_rdr&amp;shoppingPortalEnabled=true&amp;ccs_id=bf7d1213-a0fa-4d5c-9c24-41096248a1a7" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scot’s books</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Trauma in the church and its impact</li><li>Paul's vulnerability and trauma as a leader</li><li>Trauma-informed and trauma-sensitive church practices</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Peace of Wild Things<br />02:06 Introducing the Authors and Their Journey<br />09:31 Understanding Trauma<br />11:47 The Church as a Traumatic Space<br />15:45 Becoming Trauma-Informed<br />19:16 Transforming Pain: Insights from Paul and the Corinthians<br />27:57 Understanding Paul's Humanity<br />30:46 The Impact of Trauma on Leadership<br />35:47 The Role of Pastors in Modern Churches<br />41:34 Breaking the Cycle of Harm in Churches<br />45:25 The Importance of Trauma Awareness in Ministry<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71985084</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 05:20:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71985084/riverside_traumatized_church_radical_sacred.mp3" length="24736932" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Fabulous time today visiting with authors Adrienne Gibson and Scot McKnight on their new book Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting. Adrienne brings the perspective of a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Fabulous time today visiting with authors Adrienne Gibson and Scot McKnight on their new book Traumatized Church: What Paul's Relationship with the Corinthian Church Teaches Us About Helping Those Who are Hurting. Adrienne brings the perspective of a licensed therapist and Scot the knowledge of a New Testament scholar and together they have written a really hopeful and informative book on trauma, the church, Paul and the Corinthians, and on individual and collective healing. A must listen for anyone working in the church or who loves the church! <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.patheos.com/blogs/jesuscreed/2017/11/02/meet-thecla-inspiring-model/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Paul and Thecla from 2nd century</a></li><li><a href="https://www.zondervan.com/p/traumatized-church/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Traumatized Church</a></li><li><a href="https://www.valorcounselingaz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Valor Counseling - Adrienne’s Practice in Mesa, Arizona </a></li><li><a href="https://scotmcknight.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scot Mcknight on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Scot-McKnight/author/B001IQZDNO?ref=ap_rdr&amp;shoppingPortalEnabled=true&amp;ccs_id=bf7d1213-a0fa-4d5c-9c24-41096248a1a7" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scot’s books</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Trauma in the church and its impact</li><li>Paul's vulnerability and trauma as a leader</li><li>Trauma-informed and trauma-sensitive church practices</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Peace of Wild Things<br />02:06 Introducing the Authors and Their Journey<br />09:31 Understanding Trauma<br />11:47 The Church as a Traumatic Space<br />15:45 Becoming Trauma-Informed<br />19:16 Transforming Pain: Insights from Paul and the Corinthians<br />27:57 Understanding Paul's Humanity<br />30:46 The Impact of Trauma on Leadership<br />35:47 The Role of Pastors in Modern Churches<br />41:34 Breaking the Cycle of Harm in Churches<br />45:25 The Importance of Trauma Awareness in Ministry<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3093</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>care,church,growth,healing,health,leadership,mental,pastoral,paul,radicalsacred,sacred,spiritual,trauma,trauma-informed,vulnerability,wounds</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels on Sacred Conversations</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/victoria-loorz-and-valerie-luna-serrels-on-sacred-conversations--71882780</link><description><![CDATA[Today on the pod sisters, co-authors, and co-founders of Wild Church Network and The Center for Wild Spirituality Valerie Luna Serrels and Victoria Loorz join us in sacred conversation. In this lovely conversation we visit about unlearning patriarchal ways of being, the importance of deep noticing, the reemergence of reciprocal relationships with the human and more than human world, and the mycelial network that connects us all. This is such an important and expansive conversation for the wild times we find ourselves in! <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li>Margaret Wheatley - <a href="https://www.margaretwheatley.com/articles/emergence.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Using Emergence to Take Social Innovation to Scale</a></li><li><a href="https://noetic.org/profile/dean-radin/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dean Radin</a>, PhD - IONS</li><li><a href="https://www.focusfeatures.com/the-ai-doc-or-how-i-became-an-apocaloptimist" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-great-ai-unraveling-tristan-harris/id1643318607?i=1000763258264" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Great AI Unraveling</a>: Tristan Harris on Sounds of SAND</li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-holy-wild-with-victoria-loorz/id1799604110" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Holy Wild Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildchurchnetwork.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Church Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildchurchnetwork.com/online" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Church Online</a></li><li><a href="https://pollycastor.com/2024/07/24/why-i-should-hike-every-day-no-matter-what-poem-by-rosemerry-wahtola-trommer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Why I Should Hike Every Day No Matter What by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The roots and growth of the Center for Wild Spirituality and Wild Church Network</li><li>The paradigm shift towards interconnectedness and emergence in spirituality</li><li>The biomimicry and feminist principles guiding wild church structures</li><li>The role of love, love as awareness, and sacred reciprocity in transformation</li><li>Science and spirituality: understanding the impact of consciousness on the physical world</li><li>The importance of community, unlearning, and vulnerability in spiritual evolution</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Nature and Freedom<br />03:49 Introduction to the Wild Church Network<br />06:54 Roots of the Center for Wild Spirituality<br />09:42 Emergence and Community Building<br />12:32 Biomimicry and Networking<br />15:27 The Role of Feminine Leadership<br />18:37 The Importance of Listening and Awareness<br />21:25 Love and Change in the World<br />24:11 Worldview Shift and Sacred Reciprocity<br />27:24 Personal Journeys of Undoing<br />30:06 The Journey of Trust and Passion<br />36:42 Navigating Personal Struggles and Community Support<br />39:07 The Journey of Acceptance and Grief<br />43:45 Understanding Burnout and Resilience<br />47:28 The Sacredness of Life's Challenges<br />50:29 Awareness and Renewal in the Face of Grief<br />54:51 Emerging Futures and the Balance of Hope and Grief<br />58:47 Choosing Love Amidst Uncertainty<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71882780</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71882780/riverside_victoria_valerie_jen_03_radical_sacred.mp3" length="30774143" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today on the pod sisters, co-authors, and co-founders of Wild Church Network and The Center for Wild Spirituality Valerie Luna Serrels and Victoria Loorz join us in sacred conversation. In this lovely conversation we visit about unlearning patriarchal...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today on the pod sisters, co-authors, and co-founders of Wild Church Network and The Center for Wild Spirituality Valerie Luna Serrels and Victoria Loorz join us in sacred conversation. In this lovely conversation we visit about unlearning patriarchal ways of being, the importance of deep noticing, the reemergence of reciprocal relationships with the human and more than human world, and the mycelial network that connects us all. This is such an important and expansive conversation for the wild times we find ourselves in! <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li>Margaret Wheatley - <a href="https://www.margaretwheatley.com/articles/emergence.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Using Emergence to Take Social Innovation to Scale</a></li><li><a href="https://noetic.org/profile/dean-radin/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dean Radin</a>, PhD - IONS</li><li><a href="https://www.focusfeatures.com/the-ai-doc-or-how-i-became-an-apocaloptimist" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-great-ai-unraveling-tristan-harris/id1643318607?i=1000763258264" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Great AI Unraveling</a>: Tristan Harris on Sounds of SAND</li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-holy-wild-with-victoria-loorz/id1799604110" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Holy Wild Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildchurchnetwork.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Church Network</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildchurchnetwork.com/online" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Church Online</a></li><li><a href="https://pollycastor.com/2024/07/24/why-i-should-hike-every-day-no-matter-what-poem-by-rosemerry-wahtola-trommer/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Why I Should Hike Every Day No Matter What by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The roots and growth of the Center for Wild Spirituality and Wild Church Network</li><li>The paradigm shift towards interconnectedness and emergence in spirituality</li><li>The biomimicry and feminist principles guiding wild church structures</li><li>The role of love, love as awareness, and sacred reciprocity in transformation</li><li>Science and spirituality: understanding the impact of consciousness on the physical world</li><li>The importance of community, unlearning, and vulnerability in spiritual evolution</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Nature and Freedom<br />03:49 Introduction to the Wild Church Network<br />06:54 Roots of the Center for Wild Spirituality<br />09:42 Emergence and Community Building<br />12:32 Biomimicry and Networking<br />15:27 The Role of Feminine Leadership<br />18:37 The Importance of Listening and Awareness<br />21:25 Love and Change in the World<br />24:11 Worldview Shift and Sacred Reciprocity<br />27:24 Personal Journeys of Undoing<br />30:06 The Journey of Trust and Passion<br />36:42 Navigating Personal Struggles and Community Support<br />39:07 The Journey of Acceptance and Grief<br />43:45 Understanding Burnout and Resilience<br />47:28 The Sacredness of Life's Challenges<br />50:29 Awareness and Renewal in the Face of Grief<br />54:51 Emerging Futures and the Balance of Hope and Grief<br />58:47 Choosing Love Amidst Uncertainty<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3847</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>church,churchofthewild,community,edgewalker,emergence,faith,love,nature,reciprocity,renewal,sacred,seminary,spirituality,transformation,wild</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Everything is a Story with Kaitlin Curtice</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/everything-is-a-story-with-kaitlin-curtice--71721965</link><description><![CDATA[We were so honored to speak with the author of Everything is a Story Kaitlin Curtice! Kaitlin is a an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, public speaker, and enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation. Today she walks us through the importance of the stories we tell ourselves, rewriting the stories we’ve been told that we’ve outgrown, and telling new stories about community and connection to ourselves, to the land, and to one another. Join us as we dive deep this week into stories, imagination, and hope amidst collapse. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://kaitlincurtice.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Liminality Journal</a></li><li><a href="https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587436635_everything-is-a-story" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Everything is a Story</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kaitlincurtice/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kaitlin’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/101675/dont-bother-the-earth-spirit-who-lives-here" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Don’t Bother the Earth Spirit by: Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Takeaways</b><br /><ul><li>Stories are time capsules that evolve with us, reflecting our growth.</li><li>Grief is a sacred space that, when embraced, can lead to profound healing.</li><li>Imagination is a vital tool for envisioning a better world and living beyond our limitations.</li><li>Connecting with ancestors and the earth provides guidance and strength.</li><li>Healing stories require patience, presence, and a willingness to face discomfort.</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Storytelling<br />04:02 Childhood Narratives and Personal Growth<br />12:20 Healing Through Reflection and Connection<br />17:46 Catalysts for Change and Presence<br />23:51 Collective Stories and Community Healing<br />27:55 Healing Through Grief and Community<br />31:18 The Role of Imagination in Writing<br />36:07 Wisdom of Midlife Transitions<br />41:47 Navigating Edges: Pleasure, Risk, and Pain<br />47:35 Fear and Failure as Invitations<br />50:27 Claiming Words as Medicine<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71721965</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71721965/kaitlin_curtice_audio.mp3" length="54232883" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We were so honored to speak with the author of Everything is a Story Kaitlin Curtice! Kaitlin is a an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, public speaker, and enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation. Today she walks us through the importance of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We were so honored to speak with the author of Everything is a Story Kaitlin Curtice! Kaitlin is a an award-winning author, poet-storyteller, public speaker, and enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi nation. Today she walks us through the importance of the stories we tell ourselves, rewriting the stories we’ve been told that we’ve outgrown, and telling new stories about community and connection to ourselves, to the land, and to one another. Join us as we dive deep this week into stories, imagination, and hope amidst collapse. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://kaitlincurtice.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Liminality Journal</a></li><li><a href="https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587436635_everything-is-a-story" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Everything is a Story</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kaitlincurtice/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kaitlin’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/101675/dont-bother-the-earth-spirit-who-lives-here" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Don’t Bother the Earth Spirit by: Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Takeaways</b><br /><ul><li>Stories are time capsules that evolve with us, reflecting our growth.</li><li>Grief is a sacred space that, when embraced, can lead to profound healing.</li><li>Imagination is a vital tool for envisioning a better world and living beyond our limitations.</li><li>Connecting with ancestors and the earth provides guidance and strength.</li><li>Healing stories require patience, presence, and a willingness to face discomfort.</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Storytelling<br />04:02 Childhood Narratives and Personal Growth<br />12:20 Healing Through Reflection and Connection<br />17:46 Catalysts for Change and Presence<br />23:51 Collective Stories and Community Healing<br />27:55 Healing Through Grief and Community<br />31:18 The Role of Imagination in Writing<br />36:07 Wisdom of Midlife Transitions<br />41:47 Navigating Edges: Pleasure, Risk, and Pain<br />47:35 Fear and Failure as Invitations<br />50:27 Claiming Words as Medicine<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3390</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ancestors,collective,community,grief,growth,healing,imagination,indigenous,midlife,personal,stories,story,wisdom</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Dr. Andrea Adams on Hopecology</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/dr-andrea-adams-on-hopecology--71541749</link><description><![CDATA[Conservation ecologist and writer Dr. Andrea Adams joins us on the pod today! We chat about nature, spirituality, finding new pathways as life shifts in unexpected ways, and hope that's rooted in action during these uncertain times. Andrea brings depth, honesty, and reminders of nature's reciprocity and endless invitations in our conversation and through her lovely Substack Hopecology.<b> </b><br /><b><br />Show notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.andreajoyadams.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Andrea Adams Website </a></li><li><a href="https://andreajoyadams.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hopecology </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Yogi-Hindu-Reflection-Gospel/dp/0892816716" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christ the Yogi: A Hindu Reflection on the Gospel of John </a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/152103/how-dark-the-beginning" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Dark the Beginning by Maggie Smith </a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The role of hope in ecological and personal resilience</li><li>The intersection of science, spirituality, and indigenous knowledge</li><li>Transformative experiences and personal growth after trauma</li><li>The importance of doubt and humility in scientific practice</li><li>Practical actions for hope and care in ecology</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Dark and the Light: A Poetic Introduction<br />02:47 Introducing Dr. Andrea Adams: A Journey of Hope and Ecology<br />06:43 The Birth of Hopecology: From Trauma to Transformation<br />10:25 Spirituality and Personal Evolution: A Complex Relationship<br />18:37 Finding Hope Amidst Environmental Collapse<br />24:19 Transformation Through Adversity: Embracing the Roar<br />34:54 Embracing Your Strange Path<br />36:00 Navigating the Edges of Comfort<br />38:39 The Nature of Science and Intellectual Humility<br />46:28 Reciprocity Between Science and Spirituality<br />54:10 Hope as Action in Ecology<br />01:01:32 Learning from Nature: Biomimicry and Reciprocity<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71541749</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71541749/riverside_jenny_andrea_phil_apr_22_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="32859133" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Conservation ecologist and writer Dr. Andrea Adams joins us on the pod today! We chat about nature, spirituality, finding new pathways as life shifts in unexpected ways, and hope that's rooted in action during these uncertain times. Andrea brings...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Conservation ecologist and writer Dr. Andrea Adams joins us on the pod today! We chat about nature, spirituality, finding new pathways as life shifts in unexpected ways, and hope that's rooted in action during these uncertain times. Andrea brings depth, honesty, and reminders of nature's reciprocity and endless invitations in our conversation and through her lovely Substack Hopecology.<b> </b><br /><b><br />Show notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.andreajoyadams.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Andrea Adams Website </a></li><li><a href="https://andreajoyadams.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hopecology </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Yogi-Hindu-Reflection-Gospel/dp/0892816716" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christ the Yogi: A Hindu Reflection on the Gospel of John </a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/152103/how-dark-the-beginning" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Dark the Beginning by Maggie Smith </a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The role of hope in ecological and personal resilience</li><li>The intersection of science, spirituality, and indigenous knowledge</li><li>Transformative experiences and personal growth after trauma</li><li>The importance of doubt and humility in scientific practice</li><li>Practical actions for hope and care in ecology</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Dark and the Light: A Poetic Introduction<br />02:47 Introducing Dr. Andrea Adams: A Journey of Hope and Ecology<br />06:43 The Birth of Hopecology: From Trauma to Transformation<br />10:25 Spirituality and Personal Evolution: A Complex Relationship<br />18:37 Finding Hope Amidst Environmental Collapse<br />24:19 Transformation Through Adversity: Embracing the Roar<br />34:54 Embracing Your Strange Path<br />36:00 Navigating the Edges of Comfort<br />38:39 The Nature of Science and Intellectual Humility<br />46:28 Reciprocity Between Science and Spirituality<br />54:10 Hope as Action in Ecology<br />01:01:32 Learning from Nature: Biomimicry and Reciprocity<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4108</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>biodiversity,church,conservation,doubt,ecology,faith,hope,hopecology,loss,personal,reciprocity,resilience,science,scientific,spirituality,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Cheers to 100 Episodes of Staying Rooted!</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/cheers-to-100-episodes-of-staying-rooted--71333670</link><description><![CDATA[Today is Radical Sacred’s 100th Episode! Hard to believe we’ve spent 100 hours conversing with artists, theologians, poets, authors, naturalists and more over the past 2.5 years. Each conversation has been a joy and has served as an invitation to a deeper knowing of self and the world around us. Friend of the pod Melissa Fritchle who is a Holistic Psychotherapist and Spiritual Counselor, a Wild guide with Center for Wild Spirituality and co-founder of Intimate with the Moon and Soil and the author of The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook and the substack Soul Entwined with Earth, interviews us about all the lovely inner workings of Radical Sacred. We loved talking with her about intimacy, our hopes, our roots, and more in this special episode. Thank you for listening to us, for journeying with us, and for your support! There is no Radical Sacred without our community of listeners and friends and we are grateful for you! <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.radicalsacred.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RadicalSacredPod" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Youtube</a></li><li><a href="http://www.embody-connect.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa Fritchle’s Website</a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://intimate-with-the-moon-and-soil.mn.co/landing/?autojoin=1&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=substack" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Intimate with the Moon and Soil - Melissa’s new venture!</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/friendship-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Friendship by Khalil Gibran</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The origin of the podcast and its focus on deep, rooted conversations</li><li>The importance of vulnerability and authenticity in spiritual spaces</li><li>The role of nature and interconnectedness in personal growth</li></ul><br /><br /><b></b><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Friendship<br />02:31 Celebrating 100 Episodes<br />05:36 The Journey of Radical Sacred<br />13:03 The Dynamics of Friendship<br />17:02 Vulnerability in Conversations<br />30:47 Transformative Beliefs and Worldviews<br />35:12 The Journey of Transformation<br />35:59 Attention and Intention in Pilgrimage<br />37:34 Memorable Conversations and Surprising Insights<br />39:07 The Impact of Connections and Community<br />40:59 Navigating Change and Personal Growth<br />42:44 The Role of Community in Times of Crisis<br />44:18 Interconnectedness and Collective Hope<br />47:34 Radical Sacred: Embracing Change<br />53:19 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations and Themes<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71333670</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71333670/riverside_melissa_jenny_phil_apr_14_2026_015_radical_sacred.mp3" length="30551580" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today is Radical Sacred’s 100th Episode! Hard to believe we’ve spent 100 hours conversing with artists, theologians, poets, authors, naturalists and more over the past 2.5 years. Each conversation has been a joy and has served as an invitation to a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today is Radical Sacred’s 100th Episode! Hard to believe we’ve spent 100 hours conversing with artists, theologians, poets, authors, naturalists and more over the past 2.5 years. Each conversation has been a joy and has served as an invitation to a deeper knowing of self and the world around us. Friend of the pod Melissa Fritchle who is a Holistic Psychotherapist and Spiritual Counselor, a Wild guide with Center for Wild Spirituality and co-founder of Intimate with the Moon and Soil and the author of The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook and the substack Soul Entwined with Earth, interviews us about all the lovely inner workings of Radical Sacred. We loved talking with her about intimacy, our hopes, our roots, and more in this special episode. Thank you for listening to us, for journeying with us, and for your support! There is no Radical Sacred without our community of listeners and friends and we are grateful for you! <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.radicalsacred.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@RadicalSacredPod" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred on Youtube</a></li><li><a href="http://www.embody-connect.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa Fritchle’s Website</a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://intimate-with-the-moon-and-soil.mn.co/landing/?autojoin=1&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_source=substack" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Intimate with the Moon and Soil - Melissa’s new venture!</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/friendship-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Friendship by Khalil Gibran</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The origin of the podcast and its focus on deep, rooted conversations</li><li>The importance of vulnerability and authenticity in spiritual spaces</li><li>The role of nature and interconnectedness in personal growth</li></ul><br /><br /><b></b><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Friendship<br />02:31 Celebrating 100 Episodes<br />05:36 The Journey of Radical Sacred<br />13:03 The Dynamics of Friendship<br />17:02 Vulnerability in Conversations<br />30:47 Transformative Beliefs and Worldviews<br />35:12 The Journey of Transformation<br />35:59 Attention and Intention in Pilgrimage<br />37:34 Memorable Conversations and Surprising Insights<br />39:07 The Impact of Connections and Community<br />40:59 Navigating Change and Personal Growth<br />42:44 The Role of Community in Times of Crisis<br />44:18 Interconnectedness and Collective Hope<br />47:34 Radical Sacred: Embracing Change<br />53:19 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations and Themes<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3819</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,friendship,growth,holy,interconnectedness,intimacy,nature,pilgrimage,podcast,radical,rooted,roots,sacred,sacredness,spirituality,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Liberative Ecology with Holy Wisdom Monastery</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/liberative-ecology-with-holy-wisdom-monastery--71140024</link><description><![CDATA[Today we are blessed to chat with Sister Lynne Smith, Amy Alstad, Everline Jeruto, and Mary David Walgenbach of Holy Wisdom Monastery of Madison, Wisconsin. Holy Wisdom is an Ecumenical Benedictine Community that is known for their land restoration, love of the earth, and love of all people. We chat about restoration of land, reciprocity in the natural world, deep connections, and welcoming humans and the more than human world as if they were Christ. We were so inspired by the work of Holy Wisdom and know you will be too!<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://holywisdommonastery.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Holy Wisdom Monastery</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/holywisdommonastery/?fref=ts" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/holywisdommonastery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/holywisdommonastery" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://holywisdommonastery.org/monastery-without-walls/streaming/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Midday Prayer Stream</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fws.gov/species/regal-fritillary-speyeria-idalia" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Regal Fritillary Butterfly</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.mavismoon.com/blog/how-would-you-live-then" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Would You Live Then by: Mary Oliver</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Ecumenical Benedictine community</li><li>Land restoration and prairie planting</li><li>Ecological listening and biomimicry</li><li>Community, justice, and hospitality</li><li>Renewable energy and net zero goals</li></ul><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />01:00 The Beauty of Nature and Reflection<br />02:01 Introduction to Holy Wisdom Monastery<br />05:25 The Heartbeat of Holy Wisdom Monastery<br />13:04 Listening to the Land<br />19:09 Towards a Sustainable Future<br />21:02 Funding and Community Engagement<br />22:51 Welcoming All: A Benedictine Approach<br />26:19 Restoration and Ecological Hospitality<br />33:05 Modeling Community and Reciprocity<br />40:39 Cultural Exchange and Learning<br />43:40 Finding Joy in Nature<br />47:58 Retreats: A Space for Reflection<br />51:28 Hopes for the Future<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71140024</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71140024/riverside_jenny_everline_siste_apr_06_2026_001_radical_sacred_1.mp3" length="30049820" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today we are blessed to chat with Sister Lynne Smith, Amy Alstad, Everline Jeruto, and Mary David Walgenbach of Holy Wisdom Monastery of Madison, Wisconsin. Holy Wisdom is an Ecumenical Benedictine Community that is known for their land restoration,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today we are blessed to chat with Sister Lynne Smith, Amy Alstad, Everline Jeruto, and Mary David Walgenbach of Holy Wisdom Monastery of Madison, Wisconsin. Holy Wisdom is an Ecumenical Benedictine Community that is known for their land restoration, love of the earth, and love of all people. We chat about restoration of land, reciprocity in the natural world, deep connections, and welcoming humans and the more than human world as if they were Christ. We were so inspired by the work of Holy Wisdom and know you will be too!<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://holywisdommonastery.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Holy Wisdom Monastery</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/holywisdommonastery/?fref=ts" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/holywisdommonastery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/holywisdommonastery" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">YouTube</a></li><li><a href="https://holywisdommonastery.org/monastery-without-walls/streaming/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Midday Prayer Stream</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fws.gov/species/regal-fritillary-speyeria-idalia" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Regal Fritillary Butterfly</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.mavismoon.com/blog/how-would-you-live-then" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Would You Live Then by: Mary Oliver</a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Ecumenical Benedictine community</li><li>Land restoration and prairie planting</li><li>Ecological listening and biomimicry</li><li>Community, justice, and hospitality</li><li>Renewable energy and net zero goals</li></ul><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />01:00 The Beauty of Nature and Reflection<br />02:01 Introduction to Holy Wisdom Monastery<br />05:25 The Heartbeat of Holy Wisdom Monastery<br />13:04 Listening to the Land<br />19:09 Towards a Sustainable Future<br />21:02 Funding and Community Engagement<br />22:51 Welcoming All: A Benedictine Approach<br />26:19 Restoration and Ecological Hospitality<br />33:05 Modeling Community and Reciprocity<br />40:39 Cultural Exchange and Learning<br />43:40 Finding Joy in Nature<br />47:58 Retreats: A Space for Reflection<br />51:28 Hopes for the Future<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3757</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>action,aid,benedictine,biomimicry,building,climate,community,ecological,ecumenical,holy,justice,land,monastery,mutual,nature,prairie,restoration,sacred,spirituality,wisdom</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. Dr. Shively Smith on the Wisdom of Howard Thurman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-dr-shively-smith-on-the-wisdom-of-howard-thurman--71035132</link><description><![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Shively Smith joins us on the pod today! Shively is a professor, author, speaker, lover of water, mom, and avid gamer who visits with us about Howard Thurman, the new testament, guides, ancestors, listening to the small voice within and much more. Join us as we learn to navigate all that is before us and walk that strange path that leads us to our truest selves. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.fisk.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fisk University</a></li><li><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Meditations-of-the-Heart-P1864.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman - Meditations of the Heart</a></li><li><a href="https://news.emory.edu/stories/2017/11/upress_candler_ellison_fearless_dialogues/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greg Ellison - Anchors in the Spirit and Fearless Dialogues</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Head-Heart-Autobiography-Howard-Thurman/dp/015697648X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman - With Head and Heart</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Just-Sister-Away-Womanist-Relationships/dp/0931055520" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Renita J. Weems - Just a Sister Away: A Womanist Vision of Women’s Relationships in the Bible</a></li><li><a href="https://www.baylorpress.com/9781481305488/strangers-to-family/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shively Smith - Strangers to Family: Diaspora and 1 Peter’s Invention of God’s Household</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unionboston.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Union Combined Parish</a> - Boston, MA</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Reading-Howard-Thurman-Practice-Interpretation/dp/1506493807" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shively Smith - Reading Howard Thurman: His Practice of Interpretation Through Womanist Eyes</a></li><li><a href="http://imagesofinterpreation.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Imagesofinterpreation.com</a> </li><li><a href="http://shivelysmith.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">shivelysmith.com</a> </li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Water as a spiritual practice and source of clarity</li><li>Howard Thurman's influence on faith and justice</li><li>The role of biblical interpretation in social justice</li><li>The significance of the unnamed in biblical stories</li><li>Courage and openness in encountering guides and strangers</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Grief and Nature's Call<br />03:01 Introducing Shively Smith: Scholar and Gamer<br />08:11 The Significance of Water in Spirituality<br />11:37 Howard Thurman: A Personal Connection<br />15:14 Thurman's Integration of Inner and Outer Life<br />19:42 The Journey of a Biblical Scholar<br />25:48 The Role of Mentorship and Ancestral Guidance<br />32:12 Courage in Divided Times<br />34:22 The Journey to New Testament Scholarship<br />38:52 Engaging with First Peter<br />41:48 Interpreting Biblical Texts Through a Modern Lens<br />48:15 From Mercy to Justice<br />55:04 The Art of Interpretation and Awakening<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71035132</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71035132/riverside_shively_jenny_phil_apr_01_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="29695809" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Rev. Dr. Shively Smith joins us on the pod today! Shively is a professor, author, speaker, lover of water, mom, and avid gamer who visits with us about Howard Thurman, the new testament, guides, ancestors, listening to the small voice within and much...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Shively Smith joins us on the pod today! Shively is a professor, author, speaker, lover of water, mom, and avid gamer who visits with us about Howard Thurman, the new testament, guides, ancestors, listening to the small voice within and much more. Join us as we learn to navigate all that is before us and walk that strange path that leads us to our truest selves. <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.fisk.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fisk University</a></li><li><a href="https://www.beacon.org/Meditations-of-the-Heart-P1864.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman - Meditations of the Heart</a></li><li><a href="https://news.emory.edu/stories/2017/11/upress_candler_ellison_fearless_dialogues/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greg Ellison - Anchors in the Spirit and Fearless Dialogues</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Head-Heart-Autobiography-Howard-Thurman/dp/015697648X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman - With Head and Heart</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Just-Sister-Away-Womanist-Relationships/dp/0931055520" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Renita J. Weems - Just a Sister Away: A Womanist Vision of Women’s Relationships in the Bible</a></li><li><a href="https://www.baylorpress.com/9781481305488/strangers-to-family/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shively Smith - Strangers to Family: Diaspora and 1 Peter’s Invention of God’s Household</a></li><li><a href="https://www.unionboston.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Union Combined Parish</a> - Boston, MA</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/Reading-Howard-Thurman-Practice-Interpretation/dp/1506493807" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shively Smith - Reading Howard Thurman: His Practice of Interpretation Through Womanist Eyes</a></li><li><a href="http://imagesofinterpreation.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Imagesofinterpreation.com</a> </li><li><a href="http://shivelysmith.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">shivelysmith.com</a> </li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Water as a spiritual practice and source of clarity</li><li>Howard Thurman's influence on faith and justice</li><li>The role of biblical interpretation in social justice</li><li>The significance of the unnamed in biblical stories</li><li>Courage and openness in encountering guides and strangers</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Grief and Nature's Call<br />03:01 Introducing Shively Smith: Scholar and Gamer<br />08:11 The Significance of Water in Spirituality<br />11:37 Howard Thurman: A Personal Connection<br />15:14 Thurman's Integration of Inner and Outer Life<br />19:42 The Journey of a Biblical Scholar<br />25:48 The Role of Mentorship and Ancestral Guidance<br />32:12 Courage in Divided Times<br />34:22 The Journey to New Testament Scholarship<br />38:52 Engaging with First Peter<br />41:48 Interpreting Biblical Texts Through a Modern Lens<br />48:15 From Mercy to Justice<br />55:04 The Art of Interpretation and Awakening<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3712</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>biblical,courage,diaspora,faith,howard,howardthurman,interpretation,journey,justice,mystic,practice,scholars,shively,shivelysmith,social,spiritual,spirituality,thurman,water</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Moving in the World with the Intention to Love with David Dault</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/moving-in-the-world-with-the-intention-to-love-with-david-dault--70861875</link><description><![CDATA[Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which includes beautiful passages on James Baldwin, loving with intention, bringing our own moral lens to the bible, and more! This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We are grateful for David and his invitation to look more in depth: at our own souls, at the ways we interpret the bible, and at the ways we connect to others.  <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://daviddault.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - David Dault is writing things</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300289374/the-accessorized-bible/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Accessorized Bible </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/francis-effect-podcast/id1282044181" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Francis Effect Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thingsnotseenradio.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith</a></li><li><a href="https://www.luc.edu/ips/about/faculty/profiles/daviddaultphd.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">David at Loyola University </a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/st-anthony-messenger/justice-within-gods-kingdom/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Karl Rahner banana essay - Theology of Freedom</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Place" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Good Place</a></li><li><a href="https://grattoncourses.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/hannah-arendt-on-violence-harcourt-brace-jovanovich-1969.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hannah Arendt - On Violence</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordslikesilver.com/articles/the-octopus-poem-i-love-so-much" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">An Octopus has Three Whole Hearts by: Joy Sullivan </a></li></ul><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The metaphor of the Bible as an accessory versus a rulebook</li><li>The importance of moral seriousness and slow reflection</li><li>The concept of takun olam (repairing the world)</li><li>The role of love and responsiveness in faith and relationships</li><li>The impact of technology on empathy and storytelling</li></ul><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />01:00 The Heart of an Octopus: A Poetic Introduction<br />02:01 David Dalt: A Multifaceted Journey<br />03:00 The Evolution of a Career: From Music to Academia<br />05:59 Things Not Seen: Conversations on Culture and Faith<br />10:44 Navigating Faith in a Polarized World<br />14:45 The Bible: A Tool for Good or Evil?<br />20:10 The Accessorized Bible: Purpose and Timing<br />26:17 Moral Seriousness: Slowing Down to Reflect<br />30:52 Technology and Its Ethical Implications<br />32:02 Exploring Technology and Power Dynamics<br />34:32 The Role of Narrative in Repairing the World<br />37:43 The Impact of Technology on Empathy<br />38:56 Transcending Technique in Art and Life<br />43:22 The Bible: A Source of Questions and Insights<br />47:14 Influences and Ancestry in Thought<br />51:49 Catastrophic Love and Institutional Challenges<br />59:30 The Intention to Love in Relationships<br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70861875</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2026 05:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70861875/riverside_david_jenny_phil_mar_24_2026_003_radical_sacred.mp3" length="32394780" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today we are joined by David Dault as we dive into his new book The Accessorized Bible. David is an author, professor at Loyola University, award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, podcaster and radio host. We chat about his book which includes beautiful passages on James Baldwin, loving with intention, bringing our own moral lens to the bible, and more! This is a fascinating and wide-ranging conversation. We are grateful for David and his invitation to look more in depth: at our own souls, at the ways we interpret the bible, and at the ways we connect to others.  <b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://daviddault.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - David Dault is writing things</a></li><li><a href="https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300289374/the-accessorized-bible/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Accessorized Bible </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/francis-effect-podcast/id1282044181" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Francis Effect Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thingsnotseenradio.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Things Not Seen: Conversations About Culture and Faith</a></li><li><a href="https://www.luc.edu/ips/about/faculty/profiles/daviddaultphd.shtml" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">David at Loyola University </a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/st-anthony-messenger/justice-within-gods-kingdom/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Karl Rahner banana essay - Theology of Freedom</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Place" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Good Place</a></li><li><a href="https://grattoncourses.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/hannah-arendt-on-violence-harcourt-brace-jovanovich-1969.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hannah Arendt - On Violence</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordslikesilver.com/articles/the-octopus-poem-i-love-so-much" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">An Octopus has Three Whole Hearts by: Joy Sullivan </a></li></ul><br /><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>The metaphor of the Bible as an accessory versus a rulebook</li><li>The importance of moral seriousness and slow reflection</li><li>The concept of takun olam (repairing the world)</li><li>The role of love and responsiveness in faith and relationships</li><li>The impact of technology on empathy and storytelling</li></ul><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />01:00 The Heart of an Octopus: A Poetic Introduction<br />02:01 David Dalt: A Multifaceted Journey<br />03:00 The Evolution of a Career: From Music to Academia<br />05:59 Things Not Seen: Conversations on Culture and Faith<br />10:44 Navigating Faith in a Polarized World<br />14:45 The Bible: A Tool for Good or Evil?<br />20:10 The Accessorized Bible: Purpose and Timing<br />26:17 Moral Seriousness: Slowing Down to Reflect<br />30:52 Technology and Its Ethical Implications<br />32:02 Exploring Technology and Power Dynamics<br />34:32 The Role of Narrative in Repairing the World<br />37:43 The Impact of Technology on Empathy<br />38:56 Transcending Technique in Art and Life<br />43:22 The Bible: A Source of Questions and Insights<br />47:14 Influences and Ancestry in Thought<br />51:49 Catastrophic Love and Institutional Challenges<br />59:30 The Intention to Love in Relationships<br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4050</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>action,bible,catholic,culture,diversity,faith,inclusion,interpretation,jesuit,justice,love,media,moral,radical,reflection,religious,seriousness,social,spiritual,theological</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Jim Keat on the Intimacy of Online Connections</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/jim-keat-on-the-intimacy-of-online-connections--70706368</link><description><![CDATA[Rev. Jim Keat of The Riverside Church joins us this week to talk about creating intimate spaces and reciprocal relationships online. Jim is a runner, digital creator and pastor who views the internet as a vast opportunity for connection, care, and transformation. This conversation is a lovely reminder of the power of community on site or online. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.trcnyc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Riverside Church</a></li><li><a href="http://jimkeat.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">jimkeat.com</a></li><li><a href="https://convergenceus.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Convergence Network </a></li><li><a href="http://revjimruns" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@revjimruns</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFcF522N5nEBCyzUBvQlazvFDNqX7VTFQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bible in a Minute</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@jimkeat?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jim’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.prisonradio.org/commentary/affirmations/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Imagination by Assata Shakur </a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Embodiment in digital spaces</li><li>Creating intimacy online</li><li>Navigating online critique and negativity</li><li>Ethics of technology in faith communities</li><li>Building reciprocal relationships in digital spaces</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Belief and Affirmation<br />02:32 Introducing Jim Keat: Digital Ministry Innovator<br />04:05 Navigating Digital Spaces in Ministry<br />05:42 Redefining Digital vs. Physical Experiences<br />10:12 Creating Intimate Online Spaces for Ministry<br />12:03 Fostering Connection in Digital Gatherings<br />15:12 Mindfulness and Running: A Personal Journey<br />18:05 Nature's Lessons for Digital Engagement<br />20:07 Noticing the Present: A Mindful Approach<br />24:03 Inhabiting Spaces: The Contrast of City and Small Town<br />26:28 Navigating Progressive Faith in Small Towns<br />30:03 Creating a Liberative Church Experience<br />31:33 Handling Online Critiques and Community Engagement<br />35:07 The Role of Technology in Building Relationships<br />38:33 Experiencing Reciprocity in Digital Spaces<br />43:17 Ethics of Technology and Digital Ministry<br />49:12 Addressing Global Issues and Personal Heartbreak<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70706368</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70706368/riverside_jim_jenny_phil_mar_15_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="25622796" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jim Keat of The Riverside Church joins us this week to talk about creating intimate spaces and reciprocal relationships online. Jim is a runner, digital creator and pastor who views the internet as a vast opportunity for connection, care, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Rev. Jim Keat of The Riverside Church joins us this week to talk about creating intimate spaces and reciprocal relationships online. Jim is a runner, digital creator and pastor who views the internet as a vast opportunity for connection, care, and transformation. This conversation is a lovely reminder of the power of community on site or online. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.trcnyc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Riverside Church</a></li><li><a href="http://jimkeat.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">jimkeat.com</a></li><li><a href="https://convergenceus.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Convergence Network </a></li><li><a href="http://revjimruns" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@revjimruns</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFcF522N5nEBCyzUBvQlazvFDNqX7VTFQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bible in a Minute</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@jimkeat?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jim’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.prisonradio.org/commentary/affirmations/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Imagination by Assata Shakur </a></li></ul><b>Key Topics</b><br /><ul><li>Embodiment in digital spaces</li><li>Creating intimacy online</li><li>Navigating online critique and negativity</li><li>Ethics of technology in faith communities</li><li>Building reciprocal relationships in digital spaces</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Belief and Affirmation<br />02:32 Introducing Jim Keat: Digital Ministry Innovator<br />04:05 Navigating Digital Spaces in Ministry<br />05:42 Redefining Digital vs. Physical Experiences<br />10:12 Creating Intimate Online Spaces for Ministry<br />12:03 Fostering Connection in Digital Gatherings<br />15:12 Mindfulness and Running: A Personal Journey<br />18:05 Nature's Lessons for Digital Engagement<br />20:07 Noticing the Present: A Mindful Approach<br />24:03 Inhabiting Spaces: The Contrast of City and Small Town<br />26:28 Navigating Progressive Faith in Small Towns<br />30:03 Creating a Liberative Church Experience<br />31:33 Handling Online Critiques and Community Engagement<br />35:07 The Role of Technology in Building Relationships<br />38:33 Experiencing Reciprocity in Digital Spaces<br />43:17 Ethics of Technology and Digital Ministry<br />49:12 Addressing Global Issues and Personal Heartbreak<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3203</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>building,communities,community,digital,embodied,ethics,faith,hybrid,innovation,intimacy,media,ministry,online,progressive,progressivechristianity,riverside,social,spirituality,technology,worship</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Christine Tracy on Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/christine-tracy-on-just-trust-life-a-journey-with-teilhard-de-chardin--70584408</link><description><![CDATA[We had the loveliest of conversations with writer, journalist, and rhetorician, Christine Tracy on her new book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin. Her book and our conversation are about Teilhard, but are both also deeply rooted in how he became a guide and a north star for Christine as she goes on a transcendent journey to find her truest self. What can we learn by letting go of fear and shame and learning to just trust life? We hope Teilhard and Christine inspire you to look within, to trust self, and to transcend. All you need is already within you. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="http://justtrustlife.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christine's Website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.justtrustlife.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin by: Christine Tracy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.teilhardproject.com/collaborators/scholars/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teilhard Project Scholars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.peterlang.com/document/1109052" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Newsphere by: Christine Tracy</a></li><li><a href="https://risdmuseum.org/art-design/collection/summer-13912" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summer by Frank Weston Benson</a></li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.efaa.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Emergency Family Assistance Association</a> in Boulder </li><li><a href="https://ahundredfallingveils.com/2023/08/05/wilding/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wilding by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer</a></li></ul><br />Questions to consider:<br /><ol><li>How can embracing your inner wildness lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life? Reflect on moments when you felt most connected to your truest self and consider how you can incorporate more of these experiences into your daily life.</li><li>In what ways can pain serve as a catalyst for personal growth and spiritual awakening?</li><li>How does practicing love as a cosmic energy influence your interactions with others and the world around you? </li></ol>Practices to try:<br /><ol><li>Dedicate time each week to engage with nature or activities that allow you to express your primal energy. This could be through hiking, dancing, or simply spending time withnature.</li><li>When experiencing emotional or physical pain, take a moment to journal or meditate on what this pain is teaching you about your true nature. Use this practice to transform suffering into a lesson of resilience and love.</li><li>Incorporate intentional acts of love into your daily routine. This could be as simple as smiling at a stranger, expressing gratitude, or sending positive energy to someone in need.</li></ol><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Embracing the Wilderness Within<br />02:51 The Journey with Teilhard<br />06:40 Finding Authenticity and Being Seen<br />12:21 Transcendence and Inner Connection<br />18:01 The Noosphere and Collective Evolution<br />23:38 Pain as a Teacher and Personal Power<br />26:54 The Power of Presence and Love<br />27:38 Art as a Catalyst for Connection<br />30:19 Exploring the Energy of Love<br />33:28 Reconnecting with the Self<br />36:40 The Role of Ancestors in Our Journey<br />39:23 Embracing Challenges and Enemies<br />42:35 Envisioning a Better World<br />50:32 Nature's Healing Influence<br />52:56 The Wisdom of Trees and Water Blessings<br />57:12 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70584408</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 05:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70584408/riverside_jenny_christine_phil_mar_11_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="27806842" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had the loveliest of conversations with writer, journalist, and rhetorician, Christine Tracy on her new book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin. Her book and our conversation are about Teilhard, but are both also deeply rooted in...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had the loveliest of conversations with writer, journalist, and rhetorician, Christine Tracy on her new book Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin. Her book and our conversation are about Teilhard, but are both also deeply rooted in how he became a guide and a north star for Christine as she goes on a transcendent journey to find her truest self. What can we learn by letting go of fear and shame and learning to just trust life? We hope Teilhard and Christine inspire you to look within, to trust self, and to transcend. All you need is already within you. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="http://justtrustlife.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christine's Website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.justtrustlife.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Just Trust Life: A Journey with Teilhard de Chardin by: Christine Tracy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.teilhardproject.com/collaborators/scholars/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teilhard Project Scholars</a></li><li><a href="https://www.peterlang.com/document/1109052" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Newsphere by: Christine Tracy</a></li><li><a href="https://risdmuseum.org/art-design/collection/summer-13912" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summer by Frank Weston Benson</a></li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://www.efaa.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Emergency Family Assistance Association</a> in Boulder </li><li><a href="https://ahundredfallingveils.com/2023/08/05/wilding/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wilding by Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer</a></li></ul><br />Questions to consider:<br /><ol><li>How can embracing your inner wildness lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life? Reflect on moments when you felt most connected to your truest self and consider how you can incorporate more of these experiences into your daily life.</li><li>In what ways can pain serve as a catalyst for personal growth and spiritual awakening?</li><li>How does practicing love as a cosmic energy influence your interactions with others and the world around you? </li></ol>Practices to try:<br /><ol><li>Dedicate time each week to engage with nature or activities that allow you to express your primal energy. This could be through hiking, dancing, or simply spending time withnature.</li><li>When experiencing emotional or physical pain, take a moment to journal or meditate on what this pain is teaching you about your true nature. Use this practice to transform suffering into a lesson of resilience and love.</li><li>Incorporate intentional acts of love into your daily routine. This could be as simple as smiling at a stranger, expressing gratitude, or sending positive energy to someone in need.</li></ol><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Embracing the Wilderness Within<br />02:51 The Journey with Teilhard<br />06:40 Finding Authenticity and Being Seen<br />12:21 Transcendence and Inner Connection<br />18:01 The Noosphere and Collective Evolution<br />23:38 Pain as a Teacher and Personal Power<br />26:54 The Power of Presence and Love<br />27:38 Art as a Catalyst for Connection<br />30:19 Exploring the Energy of Love<br />33:28 Reconnecting with the Self<br />36:40 The Role of Ancestors in Our Journey<br />39:23 Embracing Challenges and Enemies<br />42:35 Envisioning a Better World<br />50:32 Nature's Healing Influence<br />52:56 The Wisdom of Trees and Water Blessings<br />57:12 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3476</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>chardin,collective,connection,energy,evolution,growth,journey,life,love,mindfulness,nature,noosphere,personal,radicalsacred,spiritual,teilhard,trust</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Quest for Shalom: A Conversation with Lisa Sharon Harper</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-quest-for-shalom-a-conversation-with-lisa-sharon-harper--70424392</link><description><![CDATA[We are thrilled to speak with Lisa Sharon Harper, founder of Freedom Road, podcaster, public theologian, author, including the books Fortune: How Race Broke My Family And The World—And How To Repair It All, and The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can be Made Right. In this wide ranging conversation Lisa shares with us her wisdom and her witness as we talk about the crises we face in our country and in the church and the hopes that can be found in knowing our history, love, community, and connection. <br /><b><br />Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://freedomroad.us/who-we-are/lisa-sharon-harper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Freedom Road</a></li><li><a href="https://freedomroad.us/who-we-are/lisa-sharon-harper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Truth Is - Lisa’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9781587435270/Fortune-Race-Broke-Family-World--and-1587435276/plp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and The World-And How to Repair It All</a></li><li><a href="https://lisasharonharper.com/the-very-good-gospel/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right</a></li><li><a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/bell-hooks" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beloved-French-Toni-Morrison/dp/2264047968" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Toni Morrison - Beloved</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Identity and Respect<br />01:55 Introducing Lisa Sharon Harper<br />02:52 Journey Towards Shalom<br />05:51 Understanding Shalom: More Than Just Peace<br />19:30 Shalom Between Genders: A Deeper Exploration<br />26:07 The Hebrew Concept of Perfection vs. Western Understanding<br />35:59 The Practice of Love in Society<br />39:42 Self-Love as a Foundation for Justice<br />43:25 The Power of Love vs. Anger<br />47:17 Decolonizing Faith and Ecclesiology<br />59:27 Building Communities of Faith<br />01:05:33 A Call to Action for Faith Leaders<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70424392</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70424392/riverside_lisa_jenny_phil_mar_03_2026_005_radical_sacred.mp3" length="33394956" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are thrilled to speak with Lisa Sharon Harper, founder of Freedom Road, podcaster, public theologian, author, including the books Fortune: How Race Broke My Family And The World—And How To Repair It All, and The Very Good Gospel: How Everything...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are thrilled to speak with Lisa Sharon Harper, founder of Freedom Road, podcaster, public theologian, author, including the books Fortune: How Race Broke My Family And The World—And How To Repair It All, and The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can be Made Right. In this wide ranging conversation Lisa shares with us her wisdom and her witness as we talk about the crises we face in our country and in the church and the hopes that can be found in knowing our history, love, community, and connection. <br /><b><br />Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://freedomroad.us/who-we-are/lisa-sharon-harper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Freedom Road</a></li><li><a href="https://freedomroad.us/who-we-are/lisa-sharon-harper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Truth Is - Lisa’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9781587435270/Fortune-Race-Broke-Family-World--and-1587435276/plp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and The World-And How to Repair It All</a></li><li><a href="https://lisasharonharper.com/the-very-good-gospel/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right</a></li><li><a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu/explore/stories/bell-hooks" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Beloved-French-Toni-Morrison/dp/2264047968" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Toni Morrison - Beloved</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Identity and Respect<br />01:55 Introducing Lisa Sharon Harper<br />02:52 Journey Towards Shalom<br />05:51 Understanding Shalom: More Than Just Peace<br />19:30 Shalom Between Genders: A Deeper Exploration<br />26:07 The Hebrew Concept of Perfection vs. Western Understanding<br />35:59 The Practice of Love in Society<br />39:42 Self-Love as a Foundation for Justice<br />43:25 The Power of Love vs. Anger<br />47:17 Decolonizing Faith and Ecclesiology<br />59:27 Building Communities of Faith<br />01:05:33 A Call to Action for Faith Leaders<br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4175</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>church,decolonize,deconstruction,ecclesiology,identity,justice,lisasharonharper,love,public,respect,shalom,social,socialjustice,theology,western</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rosemerry Wahtola Trommer on the Reciprocity of Poetry</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rosemerry-wahtola-trommer-on-the-reciprocity-of-poetry--70261431</link><description><![CDATA[This week we are joined by poet Rosemary Wahtola Trommer as she shares her journey of writing poetry daily, the role of nature in her work, and how grief has shaped her understanding of beauty and vulnerability. We discuss the integration of personal loss with the creative process, the importance of collaboration, and the power of poetry to express the inexpressible. Rosemary emphasizes the significance of being present in the moment and how poetry serves as a bridge to connect with our emotions and the world around us. Phil also makes his (tear filled) poetry debut.<br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.wordwoman.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rosemerry's Website</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@rosemerrry" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rosemerry's Substack</a></li><li>Rosemerry's Albums: <a href="https://rosemerrywahtolatrommer.bandcamp.com/album/dark-praise" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Praise</a> and <a href="https://rosemerrywahtolatrommer.bandcamp.com/album/risking-love" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Risking Love</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordwoman.com/phone-app/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ritual App</a></li><li><a href="https://evermore.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">evermore.org</a> </li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Vulnerability<br />04:05 The Journey of Daily Writing<br />13:06 Nature as Inspiration<br />16:41 Integrating Beauty and Reality<br />20:56 Celebrating Women Artists<br />28:04 Collaboration and Creativity<br />33:58 Finding Comfort in Poetry<br />36:40 The Transformative Nature of Loss<br />36:43 Embracing Grief as a Teacher<br />44:58 The Intersection of Grief and Praise<br />51:01 The Power of Poetry in Grief<br />58:35 The Role of Art and Nature in Healing<br />01:03:25 Sharing and Celebrating Creative Expressions<br />01:06:58 NEWCHAPTER<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70261431</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2026 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70261431/riverside_rosemerry_jenny_phil_feb_23_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="32618597" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we are joined by poet Rosemary Wahtola Trommer as she shares her journey of writing poetry daily, the role of nature in her work, and how grief has shaped her understanding of beauty and vulnerability. We discuss the integration of personal...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we are joined by poet Rosemary Wahtola Trommer as she shares her journey of writing poetry daily, the role of nature in her work, and how grief has shaped her understanding of beauty and vulnerability. We discuss the integration of personal loss with the creative process, the importance of collaboration, and the power of poetry to express the inexpressible. Rosemary emphasizes the significance of being present in the moment and how poetry serves as a bridge to connect with our emotions and the world around us. Phil also makes his (tear filled) poetry debut.<br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.wordwoman.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rosemerry's Website</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@rosemerrry" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rosemerry's Substack</a></li><li>Rosemerry's Albums: <a href="https://rosemerrywahtolatrommer.bandcamp.com/album/dark-praise" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Praise</a> and <a href="https://rosemerrywahtolatrommer.bandcamp.com/album/risking-love" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Risking Love</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wordwoman.com/phone-app/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ritual App</a></li><li><a href="https://evermore.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">evermore.org</a> </li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Vulnerability<br />04:05 The Journey of Daily Writing<br />13:06 Nature as Inspiration<br />16:41 Integrating Beauty and Reality<br />20:56 Celebrating Women Artists<br />28:04 Collaboration and Creativity<br />33:58 Finding Comfort in Poetry<br />36:40 The Transformative Nature of Loss<br />36:43 Embracing Grief as a Teacher<br />44:58 The Intersection of Grief and Praise<br />51:01 The Power of Poetry in Grief<br />58:35 The Role of Art and Nature in Healing<br />01:03:25 Sharing and Celebrating Creative Expressions<br />01:06:58 NEWCHAPTER<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4078</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>art,collaboration,creativity,emotional,grief,healing,inspiration,nature,poetry,reciprocity,rosemary,trommer,vulnerability,wahtola</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Liza Rankow on Soul Medicine for a Fractured World</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/liza-rankow-on-soul-medicine-for-a-fractured-world--70128222</link><description><![CDATA[We had a truly life giving conversation with Dr. Liza Rankow on her book Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness! Liza’s book is a gorgeous read and speaks on the importance of deep soul healing, both/and thinking, community care,the gifts that can come from our struggles, awe, and having our hearts broken open. We loved this chat and will be thinking about it for a long time to come! <br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b>:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/soul-medicine-for-a-fractured-world-healing-justice-and-the-path-of-wholeness?srsltid=AfmBOopf3xKDxGg356NmeLwfd3OWi3tedueSeUZm76l86O478sMeQUGy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lizarankow.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Liza Rankow Website</a> </li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@lizarankow?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Liza’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yogawithsusana.com/post/now-is-the-time-by-hafiz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Now is the Time by Hafiz </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Invitation to lenten practice<br />02:37 Introducing Dr. Liza Rankow<br />04:02 Navigating Wilderness Times<br />07:38 Understanding Nopantla: The In-Between Space<br />10:35 The Duality of Tomb and Womb<br />14:23 Mysticism and Social Activism<br />20:19 The Gift of Pain and Vulnerability<br />24:26 Finding Meaning in Suffering<br />28:41 Rituals of Initiation and Meaning-Making<br />35:16 Rites of Passage and Cultural Ordeals<br />37:37 Integrating Trauma and Rituals<br />39:52 The Power of Awe and Brokenness<br />45:22 Suffering as a Spiritual Discipline<br />48:15 The Evolving Relationship with Ancestors<br />52:51 The Science and Significance of Awe<br />01:01:18 Prayer Excerpted from A Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70128222</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70128222/riverside_liza_jenny_phil_feb_17_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="29922551" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had a truly life giving conversation with Dr. Liza Rankow on her book Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness! Liza’s book is a gorgeous read and speaks on the importance of deep soul healing, both/and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had a truly life giving conversation with Dr. Liza Rankow on her book Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness! Liza’s book is a gorgeous read and speaks on the importance of deep soul healing, both/and thinking, community care,the gifts that can come from our struggles, awe, and having our hearts broken open. We loved this chat and will be thinking about it for a long time to come! <br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b>:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/soul-medicine-for-a-fractured-world-healing-justice-and-the-path-of-wholeness?srsltid=AfmBOopf3xKDxGg356NmeLwfd3OWi3tedueSeUZm76l86O478sMeQUGy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Soul Medicine for a Fractured World: Healing, Justice, and the Path of Wholeness</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lizarankow.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Liza Rankow Website</a> </li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@lizarankow?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Liza’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.yogawithsusana.com/post/now-is-the-time-by-hafiz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Now is the Time by Hafiz </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Invitation to lenten practice<br />02:37 Introducing Dr. Liza Rankow<br />04:02 Navigating Wilderness Times<br />07:38 Understanding Nopantla: The In-Between Space<br />10:35 The Duality of Tomb and Womb<br />14:23 Mysticism and Social Activism<br />20:19 The Gift of Pain and Vulnerability<br />24:26 Finding Meaning in Suffering<br />28:41 Rituals of Initiation and Meaning-Making<br />35:16 Rites of Passage and Cultural Ordeals<br />37:37 Integrating Trauma and Rituals<br />39:52 The Power of Awe and Brokenness<br />45:22 Suffering as a Spiritual Discipline<br />48:15 The Evolving Relationship with Ancestors<br />52:51 The Science and Significance of Awe<br />01:01:18 Prayer Excerpted from A Guide to the Bodhisattva's Way of Life<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3741</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,ancestors,awe,faith,lent,lentenpractice,lizarankow,mysticism,nopantla,practice,rituals,social,soul,soulcare,suffering,vulnerability,wilderness</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>David Hayward is the Naked Pastor</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/david-hayward-is-the-naked-pastor--69960798</link><description><![CDATA[We were so fortunate to talk to David Hayward, known for his work under the moniker the Naked Pastor, in this spacious and honest episode about art, deconstruction, feminine wisdom, nature, and more. David shares with us his spiritual journey that is continually unfolding. His gentle storytelling invited us to look deeply at our spirituality, to not be afraid to live the questions when they come up, and to begin to move towards whatever is stirring within our hearts. There is no wrong way to become your fullest self, and the world deeply needs people who have come alive. This chat opened up some things for us to sit with, we hope it does the same for you. <br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><a href="https://nakedpastor.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqe1rkOEOFo0q8KVeQ7omJIfiQjA2d6z1ijM1VvjEb-wH9s44cT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://nakedpastor.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqe1rkOEOFo0q8KVeQ7omJIfiQjA2d6z1ijM1VvjEb-wH9s44cT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Naked Pastor Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=naked+pastor+on+instagram&amp;oq=naked+pastor+on+instagram&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDU1MDZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Naked Pastor on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Liberation-Sophia-David-Hayward/dp/1497524660" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Liberation of Sophia </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Without-Vision-My-People-Prosper/dp/1467920797" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Without a Vision my People Prosper</a>-</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Til-Doubt-Do-Us-Part-ebook/dp/B08CD3289P?ref_=ast_author_mpb" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Till Doubt Do Us Part </a></li><li><a href="https://thelastingsupper.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Lasting Supper - Online Community </a></li><li><a href="https://www.moca.org/program/nadya-tolokonnikova-police-state" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nadya Tolokonnikova from Pussy Riot Art</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Exploration-Christian-Community/dp/0060608528" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The National Anthem and Its Hidden Truths<br />02:56 Introducing David Hayward: The Naked Pastor<br />05:59 The Naked Truth: Spiritual Abuse and Silence<br />11:39 The Journey of Deconstruction Begins<br />14:47 Reconstruction: Integrating the Past<br />19:05 Sophia: The Feminine Wisdom Within<br />25:56 Masculinity and the Inner Feminine<br />33:03 Jesus and Feminine Wisdom in the Church<br />39:19 Navigating Marriage Through Deconstruction<br />42:51 The Glue of Relationships: Love Beyond Beliefs<br />45:43 Navigating Deconstruction in Relationships<br />46:18 Loneliness and Community Rebuilding<br />49:38 Finding New Connections Outside Faith Communities<br />51:34 Art as Resistance and Inspiration<br />56:48 Nature's Role in Inspiration and Connection<br />01:00:28 The Power of Awe and Love<br />01:10:27 The Naked Pastor's Journey and Future Directions<br />01:12:35 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69960798</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 06:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69960798/riverside_david_jenny_phil_feb_10_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="35325301" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We were so fortunate to talk to David Hayward, known for his work under the moniker the Naked Pastor, in this spacious and honest episode about art, deconstruction, feminine wisdom, nature, and more. David shares with us his spiritual journey that is...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We were so fortunate to talk to David Hayward, known for his work under the moniker the Naked Pastor, in this spacious and honest episode about art, deconstruction, feminine wisdom, nature, and more. David shares with us his spiritual journey that is continually unfolding. His gentle storytelling invited us to look deeply at our spirituality, to not be afraid to live the questions when they come up, and to begin to move towards whatever is stirring within our hearts. There is no wrong way to become your fullest self, and the world deeply needs people who have come alive. This chat opened up some things for us to sit with, we hope it does the same for you. <br /><br /><b>Show Notes</b><br /><a href="https://nakedpastor.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqe1rkOEOFo0q8KVeQ7omJIfiQjA2d6z1ijM1VvjEb-wH9s44cT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://nakedpastor.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqe1rkOEOFo0q8KVeQ7omJIfiQjA2d6z1ijM1VvjEb-wH9s44cT" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Naked Pastor Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=naked+pastor+on+instagram&amp;oq=naked+pastor+on+instagram&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDU1MDZqMGo0qAIAsAIA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Naked Pastor on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Liberation-Sophia-David-Hayward/dp/1497524660" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Liberation of Sophia </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Without-Vision-My-People-Prosper/dp/1467920797" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Without a Vision my People Prosper</a>-</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Til-Doubt-Do-Us-Part-ebook/dp/B08CD3289P?ref_=ast_author_mpb" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Till Doubt Do Us Part </a></li><li><a href="https://thelastingsupper.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Lasting Supper - Online Community </a></li><li><a href="https://www.moca.org/program/nadya-tolokonnikova-police-state" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nadya Tolokonnikova from Pussy Riot Art</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Together-Exploration-Christian-Community/dp/0060608528" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Life Together by Dietrich Bonhoeffer</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The National Anthem and Its Hidden Truths<br />02:56 Introducing David Hayward: The Naked Pastor<br />05:59 The Naked Truth: Spiritual Abuse and Silence<br />11:39 The Journey of Deconstruction Begins<br />14:47 Reconstruction: Integrating the Past<br />19:05 Sophia: The Feminine Wisdom Within<br />25:56 Masculinity and the Inner Feminine<br />33:03 Jesus and Feminine Wisdom in the Church<br />39:19 Navigating Marriage Through Deconstruction<br />42:51 The Glue of Relationships: Love Beyond Beliefs<br />45:43 Navigating Deconstruction in Relationships<br />46:18 Loneliness and Community Rebuilding<br />49:38 Finding New Connections Outside Faith Communities<br />51:34 Art as Resistance and Inspiration<br />56:48 Nature's Role in Inspiration and Connection<br />01:00:28 The Power of Awe and Love<br />01:10:27 The Naked Pastor's Journey and Future Directions<br />01:12:35 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4416</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>art,church,community,deconstruction,faith,feminine,honesty,integrity,loneliness,masculinity,nakedpastor,quaker,relationships,sophia,spirit,spirituality,wisdom</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Wes Ellis and Abiding in Amen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/wes-ellis-and-abiding-in-amen--69776034</link><description><![CDATA[We had a lovely time chatting with Wes Ellis about his book Abiding in Amen: Prayer for a Secular Age! Wes is a pastor, professor, and author who decided to look at prayer through a gentle, nonjudgmental, and playful lens. We chat about abiding in prayer, silence, what resonates deeply within us, and approaching prayer in a hopeful, open hearted way. We hope that this episode gives you the space you need to check out prayer in new and innovative ways! May your prayers flow through you freely, may they reach the depths of your heart and spirit,  and may your prayers lead you to act. <b><br /><br />Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.fortresspress.com/store/product/9798889833529/Abiding-in-Amen" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Abiding in Amen</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wesleywellis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wes Ellis Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-uncontrollability-of-the-world--9781509543151" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Uncontrollability of the World by Hartmut Rosa </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Creation-Gifford-Lectures-1984-1985/dp/0800628233" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">God in Creation by Jurgen Moltmann</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Theology-play-Ju%CC%88rgen-Moltmann/dp/0060659025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theology of Play by Jurgen Moltmann</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Prayer and Its Significance<br />05:11 Exploring the Challenges of Prayer in a Secular Age<br />10:25 Defining Prayer: A Two-Way Communication<br />13:10 Prayer as Technology: A Cautionary Perspective<br />18:33 Resonance in Prayer Practices<br />21:11 The Concept of Disposable Prayer<br />24:40 The Importance of Play in Spiritual Life<br />27:09 The Importance of Play and Joy in Troubling Times<br />27:50 Prayer as Community Action<br />30:08 Suffering with the World: A New Perspective<br />33:15 The Role of the Church in Transformation<br />35:19 Being Ready: The Nature of Prayer<br />38:27 Everything as Prayer: A New Understanding<br />44:58 Breath Prayer and the Desert Fathers<br />51:04 Finding Beauty Amidst Darkness<br />52:03 Invitation to Simple Prayer<br />53:48 NEWCHAPTER]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69776034</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69776034/riverside_wes_jenny_phil_feb_03_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="26289859" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had a lovely time chatting with Wes Ellis about his book Abiding in Amen: Prayer for a Secular Age! Wes is a pastor, professor, and author who decided to look at prayer through a gentle, nonjudgmental, and playful lens. We chat about abiding in...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had a lovely time chatting with Wes Ellis about his book Abiding in Amen: Prayer for a Secular Age! Wes is a pastor, professor, and author who decided to look at prayer through a gentle, nonjudgmental, and playful lens. We chat about abiding in prayer, silence, what resonates deeply within us, and approaching prayer in a hopeful, open hearted way. We hope that this episode gives you the space you need to check out prayer in new and innovative ways! May your prayers flow through you freely, may they reach the depths of your heart and spirit,  and may your prayers lead you to act. <b><br /><br />Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.fortresspress.com/store/product/9798889833529/Abiding-in-Amen" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Abiding in Amen</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wesleywellis.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wes Ellis Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-uncontrollability-of-the-world--9781509543151" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Uncontrollability of the World by Hartmut Rosa </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Creation-Gifford-Lectures-1984-1985/dp/0800628233" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">God in Creation by Jurgen Moltmann</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Theology-play-Ju%CC%88rgen-Moltmann/dp/0060659025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theology of Play by Jurgen Moltmann</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Prayer and Its Significance<br />05:11 Exploring the Challenges of Prayer in a Secular Age<br />10:25 Defining Prayer: A Two-Way Communication<br />13:10 Prayer as Technology: A Cautionary Perspective<br />18:33 Resonance in Prayer Practices<br />21:11 The Concept of Disposable Prayer<br />24:40 The Importance of Play in Spiritual Life<br />27:09 The Importance of Play and Joy in Troubling Times<br />27:50 Prayer as Community Action<br />30:08 Suffering with the World: A New Perspective<br />33:15 The Role of the Church in Transformation<br />35:19 Being Ready: The Nature of Prayer<br />38:27 Everything as Prayer: A New Understanding<br />44:58 Breath Prayer and the Desert Fathers<br />51:04 Finding Beauty Amidst Darkness<br />52:03 Invitation to Simple Prayer<br />53:48 NEWCHAPTER]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3287</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,age,beauty,breath,community,holy,minneapolis,play,prayer,radicalsacred,resonance,rooted,sacred,secular,spirituality,suffering</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Finding Awe Through Creative Flow with the Seryn</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/finding-awe-through-creative-flow-with-the-seryn--69631739</link><description><![CDATA[We had the loveliest of chats with Seryn founding members Nathan James Allen and Trenton Wheeler! We talk creativity, flow, letting our questions guide us, their beginnings as a band in Denton, TX, their pause from creating music together, the pathway back to one another, and their newest songs. Join us for this winding, interesting, music and hope filled conversation. Fun fact: our new intro and outro music is a gorgeous tune called Beach Song by Seryn. This song means a lot to us and we hope that you enjoy it as well!<br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.serynband.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seryn </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/serynsound/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seryn on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SerynSounds" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube</a></li><li><a href="https://filmfreeway.com/ThinLine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Playing March 21 - Thinline Filmfest - Denton, TX</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GUFJquA6bc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Transcendental Reunion - Mary Chapin Carpenter</a></li><li><a href="https://matmos.bandcamp.com/album/a-chance-to-cut-is-a-chance-to-cure" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Chance to Cut is a Chance to Cure - Matmos</a></li><li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bednight-sleep-music/id6741692755" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">App - Bednight Sleep Music</a></li><li><a href="https://andreagibson.substack.com/p/birds-wrote-me-a-poem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Birds Wrote Me a Poem by: Andrea Gibson</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Prelude<br />04:04 Introducing Seryn: Origins and Name<br />07:06 The Hiatus: Conflict and Growth<br />11:40 Reunion and Healing Through Music<br />19:45 Serendipitous Connections and Band Dynamics<br />25:30 Nature's Influence on Music<br />30:45 The Creative Process Behind 'River Song'<br />32:31 The Significance of 'Beach Song'<br />43:14 Faith and Doubt in Our Music<br />55:26 The Importance of Questioning Beliefs<br />57:00 Artists as Voices of the Oppressed<br />57:43 Finding Inspiration in Turbulent Times<br />01:00:24 The Role of Family in Creativity<br />01:03:31 Navigating Anxiety and Creativity<br />01:09:50 The Urgency of Time and Connection<br />01:19:21 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69631739</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69631739/riverside_trenton_nathan_jenny_1_jan_20_2026_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="38574515" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had the loveliest of chats with Seryn founding members Nathan James Allen and Trenton Wheeler! We talk creativity, flow, letting our questions guide us, their beginnings as a band in Denton, TX, their pause from creating music together, the pathway...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had the loveliest of chats with Seryn founding members Nathan James Allen and Trenton Wheeler! We talk creativity, flow, letting our questions guide us, their beginnings as a band in Denton, TX, their pause from creating music together, the pathway back to one another, and their newest songs. Join us for this winding, interesting, music and hope filled conversation. Fun fact: our new intro and outro music is a gorgeous tune called Beach Song by Seryn. This song means a lot to us and we hope that you enjoy it as well!<br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.serynband.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seryn </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/serynsound/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seryn on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SerynSounds" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Youtube</a></li><li><a href="https://filmfreeway.com/ThinLine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Playing March 21 - Thinline Filmfest - Denton, TX</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GUFJquA6bc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Transcendental Reunion - Mary Chapin Carpenter</a></li><li><a href="https://matmos.bandcamp.com/album/a-chance-to-cut-is-a-chance-to-cure" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Chance to Cut is a Chance to Cure - Matmos</a></li><li><a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bednight-sleep-music/id6741692755" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">App - Bednight Sleep Music</a></li><li><a href="https://andreagibson.substack.com/p/birds-wrote-me-a-poem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Birds Wrote Me a Poem by: Andrea Gibson</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Prelude<br />04:04 Introducing Seryn: Origins and Name<br />07:06 The Hiatus: Conflict and Growth<br />11:40 Reunion and Healing Through Music<br />19:45 Serendipitous Connections and Band Dynamics<br />25:30 Nature's Influence on Music<br />30:45 The Creative Process Behind 'River Song'<br />32:31 The Significance of 'Beach Song'<br />43:14 Faith and Doubt in Our Music<br />55:26 The Importance of Questioning Beliefs<br />57:00 Artists as Voices of the Oppressed<br />57:43 Finding Inspiration in Turbulent Times<br />01:00:24 The Role of Family in Creativity<br />01:03:31 Navigating Anxiety and Creativity<br />01:09:50 The Urgency of Time and Connection<br />01:19:21 NEWCHAPTER<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4822</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>band,creativity,denton,faith,growth,healing,inspiration,interpersonal,music,nashville,nature,personal,relationships,rooted,songwriting,texas</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Grace Ji-Sun Kim on Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/grace-ji-sun-kim-on-earthbound-god-at-the-intersection-of-climate-and-justice--69525405</link><description><![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim joins us today to talk about her book Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice. In Earthbound, Grace instills a sense of urgency around taking care of our earth and each other. She calls us to be the image of God and to approach the holy work of reciprocity in a spirit of love, creativity, aliveness, forgiveness, and beauty. Grace’s work empowers, invites, and ignites us into action as we work together to build a future that is hopeful for all beings. We are grateful for Grace, her witness, and her wisdom. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/earthbound-god-at-the-intersection-of-climate-and-justice?srsltid=AfmBOop50mW9sIg7gzZGH3CQgwXFdAoUX54qJVEZUoYRYL3df13j6Owx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earthbound - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oikoumene.org/resources/publications/making-peace-with-the-earth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Making Peace with the Earth - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1pwt42b" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Planetary Solidarity - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://eewc.com/embracing-transformative-spirit-love/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chi and the Transformative Spirit of Love - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Intersectional-Theology-Introductory-Grace-Ji-Sun-ebook/dp/B07G4HT1MY" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Intersectional Theology - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/when-god-became-white?srsltid=AfmBOoqsu2f1U1HfaKVL4fSlhLPabiwdmLPZDGZIsG7wsRshkKtsUHnt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When God Became White - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://thepilgrimpress.com/products/hope-in-disarray-piecing-our-lives-together-in-faith-kim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hope in Disarray - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://gracek.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace Ji-Sun Kim Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gracejisunkim/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/madang/id1556774235" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Madang Podcast</a> </li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Opening Poem and Introduction<br />01:55 Introducing Grace Ji-Sun Kim<br />02:35 The Need for Earthbound<br />05:16 The White Male God Concept<br />10:38 Theological Implications of Climate Justice<br />15:41 Dualism in Evangelical Theology<br />19:49 Experiential Theology and Creation Care<br />25:20 A Theology of Verbs<br />29:44 Finding Hope in Action<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69525405</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 06:20:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69525405/grace_ji_sun_kim.mp3" length="31678127" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Rev. Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim joins us today to talk about her book Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice. In Earthbound, Grace instills a sense of urgency around taking care of our earth and each other. She calls us to be the image...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Rev. Dr. Grace Ji-Sun Kim joins us today to talk about her book Earthbound: God at the Intersection of Climate and Justice. In Earthbound, Grace instills a sense of urgency around taking care of our earth and each other. She calls us to be the image of God and to approach the holy work of reciprocity in a spirit of love, creativity, aliveness, forgiveness, and beauty. Grace’s work empowers, invites, and ignites us into action as we work together to build a future that is hopeful for all beings. We are grateful for Grace, her witness, and her wisdom. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://orbisbooks.com/products/earthbound-god-at-the-intersection-of-climate-and-justice?srsltid=AfmBOop50mW9sIg7gzZGH3CQgwXFdAoUX54qJVEZUoYRYL3df13j6Owx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earthbound - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oikoumene.org/resources/publications/making-peace-with-the-earth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Making Peace with the Earth - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctt1pwt42b" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Planetary Solidarity - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://eewc.com/embracing-transformative-spirit-love/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chi and the Transformative Spirit of Love - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Intersectional-Theology-Introductory-Grace-Ji-Sun-ebook/dp/B07G4HT1MY" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Intersectional Theology - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/when-god-became-white?srsltid=AfmBOoqsu2f1U1HfaKVL4fSlhLPabiwdmLPZDGZIsG7wsRshkKtsUHnt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When God Became White - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://thepilgrimpress.com/products/hope-in-disarray-piecing-our-lives-together-in-faith-kim" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hope in Disarray - Book</a></li><li><a href="https://gracek.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace Ji-Sun Kim Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/gracejisunkim/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/madang/id1556774235" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Madang Podcast</a> </li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Opening Poem and Introduction<br />01:55 Introducing Grace Ji-Sun Kim<br />02:35 The Need for Earthbound<br />05:16 The White Male God Concept<br />10:38 Theological Implications of Climate Justice<br />15:41 Dualism in Evangelical Theology<br />19:49 Experiential Theology and Creation Care<br />25:20 A Theology of Verbs<br />29:44 Finding Hope in Action<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1980</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>climate,earthbound,eco-feminism,god,intersectionality,justice,male,radical,sacred,social,spirituality,theology,white</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Becoming Kin with Patty Krawec</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/becoming-kin-with-patty-krawec--69429988</link><description><![CDATA[We loved getting the opportunity to speak with Patty Krawec, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club, speaker, activist, and co-founder of the Nii'kinaaganaa Foundation. Patty talks to us about the importance of remembering our history honestly so that we can reimagine a future that is reciprocal for all people and for the land. Patty’s work is invitational and reminds us that we are all relatives. Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.thousandworlds.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Patty Krawec</a></li><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889837688/Becoming-Kin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Becoming Kin</a></li><li><a href="http://payyourrent.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">payyourrent.ca</a></li><li><a href="https://www.natureevolutionaries.com/teleseminars-1/2022/landback-with-tate-walker" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Taté Walker poem - Land Back</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/141846/once-the-world-was-perfect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Once the World was Perfect by Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Perfect World and Its Downfall<br />02:21 Introducing Patti Krowick: Activism and Literature<br />05:38 Unforgetting the Past: A Path to Reimagining the Future<br />10:31 The Journey of Returning to Oneself<br />18:46 The Eighth Fire: Collective Responsibility and Future Visions<br />25:31 Listening to the Land: Environmental and Spiritual Connections<br />30:16 The Seventh and Eighth Fires: Prophecies and Responsibilities<br />34:42 Understanding Historical Contexts<br />35:57 The Concept of Displacement and Community<br />39:32 Roots and Responsibilities<br />43:31 Activism and Hope<br />46:30 Connecting Through Knowledge and Action<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69429988</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 06:20:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69429988/patty_krawec.mp3" length="48063795" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We loved getting the opportunity to speak with Patty Krawec, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club, speaker, activist, and co-founder of the Nii'kinaaganaa Foundation. Patty talks to us about the importance of remembering our history...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We loved getting the opportunity to speak with Patty Krawec, author of Becoming Kin and Bad Indians Book Club, speaker, activist, and co-founder of the Nii'kinaaganaa Foundation. Patty talks to us about the importance of remembering our history honestly so that we can reimagine a future that is reciprocal for all people and for the land. Patty’s work is invitational and reminds us that we are all relatives. Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.thousandworlds.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Patty Krawec</a></li><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889837688/Becoming-Kin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Becoming Kin</a></li><li><a href="http://payyourrent.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">payyourrent.ca</a></li><li><a href="https://www.natureevolutionaries.com/teleseminars-1/2022/landback-with-tate-walker" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Taté Walker poem - Land Back</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/141846/once-the-world-was-perfect" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Once the World was Perfect by Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Perfect World and Its Downfall<br />02:21 Introducing Patti Krowick: Activism and Literature<br />05:38 Unforgetting the Past: A Path to Reimagining the Future<br />10:31 The Journey of Returning to Oneself<br />18:46 The Eighth Fire: Collective Responsibility and Future Visions<br />25:31 Listening to the Land: Environmental and Spiritual Connections<br />30:16 The Seventh and Eighth Fires: Prophecies and Responsibilities<br />34:42 Understanding Historical Contexts<br />35:57 The Concept of Displacement and Community<br />39:32 Roots and Responsibilities<br />43:31 Activism and Hope<br />46:30 Connecting Through Knowledge and Action<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,colonialism,community,environmentalism,harjo,history,indigenous,justice,kinship,land,social,unforgetting</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Love a Forest with Ethan Tapper</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-to-love-a-forest-with-ethan-tapper--69335069</link><description><![CDATA[How we Love a Forest is how we Love Everything with Ethan Tapper. Join us for this transformative and hopeful chat with forrester, author of How We Love a Forest, and digital storyteller Ethan Tapper!  Ethan walks us through what it looks like to love and give your life over to whatever is calling to you from the depths of your heart. We visit about his 175 acres called Bear Island and the restorative and sometimes heartbreaking work it takes to love well. Ethan’s knowledge of trees, foxes, birds and wild things that roam Bear Island is delightful and invitational. Our hearts were changed by his deep commitment to the land and to the future. <br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan Tapper</a></li><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Love a Forest: The Bittersweet Work of Tending a Changing World</a></li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/willow" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Willow and the Storm - Children’s Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/howtoloveaforest/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.fr/What-Robin-Knows-Secrets-Natural/dp/054400230X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What the Robin Knows by John Young</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lylajune.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Lyla June</a></li><li><a href="https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/e-o-wilson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EO Wilson</a></li><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/15374219-In-Blackwater-woods-by-Mary-J-Oliver" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In Blackwater Woods by: Mary Oliver</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Nature and Loss<br />01:25 Introducing Ethan Tapper: A Forester's Journey<br />04:48 Bear Island: A Symbol of Hope and Responsibility<br />09:46 Wildlife and Ecosystem Relationships<br />15:48 Human Nature and Ecological Responsibility<br />21:14 The Complexity of Ecosystems and Love for Nature<br />26:52 The Unexpected Joy of Public Speaking<br />27:17 Emerging Themes of Hope<br />28:11 Engaging the Younger Generation<br />29:29 The Power of Hope in Action<br />30:15 Mythologizing Forests and Emotional Connections<br />31:05 The Role of Emotion in Environmental Advocacy<br />33:49 Balancing Science and Spirituality<br />37:48 Delight in Nature's Wonders<br />38:24 The Complexity of Life and Death<br />48:06 Understanding Death in Ecosystems<br />52:55 The Beauty of Forests and Their Lessons<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69335069</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 06:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69335069/ethan_tapper.mp3" length="54312705" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>How we Love a Forest is how we Love Everything with Ethan Tapper. Join us for this transformative and hopeful chat with forrester, author of How We Love a Forest, and digital storyteller Ethan Tapper!  Ethan walks us through what it looks like to love...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[How we Love a Forest is how we Love Everything with Ethan Tapper. Join us for this transformative and hopeful chat with forrester, author of How We Love a Forest, and digital storyteller Ethan Tapper!  Ethan walks us through what it looks like to love and give your life over to whatever is calling to you from the depths of your heart. We visit about his 175 acres called Bear Island and the restorative and sometimes heartbreaking work it takes to love well. Ethan’s knowledge of trees, foxes, birds and wild things that roam Bear Island is delightful and invitational. Our hearts were changed by his deep commitment to the land and to the future. <br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan Tapper</a></li><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Love a Forest: The Bittersweet Work of Tending a Changing World</a></li></ul><ul><li><a href="https://ethantapper.com/willow" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Willow and the Storm - Children’s Book</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/howtoloveaforest/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.fr/What-Robin-Knows-Secrets-Natural/dp/054400230X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What the Robin Knows by John Young</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lylajune.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Lyla June</a></li><li><a href="https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/e-o-wilson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EO Wilson</a></li><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/15374219-In-Blackwater-woods-by-Mary-J-Oliver" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In Blackwater Woods by: Mary Oliver</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Nature and Loss<br />01:25 Introducing Ethan Tapper: A Forester's Journey<br />04:48 Bear Island: A Symbol of Hope and Responsibility<br />09:46 Wildlife and Ecosystem Relationships<br />15:48 Human Nature and Ecological Responsibility<br />21:14 The Complexity of Ecosystems and Love for Nature<br />26:52 The Unexpected Joy of Public Speaking<br />27:17 Emerging Themes of Hope<br />28:11 Engaging the Younger Generation<br />29:29 The Power of Hope in Action<br />30:15 Mythologizing Forests and Emotional Connections<br />31:05 The Role of Emotion in Environmental Advocacy<br />33:49 Balancing Science and Spirituality<br />37:48 Delight in Nature's Wonders<br />38:24 The Complexity of Life and Death<br />48:06 Understanding Death in Ecosystems<br />52:55 The Beauty of Forests and Their Lessons<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3395</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>bear,challenges,ecosystems,environmental,ethan,forestry,hope,human-nature,island,nature,relationship,stewardship,tapper,wildlife</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A Year in Reflection and Cheers to a New Year</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-year-in-reflection-and-cheers-to-a-new-year--69252105</link><description><![CDATA[Cheers to a New Year from Radical Sacred! This year has been a bit of a shit sandwich for us so if you’re feeling less than holly jolly this one's for you. We chat about where we are and our hopes for 2026. We choose a few words that will be our guiding light for the year to come and remember our favorite episodes from this season. Thanks for being on this journey with us! “May the nourishment of the earth be yours,may the clarity of light be yours,may the fluency of the ocean be yours, may the protection of the ancestors be yours.” - John O’Donohue<br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><b><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/beannacht-blessing/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beannacht by: John O’Donohue</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.npr.org/programs/ted-radio-hour/g-s1-100796/finding-your-bliss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ted Radio Hour - Finding Your Bliss with Krista Tippett of On Being </a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&amp;v=2XZ9z6OewR0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Case for Making Art When the World is on Fire Aime McNee</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://sactoinsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Live-the-Questions-Now.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living the Questions by Rilke</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.pauljhowell.com/poetry/yes-thats-when-rosemerry-wahtola-trommer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Yes, That’s When by: Rosemary Wahtola Trommer</a></b></li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 New Year's Reflections and Technical Challenges<br />02:12 Personal Introductions and Life Updates<br />09:11 Memorable Conversations and Insights from the Year<br />14:43 Creativity, Vulnerability, and the Importance of Expression<br />21:30 Living with Questions and Embracing Uncertainty<br />26:14 Navigating Personal Challenges and Growth<br />28:50 Navigating New Year's Emotions<br />30:31 Leaving Behind and Embracing for the New Year<br />33:37 Personal Reflections on Avoidance and Authenticity<br />37:22 Words of Intention for 2026<br />40:50 Reciprocity and Creativity in Relationships<br />44:25 Words for 2026: Unfold, Return, and Holistic<br />50:16 Expansion and Blooming into the New Year<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69252105</guid><pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 07:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69252105/nye.mp3" length="54919988" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Cheers to a New Year from Radical Sacred! This year has been a bit of a shit sandwich for us so if you’re feeling less than holly jolly this one's for you. We chat about where we are and our hopes for 2026. We choose a few words that will be our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Cheers to a New Year from Radical Sacred! This year has been a bit of a shit sandwich for us so if you’re feeling less than holly jolly this one's for you. We chat about where we are and our hopes for 2026. We choose a few words that will be our guiding light for the year to come and remember our favorite episodes from this season. Thanks for being on this journey with us! “May the nourishment of the earth be yours,may the clarity of light be yours,may the fluency of the ocean be yours, may the protection of the ancestors be yours.” - John O’Donohue<br /><b></b><br /><b>Show Notes:</b><br /><ul><li><b><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/beannacht-blessing/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beannacht by: John O’Donohue</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.npr.org/programs/ted-radio-hour/g-s1-100796/finding-your-bliss" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ted Radio Hour - Finding Your Bliss with Krista Tippett of On Being </a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&amp;v=2XZ9z6OewR0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Case for Making Art When the World is on Fire Aime McNee</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://sactoinsight.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Live-the-Questions-Now.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living the Questions by Rilke</a></b></li><li><b><a href="https://www.pauljhowell.com/poetry/yes-thats-when-rosemerry-wahtola-trommer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Yes, That’s When by: Rosemary Wahtola Trommer</a></b></li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 New Year's Reflections and Technical Challenges<br />02:12 Personal Introductions and Life Updates<br />09:11 Memorable Conversations and Insights from the Year<br />14:43 Creativity, Vulnerability, and the Importance of Expression<br />21:30 Living with Questions and Embracing Uncertainty<br />26:14 Navigating Personal Challenges and Growth<br />28:50 Navigating New Year's Emotions<br />30:31 Leaving Behind and Embracing for the New Year<br />33:37 Personal Reflections on Avoidance and Authenticity<br />37:22 Words of Intention for 2026<br />40:50 Reciprocity and Creativity in Relationships<br />44:25 Words for 2026: Unfold, Return, and Holistic<br />50:16 Expansion and Blooming into the New Year<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3433</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>creativity,growth,intentions,newyear,nye,personal,podcast,reflections,relationships,self-discovery,spirituality,transformation,year</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reciprocal Rhythms: Poetry and the Dance of Chaos with Padraig O' Tuama</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reciprocal-rhythms-poetry-and-the-dance-of-chaos-with-padraig-o-tuama--69190684</link><description><![CDATA[On this special Christmas Eve episode we get to chat with poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama! Pádraig talks with us about reciprocity in all its forms, chaos, cooperation and conflict resolution, doing what is yours to do and more! We are so thankful for Pádraig, his work and his wise words, for all of you listening, and for the hope we find in poetry, art, music, nature, and creation in these uncertain times. May your Christmas be filled with love and joy and may you follow your imagination and explore all that is within you and all that calls to you. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393337341" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kingdom of Ordinary Time </a></li><li><a href="http://conflictintelligence.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">conflictintelligence.org</a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Poetry Unbound Poetry Unbound Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/between-sun-and-moon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In Between the Sun and Moon</a></li><li><a href="https://aotearoasunrise.blogspot.com/2019/11/tuesday-poem-circle-by-padraig-o-tuama.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Circle </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Personal Connection<br />03:38 Exploring Reciprocity in Relationships<br />05:03 Nature as Inspiration in Poetry<br />09:55 Understanding Chaos and Its Role in Life<br />14:40 The Intersection of Poetry and Chaos<br />15:55 The Writing Process and Rituals<br />22:03 Conflict Resolution and the Role of Community<br />30:19 The Pedagogy of Conflict<br />33:05 Art as a Response to Crisis<br />40:21 Understanding Thin Spaces<br />46:42 Celtic Spirituality and Modern Contexts<br />48:37 Finding Hope in Community<br />50:58 The Role of Imagination in Writing<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69190684</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69190684/padraig.mp3" length="54947578" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this special Christmas Eve episode we get to chat with poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama! Pádraig talks with us about reciprocity in all its forms, chaos, cooperation and conflict resolution, doing what is yours to do and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this special Christmas Eve episode we get to chat with poet, theologian, and host of Poetry Unbound Pádraig Ó Tuama! Pádraig talks with us about reciprocity in all its forms, chaos, cooperation and conflict resolution, doing what is yours to do and more! We are so thankful for Pádraig, his work and his wise words, for all of you listening, and for the hope we find in poetry, art, music, nature, and creation in these uncertain times. May your Christmas be filled with love and joy and may you follow your imagination and explore all that is within you and all that calls to you. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9780393337341" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kingdom of Ordinary Time </a></li><li><a href="http://conflictintelligence.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">conflictintelligence.org</a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Poetry Unbound Poetry Unbound Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/between-sun-and-moon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In Between the Sun and Moon</a></li><li><a href="https://aotearoasunrise.blogspot.com/2019/11/tuesday-poem-circle-by-padraig-o-tuama.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Circle </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Personal Connection<br />03:38 Exploring Reciprocity in Relationships<br />05:03 Nature as Inspiration in Poetry<br />09:55 Understanding Chaos and Its Role in Life<br />14:40 The Intersection of Poetry and Chaos<br />15:55 The Writing Process and Rituals<br />22:03 Conflict Resolution and the Role of Community<br />30:19 The Pedagogy of Conflict<br />33:05 Art as a Response to Crisis<br />40:21 Understanding Thin Spaces<br />46:42 Celtic Spirituality and Modern Contexts<br />48:37 Finding Hope in Community<br />50:58 The Role of Imagination in Writing<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3435</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>art,celticspirituality,chaos,community,conflict,hope,nature,onbeing,poetry,process,reciprocity,resolution,spirituality,writing</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson on Reciprocity and Sex</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/julia-postema-and-jeremiah-gibson-on-reciprocity-and-sex--69047337</link><description><![CDATA[Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson join us today to talk about reciprocity in intimate relationships in this helpful and hopeful episode! Julia and Jeremiah are married therapists whose mission is to support relationships in reclaiming sexuality following adverse religious experiences. Their gentle approach invites us all into new ways of being and knowing, ourselves and others. We loved their kind and thoughtful approach to sex, intimacy, and learning how to listen to our bodies and our yearning. <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Come-As-You-Are-Revised-and-Updated/Emily-Nagoski/9781982165314" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski</a></li><li><a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/come-together-the-science-and-art-of-creating-lasting-sexual-connections-emily-nagoski/1a91311f05900b1b?ean=9781785045011&amp;next=t&amp;next=t&amp;affiliate=447&amp;utm=penguinbookpage" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come Together by Emily Nagoski</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sexvangelicals.com/sexvangelicals" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexvangelicals Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587435881_when-religion-hurts-you" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When Religion Hurts You by Laura Anderson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.letshealtogether.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Relationship Coaching Business - Let’s Heal Together</a></li><li><a href="https://dippingintolight.com/kai-cheng-thom-1991/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Green Boy by Kai Cheng Thom</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Poetry and Themes of Connection<br />01:03 Exploring the Wild Goose Festival and Its Impact<br />02:43 Navigating High Control Environments and Personal Growth<br />05:40 Defining Reciprocity in Relationships<br />08:08 Understanding Differentiation and Interdependence<br />11:09 The Role of Purity Culture in Sexuality<br />13:53 The Political Nature of Sexuality and Relationships<br />16:15 Deconstructing Shame and Reclaiming Autonomy<br />19:05 Steps Towards Healing from Purity Culture<br />21:42 Intuition, Yearning, and Self-Discovery<br />24:31 The Importance of Play in Sexuality<br />27:16 Imagination and Reconstruction of Beliefs<br />30:24 Experimentation in Relationships and Sexuality<br />31:25 The Impact of Nature on Intimacy and Connection<br />34:02 Intimacy as a Pathway to Connection<br />36:49 Practical Steps to Cultivate Intimacy<br />39:10 Recommended Resources for Vulnerability and Reciprocity<br />42:10 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69047337</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69047337/sexvangelicals_audio.mp3" length="59391333" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson join us today to talk about reciprocity in intimate relationships in this helpful and hopeful episode! Julia and Jeremiah are married therapists whose mission is to support relationships in reclaiming sexuality...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson join us today to talk about reciprocity in intimate relationships in this helpful and hopeful episode! Julia and Jeremiah are married therapists whose mission is to support relationships in reclaiming sexuality following adverse religious experiences. Their gentle approach invites us all into new ways of being and knowing, ourselves and others. We loved their kind and thoughtful approach to sex, intimacy, and learning how to listen to our bodies and our yearning. <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Come-As-You-Are-Revised-and-Updated/Emily-Nagoski/9781982165314" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come As You Are by Emily Nagoski</a></li><li><a href="https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/come-together-the-science-and-art-of-creating-lasting-sexual-connections-emily-nagoski/1a91311f05900b1b?ean=9781785045011&amp;next=t&amp;next=t&amp;affiliate=447&amp;utm=penguinbookpage" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come Together by Emily Nagoski</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sexvangelicals.com/sexvangelicals" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sexvangelicals Podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://bakerpublishinggroup.com/products/9781587435881_when-religion-hurts-you" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When Religion Hurts You by Laura Anderson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.letshealtogether.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Relationship Coaching Business - Let’s Heal Together</a></li><li><a href="https://dippingintolight.com/kai-cheng-thom-1991/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Green Boy by Kai Cheng Thom</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Poetry and Themes of Connection<br />01:03 Exploring the Wild Goose Festival and Its Impact<br />02:43 Navigating High Control Environments and Personal Growth<br />05:40 Defining Reciprocity in Relationships<br />08:08 Understanding Differentiation and Interdependence<br />11:09 The Role of Purity Culture in Sexuality<br />13:53 The Political Nature of Sexuality and Relationships<br />16:15 Deconstructing Shame and Reclaiming Autonomy<br />19:05 Steps Towards Healing from Purity Culture<br />21:42 Intuition, Yearning, and Self-Discovery<br />24:31 The Importance of Play in Sexuality<br />27:16 Imagination and Reconstruction of Beliefs<br />30:24 Experimentation in Relationships and Sexuality<br />31:25 The Impact of Nature on Intimacy and Connection<br />34:02 Intimacy as a Pathway to Connection<br />36:49 Practical Steps to Cultivate Intimacy<br />39:10 Recommended Resources for Vulnerability and Reciprocity<br />42:10 Closing Thoughts and Future Directions]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3712</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,culture,deconstruction,healing,intimacy,poetry,purity,reciprocity,relationships,sex,therapy,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Mike Whang and the Reciprocity of Liturgy</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/mike-whang-and-the-reciprocity-of-liturgy--68970363</link><description><![CDATA[Really lovely and meandering chat this week with the founder of Oikon Studios Mike Whang. Mike began Oikon Studios as a way of learning to walk in the unforced rhythms of grace.Through a gorgeous mixture of liturgy,spiritual formation, lectio divina, and music Mike invites us all to union with God, with true self, and with one another. Our attention is deeply rooted in what we’re attuned to and where our intention lies. What is calling you to divine union? <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.oikonstudios.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oikon Studios</a></li><li><a href="https://www.phygitalfellows.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Phygital Fellows </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ignatianspirituality.com/ignatian-prayer/the-what-how-why-of-prayer/praying-with-scripture/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lectio Divina</a></li><li><a href="https://opentable.lgbt/our-blog/2021/2/23/in-the-name-a-poem-on-the-theme-of-body-mind-spirit-by-otn-patron-pdraig-tuama" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In the Name by Padraig O’Tuama</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 In the Name of Community and Connection<br />02:50 Introducing Mike Wang and Oikon Studios<br />04:31 The Evolution of Liturgy and Ministry<br />07:20 The Importance of Liturgy in Spiritual Life<br />11:14 Unforced Rhythms of Grace<br />14:24 Liturgy as Practice and Reciprocity<br />17:45 Power Dynamics in Liturgy and Ministry<br />22:54 Moving from Scarcity to Abundance<br />27:34 Creating Beauty in Ministry<br />33:41 Practices of Attentiveness and Reflection<br />35:57 God's Work Beyond the Church<br />39:37 Advent Reflections and Ancestral Connections<br />44:05 Legacy and Ancestral Influence<br />48:11 Closing Thoughts and Resources<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68970363</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 06:20:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68970363/mike_whang.mp3" length="48236410" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Really lovely and meandering chat this week with the founder of Oikon Studios Mike Whang. Mike began Oikon Studios as a way of learning to walk in the unforced rhythms of grace.Through a gorgeous mixture of liturgy,spiritual formation, lectio divina,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Really lovely and meandering chat this week with the founder of Oikon Studios Mike Whang. Mike began Oikon Studios as a way of learning to walk in the unforced rhythms of grace.Through a gorgeous mixture of liturgy,spiritual formation, lectio divina, and music Mike invites us all to union with God, with true self, and with one another. Our attention is deeply rooted in what we’re attuned to and where our intention lies. What is calling you to divine union? <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.oikonstudios.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oikon Studios</a></li><li><a href="https://www.phygitalfellows.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Phygital Fellows </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ignatianspirituality.com/ignatian-prayer/the-what-how-why-of-prayer/praying-with-scripture/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lectio Divina</a></li><li><a href="https://opentable.lgbt/our-blog/2021/2/23/in-the-name-a-poem-on-the-theme-of-body-mind-spirit-by-otn-patron-pdraig-tuama" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">In the Name by Padraig O’Tuama</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 In the Name of Community and Connection<br />02:50 Introducing Mike Wang and Oikon Studios<br />04:31 The Evolution of Liturgy and Ministry<br />07:20 The Importance of Liturgy in Spiritual Life<br />11:14 Unforced Rhythms of Grace<br />14:24 Liturgy as Practice and Reciprocity<br />17:45 Power Dynamics in Liturgy and Ministry<br />22:54 Moving from Scarcity to Abundance<br />27:34 Creating Beauty in Ministry<br />33:41 Practices of Attentiveness and Reflection<br />35:57 God's Work Beyond the Church<br />39:37 Advent Reflections and Ancestral Connections<br />44:05 Legacy and Ancestral Influence<br />48:11 Closing Thoughts and Resources<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3015</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>advent,ancestors,community,connection,grace,intentionality,liturgy,oikon,reciprocity,spirituality,studios</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Enchantment and Dragonflies with Brooke Williams</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/enchantment-and-dragonflies-with-brooke-williams--68840687</link><description><![CDATA[It’s hard to put this episode with Brooke Williams on his new book Encountering Dragonfly into words! The breadth and width of this conversation is vast. We talk to Brooke about dragonflies, prophetic dreams, listening to your inner knowing, animal guides, re-enchantment, imaginal ecology, the veils between worlds, and more! Grateful for this lovely book, and for Brooke’s ability to invite, enliven, and re-enchant. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://brookewilliams.site/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brooke Williams Website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.uphill-books.com/book/encountering-dragonfly/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encountering Dragonfly : Notes on the Practice of Re-enchantment</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Has-Soul-Nature-Technology/dp/1556433794" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Earth has a Soul - Meredith Sabini </a></li><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/12622463-Manifesto--The-Mad-Farmer-Liberation-Front-by-Wendell-Berry" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front - Wenell Berry</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54677/fly-dragonfly" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fly, Dragonfly! By: Joyce Sidman</a></li><li><a href="https://merwinconservancy.org/poems/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">W.S. Merwin</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Enchantment of Dragonflies<br />06:19 Exploring Inner Worlds and Personal Truths<br />12:25 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality<br />18:49 Animals as Messengers and Guides<br />26:57 Archetypes and the Symbolism of Dragonflies<br />34:49 Imaginal Ecology and Natural History<br />35:41 Imaginal Ecology and Relationships<br />39:02 Consciousness and Collective Responsibility<br />42:37 Attention: The Key to Re-enchantment<br />47:23 Personal and Collective Re-enchantment<br />54:03 The Power of Passion and Connection<br />01:01:35 Facing Mortality and Purpose<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68840687</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68840687/encountering_dragonfly_with_brooke_williams.mp3" length="65504845" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>It’s hard to put this episode with Brooke Williams on his new book Encountering Dragonfly into words! The breadth and width of this conversation is vast. We talk to Brooke about dragonflies, prophetic dreams, listening to your inner knowing, animal...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[It’s hard to put this episode with Brooke Williams on his new book Encountering Dragonfly into words! The breadth and width of this conversation is vast. We talk to Brooke about dragonflies, prophetic dreams, listening to your inner knowing, animal guides, re-enchantment, imaginal ecology, the veils between worlds, and more! Grateful for this lovely book, and for Brooke’s ability to invite, enliven, and re-enchant. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://brookewilliams.site/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brooke Williams Website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.uphill-books.com/book/encountering-dragonfly/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encountering Dragonfly : Notes on the Practice of Re-enchantment</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Has-Soul-Nature-Technology/dp/1556433794" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Earth has a Soul - Meredith Sabini </a></li><li><a href="https://allpoetry.com/poem/12622463-Manifesto--The-Mad-Farmer-Liberation-Front-by-Wendell-Berry" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Manifesto: The Mad Farmer Liberation Front - Wenell Berry</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/54677/fly-dragonfly" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fly, Dragonfly! By: Joyce Sidman</a></li><li><a href="https://merwinconservancy.org/poems/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">W.S. Merwin</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Enchantment of Dragonflies<br />06:19 Exploring Inner Worlds and Personal Truths<br />12:25 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality<br />18:49 Animals as Messengers and Guides<br />26:57 Archetypes and the Symbolism of Dragonflies<br />34:49 Imaginal Ecology and Natural History<br />35:41 Imaginal Ecology and Relationships<br />39:02 Consciousness and Collective Responsibility<br />42:37 Attention: The Key to Re-enchantment<br />47:23 Personal and Collective Re-enchantment<br />54:03 The Power of Passion and Connection<br />01:01:35 Facing Mortality and Purpose<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4095</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>animals,archetypes,collective,consciousness,dragonflies,dreams,ecology,guides,imaginal,nature,personal,re-enchantment,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy on Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/beth-norcross-and-leah-rampy-on-discovering-the-spiritual-wisdom-of-trees--68741024</link><description><![CDATA[We were so fortunate to meet Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy at The Wild Goose Festival! This chance encounter led us to reading their beautiful book Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees and to the lovely and deeply rooted conversation in this episode. The way Beth and Leah invite us back to nature, remind us that we are one with the trees, and embody looking to the trees as our teachers have inspired us so deeply. May we each find our love for all beings renewed and reinvigorated by these women and their gorgeous work. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889832133/Discovering-the-Spiritual-Wisdom-of-Trees" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees </a></li><li><a href="https://www.saveoursoilwv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Save Our Soil</a></li><li><a href="https://www.centerforspiritualityinnature.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Spirituality in Nature</a></li><li><a href="https://unfccc.int/cop30" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">COP 30</a></li><li><a href="http://bethnorcross.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BethNorcross.com</a></li><li><a href="http://leahrampy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LeahRampy.com</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@leahrampy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reweaving Earth and Soul - Leah on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://cih.ucsd.edu/sites/cih.ucsd.edu/files/cfm/When%20I%20am%20among%20the%20Trees%20by%20Mary%20Oliver.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I am among the Trees by: Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Spiritual Connection with Nature<br />08:59 Personal Journeys and Teacher Trees<br />18:17 The Wisdom of Trees: Literal and Metaphorical<br />26:52 The Role of Trees in Spiritual Practices<br />33:00 The Journey of Spiritual Practices<br />36:04 Nurse Logs and Ancestral Connections<br />42:40 Grounding Through Spiritual Practices<br />48:51 Reconnecting with Nature and Spirituality<br />57:32 A Message from the Trees<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68741024</guid><pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 06:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68741024/spiritual_wisdom_of_trees.mp3" length="60797352" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We were so fortunate to meet Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy at The Wild Goose Festival! This chance encounter led us to reading their beautiful book Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees and to the lovely and deeply rooted conversation in this...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We were so fortunate to meet Beth Norcross and Leah Rampy at The Wild Goose Festival! This chance encounter led us to reading their beautiful book Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees and to the lovely and deeply rooted conversation in this episode. The way Beth and Leah invite us back to nature, remind us that we are one with the trees, and embody looking to the trees as our teachers have inspired us so deeply. May we each find our love for all beings renewed and reinvigorated by these women and their gorgeous work. <br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889832133/Discovering-the-Spiritual-Wisdom-of-Trees" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees </a></li><li><a href="https://www.saveoursoilwv.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Save Our Soil</a></li><li><a href="https://www.centerforspiritualityinnature.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Spirituality in Nature</a></li><li><a href="https://unfccc.int/cop30" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">COP 30</a></li><li><a href="http://bethnorcross.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BethNorcross.com</a></li><li><a href="http://leahrampy.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LeahRampy.com</a></li><li><a href="https://substack.com/@leahrampy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reweaving Earth and Soul - Leah on Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://cih.ucsd.edu/sites/cih.ucsd.edu/files/cfm/When%20I%20am%20among%20the%20Trees%20by%20Mary%20Oliver.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I am among the Trees by: Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Spiritual Connection with Nature<br />08:59 Personal Journeys and Teacher Trees<br />18:17 The Wisdom of Trees: Literal and Metaphorical<br />26:52 The Role of Trees in Spiritual Practices<br />33:00 The Journey of Spiritual Practices<br />36:04 Nurse Logs and Ancestral Connections<br />42:40 Grounding Through Spiritual Practices<br />48:51 Reconnecting with Nature and Spirituality<br />57:32 A Message from the Trees<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3800</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>connection,ecological,environmentalism,in,logs,nature,nurse,practices,spiritual,spirituality,teacher,trees,wisdom</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reciprocity and Flow with Melissa Fritchle</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reciprocity-and-flow-with-melissa-fritchle--68633988</link><description><![CDATA[We chat all about relational flow today with eco spiritual director, soul guide, holistic psychotherapist, author, and two time Radical Sacred guest Melissa Fritchle! When we begin to build our relationships based on reciprocity and flow beautiful new pathways begin to emerge. Join us for this invitational conversation on interdependence, creativity, intimacy, and following our yearning. <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://embody-connect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Website - Embody &amp; Connect</a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/wild-weavings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality - Wild Weavings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/wild-weavings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Night on the Island by: Pablo Neruda</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Introduction<br />02:39 Exploring Soul Guidance<br />03:36 Understanding Reciprocity<br />10:27 Transcending Expectations<br />16:15 From Scarcity to Abundance<br />22:56 Embracing Discomfort for Growth<br />27:26 Creativity in Discomfort<br />31:43 Reconnecting with Yearning<br />35:02 The Nature of Suffering and Happiness<br />37:38 Redefining Work and Retirement<br />39:33 The Importance of Intimacy<br />43:12 The Role of Ceremony and Ritual<br />55:29 Embracing Reciprocity in Relationships]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68633988</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 06:45:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68633988/melissa_fritchle.mp3" length="56060612" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We chat all about relational flow today with eco spiritual director, soul guide, holistic psychotherapist, author, and two time Radical Sacred guest Melissa Fritchle! When we begin to build our relationships based on reciprocity and flow beautiful new...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We chat all about relational flow today with eco spiritual director, soul guide, holistic psychotherapist, author, and two time Radical Sacred guest Melissa Fritchle! When we begin to build our relationships based on reciprocity and flow beautiful new pathways begin to emerge. Join us for this invitational conversation on interdependence, creativity, intimacy, and following our yearning. <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://embody-connect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Website - Embody &amp; Connect</a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa’s Substack - Soul Entwined with Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/wild-weavings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality - Wild Weavings</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/wild-weavings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Night on the Island by: Pablo Neruda</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Introduction<br />02:39 Exploring Soul Guidance<br />03:36 Understanding Reciprocity<br />10:27 Transcending Expectations<br />16:15 From Scarcity to Abundance<br />22:56 Embracing Discomfort for Growth<br />27:26 Creativity in Discomfort<br />31:43 Reconnecting with Yearning<br />35:02 The Nature of Suffering and Happiness<br />37:38 Redefining Work and Retirement<br />39:33 The Importance of Intimacy<br />43:12 The Role of Ceremony and Ritual<br />55:29 Embracing Reciprocity in Relationships]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3504</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>creativity,discomfort,eco-spirituality,holistic,interdependence,intimacy,psychotherapy,reciprocity,relationships,self-awareness,yearning</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reciprocity is at the Heart of Parrott Creek</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reciprocity-is-at-the-heart-of-parrott-creek--68531679</link><description><![CDATA[Simon Fulford and Ame Mañon-Ferguson of Parrott Creek Child and Family Services chat with us about reimaging trauma healing and the expansive, gorgeous work they do for families and the 80 acres of land that surrounds their site. We were blown away by their care and intentionality with the folks they serve with and through their Cultural Ecology Project. We learn about treating all people with unconditional positive regard and about what happens when folks healing from trauma heal in an intentional community and heal with and alongside nature. Our hearts and minds were expanded by this lovely conversation.  <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention on this weeks episode (or meant to anyways):<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://pcreek.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Parrott Creek</a></li><li><a href="https://pcreek.org/cultural-ecology-project/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cultural Ecology Project at Parrott Creek</a></li><li><a href="https://pcreek.networkforgood.com/projects/138067-creating-futures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Donate to Parrott Creek</a></li><li>info@pcreek.org</li><li><a href="http://culturaleco" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Find them on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://poetryflash.org/poems/?p=HARJO-Sunrise" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sunrise by Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Introduction to Parrott Creek<br />01:25 Understanding Parrott Creek's Mission and History<br />05:35 Cultural Ecology and Land Stewardship<br />09:53 The Healing Power of Nature<br />14:36 Measuring Success Beyond Metrics<br />19:06 Unconditional Positive Regard and Trauma-Informed Care<br />23:26 Community Engagement and Restorative Justice<br />28:06 Finding Inspiration and Hope in Nature<br />32:30 Supporting Indigenous Communities and Local Initiatives<br />36:59 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68531679</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 06:25:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68531679/parrot_creek.mp3" length="53155374" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Simon Fulford and Ame Mañon-Ferguson of Parrott Creek Child and Family Services chat with us about reimaging trauma healing and the expansive, gorgeous work they do for families and the 80 acres of land that surrounds their site. We were blown away by...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Simon Fulford and Ame Mañon-Ferguson of Parrott Creek Child and Family Services chat with us about reimaging trauma healing and the expansive, gorgeous work they do for families and the 80 acres of land that surrounds their site. We were blown away by their care and intentionality with the folks they serve with and through their Cultural Ecology Project. We learn about treating all people with unconditional positive regard and about what happens when folks healing from trauma heal in an intentional community and heal with and alongside nature. Our hearts and minds were expanded by this lovely conversation.  <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention on this weeks episode (or meant to anyways):<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://pcreek.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Parrott Creek</a></li><li><a href="https://pcreek.org/cultural-ecology-project/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cultural Ecology Project at Parrott Creek</a></li><li><a href="https://pcreek.networkforgood.com/projects/138067-creating-futures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Donate to Parrott Creek</a></li><li>info@pcreek.org</li><li><a href="http://culturaleco" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Find them on Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://poetryflash.org/poems/?p=HARJO-Sunrise" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sunrise by Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Poetry and Introduction to Parrott Creek<br />01:25 Understanding Parrott Creek's Mission and History<br />05:35 Cultural Ecology and Land Stewardship<br />09:53 The Healing Power of Nature<br />14:36 Measuring Success Beyond Metrics<br />19:06 Unconditional Positive Regard and Trauma-Informed Care<br />23:26 Community Engagement and Restorative Justice<br />28:06 Finding Inspiration and Hope in Nature<br />32:30 Supporting Indigenous Communities and Local Initiatives<br />36:59 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3323</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,cultural,ecology,emotional,healing,indigenous,justice,land,nature,parrotcreek,positive,practices,reciprocity,regard,regulation,restorative,stewardship,trauma,unconditional</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Kenneth McIntosh on the Reciprocity of Interspirituality</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/kenneth-mcintosh-on-the-reciprocity-of-interspirituality--68426480</link><description><![CDATA[We are thrilled to welcome author, pastor, and thinker, Kenneth McIntosh to the pod! We chat about his book Oak and Lotus and how his life has been shaped by Celtic Christianity along with Buddhism. How might our spirituality shift and change in unexpected directions if we were open to new pathways? If you’ve ever been curious about interspirituality this lovely and invitational episode is for you. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention on this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="http://kennethimcintosh.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kennethimcintosh.com</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Oak-Lotus-Christian-Spirituality-Eastern/dp/162524875X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oak and Lotus </a></li><li><a href="https://kennethmcintosh.substack.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kenneth’s Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/guest-house/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rumi’s Guesthouse</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Seeing Christ in Everyday Life<br />01:18 Introduction to Celtic Spirituality<br />02:16 Understanding Interspirituality<br />04:23 Kenneth's Spiritual Journey<br />12:50 Transcending Evangelicalism<br />16:18 Celtic and Eastern Spiritual Connections<br />24:49 Interspirituality and Personal Growth<br />32:38 Reconceiving Jesus: An Eastern Wisdom Teacher<br />35:34 Understanding Taoism: Flowing with the Divine<br />39:59 Everyday Mysticism: Trusting Intuition and Spirit<br />41:29 Thin Places: Encounters with the Divine<br />49:17 Reciprocity: Openness and Inter-Spirituality<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68426480</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 06:40:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68426480/kenneth_mcintosh.mp3" length="60108965" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are thrilled to welcome author, pastor, and thinker, Kenneth McIntosh to the pod! We chat about his book Oak and Lotus and how his life has been shaped by Celtic Christianity along with Buddhism. How might our spirituality shift and change in...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are thrilled to welcome author, pastor, and thinker, Kenneth McIntosh to the pod! We chat about his book Oak and Lotus and how his life has been shaped by Celtic Christianity along with Buddhism. How might our spirituality shift and change in unexpected directions if we were open to new pathways? If you’ve ever been curious about interspirituality this lovely and invitational episode is for you. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention on this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="http://kennethimcintosh.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kennethimcintosh.com</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Oak-Lotus-Christian-Spirituality-Eastern/dp/162524875X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oak and Lotus </a></li><li><a href="https://kennethmcintosh.substack.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kenneth’s Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.scottishpoetrylibrary.org.uk/poem/guest-house/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rumi’s Guesthouse</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Seeing Christ in Everyday Life<br />01:18 Introduction to Celtic Spirituality<br />02:16 Understanding Interspirituality<br />04:23 Kenneth's Spiritual Journey<br />12:50 Transcending Evangelicalism<br />16:18 Celtic and Eastern Spiritual Connections<br />24:49 Interspirituality and Personal Growth<br />32:38 Reconceiving Jesus: An Eastern Wisdom Teacher<br />35:34 Understanding Taoism: Flowing with the Divine<br />39:59 Everyday Mysticism: Trusting Intuition and Spirit<br />41:29 Thin Places: Encounters with the Divine<br />49:17 Reciprocity: Openness and Inter-Spirituality<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3757</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>celtic,eastern,interspirituality,journey,kenneth,lotus,mcintosh,mysticism,nonviolence,oaken,places,reciprocity,spiritual,spirituality,thin,wisdom</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Jarod K. Anderson is the Cryptonaturalist</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/jarod-k-anderson-is-the-cryptonaturalist--68291335</link><description><![CDATA[Jarod K. Anderson, poet, thinker, author, and host of the podcast Cryptonaturalist joins us this week! Jarod chats with us about nature being his church from a very young age, the beauty and invitational nature of moss, writing poetry as a way of making sense of the world, and more. This conversation is not only a breath of fresh air but an invitation back to the forests that make our very breath possible. We are so excited to share with you Jarod’s lovely poems, the ways that nature can be a balm for depression and the weariness of the world, and all the wisdom shared in this gentle, thoughtful conversation. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.jarodkanderson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod K. Anderson Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cryptonaturalist.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Cryptonaturalist Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://jarodkanderson.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/cryptonaturalist/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod’s Instagram </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CfXn3MSMFHd/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forsythia Poem </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Poetry<br />02:58 The Journey of a Poet<br />05:48 The Role of Poetry in Mental Health<br />08:56 Influences and Inspirations in Writing<br />11:35 Finding Peace in Nature<br />14:35 The Importance of Presence in Nature<br />17:07 Unexpected Encounters in Nature<br />18:10 The Philosophy of Mushroom Hunting<br />21:02 Nature as a Teacher<br />23:39 Reciprocity Between Nature and Self<br />26:56 Reconnecting with Nature<br />30:40 The Magic of Trees and Moss<br />34:07 Finding Thin Spaces<br />41:11 The Nature of Love<br />43:16 Vulnerability and Healing<br />51:16 Creative Projects and Future Endeavors<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68291335</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 04:50:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68291335/jarod_k_anderson.mp3" length="53538641" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Jarod K. Anderson, poet, thinker, author, and host of the podcast Cryptonaturalist joins us this week! Jarod chats with us about nature being his church from a very young age, the beauty and invitational nature of moss, writing poetry as a way of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jarod K. Anderson, poet, thinker, author, and host of the podcast Cryptonaturalist joins us this week! Jarod chats with us about nature being his church from a very young age, the beauty and invitational nature of moss, writing poetry as a way of making sense of the world, and more. This conversation is not only a breath of fresh air but an invitation back to the forests that make our very breath possible. We are so excited to share with you Jarod’s lovely poems, the ways that nature can be a balm for depression and the weariness of the world, and all the wisdom shared in this gentle, thoughtful conversation. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.jarodkanderson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod K. Anderson Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cryptonaturalist.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Cryptonaturalist Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://jarodkanderson.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod’s Substack</a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/cryptonaturalist/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jarod’s Instagram </a></li><li><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/CfXn3MSMFHd/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Forsythia Poem </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Poetry<br />02:58 The Journey of a Poet<br />05:48 The Role of Poetry in Mental Health<br />08:56 Influences and Inspirations in Writing<br />11:35 Finding Peace in Nature<br />14:35 The Importance of Presence in Nature<br />17:07 Unexpected Encounters in Nature<br />18:10 The Philosophy of Mushroom Hunting<br />21:02 Nature as a Teacher<br />23:39 Reciprocity Between Nature and Self<br />26:56 Reconnecting with Nature<br />30:40 The Magic of Trees and Moss<br />34:07 Finding Thin Spaces<br />41:11 The Nature of Love<br />43:16 Vulnerability and Healing<br />51:16 Creative Projects and Future Endeavors<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3347</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>anderson,creativity,growth,healing,health,jarod,jarodanderson,mental,nature,personal,poetry,reciprocity,storytelling,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Nature's Healing Touch: Embracing Terra Divina</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/nature-s-healing-touch-embracing-terra-divina--68233696</link><description><![CDATA[In these wild times we earnestly believe that reconnecting with nature, self, and each other is the only route forward that will lead us into equality, equanimity, and hope. The practice of Terra Divina is a four part devotion that will lead you back to your truest you. In this episode we chat all about how to be present to self and nature, how to set aside deep judgment, and how to walk in the direction that our heart invites us. We hope that you will utilize this spiritual practice, that you will invite your family and friends into it, and that you will begin to know yourself through a different more natural lens. Journey with us into deeper knowing and expand your heart, mind, and spirit with Terra Divina. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Divina </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cryptonaturalist.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Treatment by Jarod K Anderson </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Healing Power of Nature<br />02:54 Terra Divina: A Sacred Practice<br />05:22 The Four Steps of Terra Divina<br />10:35 Deepening Connection with Nature<br />15:54 Embracing Discomfort and Transformation<br />21:06 Nature as a Teacher<br />26:09 Invitation to Self-Discovery<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68233696</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 06:10:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68233696/terra_divina.mp3" length="27072631" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In these wild times we earnestly believe that reconnecting with nature, self, and each other is the only route forward that will lead us into equality, equanimity, and hope. The practice of Terra Divina is a four part devotion that will lead you back...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In these wild times we earnestly believe that reconnecting with nature, self, and each other is the only route forward that will lead us into equality, equanimity, and hope. The practice of Terra Divina is a four part devotion that will lead you back to your truest you. In this episode we chat all about how to be present to self and nature, how to set aside deep judgment, and how to walk in the direction that our heart invites us. We hope that you will utilize this spiritual practice, that you will invite your family and friends into it, and that you will begin to know yourself through a different more natural lens. Journey with us into deeper knowing and expand your heart, mind, and spirit with Terra Divina. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Divina </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cryptonaturalist.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Treatment by Jarod K Anderson </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Healing Power of Nature<br />02:54 Terra Divina: A Sacred Practice<br />05:22 The Four Steps of Terra Divina<br />10:35 Deepening Connection with Nature<br />15:54 Embracing Discomfort and Transformation<br />21:06 Nature as a Teacher<br />26:09 Invitation to Self-Discovery<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1692</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>awareness,community,divina,environmental,healing,health,mental,mindfulness,nature,poetry,radicalsacred,reciprocity,rooted,self-discovery,spirituality,terra</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>JD Stillwater is a (Spiritual) Science Ambassador</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/jd-stillwater-is-a-spiritual-science-ambassador--68139154</link><description><![CDATA[JD Stillwater takes us on a wild, imaginative ride in this week’s episode! JD is a Science Ambassador, author, speaker and a joy filled former science teacher who invites others into a worldview more aligned with how reality works. We visit all about embracing the flow of the natural world which is rooted in both science and spirituality and how being in the flow invites us into our own unique place in the vastness of the universe. How might it shift the current trajectory of our society if we begin to view science as not only being compatible with spirituality but as a profound source of our spirituality? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.jdstillwater.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JD’s website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0hdQpbfJj3N71IhGb8Q2g" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Videos from JD</a> </li><li><a href="https://mailchi.mp/c97b90840b8d/jd-signup" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sign up for JD’s newsletter</a></li><li><a href="http://cosmologyinconcert.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cosmology in Concert</a> </li><li>Closing Poem - <a href="https://www.jdstillwater.earth/poetry/#Wellsprings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wellsprings</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Forsythia Metaphor: Growth Through Adversity<br />02:31 Introducing JD Stillwater: A Science Ambassador's Journey<br />06:57 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality<br />11:47 Curiosity as a Guiding Principle<br />22:43 The Gateway to Understanding: Touch and Connection<br />29:19 The Nature of Existence: Flow and Evolution<br />35:52 The Nature of Existence and Death<br />38:47 Diversity and Evolution<br />41:35 Bridging Science and Spirituality<br />47:03 Reciprocity in Nature<br />52:47 Interconnectedness of Life<br />57:22 Cultural Shifts and Learning from Nature<br />01:02:15 Closing Reflections and Future Directions<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68139154</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 05:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68139154/jd_stillwater_mp3.mp3" length="66277207" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>JD Stillwater takes us on a wild, imaginative ride in this week’s episode! JD is a Science Ambassador, author, speaker and a joy filled former science teacher who invites others into a worldview more aligned with how reality works. We visit all about...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[JD Stillwater takes us on a wild, imaginative ride in this week’s episode! JD is a Science Ambassador, author, speaker and a joy filled former science teacher who invites others into a worldview more aligned with how reality works. We visit all about embracing the flow of the natural world which is rooted in both science and spirituality and how being in the flow invites us into our own unique place in the vastness of the universe. How might it shift the current trajectory of our society if we begin to view science as not only being compatible with spirituality but as a profound source of our spirituality? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.jdstillwater.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JD’s website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0hdQpbfJj3N71IhGb8Q2g" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Videos from JD</a> </li><li><a href="https://mailchi.mp/c97b90840b8d/jd-signup" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sign up for JD’s newsletter</a></li><li><a href="http://cosmologyinconcert.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cosmology in Concert</a> </li><li>Closing Poem - <a href="https://www.jdstillwater.earth/poetry/#Wellsprings" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wellsprings</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Forsythia Metaphor: Growth Through Adversity<br />02:31 Introducing JD Stillwater: A Science Ambassador's Journey<br />06:57 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality<br />11:47 Curiosity as a Guiding Principle<br />22:43 The Gateway to Understanding: Touch and Connection<br />29:19 The Nature of Existence: Flow and Evolution<br />35:52 The Nature of Existence and Death<br />38:47 Diversity and Evolution<br />41:35 Bridging Science and Spirituality<br />47:03 Reciprocity in Nature<br />52:47 Interconnectedness of Life<br />57:22 Cultural Shifts and Learning from Nature<br />01:02:15 Closing Reflections and Future Directions<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4143</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ambassador,and,cultural,evolution,interconnectedness,nature,reciprocity,science,shifts,spirituality,worldview</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Season 3 Introduction: Love &amp; Reciprocity - Recorded Live from the Wild Goose Festival</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/season-3-introduction-love-reciprocity-recorded-live-from-the-wild-goose-festival--68045188</link><description><![CDATA[Note: This episode was recorded live at the Wild Goose Festival. The audio quality does not meet our typicaly standards, but isn't that life... a little messy and not always meeting the standard?<br /><br />Welcome to Season 3 of Radical Sacred! In our season opener we find ourselves having a beautiful time at The Wild Goose Festival in Harmony, North Carolina. Spending 4 days camping under the stars, listening and learning from progressive speakers from vastly different backgrounds, meeting like minded friends, leading contemplative nature walks, and seeing butterflies of all kinds feels like the perfect start to our season of reciprocity. Moving towards a system that is mutually beneficial to all beings matters not only for our survival, but we believe will lead us on a pathway toward a more equitable, nature centered, kinder world. Join us as we speak to authors, thinkers, scientists, and naturalists this season as we explore the beauty of living reciprocally. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival </a></li><li><a href="https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Serviceberry, Gathering Moss, or Braiding Sweetgrass  by: Robin Wall Kimmerer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kaitlincurtice.com/books/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living Resistance Kaitlin B Curtice </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2072325" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World as Lover World as Self Joanna Macy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Divina</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Welcome to Season Three of Radical Sacred<br />03:31 Exploring the Wild Goose Festival Experience<br />06:01 The Spirit of Inclusion and Community<br />07:11 Introducing the Theme of Reciprocity<br />07:11 Understanding Reciprocity<br />15:21 The Importance of Reciprocity in Society<br />18:17 Nature's Role in Reciprocity<br />21:23 Personal Stories of Reciprocity<br />24:13 Reciprocity in Human Relationships<br />27:13 Exploring Literature on Reciprocity<br />28:39 Radical Sacred_outro.mp3<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68045188</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 07:30:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68045188/riverside_phil_sep_18_2025_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="27797673" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Note: This episode was recorded live at the Wild Goose Festival. The audio quality does not meet our typicaly standards, but isn't that life... a little messy and not always meeting the standard?

Welcome to Season 3 of Radical Sacred! In our season...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Note: This episode was recorded live at the Wild Goose Festival. The audio quality does not meet our typicaly standards, but isn't that life... a little messy and not always meeting the standard?<br /><br />Welcome to Season 3 of Radical Sacred! In our season opener we find ourselves having a beautiful time at The Wild Goose Festival in Harmony, North Carolina. Spending 4 days camping under the stars, listening and learning from progressive speakers from vastly different backgrounds, meeting like minded friends, leading contemplative nature walks, and seeing butterflies of all kinds feels like the perfect start to our season of reciprocity. Moving towards a system that is mutually beneficial to all beings matters not only for our survival, but we believe will lead us on a pathway toward a more equitable, nature centered, kinder world. Join us as we speak to authors, thinkers, scientists, and naturalists this season as we explore the beauty of living reciprocally. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festival </a></li><li><a href="https://www.robinwallkimmerer.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Serviceberry, Gathering Moss, or Braiding Sweetgrass  by: Robin Wall Kimmerer</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kaitlincurtice.com/books/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living Resistance Kaitlin B Curtice </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2072325" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">World as Lover World as Self Joanna Macy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.unforcedrhythms.org/contemplative-spirituality/terra-divina/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Divina</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Welcome to Season Three of Radical Sacred<br />03:31 Exploring the Wild Goose Festival Experience<br />06:01 The Spirit of Inclusion and Community<br />07:11 Introducing the Theme of Reciprocity<br />07:11 Understanding Reciprocity<br />15:21 The Importance of Reciprocity in Society<br />18:17 Nature's Role in Reciprocity<br />21:23 Personal Stories of Reciprocity<br />24:13 Reciprocity in Human Relationships<br />27:13 Exploring Literature on Reciprocity<br />28:39 Radical Sacred_outro.mp3<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1738</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>awareness,community,environmental,festival,goose,growth,interconnectedness,kimmerer,mutuality,nature,personal,reciprocity,relationships,robinwallkimmerer,wild,wildgoose</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. Zach Lambert's Public Theology from the Heart of Texas</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-zach-lambert-s-public-theology-from-the-heart-of-texas--66989850</link><description><![CDATA[We have a lovely, winding, Texas filled conversation with Zach Lambert of Restore, ATX. Zach is a native Austinite, father and husband, the author of Better Ways to Read the Bible as well as Co-Author (alongside Amy Lambert) of the Substack Public Theology. Zach visits with us about his pilgrimage into open hearted theology, his heart for multi-generational community, and his invitation to a more imaginative, empathetic way of being and reading scripture. This episode is dedicated to the Texas Hill Country and her people. <br /><br />References fromt this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.restoreaustin.org/our-team/zach" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Restore ATX </a></li><li><a href="https://zachwlambert.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Public Theology </a></li><li><a href="https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/617965" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Better Ways to Read the Bible - Zach’s new book </a></li><li>Find Zach on Socials <a href="https://twitter.com/zachwlambert" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@zachwlambert </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/57182-i-have-said-that-texas-is-a-state-of-mind" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Steinbeck quote about Texas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrMQOtMkC9s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hill Country Theme </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/where-to-donate-help-central-texas-flood-recovery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Help Victims of the Texas Floods </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Texas: A State of Mind<br />03:53 Introducing Zach Lambert: A Texan Perspective<br />09:43 Navigating the Flood: Community Resilience<br />15:34 The Journey of Faith: Personal Transformations<br />23:35 Unraveling Beliefs: The Importance of Community<br />27:16 Pilgrimage of Faith: The Ongoing Journey<br />32:23 Restoration and Imagination: The Future of Church<br />40:26 Staying Rooted: Finding Joy Amidst Struggles<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66989850</guid><pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66989850/zach_lambert.mp3" length="48205483" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We have a lovely, winding, Texas filled conversation with Zach Lambert of Restore, ATX. Zach is a native Austinite, father and husband, the author of Better Ways to Read the Bible as well as Co-Author (alongside Amy Lambert) of the Substack Public...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We have a lovely, winding, Texas filled conversation with Zach Lambert of Restore, ATX. Zach is a native Austinite, father and husband, the author of Better Ways to Read the Bible as well as Co-Author (alongside Amy Lambert) of the Substack Public Theology. Zach visits with us about his pilgrimage into open hearted theology, his heart for multi-generational community, and his invitation to a more imaginative, empathetic way of being and reading scripture. This episode is dedicated to the Texas Hill Country and her people. <br /><br />References fromt this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.restoreaustin.org/our-team/zach" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Restore ATX </a></li><li><a href="https://zachwlambert.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Substack - Public Theology </a></li><li><a href="https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/617965" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Better Ways to Read the Bible - Zach’s new book </a></li><li>Find Zach on Socials <a href="https://twitter.com/zachwlambert" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@zachwlambert </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/57182-i-have-said-that-texas-is-a-state-of-mind" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Steinbeck quote about Texas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrMQOtMkC9s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hill Country Theme </a></li><li><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/where-to-donate-help-central-texas-flood-recovery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Help Victims of the Texas Floods </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Texas: A State of Mind<br />03:53 Introducing Zach Lambert: A Texan Perspective<br />09:43 Navigating the Flood: Community Resilience<br />15:34 The Journey of Faith: Personal Transformations<br />23:35 Unraveling Beliefs: The Importance of Community<br />27:16 Pilgrimage of Faith: The Ongoing Journey<br />32:23 Restoration and Imagination: The Future of Church<br />40:26 Staying Rooted: Finding Joy Amidst Struggles<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3013</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>bible,church,community,faith,intergenerational,journey,justice,personal,public,relationships,resilience,restoration,restore,social,texas,theology</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage to Peace with Colleen Moore</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-to-peace-with-colleen-moore--66907191</link><description><![CDATA[Colleen Moore is the director of Peace With Justice at the General Board of Church and Society for the UMC. She joins us today to talk about a recent Young Adult Pilgrimage of Peace she helped facilitate in South Korea. What can we learn from bearing witness to spaces and places where there has been great suffering?  How might walking with others in places very different from our usual bring about personal and communal transformation? Colleen shares about her own personal guides, her deep call to peace and dignity for all, and her commitment to sharing stories to shape real change. <br />Stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <ul><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/who-we-are/meet-the-staff/colleen-moore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Contact Colleen Moore</a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/documents/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Social Principles of the UMC</a></li><li><a href="https://worldmethodistcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025-Young-Adult-Pilgrimage-of-Peace-YAPP-1-1.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Young Adult Pilgrimage of Peace - South Korea</a></li><li><a href="https://koreapeacenow.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Korea Peace Now!</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-bridge-at-no-gun-ri-a-hidden-nightmare-from-the-korean-war_martha-mendoza_sang-hun-choe/547875/?srsltid=AfmBOoqhETvXi3LXwlj-5eNMKUtlVaAr-yljpoKHvFRpUizfPOLbLucx#edition=404477&amp;idiq=5483596" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Book - The Bridge at No Gun Ri: A Hidden Nightmare from the Korean War</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womencrossdmz.org/christine-ahn/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WomenCrossDMZ - Christine Ahn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-rapture-exposed-the-message-of-hope-in-the-book-of-revelation_barbara-r-rossing/321177/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=us_dsa_general_232080312&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=475022632712&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=232080312&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwY45gP93soQuh6tErDwd9c3ziXt&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu62otPDWDolpxTvaSjzKoy3-xv_xSQ_B8myi_t6pYjwgZBZJbV4EwxoCISMQAvD_BwE#edition=4474814&amp;idiq=4181815" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Rapture Exposed: The Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/what-you-can-do/take-action-2025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UMC Action Alerts</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/content/new-pages-for-progress-resource-guide" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pages for Progress</a> - UMC Book Studies (<a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/latest/the-new-pages-for-progress-book-study-guide-on-faith-and-hope-in-the-face-of-oppression-5653" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith in the Face of Empire study</a>)</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Opening Reflections and Poetic Introduction<br />01:06 Acknowledging Global Pain and Unrest<br />02:26 Introducing Colleen Moore and Her Work<br />03:59 Personal Reflections on Heavy Times<br />06:39 Finding Joy Amidst Struggles<br />08:26 Understanding the Pilgrimage Experience<br />08:38 The Young Adult Peace Pilgrimage Explained<br />10:04 Witnessing History: The Gowlingeol Massacre Site<br />12:19 Activating Change Through Pilgrimage<br />15:43 Surprises and Emotional Impact of the Pilgrimage<br />18:43 Power, Empire, and Advocacy Challenges<br />24:24 The Importance of Storytelling in Advocacy<br />27:20 Personal Narratives and Activism<br />28:11 Guides and Mentors in the Journey<br />30:56 The Importance of Bearing Witness<br />33:56 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications<br />38:58 Pilgrimage as a Spiritual Journey<br />41:03 Connecting with Community and Action<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66907191</guid><pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66907191/radical_sacred.mp3" length="46615150" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Colleen Moore is the director of Peace With Justice at the General Board of Church and Society for the UMC. She joins us today to talk about a recent Young Adult Pilgrimage of Peace she helped facilitate in South Korea. What can we learn from bearing...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Colleen Moore is the director of Peace With Justice at the General Board of Church and Society for the UMC. She joins us today to talk about a recent Young Adult Pilgrimage of Peace she helped facilitate in South Korea. What can we learn from bearing witness to spaces and places where there has been great suffering?  How might walking with others in places very different from our usual bring about personal and communal transformation? Colleen shares about her own personal guides, her deep call to peace and dignity for all, and her commitment to sharing stories to shape real change. <br />Stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <ul><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/who-we-are/meet-the-staff/colleen-moore" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Contact Colleen Moore</a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/documents/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Social Principles of the UMC</a></li><li><a href="https://worldmethodistcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/2025-Young-Adult-Pilgrimage-of-Peace-YAPP-1-1.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Young Adult Pilgrimage of Peace - South Korea</a></li><li><a href="https://koreapeacenow.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Korea Peace Now!</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-bridge-at-no-gun-ri-a-hidden-nightmare-from-the-korean-war_martha-mendoza_sang-hun-choe/547875/?srsltid=AfmBOoqhETvXi3LXwlj-5eNMKUtlVaAr-yljpoKHvFRpUizfPOLbLucx#edition=404477&amp;idiq=5483596" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Book - The Bridge at No Gun Ri: A Hidden Nightmare from the Korean War</a></li><li><a href="https://www.womencrossdmz.org/christine-ahn/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WomenCrossDMZ - Christine Ahn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-rapture-exposed-the-message-of-hope-in-the-book-of-revelation_barbara-r-rossing/321177/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=us_dsa_general_232080312&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=475022632712&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=232080312&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwY45gP93soQuh6tErDwd9c3ziXt&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwg7PDBhBxEiwAf1CVu62otPDWDolpxTvaSjzKoy3-xv_xSQ_B8myi_t6pYjwgZBZJbV4EwxoCISMQAvD_BwE#edition=4474814&amp;idiq=4181815" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Rapture Exposed: The Message of Hope in the Book of Revelation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/what-you-can-do/take-action-2025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UMC Action Alerts</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/content/new-pages-for-progress-resource-guide" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pages for Progress</a> - UMC Book Studies (<a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/latest/the-new-pages-for-progress-book-study-guide-on-faith-and-hope-in-the-face-of-oppression-5653" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith in the Face of Empire study</a>)</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Opening Reflections and Poetic Introduction<br />01:06 Acknowledging Global Pain and Unrest<br />02:26 Introducing Colleen Moore and Her Work<br />03:59 Personal Reflections on Heavy Times<br />06:39 Finding Joy Amidst Struggles<br />08:26 Understanding the Pilgrimage Experience<br />08:38 The Young Adult Peace Pilgrimage Explained<br />10:04 Witnessing History: The Gowlingeol Massacre Site<br />12:19 Activating Change Through Pilgrimage<br />15:43 Surprises and Emotional Impact of the Pilgrimage<br />18:43 Power, Empire, and Advocacy Challenges<br />24:24 The Importance of Storytelling in Advocacy<br />27:20 Personal Narratives and Activism<br />28:11 Guides and Mentors in the Journey<br />30:56 The Importance of Bearing Witness<br />33:56 Christian Nationalism and Its Implications<br />38:58 Pilgrimage as a Spiritual Journey<br />41:03 Connecting with Community and Action<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2914</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>advocacy,christian,colleen,community,engagement,global,justice,moore,nationalism,peace,personal,pilgrimage,storytelling,transformation,unrest</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Wes Granberg-Michaelson Reshapes Our Definitions of Pilgrimage</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/wes-granberg-michaelson-reshapes-our-definitions-of-pilgrimage--66714022</link><description><![CDATA[Our journey with season 2 continues to meander in beautiful and unexpected ways as we have the extreme privilege of speaking with author, pastor, theologian, and someone well seasoned in the art of pilgrimage: Wes Granberg-Michaelson! Wes blows our minds and invites us into new and deeper understandings of pilgrimage. We delve into pilgrimage as response to empire, important movements that are inviting us back to our truest selves, and what can undergird us in the uncertain times we find ourselves in. This expansive conversation was a gift to us as are all of you, dear listeners! Thanks for making season 2 a wild and lovely pilgrimage. <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631498053" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Wandering Mind: What Medieval Monks did about Mental Distraction by: Jamie Kreiner</a> </li><li><a href="https://sojo.net/biography/wesley-granberg-michaelson" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wesley Granberg-Michaelson Sojourners </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wesgm.com/without-oars" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Without Oars: Casting Off into a Life of Pilgrimage</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Soulwork-Justice-Movements-Contemplative-Action/dp/1626986282" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Soulwork of Justice: Four Movements of Contemplative Action</a></li><li><a href="https://sojo.net/articles/opinion/strategy-christian-witness-against-trumps-autocracy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Strategy for Christian Witness against Trump’s Autocracy </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/summer-stars" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summer Stars by: Carl Sandberg</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Summer Solstice<br />01:47 Meeting Wes Granberg-Michelson<br />02:24 Wes's Journey as a Pilgrim<br />07:43 Understanding Pilgrimage and Its Dual Nature<br />09:51 Integrating Internal and External Journeys<br />16:23 Intentionality in Pilgrimage<br />25:36 Four Movements of Pilgrimage<br />31:44 Navigating the Crisis in Seminaries<br />36:11 Creating a Holding Space for Spiritual Growth<br />39:50 Walking Away from Empire: The Power of Pilgrimage<br />50:33 The Role of Nature in Spiritual Connection<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66714022</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66714022/wes_granberg_michaelson.mp3" length="57158180" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Our journey with season 2 continues to meander in beautiful and unexpected ways as we have the extreme privilege of speaking with author, pastor, theologian, and someone well seasoned in the art of pilgrimage: Wes Granberg-Michaelson! Wes blows our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Our journey with season 2 continues to meander in beautiful and unexpected ways as we have the extreme privilege of speaking with author, pastor, theologian, and someone well seasoned in the art of pilgrimage: Wes Granberg-Michaelson! Wes blows our minds and invites us into new and deeper understandings of pilgrimage. We delve into pilgrimage as response to empire, important movements that are inviting us back to our truest selves, and what can undergird us in the uncertain times we find ourselves in. This expansive conversation was a gift to us as are all of you, dear listeners! Thanks for making season 2 a wild and lovely pilgrimage. <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631498053" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Wandering Mind: What Medieval Monks did about Mental Distraction by: Jamie Kreiner</a> </li><li><a href="https://sojo.net/biography/wesley-granberg-michaelson" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wesley Granberg-Michaelson Sojourners </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wesgm.com/without-oars" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Without Oars: Casting Off into a Life of Pilgrimage</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Soulwork-Justice-Movements-Contemplative-Action/dp/1626986282" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Soulwork of Justice: Four Movements of Contemplative Action</a></li><li><a href="https://sojo.net/articles/opinion/strategy-christian-witness-against-trumps-autocracy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Strategy for Christian Witness against Trump’s Autocracy </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/summer-stars" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summer Stars by: Carl Sandberg</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Summer Solstice<br />01:47 Meeting Wes Granberg-Michelson<br />02:24 Wes's Journey as a Pilgrim<br />07:43 Understanding Pilgrimage and Its Dual Nature<br />09:51 Integrating Internal and External Journeys<br />16:23 Intentionality in Pilgrimage<br />25:36 Four Movements of Pilgrimage<br />31:44 Navigating the Crisis in Seminaries<br />36:11 Creating a Holding Space for Spiritual Growth<br />39:50 Walking Away from Empire: The Power of Pilgrimage<br />50:33 The Role of Nature in Spiritual Connection<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3573</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,empire,external,faith,granberg-michelson,intentionality,internal,journey,mysticism,nature,pilgrimage,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Walking Together, Apart</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/walking-together-apart--66592167</link><description><![CDATA[Today we leave our pent up indoor spaces and venture out for a walk together, apart. Can walking bring us closer when there’s literal distance between us? Can walking help us bridge the gap between our heart and our actions? Between where we are and where we’re meant to be? We talk about this season, the places and spaces we’ve been, our fabulous guests who’ve invited us into our own pilgrimages, and how we’re doing with all that’s shifting and changing.  <br /><br /><b>Join us Saturday June 21st at 8 am for a Conscious Nature Stroll</b>!<br />Choose your favorite walking spot or find one brand new! Season 2 is drawing to a close and a lot of pilgrimaging has occurred for us since September. We’d love to walk together, apart as we reflect on all that’s been and that’s yet to come. <br /><br />  We invite you to bring your favorite pal (dog or human, your choice), your favorite poem of the moment to begin your time, turn your phone to silent, and reflect on one or two of the questions below as you walk: <ol><li>What is drawing my eye to beauty this morning and where in my life am I being invited to bring forth, protect, or create beauty? </li><li>What is drawing my eye to suffering this morning and where in my life am I being invited to relieve suffering? Suffering in my community, in myself, in the space I’m walking?</li><li>What journey in your life is ending or needs to end? Reflect on it. </li><li>What pilgrimage is on your horizon? What is something new calling to you? </li></ol><b><br /></b>Walk for however long and you’d like and share your reflections with us on Substack or Instagram. Thank you for walking with us this season!<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Walking and Connection<br />05:43 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />12:01 The Journey of Pilgrimage and Intention<br />17:45 Attention and Awareness in Nature<br />23:40 Navigating Endings and New Opportunities<br />30:57 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />37:02 Creating Without Fear: The Joy of Expression<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66592167</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66592167/season_wrap_up.mp3" length="42842651" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today we leave our pent up indoor spaces and venture out for a walk together, apart. Can walking bring us closer when there’s literal distance between us? Can walking help us bridge the gap between our heart and our actions? Between where we are and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today we leave our pent up indoor spaces and venture out for a walk together, apart. Can walking bring us closer when there’s literal distance between us? Can walking help us bridge the gap between our heart and our actions? Between where we are and where we’re meant to be? We talk about this season, the places and spaces we’ve been, our fabulous guests who’ve invited us into our own pilgrimages, and how we’re doing with all that’s shifting and changing.  <br /><br /><b>Join us Saturday June 21st at 8 am for a Conscious Nature Stroll</b>!<br />Choose your favorite walking spot or find one brand new! Season 2 is drawing to a close and a lot of pilgrimaging has occurred for us since September. We’d love to walk together, apart as we reflect on all that’s been and that’s yet to come. <br /><br />  We invite you to bring your favorite pal (dog or human, your choice), your favorite poem of the moment to begin your time, turn your phone to silent, and reflect on one or two of the questions below as you walk: <ol><li>What is drawing my eye to beauty this morning and where in my life am I being invited to bring forth, protect, or create beauty? </li><li>What is drawing my eye to suffering this morning and where in my life am I being invited to relieve suffering? Suffering in my community, in myself, in the space I’m walking?</li><li>What journey in your life is ending or needs to end? Reflect on it. </li><li>What pilgrimage is on your horizon? What is something new calling to you? </li></ol><b><br /></b>Walk for however long and you’d like and share your reflections with us on Substack or Instagram. Thank you for walking with us this season!<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Walking and Connection<br />05:43 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />12:01 The Journey of Pilgrimage and Intention<br />17:45 Attention and Awareness in Nature<br />23:40 Navigating Endings and New Opportunities<br />30:57 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />37:02 Creating Without Fear: The Joy of Expression<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2678</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>beauty,belonging,change,community,connection,intention,journey,mindfulness,nature,pilgrimage,radical,sacred,walk,walking</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Carolyn Whitney-Brown's Journey with Henri Nouwen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/carolyn-whitney-brown-s-journey-with-henri-nouwen--66501368</link><description><![CDATA[Carolyn Whitney-Brown joins us in this playful and imaginative conversation around her and Henri Nouwen’s book Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom. Written more than 2 decades after his death and centered around Henri’s late in life experiences with the trapeze group the Flying Rodelighs, this book is a joyous invitation to expand our horizons and to follow our curiosity. What new, high flying adventures might be calling to you? Where are the communities in our lives that encourage us to live fully? Carolyn, Henri, and the Flying Rodleighs invite us all to be joyful risk takers, rooted deeply in self and community.<br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://larchedaybreak.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">L'Arche Daybreak </a></li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/flying-falling-catching-henri-j-m-nouwencarolyn-whitney-brown?variant=41551808659490" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom</a></li><li><a href="https://writersunion.ca/member/carolyn-whitneybrown" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carolyn’s Website</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Prelude: Icarus and Love<br />01:24 Introducing Carolyn Whitney: A Journey with Henry Nowen<br />02:29 Creative Exploration: Writing and Illustrating Together<br />04:38 Joyful Risk-Taking: Embracing Change in Uncertain Times<br />09:11 The Trapeze: A Metaphor for Community and Connection<br />15:15 Balancing Joy and Angst: The Duality of Henry Nowen<br />18:47 Surprises in the Process: Reflecting on Henry's Legacy<br />21:18 Henry as a Guide: Lessons from a Life of Pilgrimage<br />27:04 The Role of Discipline: Structure in Creativity<br />31:31 Overcoming Inner Criticism: The Voices in Our Heads<br />34:46 Community and Creativity: Finding Support in Unlikely Places<br />40:03 The Artist's Role: Bringing Hope Through Creativity<br />44:51 Embracing Our Ancestors: The Interplay of Joy and Woe<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66501368</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66501368/carolyn_whitney_brown.mp3" length="44527451" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Carolyn Whitney-Brown joins us in this playful and imaginative conversation around her and Henri Nouwen’s book Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom. Written more than 2 decades after his death and centered around Henri’s...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Carolyn Whitney-Brown joins us in this playful and imaginative conversation around her and Henri Nouwen’s book Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom. Written more than 2 decades after his death and centered around Henri’s late in life experiences with the trapeze group the Flying Rodelighs, this book is a joyous invitation to expand our horizons and to follow our curiosity. What new, high flying adventures might be calling to you? Where are the communities in our lives that encourage us to live fully? Carolyn, Henri, and the Flying Rodleighs invite us all to be joyful risk takers, rooted deeply in self and community.<br /><br />Show Notes:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://larchedaybreak.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">L'Arche Daybreak </a></li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/flying-falling-catching-henri-j-m-nouwencarolyn-whitney-brown?variant=41551808659490" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Flying, Falling, Catching: An Unlikely Story of Finding Freedom</a></li><li><a href="https://writersunion.ca/member/carolyn-whitneybrown" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carolyn’s Website</a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Poetic Prelude: Icarus and Love<br />01:24 Introducing Carolyn Whitney: A Journey with Henry Nowen<br />02:29 Creative Exploration: Writing and Illustrating Together<br />04:38 Joyful Risk-Taking: Embracing Change in Uncertain Times<br />09:11 The Trapeze: A Metaphor for Community and Connection<br />15:15 Balancing Joy and Angst: The Duality of Henry Nowen<br />18:47 Surprises in the Process: Reflecting on Henry's Legacy<br />21:18 Henry as a Guide: Lessons from a Life of Pilgrimage<br />27:04 The Role of Discipline: Structure in Creativity<br />31:31 Overcoming Inner Criticism: The Voices in Our Heads<br />34:46 Community and Creativity: Finding Support in Unlikely Places<br />40:03 The Artist's Role: Bringing Hope Through Creativity<br />44:51 Embracing Our Ancestors: The Interplay of Joy and Woe<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2783</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>angst,community,creativity,henrinouwen,hope,joy,radicalsacred,risk-taking,sacred,spirituality,trapeze</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Honest Endings, Gilead, and Easter Wrestling with Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/honest-endings-gilead-and-easter-wrestling-with-rev-rebecca-anderson-and-rev-vince-amlin--66368273</link><description><![CDATA[This week we are joined by Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin of Bethany United Church of Christ in Chicago. We chat about partnership, creating healing spaces, and learning to move with the seasons of life and the ebbs and flows of our invitations from Spirit. Vince and Rebecca share about their journey with and honest ending of their beloved, queer, storytelling, bar-meeting church, Gilead. Every pilgrimage has a beginning and an end. What might we learn from ending things intentionally and with the Cosmic Christ in mind? And how might the things that truly matter to us transcend literal endings? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<ul><li><a href="https://www.bethanychicago.com/pastor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bethany United Church of Christ (Find Vince and Rebecca here) </a></li><li><a href="https://www.earshotstories.com/about-us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earshot Stories </a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/vamlin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vince Pilgrimages</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92kaGsA6dRs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What Sucks About the Afterlife by Andrea Gibson </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Reflections on the Afterlife and Personal Growth<br />02:06 Introduction to Gilead Church and Its Mission<br />03:47 Founding Stories: The Birth of Gilead Church<br />07:15 The Significance of the Name 'Gilead'<br />08:54 Queerness and Storytelling: Core Values of Gilead<br />15:53 Understanding Pilgrimage in the Context of Gilead<br />16:35 The Essence of Pilgrimage<br />20:52 Intentionality in Community<br />27:10 Embracing Endings with Grace<br />33:20 Transformative Experiences and Future Directions<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66368273</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66368273/riverside_rebecca_vince_jennym_full_episode_may_27_radical_sacred.mp3" length="43333634" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we are joined by Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin of Bethany United Church of Christ in Chicago. We chat about partnership, creating healing spaces, and learning to move with the seasons of life and the ebbs and flows of our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we are joined by Rev. Rebecca Anderson and Rev. Vince Amlin of Bethany United Church of Christ in Chicago. We chat about partnership, creating healing spaces, and learning to move with the seasons of life and the ebbs and flows of our invitations from Spirit. Vince and Rebecca share about their journey with and honest ending of their beloved, queer, storytelling, bar-meeting church, Gilead. Every pilgrimage has a beginning and an end. What might we learn from ending things intentionally and with the Cosmic Christ in mind? And how might the things that truly matter to us transcend literal endings? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<ul><li><a href="https://www.bethanychicago.com/pastor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bethany United Church of Christ (Find Vince and Rebecca here) </a></li><li><a href="https://www.earshotstories.com/about-us" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earshot Stories </a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/vamlin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vince Pilgrimages</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92kaGsA6dRs" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What Sucks About the Afterlife by Andrea Gibson </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Reflections on the Afterlife and Personal Growth<br />02:06 Introduction to Gilead Church and Its Mission<br />03:47 Founding Stories: The Birth of Gilead Church<br />07:15 The Significance of the Name 'Gilead'<br />08:54 Queerness and Storytelling: Core Values of Gilead<br />15:53 Understanding Pilgrimage in the Context of Gilead<br />16:35 The Essence of Pilgrimage<br />20:52 Intentionality in Community<br />27:10 Embracing Endings with Grace<br />33:20 Transformative Experiences and Future Directions<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2709</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>chicago,church,community,endings,faith,gilead,growth,intentionality,mission,pilgrimage,queer,spirituality,storytelling</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Intersection of Science and Spirituality Through the Life of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-intersection-of-science-and-spirituality-through-the-life-of-pierre-teilhard-de-chardin--66306007</link><description><![CDATA[We are thrilled to chat with Frank and Mary Frost who are partners in life and film making! Today we talk about their fabulous, Emmy nominated, documentary about French scientist and Jesuit Priest, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Teilhard was a feminist, a visionary thinker, a paleontologist, and a man way before his time. When met with new information that challenged his religious ideals, he didn’t shrink, but he expanded to meet the moment. What might we learn from his ecstatic, open hearted  way of moving through the world? Might Teilhard have something to teach us about the intersection of science and spirituality? Join this week's conversation to find out!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<ul><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/video/teilhard-visionary-scientist-pt9dc1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Documentary - Teilhard: Visionary Scientist</a></li><li><a href="https://www.teilhardproject.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teilhard Project</a></li><li><a href="https://teilharddechardin.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">American Teilhard Association</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/milieu-divin_pierre-teilhard-de-chardin/288044/item/4349204/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_retention_21262958110&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=698403107263&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=21262958110&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwY45hifGfdvOtWNuN4FCgkHC9ZT&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwxdXBBhDEARIsAAUkP6hQzDOCCCp2jR1U-3e2IERWADktI-TFnshMaHhrESmHbsRrelpF3CYaAlGGEALw_wcB#idiq=4349204&amp;edition=2336424" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Divine Milieu </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Vision of Teilhard de Chardin<br />05:32 The Journey of Filmmaking and Discovery<br />09:37 The Relevance of Teilhard Today<br />14:35 Loyalty and Steadfastness in Faith<br />20:27 The Complexity of Love and Relationships<br />24:07 Expanding Spirit and Curiosity<br />25:55 The Omega Point and Spirit-Matter Unity<br />28:17 The Omega Point and Evolution<br />31:41 Feminism and the Eternal Feminine<br />35:49 Paleolithic Emotions and Modern Challenges<br />39:49 Ecstasy and the Mystical Experience<br />45:04 Pilgrimage and the Search for the Divine<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66306007</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66306007/teilhard.mp3" length="50970697" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are thrilled to chat with Frank and Mary Frost who are partners in life and film making! Today we talk about their fabulous, Emmy nominated, documentary about French scientist and Jesuit Priest, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Teilhard was a feminist,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are thrilled to chat with Frank and Mary Frost who are partners in life and film making! Today we talk about their fabulous, Emmy nominated, documentary about French scientist and Jesuit Priest, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Teilhard was a feminist, a visionary thinker, a paleontologist, and a man way before his time. When met with new information that challenged his religious ideals, he didn’t shrink, but he expanded to meet the moment. What might we learn from his ecstatic, open hearted  way of moving through the world? Might Teilhard have something to teach us about the intersection of science and spirituality? Join this week's conversation to find out!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<ul><li><a href="https://www.pbs.org/video/teilhard-visionary-scientist-pt9dc1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Documentary - Teilhard: Visionary Scientist</a></li><li><a href="https://www.teilhardproject.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teilhard Project</a></li><li><a href="https://teilharddechardin.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">American Teilhard Association</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/milieu-divin_pierre-teilhard-de-chardin/288044/item/4349204/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_retention_21262958110&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=698403107263&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=21262958110&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADwY45hifGfdvOtWNuN4FCgkHC9ZT&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjwxdXBBhDEARIsAAUkP6hQzDOCCCp2jR1U-3e2IERWADktI-TFnshMaHhrESmHbsRrelpF3CYaAlGGEALw_wcB#idiq=4349204&amp;edition=2336424" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Divine Milieu </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Vision of Teilhard de Chardin<br />05:32 The Journey of Filmmaking and Discovery<br />09:37 The Relevance of Teilhard Today<br />14:35 Loyalty and Steadfastness in Faith<br />20:27 The Complexity of Love and Relationships<br />24:07 Expanding Spirit and Curiosity<br />25:55 The Omega Point and Spirit-Matter Unity<br />28:17 The Omega Point and Evolution<br />31:41 Feminism and the Eternal Feminine<br />35:49 Paleolithic Emotions and Modern Challenges<br />39:49 Ecstasy and the Mystical Experience<br />45:04 Pilgrimage and the Search for the Divine<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3186</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>consciousness,curiosity,documentary,evolution,faith,feminism,jesuit,journey,love,omega,pilgrimage,science,spirituality,teilhard</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Chelan Harkin and the Ecstatic Path</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/chelan-harkin-and-the-ecstatic-path--66179129</link><description><![CDATA[Chelan Harkin joins us today on this meandering and moving conversation about the path of ecstatic movement. When we dial in to our truest selves, what mystical downloads from the universe might we receive? When we follow desire, where might our destination be? And how can a seemingly small act, like learning to trust the gentle nudges of the universe, lead us back to us? Spending time with Chelan is like diving into the deep waters she’s named after, it’s inviting and cool and totally refreshing. We hope you’ll dive in with us, into all the spaces and places that make you, you.<br /> <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://chelanharkinpoetry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chelan Harkin Poetry </a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/chani.harkin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Find Chelan’s Events on her FB page</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B08PL55XMD/allbooks?ingress=0&amp;visitId=203ed982-b112-49c5-af36-012c467b380f&amp;ref_=ap_rdr&amp;ccs_id=24137a5d-15be-4fe3-b34c-52408cbaf360" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chelan’s books </a></li><li><a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/22676-hypnosis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hypno-therapy</a></li><li><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-somatic-therapy-202307072951" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Somatic Therapy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/22330-to-live-in-this-world-you-must-be-able-to" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">To live in this World by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Ecstatic Spark of Creativity<br />02:39 The Journey of a Poet: From Hesitation to Expression<br />05:34 The Prayer Experiment: Connecting with the Muse<br />08:27 The Cosmic Connection: Co-authoring with Daniel Ladinsky<br />10:26 Listening to the Nudges: Intuition and Inner Guidance<br />11:35 The Pilgrimage of Refining: Embracing Pain for Growth<br />17:09 Nature as a Healing Force: Reconnecting with the Earth<br />21:57 Somatic Practices: Grounding in the Body<br />27:09 Finding Home in Nature: Personal Connections to the Land<br />28:33 Connecting with Nature and Desire<br />32:51 The Power of Surrender and Flow<br />36:14 The Evolution of God and Language<br />41:42 Myths and Collective Consciousness<br />46:01 Guides and Mentorship on the Journey<br /><br /><b>Announcement</b><br />Radical Sacred will be at this year's <a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festiva</a>l leading a nature walk we are calling, "Walking the Illuminated Path: A Conscious Stroll in Nature." Using the practice of terra divina (reading nature as a sacred text) we will go for a conscious nature walk employing our 5 senses. When we slow down and center nature what might we hear from the Divine? From the depths of our own heart? From the earth? Invitations from our still wild selves are waiting for us in nature. How will we respond?<br /><br />If you'd like to join us <b>August 28-31 in Harmony, NC</b> Radical Sacred listeners get a discount on their registration. When checking out use code <b>A-RS</b> for $50 off the total price.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66179129</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66179129/chelan_harkin.mp3" length="50915949" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Chelan Harkin joins us today on this meandering and moving conversation about the path of ecstatic movement. When we dial in to our truest selves, what mystical downloads from the universe might we receive? When we follow desire, where might our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Chelan Harkin joins us today on this meandering and moving conversation about the path of ecstatic movement. When we dial in to our truest selves, what mystical downloads from the universe might we receive? When we follow desire, where might our destination be? And how can a seemingly small act, like learning to trust the gentle nudges of the universe, lead us back to us? Spending time with Chelan is like diving into the deep waters she’s named after, it’s inviting and cool and totally refreshing. We hope you’ll dive in with us, into all the spaces and places that make you, you.<br /> <br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://chelanharkinpoetry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chelan Harkin Poetry </a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/chani.harkin" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Find Chelan’s Events on her FB page</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B08PL55XMD/allbooks?ingress=0&amp;visitId=203ed982-b112-49c5-af36-012c467b380f&amp;ref_=ap_rdr&amp;ccs_id=24137a5d-15be-4fe3-b34c-52408cbaf360" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chelan’s books </a></li><li><a href="https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/22676-hypnosis" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hypno-therapy</a></li><li><a href="https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/what-is-somatic-therapy-202307072951" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Somatic Therapy </a></li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/22330-to-live-in-this-world-you-must-be-able-to" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">To live in this World by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Ecstatic Spark of Creativity<br />02:39 The Journey of a Poet: From Hesitation to Expression<br />05:34 The Prayer Experiment: Connecting with the Muse<br />08:27 The Cosmic Connection: Co-authoring with Daniel Ladinsky<br />10:26 Listening to the Nudges: Intuition and Inner Guidance<br />11:35 The Pilgrimage of Refining: Embracing Pain for Growth<br />17:09 Nature as a Healing Force: Reconnecting with the Earth<br />21:57 Somatic Practices: Grounding in the Body<br />27:09 Finding Home in Nature: Personal Connections to the Land<br />28:33 Connecting with Nature and Desire<br />32:51 The Power of Surrender and Flow<br />36:14 The Evolution of God and Language<br />41:42 Myths and Collective Consciousness<br />46:01 Guides and Mentorship on the Journey<br /><br /><b>Announcement</b><br />Radical Sacred will be at this year's <a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wild Goose Festiva</a>l leading a nature walk we are calling, "Walking the Illuminated Path: A Conscious Stroll in Nature." Using the practice of terra divina (reading nature as a sacred text) we will go for a conscious nature walk employing our 5 senses. When we slow down and center nature what might we hear from the Divine? From the depths of our own heart? From the earth? Invitations from our still wild selves are waiting for us in nature. How will we respond?<br /><br />If you'd like to join us <b>August 28-31 in Harmony, NC</b> Radical Sacred listeners get a discount on their registration. When checking out use code <b>A-RS</b> for $50 off the total price.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3183</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>awakening,creativity,desire,emotional,flow,gibran,healing,intuition,khalil,mentorship,nature,poetry,prophet,prophetess,radical,release,sacred,spiritual</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms is a Social Alchemist and Lover of Trees</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/dr-tamice-spencer-helms-is-a-social-alchemist-and-lover-of-trees--66079783</link><description><![CDATA[Today we go on a journey back to our truest selves with Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms. They talk to us about finding uncoerced worship amongst the redwood trees, the beauty in connecting with other folks who invite us into our own aliveness, and all the ways we are being asked to remember that we ARE nature. What if we started actually emulating Jesus? What beauty and healing could come from us wandering around in wild spaces with our weird friends? Tamice shares about finding a deep well of courage from their ancestors and from within in one of our favorite interviews of Season 2. <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <ul><li><a href="https://tamicenamaespeaks.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tamice Namae Speaks</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tamicenamaespeaks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Website</a></li><li><a href="https://mixtapepraxus.squarespace.com/restmixtape" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">R.E.S.T. Mixtape </a></li><li><a href="https://www.faithunleavened.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith Unleavened The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin &amp; George Floyd</a></li><li><a href="https://tmf-fdn.org/loans" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Texas Methodist Foundation </a></li><li><a href="https://ccda.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christian Community Development Association</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3363032/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ryan Coogler</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/159626/snake-plant" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snake Plant by: KB Brookins</a></li><li><a href="https://wesleyanimpactpartners.org/news/wesleyan-impact-partners-receives-1-25-million-grant-from-lilly-endowment-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Phygital Preaching Fellows </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Growth<br />03:02 Embracing Ancestry and Nature<br />05:53 Navigating Identity and Belonging<br />09:04 The Power of Non-Coercive Worship<br />12:03 Reconnecting with Intuition<br />14:57 Expanding Spiritual Frameworks<br />17:54 The Great Awakening and Community<br />20:57 Wandering Together in Faith<br />30:07 The Power of Community and Flock Religion<br />31:04 The Hush Harbor: A Historical Perspective<br />34:47 Resurrection Technology: The Impulse for Freedom<br />42:34 Courage in the Face of Adversity<br />48:59 Rethinking Freedom and Resistance<br />54:52 Wrestling with Scripture and Spirituality<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66079783</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66079783/tamice.mp3" length="51330558" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today we go on a journey back to our truest selves with Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms. They talk to us about finding uncoerced worship amongst the redwood trees, the beauty in connecting with other folks who invite us into our own aliveness, and all the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today we go on a journey back to our truest selves with Dr. Tamice Spencer-Helms. They talk to us about finding uncoerced worship amongst the redwood trees, the beauty in connecting with other folks who invite us into our own aliveness, and all the ways we are being asked to remember that we ARE nature. What if we started actually emulating Jesus? What beauty and healing could come from us wandering around in wild spaces with our weird friends? Tamice shares about finding a deep well of courage from their ancestors and from within in one of our favorite interviews of Season 2. <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <ul><li><a href="https://tamicenamaespeaks.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tamice Namae Speaks</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tamicenamaespeaks.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Website</a></li><li><a href="https://mixtapepraxus.squarespace.com/restmixtape" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">R.E.S.T. Mixtape </a></li><li><a href="https://www.faithunleavened.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith Unleavened The Wilderness Between Trayvon Martin &amp; George Floyd</a></li><li><a href="https://tmf-fdn.org/loans" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Texas Methodist Foundation </a></li><li><a href="https://ccda.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christian Community Development Association</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3363032/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ryan Coogler</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/159626/snake-plant" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snake Plant by: KB Brookins</a></li><li><a href="https://wesleyanimpactpartners.org/news/wesleyan-impact-partners-receives-1-25-million-grant-from-lilly-endowment-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Phygital Preaching Fellows </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Growth<br />03:02 Embracing Ancestry and Nature<br />05:53 Navigating Identity and Belonging<br />09:04 The Power of Non-Coercive Worship<br />12:03 Reconnecting with Intuition<br />14:57 Expanding Spiritual Frameworks<br />17:54 The Great Awakening and Community<br />20:57 Wandering Together in Faith<br />30:07 The Power of Community and Flock Religion<br />31:04 The Hush Harbor: A Historical Perspective<br />34:47 Resurrection Technology: The Impulse for Freedom<br />42:34 Courage in the Face of Adversity<br />48:59 Rethinking Freedom and Resistance<br />54:52 Wrestling with Scripture and Spirituality<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3209</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,christianity,community,courage,faith,hushharbor,identity,intuition,jesus,nature,resurrection,spirituality,technology,trees</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Bill Holston Believes in Safe Housing for All</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/bill-holston-believes-in-safe-housing-for-all--65960287</link><description><![CDATA[Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in nature during these trying times. What can we learn when we reflect on the slow movement of the trout lily? Bill reminds us that  oftentimes advocacy work begins with noticing what’s happening in our towns and to our neighbors. What have you noticed lately that breaks your heart or invites you into advocacy? <br />By all means, pay attention, and get started on the good work of doing your good work, friends. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://hrionline.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Human Rights Initiative of North Texas </a></li><li><a href="http://faithcommons" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith Commons</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.dallaseac.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eviction Advocacy Center - Donate to help support Bill’s work on evictions</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/tx-spring-creek-forest-preserve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spring Creek Forest Preserve</a></li><li><a href="https://www.greenlandhills.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greenland Hills Methodist Church </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Certainty-Reflective-Christian-Commitment/dp/0830822372?tag=googhydr-20&amp;source=dsa&amp;hvcampaign=books&amp;gad_campaignid=21865718810&amp;gbraid=0AAAAA-byW6CgrCHe-vB3tXo3ICQe4WiR2&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjww-HABhCGARIsALLO6XylLQCgyFBgLsje8lrSeW15BLDBwSBJuPANYM9YGqnu9ufhmSLNUuAaAvZZEALw_wcB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Book - The Myth of Certainty by Daniel Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/mission-tejas" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mission Tejas State Park </a></li><li><a href="https://deepvellum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Deep Vellum Publishing</a></li><li><a href="https://havelcenter.org/2015/05/04/disturbing-the-peace/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vaclav Havel Quote - The Politics of Hope chapter from Disturbing the Peace</a></li><li><a href="http://billholsten" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bill Holston on Instagram for nature pictures</a></li><li><a href="https://nednote.com/poem-may-by-mary-oliver/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">May by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Spirituality<br />03:04 Pilgrimage: A Journey of Purpose<br />06:02 Nature's Influence on Personal Growth<br />09:01 Justice and Advocacy: A Life's Calling<br />11:49 Faith and Activism: A Complex Relationship<br />14:51 Dallas: A City of History and Justice<br />18:10 Nature's Tenacity and Fragility<br />21:05 The Importance of Companionship in the Journey<br />33:45 Finding a Church That Aligns with Values<br />34:10 The Role of Churches in Social Justice<br />36:34 The Gap Between Desire and Action<br />39:18 Practical Solutions for Asylum Seekers<br />42:08 Finding Beauty in Nature<br />46:30 The Power of Small Actions<br />49:42 Navigating Hope and Despair<br />52:43 Understanding Hope vs. Optimism<br />55:35 Connecting with Community and Nature<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65960287</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 10:20:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65960287/bill_holston_believes_in_safe_housing_for_all.mp3" length="57280246" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Bill Holston, CEO of Dallas Eviction Advocacy Center, joins us today on the pod! We hear from Bill about eviction advocacy, the importance of all people having access to representation and safe housing, as well as how he finds connection and rest in nature during these trying times. What can we learn when we reflect on the slow movement of the trout lily? Bill reminds us that  oftentimes advocacy work begins with noticing what’s happening in our towns and to our neighbors. What have you noticed lately that breaks your heart or invites you into advocacy? <br />By all means, pay attention, and get started on the good work of doing your good work, friends. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://hrionline.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Human Rights Initiative of North Texas </a></li><li><a href="http://faithcommons" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Faith Commons</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.dallaseac.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eviction Advocacy Center - Donate to help support Bill’s work on evictions</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/tx-spring-creek-forest-preserve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spring Creek Forest Preserve</a></li><li><a href="https://www.greenlandhills.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greenland Hills Methodist Church </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Certainty-Reflective-Christian-Commitment/dp/0830822372?tag=googhydr-20&amp;source=dsa&amp;hvcampaign=books&amp;gad_campaignid=21865718810&amp;gbraid=0AAAAA-byW6CgrCHe-vB3tXo3ICQe4WiR2&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjww-HABhCGARIsALLO6XylLQCgyFBgLsje8lrSeW15BLDBwSBJuPANYM9YGqnu9ufhmSLNUuAaAvZZEALw_wcB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Book - The Myth of Certainty by Daniel Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://tpwd.texas.gov/state-parks/mission-tejas" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mission Tejas State Park </a></li><li><a href="https://deepvellum.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Deep Vellum Publishing</a></li><li><a href="https://havelcenter.org/2015/05/04/disturbing-the-peace/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vaclav Havel Quote - The Politics of Hope chapter from Disturbing the Peace</a></li><li><a href="http://billholsten" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bill Holston on Instagram for nature pictures</a></li><li><a href="https://nednote.com/poem-may-by-mary-oliver/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">May by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Beauty of Nature and Spirituality<br />03:04 Pilgrimage: A Journey of Purpose<br />06:02 Nature's Influence on Personal Growth<br />09:01 Justice and Advocacy: A Life's Calling<br />11:49 Faith and Activism: A Complex Relationship<br />14:51 Dallas: A City of History and Justice<br />18:10 Nature's Tenacity and Fragility<br />21:05 The Importance of Companionship in the Journey<br />33:45 Finding a Church That Aligns with Values<br />34:10 The Role of Churches in Social Justice<br />36:34 The Gap Between Desire and Action<br />39:18 Practical Solutions for Asylum Seekers<br />42:08 Finding Beauty in Nature<br />46:30 The Power of Small Actions<br />49:42 Navigating Hope and Despair<br />52:43 Understanding Hope vs. Optimism<br />55:35 Connecting with Community and Nature<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3580</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,community,dallas,faith,hope,housing,immigration,justice,lawyer,lawyers,nature,pilgrimage,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. Tim Clifford Invites Us to Reengage Joy</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-tim-clifford-invites-us-to-reengage-joy--65799478</link><description><![CDATA[This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance sports, theology, TTRPG’s, imagination, and more. In these dark times it can be tempting to give into cynicism and hopelessness. Rev. Tim reminds us that we can walk a different path, one that’s intentional and filled with curiosity and connection. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://timclifford.substack.com/?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theology of a Recovering Cynic </a></li><li><a href="https://ahumcfw.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Arlington Heights UMC</a></li><li><a href="http://encounterworshipfw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encounter Worship Fort Worth </a></li><li><a href="https://thomasjayoord.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thomas J. Oord</a></li><li><a href="https://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan McClellan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.homebrewedchristianty.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tripp Fuller</a></li><li><a href="http://bottlestickers" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tim on Bluesky </a></li><li><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/p/radical-sacred-at-wild-goose" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred at Wild Goose</a></li><li><a href="https://unearthedesf.com/sophiestrand/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Epiphany by Sophie Strand</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/remember-0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Remember by Joy Harjo </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Love and Connection<br />06:29 Endurance and Personal Growth<br />10:55 The Nature of Love<br />15:45 Theological Reflections on Power<br />20:00 Endurance Sports and Spiritual Resilience<br />28:00 The Importance of Self-Care in Ministry<br />29:53 Overcoming Cynicism Through Endurance<br />31:23 Guides on the Journey: Theological and Athletic<br />34:03 Finding Inspiration in Community<br />35:17 The Meditative Nature of Endurance Sports<br />37:04 Rest and Hobbies: Balancing Life and Wellness<br />40:16 Creation as a Route Away from Cynicism<br />42:30 Integrating Theology and Daily Life<br />43:00 Connecting Through Community and Events<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65799478</guid><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65799478/tim_clifford.mp3" length="40682220" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we chat with Rev. Tim Clifford about his journey out of cynicism and how he’s learning to reengage with joy. Tim’s substack, Theology of a Recovering Cynic, follows his movement back towards a truer version of himself through endurance sports, theology, TTRPG’s, imagination, and more. In these dark times it can be tempting to give into cynicism and hopelessness. Rev. Tim reminds us that we can walk a different path, one that’s intentional and filled with curiosity and connection. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://timclifford.substack.com/?utm_source=global-search" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Theology of a Recovering Cynic </a></li><li><a href="https://ahumcfw.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Arlington Heights UMC</a></li><li><a href="http://encounterworshipfw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encounter Worship Fort Worth </a></li><li><a href="https://thomasjayoord.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thomas J. Oord</a></li><li><a href="https://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan McClellan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.homebrewedchristianty.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tripp Fuller</a></li><li><a href="http://bottlestickers" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tim on Bluesky </a></li><li><a href="https://radicalsacred.substack.com/p/radical-sacred-at-wild-goose" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred at Wild Goose</a></li><li><a href="https://unearthedesf.com/sophiestrand/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Epiphany by Sophie Strand</a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/remember-0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Remember by Joy Harjo </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Love and Connection<br />06:29 Endurance and Personal Growth<br />10:55 The Nature of Love<br />15:45 Theological Reflections on Power<br />20:00 Endurance Sports and Spiritual Resilience<br />28:00 The Importance of Self-Care in Ministry<br />29:53 Overcoming Cynicism Through Endurance<br />31:23 Guides on the Journey: Theological and Athletic<br />34:03 Finding Inspiration in Community<br />35:17 The Meditative Nature of Endurance Sports<br />37:04 Rest and Hobbies: Balancing Life and Wellness<br />40:16 Creation as a Route Away from Cynicism<br />42:30 Integrating Theology and Daily Life<br />43:00 Connecting Through Community and Events<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2543</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,creativity,cynicism,endurance,fortworth,hope,love,pilgrimage,radical,radicalsacred,relationships,resilience,sacred,spirituality,theology,umc</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage with Pegasus</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-with-pegasus--65673528</link><description><![CDATA[This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for everyone, therapy and the coming together of all of the above. Steph and Satchel share with us about being partners in life and in business and all the ways care, connection, and community can bring us together. What happens when tattooing and wellness are combined in an inclusive space? Join us to find out! <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://boykeats.tumblr.com/post/708923399751286784/the-strawberry-poem-by-keaton-st-james-patreon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://boykeats.tumblr.com/post/708923399751286784/the-strawberry-poem-by-keaton-st-james-patreon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Strawberry Poem by Keaton St. James </a></li><li><a href="https://www.vagaro.com/pegasustattoostudios" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus on Insta</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vagaro.com/pegasustattoostudios" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus Tattoo </a></li><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/satchel-james-victory-dallas-tx/1308829" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Satchel Victory Psychology Today</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108037/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sandlot </a> </li></ul><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65673528</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:15:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65673528/pegasus.mp3" length="57212080" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week’s episode is a creative and soulful collab with Stephanie Adelina and Satchel Victory of Pegasus Tattoo and Wellness! While Stephanie gives Jenny a gorgeous strawberry tattoo we chat about trauma informed care, creating safe spaces for everyone, therapy and the coming together of all of the above. Steph and Satchel share with us about being partners in life and in business and all the ways care, connection, and community can bring us together. What happens when tattooing and wellness are combined in an inclusive space? Join us to find out! <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://boykeats.tumblr.com/post/708923399751286784/the-strawberry-poem-by-keaton-st-james-patreon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://boykeats.tumblr.com/post/708923399751286784/the-strawberry-poem-by-keaton-st-james-patreon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Strawberry Poem by Keaton St. James </a></li><li><a href="https://www.vagaro.com/pegasustattoostudios" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus on Insta</a></li><li><a href="https://www.vagaro.com/pegasustattoostudios" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus Tattoo </a></li><li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/satchel-james-victory-dallas-tx/1308829" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Satchel Victory Psychology Today</a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108037/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sandlot </a> </li></ul><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3576</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>dallas,health,journey,pegasus,pilgrimage,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,tattoo,wellness</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>BONUS - Easter Vigil</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/bonus-easter-vigil--65623444</link><description><![CDATA[On this bonus episode we talk about vigil and the things that call to the depths of our hearts. What can’t you turn away from? What is currently calling you to deep attention and care? We chat about swans, the weird wildness of the Easter Vigil, following our joy and our heartbreak, and everything in between. May you turn your loving gaze to the places and spaces that invite you into vigil. And may your loving gaze be the spark that ignites the flame of your actions. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/radicalsacred/p/radical-sacred-at-wild-goose?r=4lnjmd&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred will be at  Wild Goose Fest </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/tickets/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Get tickets for the Wild Goose</a>, use code A-RS for a $50 discount</li><li><a href="https://www.poetseers.org/contemporary-poets/mary-oliver/mary-oliver-poems/dogfish/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dogfish by Mary Oliver </a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcdiscipleship.org/book-of-worship/easter-vigil-or-the-first-service-of-easter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UMC tradition of Easter Vigil </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Wild Goose Festival<br />04:01 Easter Vigil: A Time of Reflection<br />08:09 The Importance of Sitting Vigil<br />11:55 Experiencing Grief and Loss<br />15:58 The Journey of Vigil and Resurrection<br />19:57 Nature as a Source of Vigil<br />24:08 The Complexity of Modern Church Services<br />27:50 Finding Joy in Vigil<br />31:55 The Call to Attention and Action<br />36:05 Conclusion: Embracing the Fullness of Life<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65623444</guid><pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2025 12:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65623444/easter_vigil.mp3" length="34121930" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this bonus episode we talk about vigil and the things that call to the depths of our hearts. What can’t you turn away from? What is currently calling you to deep attention and care? We chat about swans, the weird wildness of the Easter Vigil,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this bonus episode we talk about vigil and the things that call to the depths of our hearts. What can’t you turn away from? What is currently calling you to deep attention and care? We chat about swans, the weird wildness of the Easter Vigil, following our joy and our heartbreak, and everything in between. May you turn your loving gaze to the places and spaces that invite you into vigil. And may your loving gaze be the spark that ignites the flame of your actions. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this week’s episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://open.substack.com/pub/radicalsacred/p/radical-sacred-at-wild-goose?r=4lnjmd&amp;utm_campaign=post&amp;utm_medium=web" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred will be at  Wild Goose Fest </a></li><li><a href="https://wildgoosefestival.org/tickets/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Get tickets for the Wild Goose</a>, use code A-RS for a $50 discount</li><li><a href="https://www.poetseers.org/contemporary-poets/mary-oliver/mary-oliver-poems/dogfish/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dogfish by Mary Oliver </a></li><li><a href="https://www.umcdiscipleship.org/book-of-worship/easter-vigil-or-the-first-service-of-easter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UMC tradition of Easter Vigil </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Wild Goose Festival<br />04:01 Easter Vigil: A Time of Reflection<br />08:09 The Importance of Sitting Vigil<br />11:55 Experiencing Grief and Loss<br />15:58 The Journey of Vigil and Resurrection<br />19:57 Nature as a Source of Vigil<br />24:08 The Complexity of Modern Church Services<br />27:50 Finding Joy in Vigil<br />31:55 The Call to Attention and Action<br />36:05 Conclusion: Embracing the Fullness of Life<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2133</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>attention,church,community,easter,festival,goose,grief,joy,modern,nature,sitting,spirituality,vigil,wild,wildgoose</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Church of the Wild Field Guide Conversation with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/church-of-the-wild-field-guide-conversation-with-victoria-loorz-and-valerie-luna-serrels--65588685</link><description><![CDATA[We chat with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels about their fabulous new offering: Field Guide to the Church of the Wild. Victoria and Valerie are sisters who create uniquely wild offerings through Seminary of the Wild Earth, eco spiritual direction training and more. In this honest and deeply rooted conversation we learn how Victoria and Valerie are creating a mycelial hub for the emerging wild spirituality movement. When we listen to the wild call of our hearts what might we discover? How can being in relationship with the more than human earth transform how we see all things? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506496351/Field-Guide-to-Church-of-the-Wild" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Field Guide to the Church of the Wild </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/sowe-2025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seminary of the Wild Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sherikling.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sheri Kling</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/the-holy-wild" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Holy Wild Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://www.coffeecupspirituality.org/susan-alker-bio/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coffee Cup Spirituality- Susan Alker</a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Listening to the Land: A Spiritual Practice<br />10:07 Reimagining Roles and Language in Spiritual Leadership<br />20:00 The Intersection of Process Theology and Wild Church<br />29:51 Rituals as a Means of Connection and Healing<br />39:47 Witnessing Urban Nature: Finding the Wild in Concrete<br />44:05 Technology and Nature: A New Paradigm<br />49:50 Embracing Grief and Joy in Community<br />54:44 Reciprocity: The Essence of Relationships<br />59:56 Finding Sacredness in Place<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65588685</guid><pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65588685/field_guide.mp3" length="59155177" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We chat with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels about their fabulous new offering: Field Guide to the Church of the Wild. Victoria and Valerie are sisters who create uniquely wild offerings through Seminary of the Wild Earth, eco spiritual...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We chat with Victoria Loorz and Valerie Luna Serrels about their fabulous new offering: Field Guide to the Church of the Wild. Victoria and Valerie are sisters who create uniquely wild offerings through Seminary of the Wild Earth, eco spiritual direction training and more. In this honest and deeply rooted conversation we learn how Victoria and Valerie are creating a mycelial hub for the emerging wild spirituality movement. When we listen to the wild call of our hearts what might we discover? How can being in relationship with the more than human earth transform how we see all things? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9781506496351/Field-Guide-to-Church-of-the-Wild" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Field Guide to the Church of the Wild </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/sowe-2025" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seminary of the Wild Earth </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sherikling.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sheri Kling</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/the-holy-wild" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Holy Wild Podcast </a></li><li><a href="https://www.coffeecupspirituality.org/susan-alker-bio/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coffee Cup Spirituality- Susan Alker</a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Listening to the Land: A Spiritual Practice<br />10:07 Reimagining Roles and Language in Spiritual Leadership<br />20:00 The Intersection of Process Theology and Wild Church<br />29:51 Rituals as a Means of Connection and Healing<br />39:47 Witnessing Urban Nature: Finding the Wild in Concrete<br />44:05 Technology and Nature: A New Paradigm<br />49:50 Embracing Grief and Joy in Community<br />54:44 Reciprocity: The Essence of Relationships<br />59:56 Finding Sacredness in Place<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3698</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>church,grief,leadership,nature,process,processtheology,reciprocity,rituals,spirituality,technology,theology,urban,wild,wildchurch</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Hunter Mobley on the Enneagram and Contemplation: The Journey Back to Who You Are</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/hunter-mobley-on-the-enneagram-and-contemplation-the-journey-back-to-who-you-are--65448939</link><description><![CDATA[This week we are joined by <a href="https://www.huntermobley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hunter Mobley</a>, Enneagram teacher, speaker, and author of the fabulous new book Letting Go, Finding You. We dive deep with Hunter into contemplation and the Enneagram. If “contemplation is a long loving look”, how might Enneagram wisdom and contemplating flow together? Hunter invites us into a gentler, more hope filled way of viewing the Enneagram and ourselves. <br /><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889831655/Letting-Go-Finding-You" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889831655/Letting-Go-Finding-You" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Letting Go, Finding You by: Hunter Mobley </a></li><li><a href="https://www.huntermobley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hunter’s Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/forty-days-on-being-a-two" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">40 Days of Being a 2 by: Hunter Mobley </a></li><li><a href="https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Life in the Trinity Ministry </a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/poetry/how-to-be-alone/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Be Alone by Padraig O’Tuama </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />02:20 Introduction to the Enneagram<br />03:48 Pilgrimage and the Enneagram<br />07:22 Contemplation and Spirituality<br />12:05 Personal Journey and Integration<br />20:47 The Journey of Contemplation<br />23:19 Contemplation and the Heart Center<br />27:53 Understanding the Enneagram and Contemplation<br />33:59 Empathy and the Enneagram<br />37:17 The Interconnection of Wisdom Traditions<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65448939</guid><pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65448939/hunter_mobley.mp3" length="42331068" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we are joined by https://www.huntermobley.com/, Enneagram teacher, speaker, and author of the fabulous new book Letting Go, Finding You. We dive deep with Hunter into contemplation and the Enneagram. If “contemplation is a long loving look”,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we are joined by <a href="https://www.huntermobley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hunter Mobley</a>, Enneagram teacher, speaker, and author of the fabulous new book Letting Go, Finding You. We dive deep with Hunter into contemplation and the Enneagram. If “contemplation is a long loving look”, how might Enneagram wisdom and contemplating flow together? Hunter invites us into a gentler, more hope filled way of viewing the Enneagram and ourselves. <br /><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889831655/Letting-Go-Finding-You" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889831655/Letting-Go-Finding-You" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Letting Go, Finding You by: Hunter Mobley </a></li><li><a href="https://www.huntermobley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hunter’s Website </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ivpress.com/forty-days-on-being-a-two" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">40 Days of Being a 2 by: Hunter Mobley </a></li><li><a href="https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Life in the Trinity Ministry </a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/poetry/how-to-be-alone/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Be Alone by Padraig O’Tuama </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />02:20 Introduction to the Enneagram<br />03:48 Pilgrimage and the Enneagram<br />07:22 Contemplation and Spirituality<br />12:05 Personal Journey and Integration<br />20:47 The Journey of Contemplation<br />23:19 Contemplation and the Heart Center<br />27:53 Understanding the Enneagram and Contemplation<br />33:59 Empathy and the Enneagram<br />37:17 The Interconnection of Wisdom Traditions<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2646</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>contemplation,empathy,enneagram,growth,passions,personal,pilgrimage,self,self-discovery,spirituality,true,virtues</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>John Philip Newell on St. Brigid and Finding the Address of our Hearts</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/john-philip-newell-on-st-brigid-and-finding-the-address-of-our-hearts--65297360</link><description><![CDATA[We are honored and delighted to have this gorgeous conversation with the one and only John Phillip Newell. John Phillip chats with us about St. Brigid, having rituals in these unsettling times, connection to the earth, and everything in between. As we stand in the thresholds of life, how might we draw upon the courage and wisdom of St. Brigid? John Phillip invites us to delight in where we are and to find the addresses of our own hearts, wherever they may dwell.<br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/sacred-earth-sacred-soul" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sacred Earth, Sacred Soul</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ecovillagefindhorn.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EcoVillage</a>, Findhorn Scotland</li><li><a href="https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/iona-abbey-and-nunnery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Iona Abbey</a></li><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/thegreatsearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Great Search</a></li><li><a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matthew Fox</a></li><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/john-philip-newell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earth &amp; Soul</a></li></ul>Chapters<br />00:00 Awakening to the Divine Within<br />02:25 Journey to Fintorn: A Sacred Community<br />06:32 The Essence of Pilgrimage<br />17:20 Attention as Prayer: A Mindful Approach<br />21:48 St. Bridget: Myth and Midwifery<br />28:04 Imagination and Prophetic Wisdom<br />32:53 Imagining a New Future<br />33:57 Bridging Wisdom Traditions<br />34:55 Responding to Authority and Generosity<br />39:45 The Spirit of Our Time<br />43:57 Understanding Brokenness vs. Woundedness<br />51:00 The Role of Ritual in Transformation<br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65297360</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65297360/john_philip_newell.mp3" length="57673518" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are honored and delighted to have this gorgeous conversation with the one and only John Phillip Newell. John Phillip chats with us about St. Brigid, having rituals in these unsettling times, connection to the earth, and everything in between. As we...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are honored and delighted to have this gorgeous conversation with the one and only John Phillip Newell. John Phillip chats with us about St. Brigid, having rituals in these unsettling times, connection to the earth, and everything in between. As we stand in the thresholds of life, how might we draw upon the courage and wisdom of St. Brigid? John Phillip invites us to delight in where we are and to find the addresses of our own hearts, wherever they may dwell.<br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/sacred-earth-sacred-soul" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sacred Earth, Sacred Soul</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ecovillagefindhorn.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EcoVillage</a>, Findhorn Scotland</li><li><a href="https://www.historicenvironment.scot/visit-a-place/places/iona-abbey-and-nunnery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Iona Abbey</a></li><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/thegreatsearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Great Search</a></li><li><a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matthew Fox</a></li><li><a href="https://www.earthandsoul.org/john-philip-newell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Earth &amp; Soul</a></li></ul>Chapters<br />00:00 Awakening to the Divine Within<br />02:25 Journey to Fintorn: A Sacred Community<br />06:32 The Essence of Pilgrimage<br />17:20 Attention as Prayer: A Mindful Approach<br />21:48 St. Bridget: Myth and Midwifery<br />28:04 Imagination and Prophetic Wisdom<br />32:53 Imagining a New Future<br />33:57 Bridging Wisdom Traditions<br />34:55 Responding to Authority and Generosity<br />39:45 The Spirit of Our Time<br />43:57 Understanding Brokenness vs. Woundedness<br />51:00 The Role of Ritual in Transformation<br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3605</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>brigid,celtic,divine,earth,feminine,findhorn,imagination,johnphilipnewell,journey,pilgrimage,rituals,sacred,soul,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Journey to Building an Inclusive Future with Mary Jo Schnell</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/journey-to-building-an-inclusive-future-with-mary-jo-schnell--65133574</link><description><![CDATA[Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):             <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.outcenter.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> OutCenter</a></li><li><a href="https://timothysnyder.org/on-tyranny/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Tyranny</a> by Timothy Snyder</li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/how-to-stand-up-to-a-dictator-maria-ressa?variant=41038093352994" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Stand Up to a Dictator</a> - Maria Ressa</li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=my+gender+is+the+undoing+of+gender+by+andrea+gibson&amp;rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS935US935&amp;oq=my+g&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MgoIARAuGLEDGIAEMgYIAhBFGDkyBwgDEAAYgAQyDQgEEAAYgwEYsQMYgAQyBggFEEUYPDIGCAYQRRg8MgYIBxBFGDzSAQgyNjU3ajBqN6gCALACAA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&amp;vld=cid:4a04820a,vid:s8NvkY15yGs,st:0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">My Gender is the Undoing of Gender</a> by Andrea Gibson</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/11642827-good-grief-let-your-heart-break-so-your-spirit-doesn-t" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Good Grief </a>by Andrea Gibson</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />02:41 The Role of the Out Center<br />05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience<br />10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth<br />16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy<br />21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges<br />26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey<br />36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement<br />38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action<br />43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection<br />48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy<br />58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65133574</guid><pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 12:48:31 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65133574/mary_jo.mp3" length="69358810" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Humbled by this lovely conversation with the Executive Director of OutCenter, Mary Jo Schnell. Mary Jo talks to us about leading with empathy and listening deeply to all people, even those we fundamentally disagree with. We can’t connect with others in meaningful ways if we don’t “stay at the table.” Mary Jo walks us through a vision of building an inclusive future rooted in community, equality for all, and intersectionality. May we each be the vision bearers and light bringers for such a beautiful future. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):             <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.outcenter.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> OutCenter</a></li><li><a href="https://timothysnyder.org/on-tyranny/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Tyranny</a> by Timothy Snyder</li><li><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/how-to-stand-up-to-a-dictator-maria-ressa?variant=41038093352994" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Stand Up to a Dictator</a> - Maria Ressa</li><li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=my+gender+is+the+undoing+of+gender+by+andrea+gibson&amp;rlz=1C1CHZN_enUS935US935&amp;oq=my+g&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBggAEEUYOzIGCAAQRRg7MgoIARAuGLEDGIAEMgYIAhBFGDkyBwgDEAAYgAQyDQgEEAAYgwEYsQMYgAQyBggFEEUYPDIGCAYQRRg8MgYIBxBFGDzSAQgyNjU3ajBqN6gCALACAA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&amp;vld=cid:4a04820a,vid:s8NvkY15yGs,st:0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">My Gender is the Undoing of Gender</a> by Andrea Gibson</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/11642827-good-grief-let-your-heart-break-so-your-spirit-doesn-t" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Good Grief </a>by Andrea Gibson</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />02:41 The Role of the Out Center<br />05:12 Mary Jo's Background and Nonprofit Experience<br />10:25 Building Community and Support for LGBTQ Youth<br />16:15 The Importance of Education and Advocacy<br />21:24 Navigating Systemic Challenges<br />26:17 Guides and Influences on the Journey<br />36:30 The Unmasking of the Movement<br />38:29 Community Resilience and Local Action<br />43:42 Empathy as a Tool for Connection<br />48:53 Navigating Tyranny and Advocacy<br />58:54 The Importance of Staying at the Table<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4335</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,building,challenges,community,empathy,empowerment,gender,health,identity,lgbtq,mental,poetry,self-discovery,support,systemic,youth</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. Jeremy Steele and the Pilgrimage of a Skeptic</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-jeremy-steele-and-the-pilgrimage-of-a-skeptic--64758010</link><description><![CDATA[Rev. Jeremy Steele takes us on the journey of a skeptic building an open hearted online community rooted in deep questions and care. Jeremy’s new book “How not to suck as a Christian” is an honest reflection of his own faith pilgrimage. Through his Skeptic Pastor account on Tik-Tok Jeremy has found that beneath the most frequently asked questions he gets online are people looking for connection and for authenticity, no matter their background. What big questions do you have that you’ve been made to feel aren’t welcome in certain faith spaces? Rev. Jeremy not only has room for the hard questions, but welcomes them. What might shift for us if we viewed our questions as important guides for our spiritual journey and not something to fear or avoid? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://jeremy-steele.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Jeremy Steele </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Suck-as-Christian/dp/1964252334?tag=googhydr-20&amp;source=dsa&amp;hvcampaign=books&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAt4C-BhBcEiwA8Kp0CVQZjJut3pSmKfWQ0Y_l3nA13lI5Jsmcq6XkFs6AMFg_RjOTNQ4zuhoCHlAQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Not to Suck as a Christian book </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/unbelief/id1775055979" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Unbelief podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thetrevorproject.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Trevor Project </a></li><li><a href="https://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan McClellan</a></li><li><a href="https://apoemaday.tumblr.com/post/643847170896887808/i-dont-want-to-live-a-small-life" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">I Don’t Want to Live a Small Life by: Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Mary Oliver's Poem<br />01:15 Meet Jeremy Steele: A Journey of Faith and Skepticism<br />03:30 Exploring the Book: How to Not Suck as a Christian<br />06:08 The Role of Technology in Modern Ministry<br />08:22 Connecting with Diverse Spiritual Communities<br />12:35 Mysticism and Spirituality Beyond Traditional Beliefs<br />18:20 Understanding God: A Linguistic Perspective<br />20:45 Embracing Mystery in Times of Crisis<br />23:45 The Power of Relationships in Spirituality<br />26:02 Wrestling with Doubt and Spiritual Growth<br />26:54 The Role of Skepticism in Faith<br />29:01 Guides and Influences on Spiritual Journeys<br />32:18 Understanding Spirit Guides<br />33:49 Navigating Foreign Lands in Spirituality<br />42:51 The Power of Narrative in Spiritual Experience<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64758010</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64758010/jeremy_steele.mp3" length="47098728" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jeremy Steele takes us on the journey of a skeptic building an open hearted online community rooted in deep questions and care. Jeremy’s new book “How not to suck as a Christian” is an honest reflection of his own faith pilgrimage. Through his...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Rev. Jeremy Steele takes us on the journey of a skeptic building an open hearted online community rooted in deep questions and care. Jeremy’s new book “How not to suck as a Christian” is an honest reflection of his own faith pilgrimage. Through his Skeptic Pastor account on Tik-Tok Jeremy has found that beneath the most frequently asked questions he gets online are people looking for connection and for authenticity, no matter their background. What big questions do you have that you’ve been made to feel aren’t welcome in certain faith spaces? Rev. Jeremy not only has room for the hard questions, but welcomes them. What might shift for us if we viewed our questions as important guides for our spiritual journey and not something to fear or avoid? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://jeremy-steele.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Jeremy Steele </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Not-Suck-as-Christian/dp/1964252334?tag=googhydr-20&amp;source=dsa&amp;hvcampaign=books&amp;gclid=CjwKCAiAt4C-BhBcEiwA8Kp0CVQZjJut3pSmKfWQ0Y_l3nA13lI5Jsmcq6XkFs6AMFg_RjOTNQ4zuhoCHlAQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How Not to Suck as a Christian book </a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/unbelief/id1775055979" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Unbelief podcast</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thetrevorproject.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Trevor Project </a></li><li><a href="https://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/about/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan McClellan</a></li><li><a href="https://apoemaday.tumblr.com/post/643847170896887808/i-dont-want-to-live-a-small-life" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">I Don’t Want to Live a Small Life by: Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Mary Oliver's Poem<br />01:15 Meet Jeremy Steele: A Journey of Faith and Skepticism<br />03:30 Exploring the Book: How to Not Suck as a Christian<br />06:08 The Role of Technology in Modern Ministry<br />08:22 Connecting with Diverse Spiritual Communities<br />12:35 Mysticism and Spirituality Beyond Traditional Beliefs<br />18:20 Understanding God: A Linguistic Perspective<br />20:45 Embracing Mystery in Times of Crisis<br />23:45 The Power of Relationships in Spirituality<br />26:02 Wrestling with Doubt and Spiritual Growth<br />26:54 The Role of Skepticism in Faith<br />29:01 Guides and Influences on Spiritual Journeys<br />32:18 Understanding Spirit Guides<br />33:49 Navigating Foreign Lands in Spirituality<br />42:51 The Power of Narrative in Spiritual Experience<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2944</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,connection,divine,lgbtq,ministry,mysticism,pilgrimage,relationships,skepticism,spirituality,technology</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Melissa Fritchle’s Journey into Conscious Sex</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/melissa-fritchle-s-journey-into-conscious-sex--64722984</link><description><![CDATA[“Yearning is good….it’s a gift.” -Melissa Fritchle <br /><br />Melissa Fritchle is a psychotherapist, eco spirituality guide, author of the Conscious Sexual Self Workbook, a meditation and mindfulness teacher, and that’s just scratching the surface! In this honest conversation we talk about following our own yearning, conscious sex as a way of living more open heartedly, and all the ways our lives begin to open up when we’re honest about who we are and what we want. How can having more conscious sex shape not only our more intimate moments but our spirituality and our interconnectedness with all the things that make us feel most alive? Diving into our desires is necessary, albeit sometimes intimidating, work. Our aliveness and our awakeness matter so deeply, let’s journey into more consciousness together!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://mf-therapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa Fritchle LMFT</a></li><li><a href="https://embody-connect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Embody - Connect with Melissa </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/post/melissa-fritchle-seminary-of-the-wild-earth-guide?utm_campaign=87c691fa-770a-494e-bc31-ee8846b3015c&amp;utm_source=so&amp;utm_medium=mail&amp;cid=3d8bf109-f514-4642-91d7-7c8257f4e939" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality </a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Soul Entwined with Earth Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-conscious-sexual-self-workbook-melissa-jebian-fritchle/1120712791" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook </a></li><li><a href="https://www.5rhythms.com/gabrielle-roths-5rhythms/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">5 Rhythms Dance </a><a href="https://www.ramdass.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ram Daas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.splitthisrock.org/poetry-database/poem/spell-for-reclaiming-the-moment" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spell for Reclaiming the Moment by adrienne maree brown</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Reclaiming the Moment: Presence and Connection<br />03:04 Exploring Conscious Sexuality and Body Awareness<br />05:39 The Journey of Yearning: Understanding Our Desires<br />08:27 Mindfulness and Sensation: Tuning into Pleasure<br />10:52 Navigating Yearnings: Embracing Our Needs<br />13:44 Dancing Through Hard Times: The Importance of Joy<br />16:35 Nature's Teachings: Eco-Spirituality and Belonging<br />28:28 Reimagining Wellness and Spirituality<br />30:59 Nature, Diversity, and Queerness<br />33:36 Embodying Queerness in Community<br />36:56 Guides on the Spiritual Journey<br />39:39 The Role of Presence in Relationships<br />45:07 Navigating Sexuality and Aging<br />49:47 Curiosity and the Pilgrimage of Life]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64722984</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 10:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64722984/melissa_fritchle.mp3" length="52146840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“Yearning is good….it’s a gift.” -Melissa Fritchle 

Melissa Fritchle is a psychotherapist, eco spirituality guide, author of the Conscious Sexual Self Workbook, a meditation and mindfulness teacher, and that’s just scratching the surface! In this...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“Yearning is good….it’s a gift.” -Melissa Fritchle <br /><br />Melissa Fritchle is a psychotherapist, eco spirituality guide, author of the Conscious Sexual Self Workbook, a meditation and mindfulness teacher, and that’s just scratching the surface! In this honest conversation we talk about following our own yearning, conscious sex as a way of living more open heartedly, and all the ways our lives begin to open up when we’re honest about who we are and what we want. How can having more conscious sex shape not only our more intimate moments but our spirituality and our interconnectedness with all the things that make us feel most alive? Diving into our desires is necessary, albeit sometimes intimidating, work. Our aliveness and our awakeness matter so deeply, let’s journey into more consciousness together!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://mf-therapy.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa Fritchle LMFT</a></li><li><a href="https://embody-connect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Embody - Connect with Melissa </a></li><li><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/post/melissa-fritchle-seminary-of-the-wild-earth-guide?utm_campaign=87c691fa-770a-494e-bc31-ee8846b3015c&amp;utm_source=so&amp;utm_medium=mail&amp;cid=3d8bf109-f514-4642-91d7-7c8257f4e939" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality </a></li><li><a href="https://soulentwinedwithearth.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Soul Entwined with Earth Substack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-conscious-sexual-self-workbook-melissa-jebian-fritchle/1120712791" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Conscious Sexual Self Workbook </a></li><li><a href="https://www.5rhythms.com/gabrielle-roths-5rhythms/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">5 Rhythms Dance </a><a href="https://www.ramdass.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ram Daas</a></li><li><a href="https://www.splitthisrock.org/poetry-database/poem/spell-for-reclaiming-the-moment" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spell for Reclaiming the Moment by adrienne maree brown</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Reclaiming the Moment: Presence and Connection<br />03:04 Exploring Conscious Sexuality and Body Awareness<br />05:39 The Journey of Yearning: Understanding Our Desires<br />08:27 Mindfulness and Sensation: Tuning into Pleasure<br />10:52 Navigating Yearnings: Embracing Our Needs<br />13:44 Dancing Through Hard Times: The Importance of Joy<br />16:35 Nature's Teachings: Eco-Spirituality and Belonging<br />28:28 Reimagining Wellness and Spirituality<br />30:59 Nature, Diversity, and Queerness<br />33:36 Embodying Queerness in Community<br />36:56 Guides on the Spiritual Journey<br />39:39 The Role of Presence in Relationships<br />45:07 Navigating Sexuality and Aging<br />49:47 Curiosity and the Pilgrimage of Life]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3260</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>connection,conscious,diversity,eco-spirituality,journey,joy,mindfulness,pilgrimage,presence,relationships,self-exploration,sexuality,yearning</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Beyond Data into Depth with Andrew Wermelskirchen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/beyond-data-into-depth-with-andrew-wermelskirchen--64617517</link><description><![CDATA[We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen when we connect with others via curiosity through open ended, open hearted questions? We chat with one of our favorite somebody’s about creative offerings, open hearted living, and leading with vulnerability. Do you have something on your heart and mind that won’t let you go? Then by all means, dive into it!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://observationsfromanobody.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Observations of a Nobody </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/makebelieve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Makebelieve by Padraig O’Tuoma </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Genesis of Creation and Time<br />02:53 Friendship and Shared Experiences<br />05:53 Navigating Personal Identity and Professional Paths<br />08:22 Introducing the Newsletter: Observations from a Nobody<br />11:17 The Power of Self-Perception and Language<br />14:04 Curiosity as a Driving Force in Education<br />16:56 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Acceptance<br />19:49 Engaging with Questions and Community<br />22:47 The Importance of Curiosity in Learning<br />29:38 The Good Samaritan: A Lesson for Middle Schoolers<br />33:32 Personal Reflections on Assumptions<br />36:37 The Importance of Formational Questions<br />38:12 Depth vs. Data in Communication<br />43:12 Engaging Conversations and Community<br />46:48 Facing Fears in Creative Expression<br />51:33 Guides and Community Support<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64617517</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64617517/werm.mp3" length="52878677" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We love an interview with someone we both love dearly who also happens to run a gorgeous newsletter! Today we interview Andrew Wermelskirchen about his substack offering for educators and religious leaders: Observations of a Nobody. What can happen when we connect with others via curiosity through open ended, open hearted questions? We chat with one of our favorite somebody’s about creative offerings, open hearted living, and leading with vulnerability. Do you have something on your heart and mind that won’t let you go? Then by all means, dive into it!<br /><br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://observationsfromanobody.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Observations of a Nobody </a></li><li><a href="https://poets.org/poem/makebelieve" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Makebelieve by Padraig O’Tuoma </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Genesis of Creation and Time<br />02:53 Friendship and Shared Experiences<br />05:53 Navigating Personal Identity and Professional Paths<br />08:22 Introducing the Newsletter: Observations from a Nobody<br />11:17 The Power of Self-Perception and Language<br />14:04 Curiosity as a Driving Force in Education<br />16:56 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Acceptance<br />19:49 Engaging with Questions and Community<br />22:47 The Importance of Curiosity in Learning<br />29:38 The Good Samaritan: A Lesson for Middle Schoolers<br />33:32 Personal Reflections on Assumptions<br />36:37 The Importance of Formational Questions<br />38:12 Depth vs. Data in Communication<br />43:12 Engaging Conversations and Community<br />46:48 Facing Fears in Creative Expression<br />51:33 Guides and Community Support<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3305</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,conversations,creativity,curiosity,education,growth,journey,personal,questions,self-perception,spirituality,vulnerability,writing</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Feeling Your Way Through Grief with Missy Buchanan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/feeling-your-way-through-grief-with-missy-buchanan--64552399</link><description><![CDATA[This week we journey with author and speaker Missy Buchanan into an honest exploration into grief. What happens when our life is upended by grief? Missy chats with us about the sudden loss of her husband Barry, her realization that a lot of materials around grief are lacking in authenticity and vulnerability, and her determination to “feel her way through grief” in a way that felt true to her. When we grieve honestly and invite others to do the same, lives are changed and doors are opened. Though none of us would pick grief as our teacher, what do we learn when we honestly encounter it and allow it to guide us? <br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://missybuchanan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://missybuchanan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Missy Buchanan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Your-Way-Through-Grief/dp/0835820653/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BXVEGZBX6KQR&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pIDKbGSCMv5zOTtFhkxOCVaNNXdEo6VK5hvLYqN_SLJSI_KZHl5lovr2mgI83UOLwcEeEjJEuqaCkubNtJ03lE60g8T_ai2y7o5jA_wa4DX5z9cNUP_xcbeWx20Bug2aMmCfGQhS-173yMuDK7X4ubKLeink0PyRS5u2PENt5m7liaoE9K_OKV4QCkkup8nHnvpxT3xZiRKSWxsrbQYBOXyfwKWVM2EAqum0i-W3DZo.Be4g_qXlt1jB1IO45UFs8g9FuE0WJcQeNF4E1mqOftw&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=missy+buchanan+books&amp;qid=1718378374&amp;sprefix=missy+buchanan+books%2Caps%2C153&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Feeling Your Way Through Grief</a></li><li><a href="https://beta.goodmorningamerica.com/living/video/missy-buchanan-talks-feeling-grief-112468617" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Missy’s interview on Good Morning America </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Understanding Grief: A Matter of the Heart<br />02:49 Missy Buchanan's Journey Through Grief<br />04:23 The Impact of Clichés in Grief<br />10:12 Cultural Perspectives on Grief<br />12:35 Rituals and Remembrance in Grief<br />15:22 The Sacredness of Tears and Vulnerability<br />18:54 The Pilgrimage of Grief: Finding Guidance<br />22:01 Understanding the Ongoing Journey of Grief<br />25:24 Building Community in Times of Grief<br />28:30 The Importance of Presence in Grief<br />34:02 Feeling Through Grief: Embracing Emotions<br />37:17 Rituals and Remembrance: Honoring Loved Ones<br />40:57 Finding Joy Amidst Grief<br />42:56 Resources for Healing and Connection<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64552399</guid><pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64552399/missy_buchanan.mp3" length="45199105" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we journey with author and speaker Missy Buchanan into an honest exploration into grief. What happens when our life is upended by grief? Missy chats with us about the sudden loss of her husband Barry, her realization that a lot of materials...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we journey with author and speaker Missy Buchanan into an honest exploration into grief. What happens when our life is upended by grief? Missy chats with us about the sudden loss of her husband Barry, her realization that a lot of materials around grief are lacking in authenticity and vulnerability, and her determination to “feel her way through grief” in a way that felt true to her. When we grieve honestly and invite others to do the same, lives are changed and doors are opened. Though none of us would pick grief as our teacher, what do we learn when we honestly encounter it and allow it to guide us? <br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://missybuchanan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://missybuchanan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Missy Buchanan</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Feeling-Your-Way-Through-Grief/dp/0835820653/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3BXVEGZBX6KQR&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pIDKbGSCMv5zOTtFhkxOCVaNNXdEo6VK5hvLYqN_SLJSI_KZHl5lovr2mgI83UOLwcEeEjJEuqaCkubNtJ03lE60g8T_ai2y7o5jA_wa4DX5z9cNUP_xcbeWx20Bug2aMmCfGQhS-173yMuDK7X4ubKLeink0PyRS5u2PENt5m7liaoE9K_OKV4QCkkup8nHnvpxT3xZiRKSWxsrbQYBOXyfwKWVM2EAqum0i-W3DZo.Be4g_qXlt1jB1IO45UFs8g9FuE0WJcQeNF4E1mqOftw&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=missy+buchanan+books&amp;qid=1718378374&amp;sprefix=missy+buchanan+books%2Caps%2C153&amp;sr=8-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Feeling Your Way Through Grief</a></li><li><a href="https://beta.goodmorningamerica.com/living/video/missy-buchanan-talks-feeling-grief-112468617" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Missy’s interview on Good Morning America </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Understanding Grief: A Matter of the Heart<br />02:49 Missy Buchanan's Journey Through Grief<br />04:23 The Impact of Clichés in Grief<br />10:12 Cultural Perspectives on Grief<br />12:35 Rituals and Remembrance in Grief<br />15:22 The Sacredness of Tears and Vulnerability<br />18:54 The Pilgrimage of Grief: Finding Guidance<br />22:01 Understanding the Ongoing Journey of Grief<br />25:24 Building Community in Times of Grief<br />28:30 The Importance of Presence in Grief<br />34:02 Feeling Through Grief: Embracing Emotions<br />37:17 Rituals and Remembrance: Honoring Loved Ones<br />40:57 Finding Joy Amidst Grief<br />42:56 Resources for Healing and Connection<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2825</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,coping,cultural,emotional,faith,grief,healing,journey,loss,mechanisms,perspectives,pilgrimage,support,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage for Nerds with Rev. Nathan Webb</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-for-nerds-with-rev-nathan-webb--64444257</link><description><![CDATA[At the heart of Rev. Nathan Webb’s creative, online community is storytelling, loving connection, and curiosity. We journey with Nathan as he talks to us about the beauty and complexities of pastoring and world building in digital spaces. We delve into pilgrimage through gaming and our minds are blown by the possibilities. What can happen when a church decides to be a community of misfits doing their best to build one another up? <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.checkpointchurch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Checkpoint Church</a><br /><ul><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2560140/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Attack on Titan</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Ping/Andrew-Brodsky/9781668055243" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication</a> by Andrew Brodsky</li><li>Game they used for pilgrimage: <a href="https://neva.game/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Neva</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hazbin-Hotel-Season-1/dp/B0CLM8LHS7" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hazbin Hotel</a> - series on Amazon Prime</li><li><a href="https://www.pixelandpulpit.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pixel and Pulpit</a> Nathan on Substack </li><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/nerdpastornate" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">NerdPastorNate</a> (linktree)</li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421357/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Full Metal Alchemist</a></li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5249462/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erased</a></li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3895150/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Your Lie in April</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://www.fellowtraveller.games/afterlove-ep" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Afterlove Ep</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://undertale.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Undertalen</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/420530/OneShot/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">One Shot</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Checkpoint Church<br />03:00 The Digital First Approach of Checkpoint Church<br />06:01 Nerdy Sermons and Community Engagement<br />08:43 The Intersection of Storytelling and Spirituality<br />11:19 Navigating Parenting and Media Consumption<br />14:11 Creating Safe Spaces in Digital Communities<br />16:40 The Journey of Pilgrimage in Digital Space<br />19:23 Experiencing Catharsis Through Gaming<br />22:29 Reflections on Vulnerability and Community<br />25:11 The Power of Shared Experiences in Digital Pilgrimages<br />27:49 The Impact of Digital Ministry<br />27:55 Engaging with New Audiences<br />31:28 The Question of Incarnation in Digital Spaces<br />38:02 Innovative Approaches to Pastoral Care<br />39:50 Learning from Failures in Digital Ministry<br />42:49 Exploring Future Possibilities in Digital Church<br />46:22 Curiosity and Adaptability in Spirituality<br />51:21 Favorite Anime and Gaming Recommendations<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64444257</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64444257/nathan_webb.mp3" length="54074883" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>At the heart of Rev. Nathan Webb’s creative, online community is storytelling, loving connection, and curiosity. We journey with Nathan as he talks to us about the beauty and complexities of pastoring and world building in digital spaces. We delve...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[At the heart of Rev. Nathan Webb’s creative, online community is storytelling, loving connection, and curiosity. We journey with Nathan as he talks to us about the beauty and complexities of pastoring and world building in digital spaces. We delve into pilgrimage through gaming and our minds are blown by the possibilities. What can happen when a church decides to be a community of misfits doing their best to build one another up? <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.checkpointchurch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Checkpoint Church</a><br /><ul><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2560140/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Attack on Titan</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Ping/Andrew-Brodsky/9781668055243" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ping: The Secrets of Successful Virtual Communication</a> by Andrew Brodsky</li><li>Game they used for pilgrimage: <a href="https://neva.game/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Neva</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hazbin-Hotel-Season-1/dp/B0CLM8LHS7" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hazbin Hotel</a> - series on Amazon Prime</li><li><a href="https://www.pixelandpulpit.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pixel and Pulpit</a> Nathan on Substack </li><li><a href="https://linktr.ee/nerdpastornate" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">NerdPastorNate</a> (linktree)</li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0421357/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Full Metal Alchemist</a></li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5249462/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erased</a></li><li>Anime: <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3895150/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Your Lie in April</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://www.fellowtraveller.games/afterlove-ep" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Afterlove Ep</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://undertale.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Undertalen</a></li><li>Game: <a href="https://store.steampowered.com/app/420530/OneShot/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">One Shot</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to Radical Sacred and Checkpoint Church<br />03:00 The Digital First Approach of Checkpoint Church<br />06:01 Nerdy Sermons and Community Engagement<br />08:43 The Intersection of Storytelling and Spirituality<br />11:19 Navigating Parenting and Media Consumption<br />14:11 Creating Safe Spaces in Digital Communities<br />16:40 The Journey of Pilgrimage in Digital Space<br />19:23 Experiencing Catharsis Through Gaming<br />22:29 Reflections on Vulnerability and Community<br />25:11 The Power of Shared Experiences in Digital Pilgrimages<br />27:49 The Impact of Digital Ministry<br />27:55 Engaging with New Audiences<br />31:28 The Question of Incarnation in Digital Spaces<br />38:02 Innovative Approaches to Pastoral Care<br />39:50 Learning from Failures in Digital Ministry<br />42:49 Exploring Future Possibilities in Digital Church<br />46:22 Curiosity and Adaptability in Spirituality<br />51:21 Favorite Anime and Gaming Recommendations<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3380</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>anime,checkpoint,church,community,culture,digital,gaming,ministry,nerd,pilgrimage,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,safe,spaces,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Walking Brigid's Way with Dr. Karen Ward</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/walking-brigid-s-way-with-dr-karen-ward--64334767</link><description><![CDATA[Dr. Karen Ward joins us today as we chat about Ireland’s Saint Brigid who is just as rooted in celtic folklore as she is steeped in Catholic tradition. Who was Brigid really? Karen walks us through the journey of a woman who was both the saint of poems, midwifery, Ale and blacksmithing and who was also a fire goddess. The mythology of Brigid is vast and invitational and in these troubled times we are all invited to delve into the story of a woman who became a symbol for new life springing forth in the darkness of the midwinter. As we journey through Brigid’s Path in this hopeful episode, may we each be imbibed with her spirit of resilience and transcendence and remember that we too have the eternal flame within us that can never be extinguished. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this episode (or meant to anyways) <br /><ul><li><a href="https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/we-have-brigid-s-day-let-s-sign-brigid-s-way" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sign the Petition</a> St. Brigid’s Pilgrimage</li><li>Book - <a href="https://moonmna.store/products/brigids-way-celtic-pilgrimage" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brigid’s Way: Celtic Pilgrimage</a> </li><li><a href="https://drkarenwardtherapist.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Karen Ward Therapist Website</a> &amp;<a href="http://drkarenwardtherapist" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.slianchroi.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sli An Chroi Shamanism</a></li><li><a href="https://brigidsway.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brigid’s Way Pilgrimage Opportunities</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to St. Brigid and Dr. Karen Ward<br />04:41 Syncretism: Bridging Paganism and Christianity<br />07:35 Personal Journey: Discovering St. Brigid<br />15:21 The Birth of Brigid's Way: A Pilgrimage Journey<br />20:48 Trusting the Inner Voice on the Pilgrimage<br />26:34 The Journey of Faith and Pilgrimage<br />29:20 Preparing for Pilgrimage: Physical and Spiritual Aspects<br />31:57 Brigid's Wisdom in Troubling Times<br />39:18 The Power of Community and Shared Faith<br />41:22 Stories of Brigid: Lessons in Generosity and Unity<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64334767</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64334767/walking_brigid_s_way_with_dr_karen_ward.mp3" length="47919209" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Dr. Karen Ward joins us today as we chat about Ireland’s Saint Brigid who is just as rooted in celtic folklore as she is steeped in Catholic tradition. Who was Brigid really? Karen walks us through the journey of a woman who was both the saint of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr. Karen Ward joins us today as we chat about Ireland’s Saint Brigid who is just as rooted in celtic folklore as she is steeped in Catholic tradition. Who was Brigid really? Karen walks us through the journey of a woman who was both the saint of poems, midwifery, Ale and blacksmithing and who was also a fire goddess. The mythology of Brigid is vast and invitational and in these troubled times we are all invited to delve into the story of a woman who became a symbol for new life springing forth in the darkness of the midwinter. As we journey through Brigid’s Path in this hopeful episode, may we each be imbibed with her spirit of resilience and transcendence and remember that we too have the eternal flame within us that can never be extinguished. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mention in this episode (or meant to anyways) <br /><ul><li><a href="https://my.uplift.ie/petitions/we-have-brigid-s-day-let-s-sign-brigid-s-way" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sign the Petition</a> St. Brigid’s Pilgrimage</li><li>Book - <a href="https://moonmna.store/products/brigids-way-celtic-pilgrimage" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brigid’s Way: Celtic Pilgrimage</a> </li><li><a href="https://drkarenwardtherapist.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Karen Ward Therapist Website</a> &amp;<a href="http://drkarenwardtherapist" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.slianchroi.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sli An Chroi Shamanism</a></li><li><a href="https://brigidsway.ie/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brigid’s Way Pilgrimage Opportunities</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction to St. Brigid and Dr. Karen Ward<br />04:41 Syncretism: Bridging Paganism and Christianity<br />07:35 Personal Journey: Discovering St. Brigid<br />15:21 The Birth of Brigid's Way: A Pilgrimage Journey<br />20:48 Trusting the Inner Voice on the Pilgrimage<br />26:34 The Journey of Faith and Pilgrimage<br />29:20 Preparing for Pilgrimage: Physical and Spiritual Aspects<br />31:57 Brigid's Wisdom in Troubling Times<br />39:18 The Power of Community and Shared Faith<br />41:22 Stories of Brigid: Lessons in Generosity and Unity<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2995</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>brigid,community,faith,goddess,healing,ireland,kildare,pilgrimage,spirituality,syncretism,women</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Where We’re From and What We’re Rooted In</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/where-we-re-from-and-what-we-re-rooted-in--64195158</link><description><![CDATA[We are in the darkness of the womb right now, in the midwinter. What are we going to birth forth? This week we talk about where we’re from and where we’re currently taking root in these uncertain times. In seasons of upheaval it helps to remember who our safe spaces are, what weird stuff the soft animal of our body loves, and how we can integrate all we’ve been with who we are and what is ours to do right now. If, like us, you find yourself wandering through the wilderness of the current moment, here are some questions we hope help tether you back to you.<br /><ul><li>Where am I from? (What places, spaces, and people made you, you. Celebrate them, grieve them, just be honest about your experiences.)</li><li>What beliefs have I emerged from that need to be set aside? (What no longer aligns with truth? What old ways of doing things do you need to shed?)</li><li>What is inviting you to more of you and more of grace, love and joy? (Is it nerding out about scripture or birds? Awesome, do it with all your heart and invite others into it too.We need people who are alive and in love.) </li></ul>Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li>The Ezra Klein Show - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-believe-him/id1548604447?i=1000688157475" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Don’t Believe Him</a></li><li>Charles Hartshorne - <a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/O/Omnipotence-and-other-Theological-Mistakes" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Omnipotence and other Theological Mistakes</a></li><li><a href="https://sarasmeaton.com/thresholds-by-john-odonohue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thresholds by: John O’Donohue</a></li><li>Shoutout to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwall,_Texas" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rockwall</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Grove,_Missouri" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fairgrove</a>. We love you, it’s complicated.</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Pilgrimage and the Power of Place<br />01:47 Distractions on the Journey<br />03:27 Reintroducing Radical Sacred<br />07:34 The Evolution of Spirituality<br />10:53 Reflections on Past Beliefs<br />14:46 The Nature of Change in Faith<br />23:26 The Transformative Power of Love<br />25:43 Empathy and Connection in Challenging Times<br />27:28 Finding Joy and Community Amidst Chaos<br />32:50 Anchoring Spirituality in Changing Times<br />39:01 Embracing Authenticity and Personal Growth<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64195158</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64195158/staying_rooted.mp3" length="44316375" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are in the darkness of the womb right now, in the midwinter. What are we going to birth forth? This week we talk about where we’re from and where we’re currently taking root in these uncertain times. In seasons of upheaval it helps to remember who...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are in the darkness of the womb right now, in the midwinter. What are we going to birth forth? This week we talk about where we’re from and where we’re currently taking root in these uncertain times. In seasons of upheaval it helps to remember who our safe spaces are, what weird stuff the soft animal of our body loves, and how we can integrate all we’ve been with who we are and what is ours to do right now. If, like us, you find yourself wandering through the wilderness of the current moment, here are some questions we hope help tether you back to you.<br /><ul><li>Where am I from? (What places, spaces, and people made you, you. Celebrate them, grieve them, just be honest about your experiences.)</li><li>What beliefs have I emerged from that need to be set aside? (What no longer aligns with truth? What old ways of doing things do you need to shed?)</li><li>What is inviting you to more of you and more of grace, love and joy? (Is it nerding out about scripture or birds? Awesome, do it with all your heart and invite others into it too.We need people who are alive and in love.) </li></ul>Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li>The Ezra Klein Show - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-believe-him/id1548604447?i=1000688157475" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Don’t Believe Him</a></li><li>Charles Hartshorne - <a href="https://sunypress.edu/Books/O/Omnipotence-and-other-Theological-Mistakes" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Omnipotence and other Theological Mistakes</a></li><li><a href="https://sarasmeaton.com/thresholds-by-john-odonohue/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thresholds by: John O’Donohue</a></li><li>Shoutout to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwall,_Texas" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rockwall</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Grove,_Missouri" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fairgrove</a>. We love you, it’s complicated.</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Pilgrimage and the Power of Place<br />01:47 Distractions on the Journey<br />03:27 Reintroducing Radical Sacred<br />07:34 The Evolution of Spirituality<br />10:53 Reflections on Past Beliefs<br />14:46 The Nature of Change in Faith<br />23:26 The Transformative Power of Love<br />25:43 Empathy and Connection in Challenging Times<br />27:28 Finding Joy and Community Amidst Chaos<br />32:50 Anchoring Spirituality in Changing Times<br />39:01 Embracing Authenticity and Personal Growth<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2770</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,distractions,evolution,faith,growth,joy,nature,personal,pilgrimage,radical,rooted,roots,sacred,spirituality,thresholds</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Allurement of Nature: A Spiritual Journey with Victoria Loorz</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-allurement-of-nature-a-spiritual-journey-with-victoria-loorz--63984438</link><description><![CDATA[“We have lost relational language for the natural world and lost part of our own souls along with it.” -  Victoria Loorz, author of Church of the Wild Wild Church Pastor, Eco Spiritual Director, author and founder of Center for Wild Spirituality <a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Victoria Loorz</a> wants us to reimagine our own wildness and our interconnectedness to the earth. Victoria’s invitation to reciprocity, relational language, and choosing to belong wherever you are is a breath of fresh mountain air in these tense times. In the face of looming empire Victoria honestly talks about what we’re facing and also imbibes us with the hope that can be found when we recognize the innate and inherent value in every living being. We are grateful for Victoria, her work around rewilding, and her reminder that the earth deeply loves us. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church of the Wild by Victoria Loorz<br /></a><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seminary of the Wild Earth<br /></a><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/eco-spiritual-direction" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eco Spiritual Direction <br /></a><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Braiding Sweet Grass by: Robin Wall Kimmerer<br /></a><a href="https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/matter-and-desire/?srsltid=AfmBOoo4vso7wPBO-EwGT4zjqM0U6_LPnEjn7IkIK_NFLxy20fyxBWVk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matter and Desire: An Erotic Ecology</a> by: Andreas Weber<br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Allurement of Nature and Spiritual Connection<br />04:30 Journey to the Center for Wild Spirituality<br />09:00 Exploring the Sacred in Nature<br />12:55 The Role of Conversation in Spirituality<br />17:40 Grief, Connection, and the Presence of the Holy<br />21:59 Finding Belonging in Unfamiliar Places<br />32:36 The Spiritual Connection with Nature<br />38:07 Language and Worldview: Nouns vs. Verbs<br />44:46 The Role of Religion in Shifting Worldviews<br />51:01 Reciprocity in Nature and Relationships<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63984438</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63984438/victoria_loorz.mp3" length="59823078" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“We have lost relational language for the natural world and lost part of our own souls along with it.” -  Victoria Loorz, author of Church of the Wild Wild Church Pastor, Eco Spiritual Director, author and founder of Center for Wild Spirituality...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“We have lost relational language for the natural world and lost part of our own souls along with it.” -  Victoria Loorz, author of Church of the Wild Wild Church Pastor, Eco Spiritual Director, author and founder of Center for Wild Spirituality <a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Victoria Loorz</a> wants us to reimagine our own wildness and our interconnectedness to the earth. Victoria’s invitation to reciprocity, relational language, and choosing to belong wherever you are is a breath of fresh mountain air in these tense times. In the face of looming empire Victoria honestly talks about what we’re facing and also imbibes us with the hope that can be found when we recognize the innate and inherent value in every living being. We are grateful for Victoria, her work around rewilding, and her reminder that the earth deeply loves us. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church of the Wild by Victoria Loorz<br /></a><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seminary of the Wild Earth<br /></a><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/eco-spiritual-direction" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eco Spiritual Direction <br /></a><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Braiding Sweet Grass by: Robin Wall Kimmerer<br /></a><a href="https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/matter-and-desire/?srsltid=AfmBOoo4vso7wPBO-EwGT4zjqM0U6_LPnEjn7IkIK_NFLxy20fyxBWVk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matter and Desire: An Erotic Ecology</a> by: Andreas Weber<br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Allurement of Nature and Spiritual Connection<br />04:30 Journey to the Center for Wild Spirituality<br />09:00 Exploring the Sacred in Nature<br />12:55 The Role of Conversation in Spirituality<br />17:40 Grief, Connection, and the Presence of the Holy<br />21:59 Finding Belonging in Unfamiliar Places<br />32:36 The Spiritual Connection with Nature<br />38:07 Language and Worldview: Nouns vs. Verbs<br />44:46 The Role of Religion in Shifting Worldviews<br />51:01 Reciprocity in Nature and Relationships<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3739</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,church,churchofthewild,community,connection,direction,nature,relationship,reverence,spiritual,spirituality,transformation,wild</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rooted in a Future for Good: Inauguration Episode with Neil Moseley</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rooted-in-a-future-for-good-inauguration-episode-with-neil-moseley--63769417</link><description><![CDATA[Neil Moseley, consultant, bird guide, and all around lovely human joins us for this Inauguration Day special. When we dig at the root of the word Inauguration we find an invitation to cast a future of our own imagining. If today feels particularly challenging to you, we want you to know that you are in good company.  This conversation invites us all to notice how we feel, admit the reality of the challenges we face, to spend time processing with our best dumb-dumbs, to check in on our neighbors, and to be attuned to our intuition. In this next Trump era we invite you to be rooted in community, allurement, and love. We get to cast the future, friends. Let’s collectively make it something beautiful for all people. <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/pleasure-activism.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pleasure Activism by: Adrienne Maree Brown <br /></a><a href="https://www.nwesd.org/the-current/equity/the-three-evils-of-society-address-martin-luther-king-jr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Three Evils of Society</a> by MLK Jr. <br /><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%201&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Exodus 1<br /></a><a href="https://adriennemareebrown.net/2014/10/09/spell-for-grief-or-letting-go/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spell for Grief or letting Go by: Adrienne Maree Brown </a><br />Where to Find Neil Moseley: He cannot be found. <br /><br />As always, reach out to us if you are looking for community to process!<br /><br />Chapters<br />00:00 A Spell for Grief: Embracing Loss and Healing<br />05:02 The Meaning of Inauguration: Etymology and Future<br />12:58 Exodus and Oppression: Lessons from History<br />21:13 Local Organizing: Building Community in Difficult Times<br />26:05 The Importance of Community Connections<br />30:41 Finding Joy in Simple Organizing<br />36:20 Nature and Spiritual Connection<br />41:09 Intuition and Truth in Activism<br />50:24 The Slow and Mysterious Work of Change<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63769417</guid><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jan 2025 21:57:33 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63769417/neil.mp3" length="57067056" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Neil Moseley, consultant, bird guide, and all around lovely human joins us for this Inauguration Day special. When we dig at the root of the word Inauguration we find an invitation to cast a future of our own imagining. If today feels particularly...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Neil Moseley, consultant, bird guide, and all around lovely human joins us for this Inauguration Day special. When we dig at the root of the word Inauguration we find an invitation to cast a future of our own imagining. If today feels particularly challenging to you, we want you to know that you are in good company.  This conversation invites us all to notice how we feel, admit the reality of the challenges we face, to spend time processing with our best dumb-dumbs, to check in on our neighbors, and to be attuned to our intuition. In this next Trump era we invite you to be rooted in community, allurement, and love. We get to cast the future, friends. Let’s collectively make it something beautiful for all people. <br />Cool stuff we mention this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><a href="https://www.akpress.org/pleasure-activism.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pleasure Activism by: Adrienne Maree Brown <br /></a><a href="https://www.nwesd.org/the-current/equity/the-three-evils-of-society-address-martin-luther-king-jr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Three Evils of Society</a> by MLK Jr. <br /><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus%201&amp;version=NIV" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Exodus 1<br /></a><a href="https://adriennemareebrown.net/2014/10/09/spell-for-grief-or-letting-go/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spell for Grief or letting Go by: Adrienne Maree Brown </a><br />Where to Find Neil Moseley: He cannot be found. <br /><br />As always, reach out to us if you are looking for community to process!<br /><br />Chapters<br />00:00 A Spell for Grief: Embracing Loss and Healing<br />05:02 The Meaning of Inauguration: Etymology and Future<br />12:58 Exodus and Oppression: Lessons from History<br />21:13 Local Organizing: Building Community in Difficult Times<br />26:05 The Importance of Community Connections<br />30:41 Finding Joy in Simple Organizing<br />36:20 Nature and Spiritual Connection<br />41:09 Intuition and Truth in Activism<br />50:24 The Slow and Mysterious Work of Change<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3567</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,community,emotional,grief,health,inauguration,intuition,jr.,king,local,luther,martin,organizing,pleasure,resistance</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Nathan Shultz on the Wisdom of Wild Places</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/nathan-shultz-on-the-wisdom-of-wild-places--63694665</link><description><![CDATA[Nathan Schultz, founder of Path Wise Ventures, joins us today to talk about the wisdom of wild places. Raised as a missionary kid outdoors, Nathan’s journey from coporate funraising to pilgrimage leader is one of following his own interior knowing. We dive into the importance of connecting with natural spaces, of following the call of our hearts, and of embracing mystery. Nathan’s imaginative view of the world reminds us that we’d all be better off if we remembered we were friends with the trees. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.path-wise-ventures.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Path Wise Ventures<br /></a><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality <br /></a><a href="https://tomhirons.com/poetry/sometimes-a-wild-god" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sometimes a Wild God - Tom Hirons</a><br /><a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matthew Fox </a><br /><a href="https://www.animas.org/about-us/our-founder/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bill Plotkin - Animist (Eco psychology)</a><br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68210.Gilead" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead - Marilynne Robinson</a><br /><a href="https://namostamand.medium.com/when-i-was-the-forest-spiritual-poetry-by-meister-eckhart-ceb5a9d3855b" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I was the Forest - Meister Eckhart <br /></a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Exploring John Muir's Legacy and Evolution<br />02:44 Nathan's Journey: From Missionary Kid to Eco-Spirituality<br />05:40 The Concept of Rewilding and Its Personal Impact<br />08:31 Walking in Reciprocity: A New Perspective on Pilgrimage<br />11:21 Resistance and Transformation on the Spiritual Path<br />13:59 Embodiment and the Journey Within<br />16:47 The Monotony of Pilgrimage: Finding Depth in Repetition<br />25:54 Nature as a Spiritual Guide<br />27:41 Exploring Eco-Spirituality and Healing<br />29:00 Encountering the Wild God<br />31:25 Sources of Inspiration and Wisdom<br />35:25 The Call for Reciprocity with Nature<br />36:31 Emerging from Extinction: A New Perspective<br />39:12 Building Communities for Sustainability<br />39:18 Delighting in Connection with Nature<br />43:00 Finding Guidance in Nature<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63694665</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63694665/nathan_shultz.mp3" length="43627577" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Nathan Schultz, founder of Path Wise Ventures, joins us today to talk about the wisdom of wild places. Raised as a missionary kid outdoors, Nathan’s journey from coporate funraising to pilgrimage leader is one of following his own interior knowing. We...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Nathan Schultz, founder of Path Wise Ventures, joins us today to talk about the wisdom of wild places. Raised as a missionary kid outdoors, Nathan’s journey from coporate funraising to pilgrimage leader is one of following his own interior knowing. We dive into the importance of connecting with natural spaces, of following the call of our hearts, and of embracing mystery. Nathan’s imaginative view of the world reminds us that we’d all be better off if we remembered we were friends with the trees. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.path-wise-ventures.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Path Wise Ventures<br /></a><a href="https://www.wildspirituality.earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Center for Wild Spirituality <br /></a><a href="https://tomhirons.com/poetry/sometimes-a-wild-god" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sometimes a Wild God - Tom Hirons</a><br /><a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Matthew Fox </a><br /><a href="https://www.animas.org/about-us/our-founder/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bill Plotkin - Animist (Eco psychology)</a><br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/68210.Gilead" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead - Marilynne Robinson</a><br /><a href="https://namostamand.medium.com/when-i-was-the-forest-spiritual-poetry-by-meister-eckhart-ceb5a9d3855b" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When I was the Forest - Meister Eckhart <br /></a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Exploring John Muir's Legacy and Evolution<br />02:44 Nathan's Journey: From Missionary Kid to Eco-Spirituality<br />05:40 The Concept of Rewilding and Its Personal Impact<br />08:31 Walking in Reciprocity: A New Perspective on Pilgrimage<br />11:21 Resistance and Transformation on the Spiritual Path<br />13:59 Embodiment and the Journey Within<br />16:47 The Monotony of Pilgrimage: Finding Depth in Repetition<br />25:54 Nature as a Spiritual Guide<br />27:41 Exploring Eco-Spirituality and Healing<br />29:00 Encountering the Wild God<br />31:25 Sources of Inspiration and Wisdom<br />35:25 The Call for Reciprocity with Nature<br />36:31 Emerging from Extinction: A New Perspective<br />39:12 Building Communities for Sustainability<br />39:18 Delighting in Connection with Nature<br />43:00 Finding Guidance in Nature<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2727</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,eco-spirituality,embodiment,enchantment,muir,nature,pilgrimage,reciprocity,rewilding,spirituality,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Carl McColman Invites Us into Mystery</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/carl-mccolman-invites-us-into-mystery--63608472</link><description><![CDATA[This week pilgrimage with us into the expansive mind of spiritual director, author, and contemplative teacher <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/encountering-silence/id1310186933" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl McColman</a>. Carl’s vast knowledge of mysticism, Thomas Merton, and contemplative concepts makes this a fascinating and open ended conversation. Carl walks us through four fundamental questions he journeys through as a spiritual director: <br /><br />Throughout this imaginative chat we are reminded of what is possible when we approach the world in a spirit of hospitality and carve out time for intentional silence.<br /><ol><li>Who am I?</li><li>Who is God?</li><li>Who are we? </li><li>Who are they?</li></ol>Throughout this imaginative chat we are reminded of what is possible when we approach the world in a spirit of hospitality and carve out time for intentional silence.<br /><br />Cool things we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.anamchara.com/carl/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl McColman</a></li><li><a href="https://www.anamchara.com/carl/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encountering Silence Podcast<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://bookstore.wordonfire.org/products/seven-storey-mountain?srsltid=AfmBOooCuUGW-RxqNI4GBvOY-MSAIaQYJb7IKdHH5DumjjA4PUuRT2wq" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Seven Story Mountain by Thomas Merton<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/mysticism-9781851680771?shipto=US&amp;curcode=USD&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvO7BhC-ARIsAGFyToWYW6Db0aMR4ah93p1tgv5KlX3Yd3Ob65DYqk6w6rcX2Tyilk50tb4aApAqEALw_wcB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mysticism by: Evelyn Underhill<br /></a></li><li><a href="http://carlmccolman" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46545/eagle-poem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eagle Poem by: Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Epiphany of Thomas Merton<br />02:54 Introducing Carl McColman<br />05:51 The Influence of Monastic Spirituality<br />08:33 The Importance of the Interior Life<br />11:30 The Future of Christianity and Mysticism<br />22:28 Understanding Mysticism<br />32:41 Entering Silence: Practical Steps<br />38:09 Embracing Silence and Solitude<br />40:55 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />43:11 Understanding Relationships: Who Am I and Who Are They?<br />46:39 Saint Makers: Growth Through Conflict<br />48:32 Metaphors of Mysticism: Marriage and Pilgrimage<br />50:35 Interfaith Dialogue and Spiritual Growth]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63608472</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63608472/carl_mccolman.mp3" length="62229686" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week pilgrimage with us into the expansive mind of spiritual director, author, and contemplative teacher https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/encountering-silence/id1310186933. Carl’s vast knowledge of mysticism, Thomas Merton, and contemplative...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week pilgrimage with us into the expansive mind of spiritual director, author, and contemplative teacher <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/encountering-silence/id1310186933" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl McColman</a>. Carl’s vast knowledge of mysticism, Thomas Merton, and contemplative concepts makes this a fascinating and open ended conversation. Carl walks us through four fundamental questions he journeys through as a spiritual director: <br /><br />Throughout this imaginative chat we are reminded of what is possible when we approach the world in a spirit of hospitality and carve out time for intentional silence.<br /><ol><li>Who am I?</li><li>Who is God?</li><li>Who are we? </li><li>Who are they?</li></ol>Throughout this imaginative chat we are reminded of what is possible when we approach the world in a spirit of hospitality and carve out time for intentional silence.<br /><br />Cool things we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.anamchara.com/carl/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl McColman</a></li><li><a href="https://www.anamchara.com/carl/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Encountering Silence Podcast<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://bookstore.wordonfire.org/products/seven-storey-mountain?srsltid=AfmBOooCuUGW-RxqNI4GBvOY-MSAIaQYJb7IKdHH5DumjjA4PUuRT2wq" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Seven Story Mountain by Thomas Merton<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/mysticism-9781851680771?shipto=US&amp;curcode=USD&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvO7BhC-ARIsAGFyToWYW6Db0aMR4ah93p1tgv5KlX3Yd3Ob65DYqk6w6rcX2Tyilk50tb4aApAqEALw_wcB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mysticism by: Evelyn Underhill<br /></a></li><li><a href="http://carlmccolman" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Carl’s Instagram</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/46545/eagle-poem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eagle Poem by: Joy Harjo</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Epiphany of Thomas Merton<br />02:54 Introducing Carl McColman<br />05:51 The Influence of Monastic Spirituality<br />08:33 The Importance of the Interior Life<br />11:30 The Future of Christianity and Mysticism<br />22:28 Understanding Mysticism<br />32:41 Entering Silence: Practical Steps<br />38:09 Embracing Silence and Solitude<br />40:55 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />43:11 Understanding Relationships: Who Am I and Who Are They?<br />46:39 Saint Makers: Growth Through Conflict<br />48:32 Metaphors of Mysticism: Marriage and Pilgrimage<br />50:35 Interfaith Dialogue and Spiritual Growth]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3890</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>compassion,interfaith,interiorlife,journey,mccolman,merton,mysticism,pilgrimage,silence,spirituality,thomasmerton</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Cheers to an Enchanting New Year</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/cheers-to-an-enchanting-new-year--63531022</link><description><![CDATA[Cheers to you dear listeners! Thank you for your support of Radical Sacred. This week we reminisce on all the ways the year has unfolded since our first episode of 2024 and we look towards our hopes and discuss our honest fears for 2025. Join us as we choose an intentional word as we head into this new year. Even if you’re not down with the Gregorian calendar, we recognize the beauty and potential of viewing each day as a new beginning. <br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-new-year-and-introductions/id1722132249?i=1000640228009" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred 2024 New Year’s Episode <br /></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-journey-from-fiction-to-non-fiction-with-rob-bell/id1722132249?i=1000676789213" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Bell Episode <br /></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pilgrimage-to-self-and-each-other-with-kelly-and-jess/id1722132249?i=1000671540089" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kelly and Jess Love Story <br /></a><a href="https://sharonblackie.net/the-enchanted-life/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enchanted Life By Sharon Blackie <br /></a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bainbridgeyogahouse/p/CzWjA9PR13Q/?api=1%2F&amp;hl=zh-cn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Benediction for the New Year by Sophie Strand <br /></a><a href="https://sage-ing.org/wp-content/uploads/ODonohue-ForaNewBeginning.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For a New Beginning by John O’Donohue </a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 A New Year Benediction<br />06:33 Nature's Healing Power<br />12:05 Tools for Self-Reflection<br />17:18 Exploring Enchantment: Four Aspects of Connection<br />22:46 Imagination and Childhood: Rediscovering Enchantment<br />28:26 Embracing Creation: A New Year’s Intention<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63531022</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63531022/new_year_s.mp3" length="32939522" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Cheers to you dear listeners! Thank you for your support of Radical Sacred. This week we reminisce on all the ways the year has unfolded since our first episode of 2024 and we look towards our hopes and discuss our honest fears for 2025. Join us as we...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Cheers to you dear listeners! Thank you for your support of Radical Sacred. This week we reminisce on all the ways the year has unfolded since our first episode of 2024 and we look towards our hopes and discuss our honest fears for 2025. Join us as we choose an intentional word as we head into this new year. Even if you’re not down with the Gregorian calendar, we recognize the beauty and potential of viewing each day as a new beginning. <br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happy-new-year-and-introductions/id1722132249?i=1000640228009" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred 2024 New Year’s Episode <br /></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-journey-from-fiction-to-non-fiction-with-rob-bell/id1722132249?i=1000676789213" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Bell Episode <br /></a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pilgrimage-to-self-and-each-other-with-kelly-and-jess/id1722132249?i=1000671540089" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kelly and Jess Love Story <br /></a><a href="https://sharonblackie.net/the-enchanted-life/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enchanted Life By Sharon Blackie <br /></a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/bainbridgeyogahouse/p/CzWjA9PR13Q/?api=1%2F&amp;hl=zh-cn" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Benediction for the New Year by Sophie Strand <br /></a><a href="https://sage-ing.org/wp-content/uploads/ODonohue-ForaNewBeginning.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For a New Beginning by John O’Donohue </a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 A New Year Benediction<br />06:33 Nature's Healing Power<br />12:05 Tools for Self-Reflection<br />17:18 Exploring Enchantment: Four Aspects of Connection<br />22:46 Imagination and Childhood: Rediscovering Enchantment<br />28:26 Embracing Creation: A New Year’s Intention<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2059</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>becoming,create,enchantment,grief,growth,imagination,integrate,nature,newyear,personal,reflection,resist,resolutions,self-discovery</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Y'all Want to See a Fresh Baby?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/y-all-want-to-see-a-fresh-baby--63464094</link><description><![CDATA[Quick note, we had a little issue with Jenny's audio in this episode. Apologies for the few places her audio drops out. If you have questions about what she said, or you think she said, feel free to reach out to us!<br /><br />Merry Christmas from Radical Sacred! This week we went on a walk instead of having a meeting and it unexpectedly led to the delight of holding a friend's brand new baby. When we’re met with the Incarnation of God in a beautiful moment whether it be through the story of Mary’s Journey and the birth of Jesus or through holding a neighbors “fresh baby” we are reminded that God is with us and invites us into Incarnation as well. This Christmas season we invite you to listen to this episode and think about the ways you too can tap into the depth and breadth and love of Mary’s sacred heart. <br /><br />Cool things we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.metropolitaname.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Bill Lamar Dec. 22nd sermon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fumcrockwall.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chris Yost. Dec. 22nd sermon</a></li><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E30d9AJh9gQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wake up Child by: Birdtalker</a></li><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uqEZQksNfF4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sway by: Kacey Musgraves</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%201%3A39-56&amp;version=CEB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luke 1:39-56 (CEB)</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Christmas Reflections and Introductions<br />04:24 Mary's Journey and the Magnificat<br />08:43 The Importance of Community and Support<br />13:00 The Significance of the Incarnation<br />16:47 Songs of the Season and New Beginnings<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63464094</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Dec 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63464094/fresh_baby.mp3" length="27168759" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Quick note, we had a little issue with Jenny's audio in this episode. Apologies for the few places her audio drops out. If you have questions about what she said, or you think she said, feel free to reach out to us!

Merry Christmas from Radical...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Quick note, we had a little issue with Jenny's audio in this episode. Apologies for the few places her audio drops out. If you have questions about what she said, or you think she said, feel free to reach out to us!<br /><br />Merry Christmas from Radical Sacred! This week we went on a walk instead of having a meeting and it unexpectedly led to the delight of holding a friend's brand new baby. When we’re met with the Incarnation of God in a beautiful moment whether it be through the story of Mary’s Journey and the birth of Jesus or through holding a neighbors “fresh baby” we are reminded that God is with us and invites us into Incarnation as well. This Christmas season we invite you to listen to this episode and think about the ways you too can tap into the depth and breadth and love of Mary’s sacred heart. <br /><br />Cool things we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.metropolitaname.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Bill Lamar Dec. 22nd sermon</a></li><li><a href="https://www.fumcrockwall.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chris Yost. Dec. 22nd sermon</a></li><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E30d9AJh9gQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wake up Child by: Birdtalker</a></li><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uqEZQksNfF4" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sway by: Kacey Musgraves</a></li><li><a href="https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%201%3A39-56&amp;version=CEB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Luke 1:39-56 (CEB)</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Christmas Reflections and Introductions<br />04:24 Mary's Journey and the Magnificat<br />08:43 The Importance of Community and Support<br />13:00 The Significance of the Incarnation<br />16:47 Songs of the Season and New Beginnings<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1699</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>christmas,community,faith,incarnation,joy,justice,magnificat,mary,pilgrimage,reflection,song,soul</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Winter Solstice and the Pilgrimage of the Firefly</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/winter-solstice-and-the-pilgrimage-of-the-firefly--63366569</link><description><![CDATA[When the seasons are changing how do we respond? This episode we talk about the light that is found when we begin to look within, the wisdom of learning to walk in the darkness, and the different ways that we can honor the changing weather and our changing humanity. Whether we call it Winter Solstice, Advent, or simply the movement from fall to winter- how are we being invited into our own depths and what will our response be? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this week (or meant to anyways): <br />Find "Common Eastern Firefly" in the book "<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/all-creation-waits-gift-edition-gayle-boss/1142093109" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">All Creation Waits: The Advent Mystery of New Beginnings</a>" <br /><a href="http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/mary_oliver/poems/15859" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snowy Night by Mary Oliver <br /></a><a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/seasonal/advent" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advent from a United Methodist Perspective </a><br /><a href="https://cac.org/daily-meditations/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advent: In Anticipation <br /></a><a href="https://westportlibrary.libguides.com/wintersolstice" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Winter Solstice <br /></a><a href="https://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Poets/B/BerryWendell/ToKnowDark/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">To Know the Dark by: Wendell Berry</a><br /><a href="https://canterburypress.hymnsam.co.uk/authors/barbara-brown-taylor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Barbara Brown Taylor</a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Life Cycle of Fireflies: A Metaphor for Transformation<br />05:22 The Winter Solstice: A Time for Reflection and Growth<br />10:54 The Beauty of the Night Sky: Nature's Wonder<br />16:22 The Journey of Advent: Waiting and Anticipation<br />21:52 Apocalyptic Texts: The Promise of New Birth<br />27:00 The Journey into Darkness<br />32:17 Disorder, Reorder, and Orientation<br />37:28 Finding Connection in the Dark<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63366569</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63366569/winter_solstice.mp3" length="40930489" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>When the seasons are changing how do we respond? This episode we talk about the light that is found when we begin to look within, the wisdom of learning to walk in the darkness, and the different ways that we can honor the changing weather and our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[When the seasons are changing how do we respond? This episode we talk about the light that is found when we begin to look within, the wisdom of learning to walk in the darkness, and the different ways that we can honor the changing weather and our changing humanity. Whether we call it Winter Solstice, Advent, or simply the movement from fall to winter- how are we being invited into our own depths and what will our response be? <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned this week (or meant to anyways): <br />Find "Common Eastern Firefly" in the book "<a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/all-creation-waits-gift-edition-gayle-boss/1142093109" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">All Creation Waits: The Advent Mystery of New Beginnings</a>" <br /><a href="http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/mary_oliver/poems/15859" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Snowy Night by Mary Oliver <br /></a><a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/seasonal/advent" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advent from a United Methodist Perspective </a><br /><a href="https://cac.org/daily-meditations/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advent: In Anticipation <br /></a><a href="https://westportlibrary.libguides.com/wintersolstice" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Winter Solstice <br /></a><a href="https://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Poets/B/BerryWendell/ToKnowDark/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">To Know the Dark by: Wendell Berry</a><br /><a href="https://canterburypress.hymnsam.co.uk/authors/barbara-brown-taylor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Barbara Brown Taylor</a><br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Life Cycle of Fireflies: A Metaphor for Transformation<br />05:22 The Winter Solstice: A Time for Reflection and Growth<br />10:54 The Beauty of the Night Sky: Nature's Wonder<br />16:22 The Journey of Advent: Waiting and Anticipation<br />21:52 Apocalyptic Texts: The Promise of New Birth<br />27:00 The Journey into Darkness<br />32:17 Disorder, Reorder, and Orientation<br />37:28 Finding Connection in the Dark<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2559</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>change,darkness,fireflies,growth,innerlight,journey,nature,pilgrimage,solstice,transformation,wintersolstice</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage into Storytelling with Kim Powers</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-into-storytelling-with-kim-powers--63261525</link><description><![CDATA[This was a fun and wide ranging conversation with visual artist <a href="http://kvpowers.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kim Powers</a>! Kim shares with us the importance of storytelling and the ways that our stories can either bring us together or tear us apart. We talk about why art and beauty matters, particularly when everything feels kind of dark and the importance of finding the wholeness of all the things. Kim invites us to make room for the fullness of others, and in doing so, we also make room for the fullness of ourselves. <br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2011%252F02%252F17.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Art Sanctuary by Nikki Giovanni <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23730262/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Die Alone <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://adriennemareebrown.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Adrienne Maree Brown <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.kvpowersdesign.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kim’s gorgeous website <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=658109985576315" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Bridge Deep Divides with Loved Ones - Ted Talk with Betty Hart </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Art as Sanctuary<br />02:39 Creative Pilgrimage and Personal Journeys<br />05:29 Storytelling as a Connective Tissue<br />08:13 The Nature of Pilgrimage<br />10:52 Spirituality and Creativity Intertwined<br />13:19 Navigating Foreign Lands in Storytelling<br />16:08 The Wholeness of People in Storytelling<br />18:55 Safety and Fear in Narrative<br />21:38 Creating Tension vs. Fear in Theater<br />24:25 The Impact of Audience Expectations<br />27:00 Balancing Personal and Professional Life<br />31:23 Re-centering and Finding Balance<br />32:42 Guides and Relationships<br />34:23 The Importance of Connection<br />36:13 Branching Out and Expanding Worlds<br />38:04 Creativity and Imagining Possibilities<br />39:47 Art as a Reflection of Reality<br />43:50 Balancing Activism and Enjoyment<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63261525</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63261525/kim_powers_ep.mp3" length="49520802" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This was a fun and wide ranging conversation with visual artist http://kvpowers.com! Kim shares with us the importance of storytelling and the ways that our stories can either bring us together or tear us apart. We talk about why art and beauty...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This was a fun and wide ranging conversation with visual artist <a href="http://kvpowers.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kim Powers</a>! Kim shares with us the importance of storytelling and the ways that our stories can either bring us together or tear us apart. We talk about why art and beauty matters, particularly when everything feels kind of dark and the importance of finding the wholeness of all the things. Kim invites us to make room for the fullness of others, and in doing so, we also make room for the fullness of ourselves. <br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://writersalmanac.publicradio.org/index.php%3Fdate=2011%252F02%252F17.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Art Sanctuary by Nikki Giovanni <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23730262/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Die Alone <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://adriennemareebrown.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Adrienne Maree Brown <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.kvpowersdesign.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kim’s gorgeous website <br /></a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=658109985576315" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How to Bridge Deep Divides with Loved Ones - Ted Talk with Betty Hart </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Power of Art as Sanctuary<br />02:39 Creative Pilgrimage and Personal Journeys<br />05:29 Storytelling as a Connective Tissue<br />08:13 The Nature of Pilgrimage<br />10:52 Spirituality and Creativity Intertwined<br />13:19 Navigating Foreign Lands in Storytelling<br />16:08 The Wholeness of People in Storytelling<br />18:55 Safety and Fear in Narrative<br />21:38 Creating Tension vs. Fear in Theater<br />24:25 The Impact of Audience Expectations<br />27:00 Balancing Personal and Professional Life<br />31:23 Re-centering and Finding Balance<br />32:42 Guides and Relationships<br />34:23 The Importance of Connection<br />36:13 Branching Out and Expanding Worlds<br />38:04 Creativity and Imagining Possibilities<br />39:47 Art as a Reflection of Reality<br />43:50 Balancing Activism and Enjoyment<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3096</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>activism,art,community,connection,creativity,growth,human,personal,pilgrimage,spirituality,storytelling,theater</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage Can Be a Real Trip with Rev. Kerra English</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-can-be-a-real-trip-with-rev-kerra-english--63137910</link><description><![CDATA[We are thrilled to have <a href="https://kerraenglish.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reverend Kerra English</a>, spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us about leading with curiosity, recognizing when things need to shift, and all the ways that pilgrimage is really about opening your eyes, your heart and your mind, to the world around you. When we are invited into new ways of knowing whether it be through a conversation with a fellow traveler, or through a Psilocybin study at John’s Hopkins, we become more ourselves.<br /><br />We are thankful to Kerra for her work in the world and for her new book dropping in June of 2025 <a href="https://www.amazon.com/True-Awakening-Highs-Spiritual-Transofrmation/dp/1626986029" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">True Awakening: The Highs, the Lows, and the Mess of Spiritual Transformation</a>.<br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.neighborhoodarchive.com/music/songs/love_is_people.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Love is People By Mr. Rogers </a></li><li><a href="https://www.richmondhillva.org/programs-events/ruah-school-of-spiritual-guidance/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RUAH School</a></li><li><a href="https://www.davidson.edu/people/doug-ottati" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Doug Ottati</a></li><li><a href="https://kerraenglish.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kerra’s Website</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Love and Community<br />03:28 Curiosity as a Spiritual Gift<br />08:40 Understanding Pilgrimage<br />13:45 Navigating the Dark Night of the Soul<br />18:41 The Importance of Community and Vulnerability<br />21:47 Guidance Through Change and Despair<br />24:02 The Quest for Authentic Truth<br />25:34 Braving the Wilderness: Spiritual Journeys<br />27:56 Courageous Spirituality and Personal Growth<br />32:34 Transformation in the Dark<br />35:38 Exploring Psychedelic Spirituality<br />38:55 Building Community and Connection<br />43:05 Exploring Key Themes and Insights<br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63137910</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63137910/kerra_english.mp3" length="41908511" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We are thrilled to have https://kerraenglish.com/, spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We are thrilled to have <a href="https://kerraenglish.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Reverend Kerra English</a>, spiritual director, retreat leader, pastor, and a no bullshit guide join us today to talk about the many pathways of pilgrimage. In this invitational and thoughtful conversation Kerra talks to us about leading with curiosity, recognizing when things need to shift, and all the ways that pilgrimage is really about opening your eyes, your heart and your mind, to the world around you. When we are invited into new ways of knowing whether it be through a conversation with a fellow traveler, or through a Psilocybin study at John’s Hopkins, we become more ourselves.<br /><br />We are thankful to Kerra for her work in the world and for her new book dropping in June of 2025 <a href="https://www.amazon.com/True-Awakening-Highs-Spiritual-Transofrmation/dp/1626986029" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">True Awakening: The Highs, the Lows, and the Mess of Spiritual Transformation</a>.<br /><br />Cool stuff we talked about this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.neighborhoodarchive.com/music/songs/love_is_people.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Love is People By Mr. Rogers </a></li><li><a href="https://www.richmondhillva.org/programs-events/ruah-school-of-spiritual-guidance/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RUAH School</a></li><li><a href="https://www.davidson.edu/people/doug-ottati" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Doug Ottati</a></li><li><a href="https://kerraenglish.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kerra’s Website</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Essence of Love and Community<br />03:28 Curiosity as a Spiritual Gift<br />08:40 Understanding Pilgrimage<br />13:45 Navigating the Dark Night of the Soul<br />18:41 The Importance of Community and Vulnerability<br />21:47 Guidance Through Change and Despair<br />24:02 The Quest for Authentic Truth<br />25:34 Braving the Wilderness: Spiritual Journeys<br />27:56 Courageous Spirituality and Personal Growth<br />32:34 Transformation in the Dark<br />35:38 Exploring Psychedelic Spirituality<br />38:55 Building Community and Connection<br />43:05 Exploring Key Themes and Insights<br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2620</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,courage,dark,darknightofthesoul,direction,love,mrrogers,pilgrimage,psilocybin,spiritual,spirituality,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Keep Your Fork with Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/keep-your-fork-with-rev-ashley-anne-sipe--63021745</link><description><![CDATA[This week we are thankful for this gorgeous conversation with <a href="https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/about/meet-the-pastor/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe</a> of <a href="https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vista Ridge UMC!</a> Ashley Anne walks us through her own pilgrimage which began with an honest conversation and call out from a fellow clergy woman. This thoughtful invitation is about learning to walk in our own darkness, the truly radical practice of loving all that is, and the deeply intimate connection that only comes with vulnerability. We are grateful for Ashley Anne and for her reminder in these wild times to “keep your fork cause sweeter things are coming”. <br />We are also grateful for you, our dear listeners! We know that this holiday season might be tricky to navigate.  A gentle reminder to take good care and keep your fork. You are not alone and you are loved deeply by the very source of love. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://interactioninstitute.org/the-growing-edge-2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://interactioninstitute.org/the-growing-edge-2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman quote on the growing edge</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKzUbAiswE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Turning Red</a></li><li><a href="https://barbarabrowntaylor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Barbara Brown Taylor </a>   </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/006227208X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns </a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-catherine-of-siena/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Catherine of Sienna</a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-teresa-of-avila/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teresa of Avila</a></li><li><a href="https://carmelitesofboston.org/history/our-carmelite-saints/brother-lawrence-of-the-resurrection/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brother Lawrence</a></li><li><a href="https://jenhatmaker.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jen Hatmaker</a></li><li><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/backpacking-with-the-saints-9780199927814?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Backpacking with the Saints </a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Growing Edge: A Journey of Hope<br />02:57 Defining Pilgrimage: A Spiritual Journey<br />05:54 Personal Pilgrimages: Stories of Transformation<br />09:07 Embracing Darkness: The Journey Within<br />12:02 The Monster Within: Understanding Our Shadows<br />14:40 Pastoral Care: A Shift in Perspective<br />17:53 Building Community Through Vulnerability<br />26:00 Embracing Vulnerability in Leadership<br />28:10 The Power of Mystics in Healing<br />30:54 Navigating Paradoxes of Faith<br />34:29 From Orthodoxy to Orthopraxy<br />38:59 The Challenge of Radical Love<br />39:32 Finding Hope Through Childlike Wonder<br />43:45 Chasing Beauty and Gratitude<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63021745</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63021745/keep_your_fork.mp3" length="46188414" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we are thankful for this gorgeous conversation with https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/about/meet-the-pastor/ of https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/ Ashley Anne walks us through her own pilgrimage which began with an honest conversation and call out...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we are thankful for this gorgeous conversation with <a href="https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/about/meet-the-pastor/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Ashley Anne Sipe</a> of <a href="https://www.vistaridgeumc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Vista Ridge UMC!</a> Ashley Anne walks us through her own pilgrimage which began with an honest conversation and call out from a fellow clergy woman. This thoughtful invitation is about learning to walk in our own darkness, the truly radical practice of loving all that is, and the deeply intimate connection that only comes with vulnerability. We are grateful for Ashley Anne and for her reminder in these wild times to “keep your fork cause sweeter things are coming”. <br />We are also grateful for you, our dear listeners! We know that this holiday season might be tricky to navigate.  A gentle reminder to take good care and keep your fork. You are not alone and you are loved deeply by the very source of love. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://interactioninstitute.org/the-growing-edge-2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://interactioninstitute.org/the-growing-edge-2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Howard Thurman quote on the growing edge</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdKzUbAiswE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Turning Red</a></li><li><a href="https://barbarabrowntaylor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Barbara Brown Taylor </a>   </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Sin-Certainty-Desires-Correct-Beliefs/dp/006227208X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sin of Certainty by Pete Enns </a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-catherine-of-siena/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Catherine of Sienna</a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/saint-of-the-day/saint-teresa-of-avila/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Teresa of Avila</a></li><li><a href="https://carmelitesofboston.org/history/our-carmelite-saints/brother-lawrence-of-the-resurrection/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brother Lawrence</a></li><li><a href="https://jenhatmaker.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jen Hatmaker</a></li><li><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/backpacking-with-the-saints-9780199927814?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Backpacking with the Saints </a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 The Growing Edge: A Journey of Hope<br />02:57 Defining Pilgrimage: A Spiritual Journey<br />05:54 Personal Pilgrimages: Stories of Transformation<br />09:07 Embracing Darkness: The Journey Within<br />12:02 The Monster Within: Understanding Our Shadows<br />14:40 Pastoral Care: A Shift in Perspective<br />17:53 Building Community Through Vulnerability<br />26:00 Embracing Vulnerability in Leadership<br />28:10 The Power of Mystics in Healing<br />30:54 Navigating Paradoxes of Faith<br />34:29 From Orthodoxy to Orthopraxy<br />38:59 The Challenge of Radical Love<br />39:32 Finding Hope Through Childlike Wonder<br />43:45 Chasing Beauty and Gratitude<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2887</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,darkness,hope,leadership,love,mystics,pilgrimage,spirituality,transformation,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage in the Prepositions</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-in-the-prepositions--62812259</link><description><![CDATA[In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. <br /><br />Some of the people referenced in this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.octaviabutler.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Octavia Butler</a></li><li><a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John O'Donohue</a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/who-was-st-francis-of-assisi/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">St. Francis of Assisi</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Exploring Vocation and Nature<br />05:51 The Call: Understanding Our Purpose<br />11:59 Identifying What We Are Called Toward<br />18:00 The Importance of Beauty and Play in Life<br />24:06 The Power of Shared Experiences<br />25:33 Exploring the Concept of Calling<br />26:55 Biblical Figures as Guides<br />28:09 Understanding Ecclesiastes<br />30:49 Life's Meaning Through Mortality<br />31:43 Influential Historical Figures<br />32:58 The Impact of Fiction on Theology<br />36:40 Contemporary Influences in Faith<br />38:54 The Call to Stay and Serve<br />40:11 Finding Beauty in Change<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62812259</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 23:32:42 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62812259/prepositions.mp3" length="39753094" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this conversation we explore Phil's recent experience at Princeton, focusing on the importance of grounding oneself in nature and the significance of understanding one's purpose. We talk about the need for beauty and play in life, especially during challenging times, and the importance of creating spaces for risk-taking and personal growth. We talk about calling through the lens of prepostions: called by, called to, called with, and called away from as a bonus. <br /><br />Some of the people referenced in this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.octaviabutler.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Octavia Butler</a></li><li><a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John O'Donohue</a></li><li><a href="https://www.franciscanmedia.org/who-was-st-francis-of-assisi/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">St. Francis of Assisi</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Exploring Vocation and Nature<br />05:51 The Call: Understanding Our Purpose<br />11:59 Identifying What We Are Called Toward<br />18:00 The Importance of Beauty and Play in Life<br />24:06 The Power of Shared Experiences<br />25:33 Exploring the Concept of Calling<br />26:55 Biblical Figures as Guides<br />28:09 Understanding Ecclesiastes<br />30:49 Life's Meaning Through Mortality<br />31:43 Influential Historical Figures<br />32:58 The Impact of Fiction on Theology<br />36:40 Contemporary Influences in Faith<br />38:54 The Call to Stay and Serve<br />40:11 Finding Beauty in Change<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2485</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>journey,nature,pilgrimage,preposition,princeton,reflect,theology</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Journey from Fiction to Non-Fiction with Rob Bell</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-journey-from-fiction-to-non-fiction-with-rob-bell--62704695</link><description><![CDATA[<a href="https://robbell.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Bell </a>joins us today in this post election haze. His hopeful and honest insight is sooooo good. Rob talks to us about pilgrimage and books <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">1</a> and <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship_book_2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">2</a> of his imaginative, beautiful series - <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Where’d You Park Your Spaceship</a>. We are beyond grateful to share space with this fabulous author, speaker, thinker, and artist! You can find Rob Bell’s work, including his podcast, The Robcast, on<a href="https://robbell.com/rob-bell-on-patreon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Patreon</a>. We begin and end this episode with Mary Oliver’s poem <a href="https://janicefalls.wordpress.com/2020/01/17/instructions-for-living-a-life-by-mary-oliver/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instructions for Living a Life</a>.<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Navigating Post-Election Emotions<br />03:00 The Journey from Nonfiction to Fiction<br />05:38 The Art of Naming and Character Development<br />08:41 Exploring Female Perspectives in Storytelling<br />11:44 The Role of Creativity and Joy in Life<br />14:45 The Impact of Relationships on Personal Growth<br />31:34 Trusting in Abundance and Generativity<br />32:34 Hope in Uncertainty<br />33:24 Reimagining Work and Community<br />35:14 The Death of Mythologies<br />37:31 Navigating Grief and Panic<br />39:19 Creating Space for Presence<br />41:09 The Role of the Individual in Change<br />43:12 The Art of Noticing<br />44:59 The Death of Fantasy<br />46:44 Embracing Vulnerability<br />48:22 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />50:25 Graciousness in the Process<br />52:20 The Experiment of Democracy<br />54:14 The Call of Water and Nature]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62704695</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2024 11:15:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62704695/rob_bell.mp3" length="64913815" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>https://robbell.com/joins us today in this post election haze. His hopeful and honest insight is sooooo good. Rob talks to us about pilgrimage and books https://robbell.com/book/spaceship/ and https://robbell.com/book/spaceship_book_2/ of his...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<a href="https://robbell.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Bell </a>joins us today in this post election haze. His hopeful and honest insight is sooooo good. Rob talks to us about pilgrimage and books <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">1</a> and <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship_book_2/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">2</a> of his imaginative, beautiful series - <a href="https://robbell.com/book/spaceship/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Where’d You Park Your Spaceship</a>. We are beyond grateful to share space with this fabulous author, speaker, thinker, and artist! You can find Rob Bell’s work, including his podcast, The Robcast, on<a href="https://robbell.com/rob-bell-on-patreon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Patreon</a>. We begin and end this episode with Mary Oliver’s poem <a href="https://janicefalls.wordpress.com/2020/01/17/instructions-for-living-a-life-by-mary-oliver/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instructions for Living a Life</a>.<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Navigating Post-Election Emotions<br />03:00 The Journey from Nonfiction to Fiction<br />05:38 The Art of Naming and Character Development<br />08:41 Exploring Female Perspectives in Storytelling<br />11:44 The Role of Creativity and Joy in Life<br />14:45 The Impact of Relationships on Personal Growth<br />31:34 Trusting in Abundance and Generativity<br />32:34 Hope in Uncertainty<br />33:24 Reimagining Work and Community<br />35:14 The Death of Mythologies<br />37:31 Navigating Grief and Panic<br />39:19 Creating Space for Presence<br />41:09 The Role of the Individual in Change<br />43:12 The Art of Noticing<br />44:59 The Death of Fantasy<br />46:44 Embracing Vulnerability<br />48:22 The Journey of Self-Discovery<br />50:25 Graciousness in the Process<br />52:20 The Experiment of Democracy<br />54:14 The Call of Water and Nature]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4058</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,fiction,hope,nonfiction,pilgrimage,robbell,sogood,spirituality,storytelling</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>From Scotland to Home: Bridging Pilgrimage Experiences with Rev. Alexa Eisenbarth</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/from-scotland-to-home-bridging-pilgrimage-experiences-with-rev-alexa-eisenbarth--62622700</link><description><![CDATA[“One pilgrim makes a zealot, two pilgrims makes a pilgrimage” - Ted Lasso<br /><br /><a href="http://alexaeisenbarth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Alexa Eisenbarth</a>, Associate Pastor of <a href="https://fumcoly.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First Olympia UMC </a>joins us today to talk about how her own personal pilgrimage to Scotland translated to her walking with her fellow pilgrims in her home of Olympia, WA and the importance of not going it alone. <br />What do we learn when we go out walking long distances with others? And what can we learn from pilgrimage about the importance of rhythm, care, and rest both individually and in community? We talk about the softening that happens in true community, trees, and how our homes are just as sacred as the places we journey to. Alexa invited us into a ton of imaginative thinking and we know y’all will enjoy hearing this one!Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.garrett.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Eisenbarth-YAI-Essay-F.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alexa’s article The Posture of Trees: A Picture of Church Leadership </a></li><li><a href="https://fumcoly.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First Olympia UMC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/saiojourneys?_rdr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saio Journeys</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gileadchicago.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead Chicago</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram 1: The Reformer</a></li></ul><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /></a>Questions Alexa’s Group Processed while on pilgrimage that you may want to sit with in this post election time period : (from the Parish Collective)<br /><ul><li>What do you notice?</li><li>What do you avoid?</li><li>What’s missing?</li><li>What delights you?</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Community Engagement<br />04:38 The Experience of Pilgrimage in Scotland<br />10:17 The Spiritual and Emotional Aspects of Group Pilgrimage<br />16:33 The Enneagram Perspective on Pilgrimage<br />21:11 Bridging Experiences: From Scotland to Local Community<br />26:56 Creating Neighborhood Pilgrimages and Collective Reflection<br />36:01 The Power of Civic Life<br />38:46 Understanding Our Neighborhoods<br />39:58 Defining Neighborliness<br />42:37 The Role of Community in Education<br />47:21 The Significance of Trees<br />54:05 Navigating Political Challenges<br />59:58 A Call to Action<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62622700</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62622700/alexa_e.mp3" length="59660903" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“One pilgrim makes a zealot, two pilgrims makes a pilgrimage” - Ted Lasso

http://alexaeisenbarth, Associate Pastor of https://fumcoly.org/joins us today to talk about how her own personal pilgrimage to Scotland translated to her walking with her...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“One pilgrim makes a zealot, two pilgrims makes a pilgrimage” - Ted Lasso<br /><br /><a href="http://alexaeisenbarth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Alexa Eisenbarth</a>, Associate Pastor of <a href="https://fumcoly.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First Olympia UMC </a>joins us today to talk about how her own personal pilgrimage to Scotland translated to her walking with her fellow pilgrims in her home of Olympia, WA and the importance of not going it alone. <br />What do we learn when we go out walking long distances with others? And what can we learn from pilgrimage about the importance of rhythm, care, and rest both individually and in community? We talk about the softening that happens in true community, trees, and how our homes are just as sacred as the places we journey to. Alexa invited us into a ton of imaginative thinking and we know y’all will enjoy hearing this one!Cool stuff we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.garrett.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Eisenbarth-YAI-Essay-F.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alexa’s article The Posture of Trees: A Picture of Church Leadership </a></li><li><a href="https://fumcoly.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First Olympia UMC</a></li><li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/saiojourneys?_rdr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saio Journeys</a></li><li><a href="https://www.gileadchicago.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gilead Chicago</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram 1: The Reformer</a></li></ul><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-1/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /></a>Questions Alexa’s Group Processed while on pilgrimage that you may want to sit with in this post election time period : (from the Parish Collective)<br /><ul><li>What do you notice?</li><li>What do you avoid?</li><li>What’s missing?</li><li>What delights you?</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Community Engagement<br />04:38 The Experience of Pilgrimage in Scotland<br />10:17 The Spiritual and Emotional Aspects of Group Pilgrimage<br />16:33 The Enneagram Perspective on Pilgrimage<br />21:11 Bridging Experiences: From Scotland to Local Community<br />26:56 Creating Neighborhood Pilgrimages and Collective Reflection<br />36:01 The Power of Civic Life<br />38:46 Understanding Our Neighborhoods<br />39:58 Defining Neighborliness<br />42:37 The Role of Community in Education<br />47:21 The Significance of Trees<br />54:05 Navigating Political Challenges<br />59:58 A Call to Action<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3729</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>challenges,community,engagement,love,pilgrimage,relationships,scotland,spirituality,trees</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage Begins with The Door</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-begins-with-the-door--62554656</link><description><![CDATA[An important part of pilgrimage is noticing the invitations that are all around us. Every pilgrimage begins with recognizing. What is inviting you to more of you and how can we recognize the doors that are for us. As you move through the world the next couple of weeks we wanted to give you practical advice on how to identify your own doors. Try 1 or 2 of these spiritual practices consistently and see what comes up for you in this time. <br /><ol><li>Journal for a few minutes every day. Start off simply - roses, bud, thorns. Reflect after two weeks - what are your patterns - what is helpful for you? What is perpetually harming you? Adjust accordingly.</li><li>Take a walk outside in the same place every day for 2 two weeks. Don’t listen to anything but yourself. Notice what comes up.</li><li>Talk to a safe friend about a time when you felt connected to your joy. Recognizing what’s bringing us joy helps us identify our doors.</li><li>Are you reading something that inspires you daily? Read or listen to 5-10 minutes of music, a podcast, or nature sounds that bring you back to yourself.</li><li>Remember to breathe. How is your breath today friend?  Place your hand on your heart and mindfully breathe for a few minutes. How does your body feel? Your mind? How are you a part of liberation of self and others? Part of finding our doors is being keenly aware of our place in humanity and serving others.</li></ol>We conclude this episode with a blessing from John O'Donohue:<br />A Blessing Prayer in Difficult Times<br />by John O’Donohue<br />May you know tender shelter and healing blessing<br />when you are called to stand in the place of pain.<br />May the places of darkness within you be surprised by light.<br />May you be granted the wisdom to avoid false resistance and<br />when suffering knocks on the door of your life, may you be able to glimpse its hidden gift.<br />May you be able to see the fruits of suffering.<br />May memory bless and shelter you with the hard-earned light of past turmoil,<br />to remind you that you have survived before,<br />And though the darkness is now deep,<br />You will soon see approaching light.<br />May this give you confidence and trust.<br />May a window of light always surprise you.<br />May the grace of transfiguration heal your wounds.<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62554656</guid><pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 11:38:06 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62554656/doors.mp3" length="29650178" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>An important part of pilgrimage is noticing the invitations that are all around us. Every pilgrimage begins with recognizing. What is inviting you to more of you and how can we recognize the doors that are for us. As you move through the world the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[An important part of pilgrimage is noticing the invitations that are all around us. Every pilgrimage begins with recognizing. What is inviting you to more of you and how can we recognize the doors that are for us. As you move through the world the next couple of weeks we wanted to give you practical advice on how to identify your own doors. Try 1 or 2 of these spiritual practices consistently and see what comes up for you in this time. <br /><ol><li>Journal for a few minutes every day. Start off simply - roses, bud, thorns. Reflect after two weeks - what are your patterns - what is helpful for you? What is perpetually harming you? Adjust accordingly.</li><li>Take a walk outside in the same place every day for 2 two weeks. Don’t listen to anything but yourself. Notice what comes up.</li><li>Talk to a safe friend about a time when you felt connected to your joy. Recognizing what’s bringing us joy helps us identify our doors.</li><li>Are you reading something that inspires you daily? Read or listen to 5-10 minutes of music, a podcast, or nature sounds that bring you back to yourself.</li><li>Remember to breathe. How is your breath today friend?  Place your hand on your heart and mindfully breathe for a few minutes. How does your body feel? Your mind? How are you a part of liberation of self and others? Part of finding our doors is being keenly aware of our place in humanity and serving others.</li></ol>We conclude this episode with a blessing from John O'Donohue:<br />A Blessing Prayer in Difficult Times<br />by John O’Donohue<br />May you know tender shelter and healing blessing<br />when you are called to stand in the place of pain.<br />May the places of darkness within you be surprised by light.<br />May you be granted the wisdom to avoid false resistance and<br />when suffering knocks on the door of your life, may you be able to glimpse its hidden gift.<br />May you be able to see the fruits of suffering.<br />May memory bless and shelter you with the hard-earned light of past turmoil,<br />to remind you that you have survived before,<br />And though the darkness is now deep,<br />You will soon see approaching light.<br />May this give you confidence and trust.<br />May a window of light always surprise you.<br />May the grace of transfiguration heal your wounds.<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1854</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Journey to Integration using Internal Family Systems with Hillary Owen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-journey-to-integration-using-internal-family-systems-with-hillary-owen--62467044</link><description><![CDATA[Hillary Owen of <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a> joins us again today inviting us to journey inward as she shares about <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/internal-family-systems-therapy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Internal Family Systems</a>.  <br /><br />Hillary takes a complex topic like IFS and makes it easy by using imagery and storytelling. We learn that we all have different parts that make up our Internal Family Systems. All of our parts are inherently good but not all of our parts need to have the same authority in our lives. Hillary helps us journey through the expired behavior that is no longer serving us and reclaim the freedom of wholehearted living by embracing all of our parts. <br /><br />If you are interested in working through complex issues with compassionate care contact <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a>. <br /><br />Things we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkBPEG6wDc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We Can Do Hard Things: The Most Radical Way to Heal </a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2b2oz0D3fM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We Can Do Hard Things: Inside an Internal Family Systems Session</a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/no-bad-parts-richard-schwartz-phd/1138718296" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">No Bad Parts by: Richard Schwartz</a><a href="https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></li><li><a href="https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inside Out 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sdicompanions.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spiritual Direction </a></li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-radical-sacred-138276057/episode/attachment-styles-with-hillary-owen-172493606/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Attachment Styles Episode with Hillary </a></li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-radical-sacred-138276057/episode/exploring-the-complexities-of-grief-with-176483619/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Exploring the Complexities of Grief with Hillary </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Internal Family Systems and Grief<br />04:26 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy<br />09:47 The Role of Family in Internal Work<br />14:03 The Importance of Integration in Parts Work<br />18:43 Preparing for the Internal Journey<br />29:41 Engaging with Parts and Finding a Therapist<br />36:27 Navigating Spiritual Practices as a Parent<br />38:57 Understanding Self-Denial and Cooperation<br />42:10 The Role of Trauma and Mental Load in Identity<br />45:36 The Importance of Silence and Community<br />48:51 Integrating Parts Work and Enneagram Insights<br />53:49 Transformative Moments in Personal Growth<br />01:00:04 Resources for Deeper Understanding<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62467044</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62467044/hillary_ifs.mp3" length="59942612" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Hillary Owen of https://www.driftwood-healing.com/ joins us again today inviting us to journey inward as she shares about https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/internal-family-systems-therapy.  

Hillary takes a complex topic like IFS and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Hillary Owen of <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a> joins us again today inviting us to journey inward as she shares about <a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/internal-family-systems-therapy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Internal Family Systems</a>.  <br /><br />Hillary takes a complex topic like IFS and makes it easy by using imagery and storytelling. We learn that we all have different parts that make up our Internal Family Systems. All of our parts are inherently good but not all of our parts need to have the same authority in our lives. Hillary helps us journey through the expired behavior that is no longer serving us and reclaim the freedom of wholehearted living by embracing all of our parts. <br /><br />If you are interested in working through complex issues with compassionate care contact <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a>. <br /><br />Things we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnkBPEG6wDc" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We Can Do Hard Things: The Most Radical Way to Heal </a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2b2oz0D3fM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We Can Do Hard Things: Inside an Internal Family Systems Session</a></li><li><a href="https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/no-bad-parts-richard-schwartz-phd/1138718296" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">No Bad Parts by: Richard Schwartz</a><a href="https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></li><li><a href="https://movies.disney.com/inside-out-2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inside Out 2</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sdicompanions.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Spiritual Direction </a></li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-radical-sacred-138276057/episode/attachment-styles-with-hillary-owen-172493606/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred Attachment Styles Episode with Hillary </a></li><li><a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/53-radical-sacred-138276057/episode/exploring-the-complexities-of-grief-with-176483619/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Exploring the Complexities of Grief with Hillary </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Internal Family Systems and Grief<br />04:26 Understanding Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy<br />09:47 The Role of Family in Internal Work<br />14:03 The Importance of Integration in Parts Work<br />18:43 Preparing for the Internal Journey<br />29:41 Engaging with Parts and Finding a Therapist<br />36:27 Navigating Spiritual Practices as a Parent<br />38:57 Understanding Self-Denial and Cooperation<br />42:10 The Role of Trauma and Mental Load in Identity<br />45:36 The Importance of Silence and Community<br />48:51 Integrating Parts Work and Enneagram Insights<br />53:49 Transformative Moments in Personal Growth<br />01:00:04 Resources for Deeper Understanding<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3747</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>emotional,family,grief,growth,healing,health,integration,mentalhealth,mindfulness,parts,personal,self-denial,self-discovery,spirituality,systems,therapy,trauma,work</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Ty Pierce's Pilgrimage Journey on the Pacific Crest Trail</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ty-pierce-s-pilgrimage-journey-on-the-pacific-crest-trail--62381212</link><description><![CDATA[This week we are thrilled to journey alongside Ty Pierce as he shares about his Pacific Crest Trail hike. Ty walks us through how a resolution to spend 15 nights outdoors and to seek out adventure led him to quitting his corporate job, and ultimately hitting a 2,650 mile trail spanning 3 states, Mexico, and Canada with an acquaintance who would turn into a best friend. Ty’s pilgrimage on the PCT was rigorous and pain filled. It also brought him profound joy, connections to many people he met on the trail, and the knowledge that he could overcome anything by putting one foot in front of the other. Ty’s ability to so willingly respond to the pull of his heart is a fabulous invitation to trust the soft animal of our body when it invites us into our own knowing. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.pcta.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.pcta.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Pacific Crest Trail </a></li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/shows/alone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alone - TV Show</a></li><li><a href="https://vimeo.com/294057514?turnstile=0.jEB1fcN8GXbEo21a_HUIja1Sgtb-2DbZdEexj3v59zpCN2ni24sTpfsj4wifYMCMgfnX0sItegcdaJOZAmXT5TxWWtlhg9dHzX2DEIJ7j6D0it2j1sEXw9aIh9R4CqOYHoUXSlOFqfNVaJPuT-dbqi9w5FvhGYax_W0if9JEHM668ZJUo4Dwujeyj1ptuOYLNDVXSvjqkmZIHB1BzOKBcb1HCWuu6HENOFTxEHywfMz46yx2jDGjhhaxeb4ukevWnR8vND0ENdpUN_jlRzS7p4Q6kJhvM7MTF2ZzbGK1aZvD3-NTIx4hNMgfxjYuNs8NZBM7LGVxBBOJpQV6AXX39q2i8jic7ZU_0ETN5FcGPU8WUAV3mE3EI8XU5ABEyrdVPo7FwxqrlDpClZu-o2G5XekV0FSA7IXRMBxbzwhpk5-AIfBEnbez_sL1kF2KbEIzxBsZ41qcGVtdamsCv1hAWIj5AANpdcl91vq7Hu4kVi2xWOBoeufUBv3-vtBOFgEmNhsUGptb-aljfL4u9WvaE-Myzv333VwRWfXzXfdncTof55-fe77vbxoDyXM4yXxqurRA-n41d3akMQ0hSu2VwW1Y3vHUGfQoafvV3XqazxMYzYkKPLcIYcqN1xddwb2nz3D8c9-N0X_RW1lSg5SeE9QSmLlSYlAg5PGwt2-2ErIKdkRr1DUiukyqBd8rylLeHnnlCDh_PO5LgoR4-o1R6wjcrPITNclHy30wDfo88WANqXpsGCGR_KT-BEYS7W0AzDufGfS13Nb4nXn1FaMo4XBS3-gIXoWz0jpoxggDfR4.ZazLXR4Z_lvXCo3YinwhtA.e48fcb56d27af804cbccde6ceb752588b3bb2b24c130ddb7eaeef83608e22eb3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ty’s Pilgrimage Video</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Personal Journeys<br />07:33 The Decision to Hike the Pacific Crest Trail<br />14:44 Preparing for the Journey: Physical, Mental, and Spiritual Aspects<br />18:31 Surprises and Challenges on the Trail<br />22:06 Understanding the Pacific Crest Trail<br />31:32 Encounters with Nature and Other Hikers<br />34:47 Lessons Learned from the Pacific Crest Trail<br />38:10 Encouragement for Future Pilgrims<br />40:21 Balancing Adventure and Family Life<br />43:15 Final Thoughts on Kindness and Joy<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62381212</guid><pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 11:24:49 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62381212/ty_pierce.mp3" length="47166847" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we are thrilled to journey alongside Ty Pierce as he shares about his Pacific Crest Trail hike. Ty walks us through how a resolution to spend 15 nights outdoors and to seek out adventure led him to quitting his corporate job, and ultimately...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we are thrilled to journey alongside Ty Pierce as he shares about his Pacific Crest Trail hike. Ty walks us through how a resolution to spend 15 nights outdoors and to seek out adventure led him to quitting his corporate job, and ultimately hitting a 2,650 mile trail spanning 3 states, Mexico, and Canada with an acquaintance who would turn into a best friend. Ty’s pilgrimage on the PCT was rigorous and pain filled. It also brought him profound joy, connections to many people he met on the trail, and the knowledge that he could overcome anything by putting one foot in front of the other. Ty’s ability to so willingly respond to the pull of his heart is a fabulous invitation to trust the soft animal of our body when it invites us into our own knowing. <br /><br />Cool stuff we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><a href="https://www.pcta.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.pcta.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Pacific Crest Trail </a></li><li><a href="https://www.history.com/shows/alone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alone - TV Show</a></li><li><a href="https://vimeo.com/294057514?turnstile=0.jEB1fcN8GXbEo21a_HUIja1Sgtb-2DbZdEexj3v59zpCN2ni24sTpfsj4wifYMCMgfnX0sItegcdaJOZAmXT5TxWWtlhg9dHzX2DEIJ7j6D0it2j1sEXw9aIh9R4CqOYHoUXSlOFqfNVaJPuT-dbqi9w5FvhGYax_W0if9JEHM668ZJUo4Dwujeyj1ptuOYLNDVXSvjqkmZIHB1BzOKBcb1HCWuu6HENOFTxEHywfMz46yx2jDGjhhaxeb4ukevWnR8vND0ENdpUN_jlRzS7p4Q6kJhvM7MTF2ZzbGK1aZvD3-NTIx4hNMgfxjYuNs8NZBM7LGVxBBOJpQV6AXX39q2i8jic7ZU_0ETN5FcGPU8WUAV3mE3EI8XU5ABEyrdVPo7FwxqrlDpClZu-o2G5XekV0FSA7IXRMBxbzwhpk5-AIfBEnbez_sL1kF2KbEIzxBsZ41qcGVtdamsCv1hAWIj5AANpdcl91vq7Hu4kVi2xWOBoeufUBv3-vtBOFgEmNhsUGptb-aljfL4u9WvaE-Myzv333VwRWfXzXfdncTof55-fe77vbxoDyXM4yXxqurRA-n41d3akMQ0hSu2VwW1Y3vHUGfQoafvV3XqazxMYzYkKPLcIYcqN1xddwb2nz3D8c9-N0X_RW1lSg5SeE9QSmLlSYlAg5PGwt2-2ErIKdkRr1DUiukyqBd8rylLeHnnlCDh_PO5LgoR4-o1R6wjcrPITNclHy30wDfo88WANqXpsGCGR_KT-BEYS7W0AzDufGfS13Nb4nXn1FaMo4XBS3-gIXoWz0jpoxggDfR4.ZazLXR4Z_lvXCo3YinwhtA.e48fcb56d27af804cbccde6ceb752588b3bb2b24c130ddb7eaeef83608e22eb3" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ty’s Pilgrimage Video</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Personal Journeys<br />07:33 The Decision to Hike the Pacific Crest Trail<br />14:44 Preparing for the Journey: Physical, Mental, and Spiritual Aspects<br />18:31 Surprises and Challenges on the Trail<br />22:06 Understanding the Pacific Crest Trail<br />31:32 Encounters with Nature and Other Hikers<br />34:47 Lessons Learned from the Pacific Crest Trail<br />38:10 Encouragement for Future Pilgrims<br />40:21 Balancing Adventure and Family Life<br />43:15 Final Thoughts on Kindness and Joy<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2948</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adventure,community,crest,experiences,hiking,journey,nature,outdoor,pacific,personal,pilgrimage,self-discovery,spirituality,trail</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Jenny's Gulf Coast Pilgrimage</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/jenny-s-gulf-coast-pilgrimage--62216677</link><description><![CDATA[Being folks who are typically more comfortable talking about things than actually doing the things, it was important to us to both take time this season to go on pilgrimages both big and small. In this episode Jenny reflects on her favorite place to pilgrimage, Galveston, TX. Jenny shares about what makes the Gulf Coast a sacred space for her and we invite folks into reflecting on their own sacred spaces. <br /><br />Going on your own pilgrimage soon and unsure of where to start? Here’s some gentle suggestions based on what helps Jenny get in the flow: <br /><ul><li>Fresh journal &amp; poetry books (Mary Oliver, Ada Limon, Ross Gay, John O’Donohue, Andrea Gibson, James Baldwin, Padraig O’Tuama are good places to start poetry wise).</li><li>The purpose of pilgrimage is to return to yourself. Your truest you. Questions that typically help me do that are<ul><li>Am I betraying myself in any way? </li><li>How can I better honor who I am at my core?</li><li>What is bringing me joy?</li><li>What people, places, things, am I being invited to learn from right now?</li><li>How am I playing a role in the liberation of all people, including myself? </li></ul></li><li>While spending time outside, create some nature related rituals for yourself.<ul><li>Feeling like you need a cleansing? Go for a moonlight swim.</li><li>Needing to be reborn? Bury yourself in the leaves or sand and emerge.</li><li>Needing to feel grounded? Go for a barefoot beach walk.</li><li>No judgment, in creating a nature based ritual. Just do what feels right and invitational to you.</li></ul></li></ul><b>There’s no wrong way to pilgrimage! Follow the spaces and places that call to your heart.</b><br /><br /><br />Sacred places, spaces and tunes we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://texasstateparks.reserveamerica.com/galveston-island-state-park/r/facilityDetails.do?contractCode=TX&amp;parkId=1200075" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Galveston State Park </a></li><li><a href="https://lakingsconfectionery.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">La Kings Candy Store </a></li><li><a href="https://www.shrimpnstuff.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shrimp N Stuff </a></li><li><a href="https://www.visitgalveston.com/directory/san-luis-pass/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">San Luis Pass</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0gA3XR5Sqw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summertime’s Close by Zach Bryan </a></li><li><a href="http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/mary_oliver/poems/15840#google_vignette" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kookaburras by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Personal Journey<br />03:18 Nature as a Pilgrimage<br />05:42 The Discomfort of Pilgrimage<br />10:14 Finding Beauty in the Journey<br />12:15 Listening to Our Wants and Needs<br />14:47 The Importance of Disruption<br />16:54 Reflection and Integration<br />18:36 Preparing for a Pilgrimage<br />22:32 Surprises and Lessons Learned<br />24:34 Defining Personal Perfection<br />27:40 The Healing Power of Place<br />29:50 Reconnecting with Our Draw<br />31:57 Practical Tips for Reflection<br />35:12 Closing Thoughts and Poetry<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62216677</guid><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62216677/jenny_s_pilgrimage.mp3" length="32297127" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Being folks who are typically more comfortable talking about things than actually doing the things, it was important to us to both take time this season to go on pilgrimages both big and small. In this episode Jenny reflects on her favorite place to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Being folks who are typically more comfortable talking about things than actually doing the things, it was important to us to both take time this season to go on pilgrimages both big and small. In this episode Jenny reflects on her favorite place to pilgrimage, Galveston, TX. Jenny shares about what makes the Gulf Coast a sacred space for her and we invite folks into reflecting on their own sacred spaces. <br /><br />Going on your own pilgrimage soon and unsure of where to start? Here’s some gentle suggestions based on what helps Jenny get in the flow: <br /><ul><li>Fresh journal &amp; poetry books (Mary Oliver, Ada Limon, Ross Gay, John O’Donohue, Andrea Gibson, James Baldwin, Padraig O’Tuama are good places to start poetry wise).</li><li>The purpose of pilgrimage is to return to yourself. Your truest you. Questions that typically help me do that are<ul><li>Am I betraying myself in any way? </li><li>How can I better honor who I am at my core?</li><li>What is bringing me joy?</li><li>What people, places, things, am I being invited to learn from right now?</li><li>How am I playing a role in the liberation of all people, including myself? </li></ul></li><li>While spending time outside, create some nature related rituals for yourself.<ul><li>Feeling like you need a cleansing? Go for a moonlight swim.</li><li>Needing to be reborn? Bury yourself in the leaves or sand and emerge.</li><li>Needing to feel grounded? Go for a barefoot beach walk.</li><li>No judgment, in creating a nature based ritual. Just do what feels right and invitational to you.</li></ul></li></ul><b>There’s no wrong way to pilgrimage! Follow the spaces and places that call to your heart.</b><br /><br /><br />Sacred places, spaces and tunes we mentioned this episode (or meant to anyways): <br /><ul><li><a href="https://texasstateparks.reserveamerica.com/galveston-island-state-park/r/facilityDetails.do?contractCode=TX&amp;parkId=1200075" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Galveston State Park </a></li><li><a href="https://lakingsconfectionery.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">La Kings Candy Store </a></li><li><a href="https://www.shrimpnstuff.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shrimp N Stuff </a></li><li><a href="https://www.visitgalveston.com/directory/san-luis-pass/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">San Luis Pass</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0gA3XR5Sqw" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Summertime’s Close by Zach Bryan </a></li><li><a href="http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/mary_oliver/poems/15840#google_vignette" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kookaburras by Mary Oliver </a></li></ul><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Personal Journey<br />03:18 Nature as a Pilgrimage<br />05:42 The Discomfort of Pilgrimage<br />10:14 Finding Beauty in the Journey<br />12:15 Listening to Our Wants and Needs<br />14:47 The Importance of Disruption<br />16:54 Reflection and Integration<br />18:36 Preparing for a Pilgrimage<br />22:32 Surprises and Lessons Learned<br />24:34 Defining Personal Perfection<br />27:40 The Healing Power of Place<br />29:50 Reconnecting with Our Draw<br />31:57 Practical Tips for Reflection<br />35:12 Closing Thoughts and Poetry<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2019</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>discomfort,galveston,gulfcoast,healing,listening,nature,perfection,pilgrimage,reflection</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage to self, and each other, with Kelly and Jess</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-to-self-and-each-other-with-kelly-and-jess--62184542</link><description><![CDATA[Krista Tippet says  “learning to love is the longest pilgrimage of our lives.” We are thrilled to welcome Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazzeal of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> to share with us about their pilgrimage of love.<br /><br />Kelly and Jess share with us about coming out, finding love with one another, and building a life that feels authentic and true to them, together. We love a good love story at Radical Sacred and Jess and Kelly's is one we can’t wait for you to hear! It can be scary to allow your life to unfold in new ways and we are grateful to Kelly and Jess for sharing their journey with us.<br /><br />We start this episode off with the gorgeous poem <a href="https://www.ekhartyoga.com/articles/philosophy/the-invitation-a-poem-by-oriah-mountain-dreamer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Invitation</a> by <a href="http://www.oriahmountaindreamer.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oriah Mountain Dreamer</a>.<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 The Invitation to Presence and Awareness<br />02:47 Exploring the Concept of Pilgrimage<br />05:52 Navigating Identity and Relationships<br />09:05 Choosing Authenticity Over Comfort<br />12:08 The Role of Community in Personal Journeys<br />14:49 Finding Guides and Role Models<br />18:00 Spiritual Growth and Transformation<br />21:00 Creating Safe Spaces for Healing<br />23:50 The Journey of Self-Acceptance<br />27:14 Reflections on Parenting and Growth<br />30:04 The Joy of Connection and Shared Experiences<br />32:55 The Importance of Vulnerability in Relationships<br />35:48 Building a Practice Based on Values<br />38:51 The Power of Music and Art in Healing<br />42:06 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />44:46 The Journey Continues: Looking Ahead<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62184542</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62184542/kelly_and_jess.mp3" length="52484965" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Krista Tippet says  “learning to love is the longest pilgrimage of our lives.” We are thrilled to welcome Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazzeal of https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/ to share with us about their pilgrimage of love.

Kelly and Jess...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Krista Tippet says  “learning to love is the longest pilgrimage of our lives.” We are thrilled to welcome Kelly Slaven and Jessica Brazzeal of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> to share with us about their pilgrimage of love.<br /><br />Kelly and Jess share with us about coming out, finding love with one another, and building a life that feels authentic and true to them, together. We love a good love story at Radical Sacred and Jess and Kelly's is one we can’t wait for you to hear! It can be scary to allow your life to unfold in new ways and we are grateful to Kelly and Jess for sharing their journey with us.<br /><br />We start this episode off with the gorgeous poem <a href="https://www.ekhartyoga.com/articles/philosophy/the-invitation-a-poem-by-oriah-mountain-dreamer" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Invitation</a> by <a href="http://www.oriahmountaindreamer.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oriah Mountain Dreamer</a>.<br /><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 The Invitation to Presence and Awareness<br />02:47 Exploring the Concept of Pilgrimage<br />05:52 Navigating Identity and Relationships<br />09:05 Choosing Authenticity Over Comfort<br />12:08 The Role of Community in Personal Journeys<br />14:49 Finding Guides and Role Models<br />18:00 Spiritual Growth and Transformation<br />21:00 Creating Safe Spaces for Healing<br />23:50 The Journey of Self-Acceptance<br />27:14 Reflections on Parenting and Growth<br />30:04 The Joy of Connection and Shared Experiences<br />32:55 The Importance of Vulnerability in Relationships<br />35:48 Building a Practice Based on Values<br />38:51 The Power of Music and Art in Healing<br />42:06 Embracing Change and New Beginnings<br />44:46 The Journey Continues: Looking Ahead<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3281</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>authenticity,community,growth,healing,identity,love,personal,pilgrimage,relationships,self-acceptance,spirituality,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Pilgrimage with Karen Couch - It's Your Camino</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/pilgrimage-with-karen-couch-it-s-your-camino--62098624</link><description><![CDATA[Phil and Jenny are thrilled today to speak with <a href="http://couch4adventures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Karen Couch</a> about the pilgrimage of walking the <a href="https://santiago-compostela.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Camino de Santiago</a>! Karen is an outdoor enthusiast, Enneagram 6,  and co-founder of <a href="http://elevateoutdooradventures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Elevate Outdoor Adventures</a>. Karen talks to us today about her passion for encouraging women in the outdoors and her experiences of being a pilgrim on the Camino de Santiago. Karen’s love for nature is rooted in her upbringing and her excitement and love for the journey is infectious. <br /><br />Here’s the cool stuff we mentioned today (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/entering-chaos/a-pilgrims-prayer-by-thomas-merton-2b8627fe8d4e" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Pilgrim's Prayer by: Thomas Merton</a></li><li><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/backpacking-with-the-saints-9780199927814?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Backpacking with the Saints by: Belden C. Lane</a></li></ul><br /><ul><li><a href="https://joycerupp.com/walk-in-a-relaxed-manner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Walk in a Relaxed Manner by: Joyce Rupp</a></li><li><a href="https://vault.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/life/muir_biography.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Muir </a></li><li><a href="http://annelamott" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anne Lamott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691305/52-ways-to-walk-by-annabel-abbs-streets/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">52 Ways to Walk by:Annabel Abbs Streets </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sacredstepspodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sacred Steps </a></li><li><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church of the Wild by: Victoria Loorz </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Friendship<br />02:57 Karen's Journey and Connection to Nature<br />06:05 Empowering Women in the Outdoors<br />08:54 Defining Pilgrimage: A Personal Journey<br />11:58 The Camino Experience: Expectations vs. Reality<br />15:04 Building Community on the Camino<br />18:02 Different Routes of the Camino<br />20:54 Preparing for the Camino<br />23:58 Lessons Learned from the Camino<br />27:03 The Importance of Pacing and Community<br />30:02 Living the Lessons of the Camino in Daily Life<br />33:00 Final Thoughts and Reflections<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62098624</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62098624/karen_couch.mp3" length="46807827" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Phil and Jenny are thrilled today to speak with http://couch4adventures about the pilgrimage of walking the https://santiago-compostela.net/! Karen is an outdoor enthusiast, Enneagram 6,  and co-founder of http://elevateoutdooradventures. Karen talks...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Phil and Jenny are thrilled today to speak with <a href="http://couch4adventures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Karen Couch</a> about the pilgrimage of walking the <a href="https://santiago-compostela.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Camino de Santiago</a>! Karen is an outdoor enthusiast, Enneagram 6,  and co-founder of <a href="http://elevateoutdooradventures" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Elevate Outdoor Adventures</a>. Karen talks to us today about her passion for encouraging women in the outdoors and her experiences of being a pilgrim on the Camino de Santiago. Karen’s love for nature is rooted in her upbringing and her excitement and love for the journey is infectious. <br /><br />Here’s the cool stuff we mentioned today (or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://medium.com/entering-chaos/a-pilgrims-prayer-by-thomas-merton-2b8627fe8d4e" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Pilgrim's Prayer by: Thomas Merton</a></li><li><a href="https://global.oup.com/academic/product/backpacking-with-the-saints-9780199927814?cc=us&amp;lang=en&amp;" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Backpacking with the Saints by: Belden C. Lane</a></li></ul><br /><ul><li><a href="https://joycerupp.com/walk-in-a-relaxed-manner/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Walk in a Relaxed Manner by: Joyce Rupp</a></li><li><a href="https://vault.sierraclub.org/john_muir_exhibit/life/muir_biography.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Muir </a></li><li><a href="http://annelamott" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Anne Lamott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/691305/52-ways-to-walk-by-annabel-abbs-streets/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">52 Ways to Walk by:Annabel Abbs Streets </a></li><li><a href="https://www.sacredstepspodcast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sacred Steps </a></li><li><a href="https://www.victorialoorz.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Church of the Wild by: Victoria Loorz </a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction to Pilgrimage and Friendship<br />02:57 Karen's Journey and Connection to Nature<br />06:05 Empowering Women in the Outdoors<br />08:54 Defining Pilgrimage: A Personal Journey<br />11:58 The Camino Experience: Expectations vs. Reality<br />15:04 Building Community on the Camino<br />18:02 Different Routes of the Camino<br />20:54 Preparing for the Camino<br />23:58 Lessons Learned from the Camino<br />27:03 The Importance of Pacing and Community<br />30:02 Living the Lessons of the Camino in Daily Life<br />33:00 Final Thoughts and Reflections<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2926</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adventure,camino,caminodesantiago,community,growth,journey,lessons,nature,outdoor,pilgrimage,spiritual,women</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Pilgrimage of Labyrinth with Rev. Cindy Serio</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-pilgrimage-of-labyrinth-with-rev-cindy-serio--62001957</link><description><![CDATA[This week we have their minds blown by Rev. Cindy Serio of <a href="https://www.m-sfm.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mosaic Spiritual Formation Ministry</a>! Rev. Cindy walks us through the ancient, circuitous path of labyrinths. Why we walk them, how we connect to self and others through this spiritual tool, and how we can begin to view this centuries old pathway as a womb. For as many people as there are on earth, so are there ways to walk the labyrinth. Explore the pilgrimage of labyrinths further by using the <a href="https://labyrinthlocator.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Labyrinth Locator</a> to find a route near you! <br /><br /><b>Resources Mentioned: </b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://gracecathedral.org/our-labyrinths/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace Cathedral </a>in San Franciso, CA.</li><li><a href="https://usingart.org/?srsltid=AfmBOooDSThS-VsNF-qLiPsEupaFbF6DER4dFi7OgnEctc96-cdHwkTu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Studios</a> in Fayetville, AR.</li><li><a href="https://www.cbsfa.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi</a> in Santa Fe, NM. </li><li><a href="https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/81/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chartres Cathedral</a> in Chartres, France. </li><li><a href="https://www.labyrinthedesfalaises.fr/en/home" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saint Jouin Bruneval Labyrinths</a> in Saint Jouin Bruneval, France. </li><li><a href="https://www.smu.edu/perkins/about/labyrinth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Ruben L.F. Habito Labyrinth</a> at SMU Perkins School of Theology, Dallas. </li><li><a href="https://veriditas.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Verditas Labyrinth Association </a></li><li><a href="https://ken-follett.com/books/the-pillars-of-the-earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pillars of Earth</a> by Ken Follet </li></ul><b>Sound Bites:</b><br /><ul><li>"Only one way in, only one way out, right? In the labyrinth."</li><li>"The labyrinth holds a tremendous amount of spiritual energy."</li><li>"The labyrinth meets you where you are."</li><li>"I had a reconciliation with my mother and I could breathe again because I knew then that my mother did see me."</li><li>"The labyrinth is a spiritual tool for some people and maybe not for others."</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>:<br />01:30 Introduction to Labyrinths and Guest Speaker<br />04:41 Exploring Labyrinths as Spiritual Tools<br />09:43 The Healing Power of Walking the Labyrinth<br />12:57 The Labyrinth as a Universal Language<br />16:57 Understanding the Difference: Labyrinth vs. Maze<br />24:57 Encountering the Black Madonna<br />26:04 Emotional Release and Reconciliation<br />29:48 Navigating the Labyrinth's Spiritual Tool<br />34:14 Preparing for a Labyrinth Walk<br />37:54 The Container of the Labyrinth<br />45:01 The Labyrinth Meets You Where You Are<br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62001957</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62001957/labyrinth_with_cindy.mp3" length="47892022" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we have their minds blown by Rev. Cindy Serio of https://www.m-sfm.org/! Rev. Cindy walks us through the ancient, circuitous path of labyrinths. Why we walk them, how we connect to self and others through this spiritual tool, and how we can...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we have their minds blown by Rev. Cindy Serio of <a href="https://www.m-sfm.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mosaic Spiritual Formation Ministry</a>! Rev. Cindy walks us through the ancient, circuitous path of labyrinths. Why we walk them, how we connect to self and others through this spiritual tool, and how we can begin to view this centuries old pathway as a womb. For as many people as there are on earth, so are there ways to walk the labyrinth. Explore the pilgrimage of labyrinths further by using the <a href="https://labyrinthlocator.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Labyrinth Locator</a> to find a route near you! <br /><br /><b>Resources Mentioned: </b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://gracecathedral.org/our-labyrinths/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grace Cathedral </a>in San Franciso, CA.</li><li><a href="https://usingart.org/?srsltid=AfmBOooDSThS-VsNF-qLiPsEupaFbF6DER4dFi7OgnEctc96-cdHwkTu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Terra Studios</a> in Fayetville, AR.</li><li><a href="https://www.cbsfa.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cathedral Basilica of St. Francis of Assisi</a> in Santa Fe, NM. </li><li><a href="https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/81/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chartres Cathedral</a> in Chartres, France. </li><li><a href="https://www.labyrinthedesfalaises.fr/en/home" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saint Jouin Bruneval Labyrinths</a> in Saint Jouin Bruneval, France. </li><li><a href="https://www.smu.edu/perkins/about/labyrinth" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Ruben L.F. Habito Labyrinth</a> at SMU Perkins School of Theology, Dallas. </li><li><a href="https://veriditas.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Verditas Labyrinth Association </a></li><li><a href="https://ken-follett.com/books/the-pillars-of-the-earth/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pillars of Earth</a> by Ken Follet </li></ul><b>Sound Bites:</b><br /><ul><li>"Only one way in, only one way out, right? In the labyrinth."</li><li>"The labyrinth holds a tremendous amount of spiritual energy."</li><li>"The labyrinth meets you where you are."</li><li>"I had a reconciliation with my mother and I could breathe again because I knew then that my mother did see me."</li><li>"The labyrinth is a spiritual tool for some people and maybe not for others."</li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>:<br />01:30 Introduction to Labyrinths and Guest Speaker<br />04:41 Exploring Labyrinths as Spiritual Tools<br />09:43 The Healing Power of Walking the Labyrinth<br />12:57 The Labyrinth as a Universal Language<br />16:57 Understanding the Difference: Labyrinth vs. Maze<br />24:57 Encountering the Black Madonna<br />26:04 Emotional Release and Reconciliation<br />29:48 Navigating the Labyrinth's Spiritual Tool<br />34:14 Preparing for a Labyrinth Walk<br />37:54 The Container of the Labyrinth<br />45:01 The Labyrinth Meets You Where You Are<br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2994</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>chartes,divinefeminine,explore,france,journey,labyrinth,mythology,pilgrim,pilgrimage,walk</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Rev. Todd Seelau's Pilgrimage With and Beyond the Church</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/rev-todd-seelau-s-pilgrimage-with-and-beyond-the-church--61325771</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.<br /><br />Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He emphasizes the significance of vulnerability and the role it plays in creating safe and brave spaces for meaningful conversations and generally the importance of intention, vulnerability, and creating sacred space. <br /><br /><b>Sound Bites</b><br /><ul><li>"A pilgrim is someone on the move."</li><li>"When you change power structures around, it changes everything."</li><li>"When you're a pilgrim, you're the one that needs more grace than the place and the people that you're visiting."</li></ul><b>References</b>:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9780859531061/Orlandos-Little-While-Friends-Wood-Audrey-0859531066/plp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Orlando's Little-While Friends</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/answering-god-the-psalms-as-tools-for-prayer_eugene-h-peterson/276297/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=us_dsa_general&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=475022632712&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw3P-2BhAEEiwA3yPhwIqS78dSO2VmSL9ejXmgnkruAA7xMGeBWhW192M2Ql1wlxdtL2fTvxoCy3cQAvD_BwE#edition=2336212&amp;idiq=4179899" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Answering God</a> by Eugene Peterson</li><li>Rev. Todd Seelau's Ministry <a href="https://www.x-ile.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">X-ILE</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction and Background<br />14:27 Defining Pilgrimage and Holy Ground<br />20:08 Deconstructed Ecclesiology and Being a Good Guest<br />27:23  The Power of Vulnerability in Ministry<br />30:57Companions on the Pilgrimage Journey<br />38:15 Mapping the Future of the Pilgrimage<br />41:25 The Influence of Upbringing and Church Community<br />48:52 Embracing New Perspectives and Taking Risks<br />53:08 Learning from Unexpected Teachers and Stories<br />56:15 The Power of Storytelling in Pilgrimage<br />01:03:55 Moving Forward: Next Steps in the Pilgrimage Journey<br />01:11:18 The Significance of the Body in Pilgrimage<br />01:13:46 Discovering the Gold Within: The Journey of Life<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61325771</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2024 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61325771/the_tao_of_todd.mp3" length="68529587" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode we have the honor of interviewing Rev. Todd Silau about pilgrimage and his unique approach to ministry. We discuss the concept of pilgrimage and how it relates to being on the move and being a stranger in a new place. We also explore the idea of deconstructed ecclesiology and the importance of being a good guest when engaging with different communities.<br /><br />Todd shares his experiences of being on the road with his band and how it has shaped his understanding of pilgrimage. He emphasizes the significance of vulnerability and the role it plays in creating safe and brave spaces for meaningful conversations and generally the importance of intention, vulnerability, and creating sacred space. <br /><br /><b>Sound Bites</b><br /><ul><li>"A pilgrim is someone on the move."</li><li>"When you change power structures around, it changes everything."</li><li>"When you're a pilgrim, you're the one that needs more grace than the place and the people that you're visiting."</li></ul><b>References</b>:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.abebooks.com/9780859531061/Orlandos-Little-While-Friends-Wood-Audrey-0859531066/plp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Orlando's Little-While Friends</a></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/answering-god-the-psalms-as-tools-for-prayer_eugene-h-peterson/276297/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=us_dsa_general&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=475022632712&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw3P-2BhAEEiwA3yPhwIqS78dSO2VmSL9ejXmgnkruAA7xMGeBWhW192M2Ql1wlxdtL2fTvxoCy3cQAvD_BwE#edition=2336212&amp;idiq=4179899" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Answering God</a> by Eugene Peterson</li><li>Rev. Todd Seelau's Ministry <a href="https://www.x-ile.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">X-ILE</a></li></ul><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction and Background<br />14:27 Defining Pilgrimage and Holy Ground<br />20:08 Deconstructed Ecclesiology and Being a Good Guest<br />27:23  The Power of Vulnerability in Ministry<br />30:57Companions on the Pilgrimage Journey<br />38:15 Mapping the Future of the Pilgrimage<br />41:25 The Influence of Upbringing and Church Community<br />48:52 Embracing New Perspectives and Taking Risks<br />53:08 Learning from Unexpected Teachers and Stories<br />56:15 The Power of Storytelling in Pilgrimage<br />01:03:55 Moving Forward: Next Steps in the Pilgrimage Journey<br />01:11:18 The Significance of the Body in Pilgrimage<br />01:13:46 Discovering the Gold Within: The Journey of Life<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4284</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>body,brave,companion,deconstruct,ecclesiology,grace,journey,pilgrim,piligrimage,sacred,space,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Power of Pilgrimage: An Introduction to Season Two's Theme</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-power-of-pilgrimage-an-introduction-to-season-two-s-theme--61239682</link><description><![CDATA[Welcome to Season Two of Radical Sacred. This season we'll be exploring pilgrimage.<br /><br />In this kickoff to Season Two, Phil Dieke reflects on his experience of going on a pilgrimage to Northern Ireland with Brian McLaren and Gareth Higgins. Jenny and Phil explore the concept of pilgrimage and its significance in personal and spiritual growth. They discusses the importance of journeying within oneself and the need for intentional exploration and self-discovery. As well as highlighting the role of community in pilgrimage and the value of engaging in conversations with people of different ideologies. The episode concludes with a discussion on the lack of cultural rites of passage in Western society and the potential for personal transformation through pilgrimage.<br /><br /><b>Takeaways</b><ul><li>Pilgrimage is not limited to physical journeys to holy places; it can also be an inner journey of self-discovery and exploration.</li><li>Intentionality is key in pilgrimage, whether it is through reading, sitting in silence, or engaging in meaningful conversations.</li><li>Pilgrimage can be a transformative experience that allows individuals to connect with themselves and others on a deeper level.</li><li>Western society lacks cultural rites of passage, which can hinder personal growth and self-discovery.</li><li>Pilgrimage requires stepping out of comfort zones and embracing discomfort in order to experience personal and spiritual growth.</li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction: The Invitation to Pilgrimage<br />04:10 The Significance of Pilgrimage in Personal and Spiritual Growth<br />10:37 The Difference Between Tourism and Pilgrimage<br />16:13 Tourist vs. Pilgrim: The Importance of Intentionality<br />21:40 The Absence of Cultural Rites of Passage in Western Society<br />28:28 Embracing Discomfort: The Path to Personal and Spiritual Growth<br />35:40 Conclusion: The Call to Pilgrimage<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61239682</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61239682/pilgrimage_season_opener.mp3" length="35870247" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Welcome to Season Two of Radical Sacred. This season we'll be exploring pilgrimage.

In this kickoff to Season Two, Phil Dieke reflects on his experience of going on a pilgrimage to Northern Ireland with Brian McLaren and Gareth Higgins. Jenny and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to Season Two of Radical Sacred. This season we'll be exploring pilgrimage.<br /><br />In this kickoff to Season Two, Phil Dieke reflects on his experience of going on a pilgrimage to Northern Ireland with Brian McLaren and Gareth Higgins. Jenny and Phil explore the concept of pilgrimage and its significance in personal and spiritual growth. They discusses the importance of journeying within oneself and the need for intentional exploration and self-discovery. As well as highlighting the role of community in pilgrimage and the value of engaging in conversations with people of different ideologies. The episode concludes with a discussion on the lack of cultural rites of passage in Western society and the potential for personal transformation through pilgrimage.<br /><br /><b>Takeaways</b><ul><li>Pilgrimage is not limited to physical journeys to holy places; it can also be an inner journey of self-discovery and exploration.</li><li>Intentionality is key in pilgrimage, whether it is through reading, sitting in silence, or engaging in meaningful conversations.</li><li>Pilgrimage can be a transformative experience that allows individuals to connect with themselves and others on a deeper level.</li><li>Western society lacks cultural rites of passage, which can hinder personal growth and self-discovery.</li><li>Pilgrimage requires stepping out of comfort zones and embracing discomfort in order to experience personal and spiritual growth.</li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction: The Invitation to Pilgrimage<br />04:10 The Significance of Pilgrimage in Personal and Spiritual Growth<br />10:37 The Difference Between Tourism and Pilgrimage<br />16:13 Tourist vs. Pilgrim: The Importance of Intentionality<br />21:40 The Absence of Cultural Rites of Passage in Western Society<br />28:28 Embracing Discomfort: The Path to Personal and Spiritual Growth<br />35:40 Conclusion: The Call to Pilgrimage<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2242</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,journey,pilgrimage,radical,rites,ritesofpassage,roots,sacred,selfdiscovery,spiritual,transformation</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Father's Day Special</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/father-s-day-special--60372382</link><description><![CDATA[On this week’s special episode Phil and Jenny share memories and stories about their dads. Father’s Day can be a mixed bag for so many of us for so many different reasons. If your day feels complicated or heavy with grief you are not alone! We invite you to find joy where it can be found, to grieve however you may need to, and to do one small thing today that makes you feel connected to yourself, to God, and to those you love. <br /><br />Connect with us on instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred?igsh=MXA2enZ0bm1vYmNraw==" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred </a>to let us know your favorite memory of your father or a father figure and to find out about our upcoming episodes and summer gatherings! <br /><br />Things we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.sound-well.co.uk/post/on-the-death-of-the-beloved-blessing-and-funeral-poem-by-john-odonohue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.sound-well.co.uk/post/on-the-death-of-the-beloved-blessing-and-funeral-poem-by-john-odonohue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Death of the Beloved  by: John O’Donohue</a></li><li><a href="http://mollystrongheart.blogspot.com/2022/06/john-odonohue-for-father.html?m=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For a Father  by: John O’Donohue </a></li><li><a href="https://texashighways.com/wildflowers/the-wildflowers-of-texas-our-top-20-field-guide/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Guide to Texas Wildflowers</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.michigan.org/city/saugatuck" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saugatuck, MI </a></li></ul><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60372382</guid><pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60372382/father_s_day_special.mp3" length="30224887" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this week’s special episode Phil and Jenny share memories and stories about their dads. Father’s Day can be a mixed bag for so many of us for so many different reasons. If your day feels complicated or heavy with grief you are not alone! We invite...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this week’s special episode Phil and Jenny share memories and stories about their dads. Father’s Day can be a mixed bag for so many of us for so many different reasons. If your day feels complicated or heavy with grief you are not alone! We invite you to find joy where it can be found, to grieve however you may need to, and to do one small thing today that makes you feel connected to yourself, to God, and to those you love. <br /><br />Connect with us on instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred?igsh=MXA2enZ0bm1vYmNraw==" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Sacred </a>to let us know your favorite memory of your father or a father figure and to find out about our upcoming episodes and summer gatherings! <br /><br />Things we mentioned in this episode (or meant to anyways): <a href="https://www.sound-well.co.uk/post/on-the-death-of-the-beloved-blessing-and-funeral-poem-by-john-odonohue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> </a><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.sound-well.co.uk/post/on-the-death-of-the-beloved-blessing-and-funeral-poem-by-john-odonohue" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Death of the Beloved  by: John O’Donohue</a></li><li><a href="http://mollystrongheart.blogspot.com/2022/06/john-odonohue-for-father.html?m=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For a Father  by: John O’Donohue </a></li><li><a href="https://texashighways.com/wildflowers/the-wildflowers-of-texas-our-top-20-field-guide/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Guide to Texas Wildflowers</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.michigan.org/city/saugatuck" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Saugatuck, MI </a></li></ul><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1890</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>connect,father,fathersday,grief,honor,johno'donohue,loss,remember,solidarity,stories,wildflowers</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A Time to Reflect...</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-time-to-reflect--60202700</link><description><![CDATA[Thank you for hanging with us for this first season! Phil and Jenny reflect on the last 25 episodes of Radical Sacred! Did you have a favorite episode or guest? We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram.</a><br /><br />As we look forward to having some time to rest and reflect this summer this episode features conversations about where we’re finding hope and inspiration in podcasts, music, and books. If you love very random playlists that include music from Zach Bryan to Outkast to Ani Difranco to Childish Gambino find Radical Sacred’s <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/radical-sacred/pl.u-XkD0vNrs443E7k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here.</a><br /><br />We will have some in person offerings for this summer in mid-late July in the DFW area. Potentially an evening on Purity Culture, a birding outing, and maybe something to do with grief. If you want to join us for any or all of these let us know! Stay tuned (especially to our Instagram) for more info on connection this summer. <br /><br /><b>Jenny (podcasts, music, books) <br />Podcasts</b>-<br /><ul><li>Falling back in love with<a href="https://robbell.com/podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> The Robcast</a> lately.</li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Poetry Unbound </a></li><li><a href="https://www.themythicmasculine.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mythic Masculine</a>-<a href="https://www.mosaicvoices.org/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living Myth</a></li><li><a href="https://manenough.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We are Man Enough </a></li></ul><br /><b>Music</b> <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.zachbryan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Zach Bryan</a> (ultimate sad cowboy music)</li><li><a href="https://www.maggierogers.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Maggie Rogers</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kaceymusgraves.com/#/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kacey Musgraves</a></li><li><a href="https://www.birdtalkermusic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Birdtalker</a><b></b></li></ul><b>Books</b><br /><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/658389/what-my-bones-know-by-stephanie-foo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What my bones know -Stephanie Foo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sonyareneetaylor.com/the-body-is-not-an-apology" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Body is not an Apology - Sonya Renee Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://www.elizabethplank.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For the Love of Men - Liz Plank </a></li><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/You-Could-Make-This-Place-Beautiful/Maggie-Smith/9781982185855" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">You Could Make this Place Beautiful by Maggie Smith </a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Phil (podcasts, music, books)</b><br /><b>Podcasts</b><br /><ul><li>Vox: <a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pivot</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/today-explained-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Today Explained,</a> <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Gray Area</a></li><li><a href="https://www.humanetech.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Your Undivided Attention - Center for Humane Technology </a></li><li><a href="https://texasimpact.org/weekly-witness-home/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Weekly Witness - Texas Impact</a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Being</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Ezra Klein Show</a></li><li><a href="https://www.humanetech.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Future Now - IFTF</a></li><li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/homebrewed-christianity-podcast/id276269040" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Homebrewed Christianity</a></li><li><a href="https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Bible for Normal People</a></li><li><a href="https://www.religionandjustice.org/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Religion and Justice - Wendland Cook Program at Vandy</a></li><li><a href="https://scienceandnonduality.com/podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SAND</a></li></ul><b>Music</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.taylorswift.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Taylor Swift</a></li><li><a href="https://www.melaniemartinezmusic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melanie Martinez</a></li><li><a href="https://www.dualipa.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dua Lipa</a></li><li><a href="https://www.beyonce.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Beyonce </a></li><li><a href="https://donaldgloverpresents.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Childish Gambino </a></li></ul><b>Books</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780316300162/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson</a></li><li><a href="https://debrarienstra.com/refugia-faith/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Refugia Faith by Debra Rienstra</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Power-Glory-Evangelicals-Extremism/dp/006322688X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory by Tim Alberta</a></li><li><a href="https://www.warwicks.com/book/9781350081932" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Black Transhuman Liberation Theology by Philip Butler</a></li><li><a href="https://iamblacklit.com/products/all-about-love-new-visions" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">All about Love by bell hooks</a></li><li>John O’Donohue from time to time</li></ul><br />Chapters:<br />00:00 Season Reflections and Literary Engagements<br />04:45 Exploring Embodiment and Self-Acceptance<br />10:47 Nature, Masculinity, and Podcast Recommendations<br />27:00 Podcasting, Guest Interviews, and Reflections<br />30:14 Aging, Adaptation, and the Pursuit of Wisdom<br />32:31 Gratitude and Engagement<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60202700</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 10:15:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60202700/ep_25_consuming.mp3" length="39165447" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Thank you for hanging with us for this first season! Phil and Jenny reflect on the last 25 episodes of Radical Sacred! Did you have a favorite episode or guest? We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us on https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Thank you for hanging with us for this first season! Phil and Jenny reflect on the last 25 episodes of Radical Sacred! Did you have a favorite episode or guest? We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram.</a><br /><br />As we look forward to having some time to rest and reflect this summer this episode features conversations about where we’re finding hope and inspiration in podcasts, music, and books. If you love very random playlists that include music from Zach Bryan to Outkast to Ani Difranco to Childish Gambino find Radical Sacred’s <a href="https://music.apple.com/us/playlist/radical-sacred/pl.u-XkD0vNrs443E7k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here.</a><br /><br />We will have some in person offerings for this summer in mid-late July in the DFW area. Potentially an evening on Purity Culture, a birding outing, and maybe something to do with grief. If you want to join us for any or all of these let us know! Stay tuned (especially to our Instagram) for more info on connection this summer. <br /><br /><b>Jenny (podcasts, music, books) <br />Podcasts</b>-<br /><ul><li>Falling back in love with<a href="https://robbell.com/podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> The Robcast</a> lately.</li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/series/poetry-unbound/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Poetry Unbound </a></li><li><a href="https://www.themythicmasculine.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mythic Masculine</a>-<a href="https://www.mosaicvoices.org/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Living Myth</a></li><li><a href="https://manenough.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">We are Man Enough </a></li></ul><br /><b>Music</b> <br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.zachbryan.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Zach Bryan</a> (ultimate sad cowboy music)</li><li><a href="https://www.maggierogers.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Maggie Rogers</a></li><li><a href="https://www.kaceymusgraves.com/#/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kacey Musgraves</a></li><li><a href="https://www.birdtalkermusic.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Birdtalker</a><b></b></li></ul><b>Books</b><br /><br /><br /><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/658389/what-my-bones-know-by-stephanie-foo/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What my bones know -Stephanie Foo</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sonyareneetaylor.com/the-body-is-not-an-apology" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Body is not an Apology - Sonya Renee Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://www.elizabethplank.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">For the Love of Men - Liz Plank </a></li><li><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/You-Could-Make-This-Place-Beautiful/Maggie-Smith/9781982185855" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">You Could Make this Place Beautiful by Maggie Smith </a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Phil (podcasts, music, books)</b><br /><b>Podcasts</b><br /><ul><li>Vox: <a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/pivot" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pivot</a>, <a href="https://www.vox.com/today-explained-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Today Explained,</a> <a href="https://www.vox.com/the-gray-area" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Gray Area</a></li><li><a href="https://www.humanetech.com/podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Your Undivided Attention - Center for Humane Technology </a></li><li><a href="https://texasimpact.org/weekly-witness-home/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Weekly Witness - Texas Impact</a></li><li><a href="https://onbeing.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Being</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/ezra-klein-podcast" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Ezra Klein Show</a></li><li><a...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2448</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>art,books,finale,holy,imagodei,music,podcast,podcasts,radical,radicalsacred,reflection,sacred,summer,theology</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Transformation over Information: A Discussion on Palestine, Israel, Curiosity, and Concern</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/transformation-over-information-a-discussion-on-palestine-israel-curiosity-and-concern--60122556</link><description><![CDATA[There is so much information circling around what is taking place in Palestine/Israel. This episode is not a history lesson on the founding of Israel, the displacement of Palestinians, nor the current military occupation taking place in Gaza. There have been many books, documentaries, podcasts, etc created to do that. This episode is an invitation to join us in our journey as we wrestle to make sense of geo-politics and how religion is so often used to divide us, rather than bring us together.<br /><br />As stated in the episode, neither of us are experts in terms of the Middle East. We debated bringing experts into the conversation but decided to focus on our own experiences and what has led us to our current concerns, our own going curiosity, and ultimately how we can continue to value the radical sacred in every human being, and all creation.<br /><br />Resources that have been helpful to us in our journey:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z69vUN79CXA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Science and Non Duality with Gabor Mate and Angela Davis</a></li><li><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781627798556/thehundredyearswaronpalestine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The 100 Year War on Palestine</a> by Rashid Khalidi<b><br /></b></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/a-palestinian-theology-of-liberation-the-bible-justice-and-the-palestine-israel-conflict_naim-stifan-ateek/17603559/item/24278675/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=pmax_new_books&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw6auyBhDzARIsALIo6v_j5RRwti5b98pfDzqk_xeGoGlTJxnV-RhAOFdEPYEI5Qz51eG126caAtB_EALw_wcB#idiq=24278675&amp;edition=18540666" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Palestinian Theology of Liberation</a> by Naim Stefan Atik</li><li><a href="http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/blood-brothers-repackaged-edition/230086" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Blood Brothers</a> by Elias Chacour and David Hazard</li><li><a href="https://www.christianbook.com/rapture-exposed-message-book-revelation-ebook/barbara-rossing/9780465004966/pd/91961EB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Rapture Exposed</a> by Barbara Rossing</li><li><a href="https://www.israelismfilm.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Israelism</a></li><li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Al Jazeera</a></li><li><a href="https://crimjust.rutgers.edu/people/faculty-directory/details/61-faculty/30-faculty/620-erakat-noura" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Noura Erakat</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@office_76842/criticism-of-israel-and-antisemitism-how-to-tell-where-one-ends-and-the-other-begins-8035798f5b7c" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Criticism of Israel and Antisemitism: How to tell where one ends and the other begins</a> </li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Setting the Context<br />05:49 Reading from Richard Rohr and Setting the Intention<br />09:23 Phil's Journey and Experiences in Israel and Palestine<br />27:04 Repression of Journalists and Activists<br />30:05 The Misuse of Religion as a Tool for Power and Violence<br />35:02 Interpreting Religious Texts with Love and Kindness<br />42:11 Seeking Diverse Sources for a Nuanced Understanding<br />46:20 Embracing the Shared Humanity of All People]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60122556</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60122556/transformation_over_information.mp3" length="51768604" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>There is so much information circling around what is taking place in Palestine/Israel. This episode is not a history lesson on the founding of Israel, the displacement of Palestinians, nor the current military occupation taking place in Gaza. There...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[There is so much information circling around what is taking place in Palestine/Israel. This episode is not a history lesson on the founding of Israel, the displacement of Palestinians, nor the current military occupation taking place in Gaza. There have been many books, documentaries, podcasts, etc created to do that. This episode is an invitation to join us in our journey as we wrestle to make sense of geo-politics and how religion is so often used to divide us, rather than bring us together.<br /><br />As stated in the episode, neither of us are experts in terms of the Middle East. We debated bringing experts into the conversation but decided to focus on our own experiences and what has led us to our current concerns, our own going curiosity, and ultimately how we can continue to value the radical sacred in every human being, and all creation.<br /><br />Resources that have been helpful to us in our journey:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z69vUN79CXA" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Science and Non Duality with Gabor Mate and Angela Davis</a></li><li><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781627798556/thehundredyearswaronpalestine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The 100 Year War on Palestine</a> by Rashid Khalidi<b><br /></b></li><li><a href="https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/a-palestinian-theology-of-liberation-the-bible-justice-and-the-palestine-israel-conflict_naim-stifan-ateek/17603559/item/24278675/?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=pmax_new_books&amp;utm_adgroup=&amp;utm_term=&amp;utm_content=&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=Cj0KCQjw6auyBhDzARIsALIo6v_j5RRwti5b98pfDzqk_xeGoGlTJxnV-RhAOFdEPYEI5Qz51eG126caAtB_EALw_wcB#idiq=24278675&amp;edition=18540666" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Palestinian Theology of Liberation</a> by Naim Stefan Atik</li><li><a href="http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/blood-brothers-repackaged-edition/230086" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Blood Brothers</a> by Elias Chacour and David Hazard</li><li><a href="https://www.christianbook.com/rapture-exposed-message-book-revelation-ebook/barbara-rossing/9780465004966/pd/91961EB" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Rapture Exposed</a> by Barbara Rossing</li><li><a href="https://www.israelismfilm.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Israelism</a></li><li><a href="https://www.aljazeera.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Al Jazeera</a></li><li><a href="https://crimjust.rutgers.edu/people/faculty-directory/details/61-faculty/30-faculty/620-erakat-noura" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Noura Erakat</a></li><li><a href="https://medium.com/@office_76842/criticism-of-israel-and-antisemitism-how-to-tell-where-one-ends-and-the-other-begins-8035798f5b7c" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Criticism of Israel and Antisemitism: How to tell where one ends and the other begins</a> </li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Setting the Context<br />05:49 Reading from Richard Rohr and Setting the Intention<br />09:23 Phil's Journey and Experiences in Israel and Palestine<br />27:04 Repression of Journalists and Activists<br />30:05 The Misuse of Religion as a Tool for Power and Violence<br />35:02 Interpreting Religious Texts with Love and Kindness<br />42:11 Seeking Diverse Sources for a Nuanced Understanding<br />46:20 Embracing the Shared Humanity of All People]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3236</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>christianity,christianzionism,conflict,empathy,humanity,islam,israel,judaism,kindness,love,palestine,religion,transformation,violence,zionism</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Exploring the Complexities of Grief with Hillary Owen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/exploring-the-complexities-of-grief-with-hillary-owen--60038123</link><description><![CDATA["The only time you can do grief wrong is when you judge yourself for grieving."<br /><br />Note: this episode about grief is heavy and it is long. If you are not in a space to address your grief, maybe save this one for later.<br /><br />Shout out to <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/team" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing</a> for joining us in this personal conversation all about grief. This episode opens with a gorgeous poem by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/adalimonwriter/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ada Limon</a> - from her book <a href="https://milkweed.org/book/bright-dead-things" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bright Dead Things</a> - <a href="https://waxwingmag.org/items/25.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tossing Around the Ashes</a><b><a href="https://waxwingmag.org/items/25.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a></b>Hillary, Phil, and Jenny have all had different dealings with grief over the years. We’ve all lost and all responded differently.<br /><br />How can we learn from one another and from remaining open about our grief?<br />What might help us collectively and individually in the midst of deep grief?<br />Does our Enneagram number play into how we might handle our grief?<br /><br />Join us as we delve into what makes us human, our capacity for deep love and deep grief. <br /><br />Grief Resources (Things we mentioned, or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://katebowler.com/books/everything-happens-for-a-reason-and-other-lies-ive-loved/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Everything Happens for a Reason (and other lies I’ve loved) by: Kate Bowler </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Closure-Ambiguous-Pandemic-Change/dp/1324016817" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Myth of Closure by: Pauline Boss</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Live-Die/dp/161180924X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How We Live is How We Die</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/When-Things-Fall-Apart-Difficult/dp/1611803438" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When Things Fall Apart</a>  by: Pema Chodron </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crying-Mart-Memoir-Michelle-Zauner/dp/0525657746" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Crying In H Mart</a> by: Michelle Zauner </li><li><a href="https://www.bookpeople.com/book/9781324016816" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Grief and Grieving</a> by Elizabeth Kubler Ross and David Kessler</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breathing-Under-Water-Spirituality-Twelve/dp/1616361573" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Breathing Underwate</a>r by: Richard Rohr</li><li> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12451520/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">It’s Ok to Not Be Ok<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://suzannestabile.com/mp3s/grieving" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grieving and the Enneagram</a> by: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/suzannestabile/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Suzanne Stabile </a></li></ul><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Guest<br />01:50 Ada Lamone Poem<br />04:09 Resistance to Talking About Grief<br />07:47 Unresolved Grief and Funeral Experiences<br />09:30 Different Coping Strategies for Grief<br />21:07 Grief as an Antidote to Trauma<br />26:41 Differentiating Trauma and Grief<br />32:08 Engaging with Feelings in Grief<br />36:36 The Importance of Relational Buffering<br />38:26 Individual Approaches to Healthful Grieving<br />40:23 The Need for Supportive Relationships in Grief<br />43:04 Different Approaches to Grief: Thinking, Feeling, and Doing<br />45:27 The Power of Human Connection in the Healing Process<br />47:13 Finding Your Own Path to Healing<br />50:40 The Role of Spiritual Direction and Therapy in Grief<br />52:28 Creating Space for Grief in Society and Faith Communities<br />56:07 Addressing Barriers to Grief Support<br />01:00:38 Embracing Grief as a Part of Human Experience<br />01:03:14 The Practice of Mindfulness in Grief<br />01:05:42 Weird and Unique Ways of Processing Grief<br />01:10:41 Closing Thoughts on Grief and the Importance of Connection<br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60038123</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60038123/grief_with_hillary_owen.mp3" length="69102617" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>"The only time you can do grief wrong is when you judge yourself for grieving."

Note: this episode about grief is heavy and it is long. If you are not in a space to address your grief, maybe save this one for later.

Shout out...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA["The only time you can do grief wrong is when you judge yourself for grieving."<br /><br />Note: this episode about grief is heavy and it is long. If you are not in a space to address your grief, maybe save this one for later.<br /><br />Shout out to <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/team" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hillary Owen of Driftwood Healing</a> for joining us in this personal conversation all about grief. This episode opens with a gorgeous poem by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/adalimonwriter/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ada Limon</a> - from her book <a href="https://milkweed.org/book/bright-dead-things" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bright Dead Things</a> - <a href="https://waxwingmag.org/items/25.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tossing Around the Ashes</a><b><a href="https://waxwingmag.org/items/25.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a></b>Hillary, Phil, and Jenny have all had different dealings with grief over the years. We’ve all lost and all responded differently.<br /><br />How can we learn from one another and from remaining open about our grief?<br />What might help us collectively and individually in the midst of deep grief?<br />Does our Enneagram number play into how we might handle our grief?<br /><br />Join us as we delve into what makes us human, our capacity for deep love and deep grief. <br /><br />Grief Resources (Things we mentioned, or meant to anyways):<br /><ul><li><a href="https://katebowler.com/books/everything-happens-for-a-reason-and-other-lies-ive-loved/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Everything Happens for a Reason (and other lies I’ve loved) by: Kate Bowler </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Closure-Ambiguous-Pandemic-Change/dp/1324016817" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Myth of Closure by: Pauline Boss</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-We-Live-Die/dp/161180924X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">How We Live is How We Die</a> &amp; <a href="https://www.amazon.com/When-Things-Fall-Apart-Difficult/dp/1611803438" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">When Things Fall Apart</a>  by: Pema Chodron </li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crying-Mart-Memoir-Michelle-Zauner/dp/0525657746" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Crying In H Mart</a> by: Michelle Zauner </li><li><a href="https://www.bookpeople.com/book/9781324016816" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On Grief and Grieving</a> by Elizabeth Kubler Ross and David Kessler</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Breathing-Under-Water-Spirituality-Twelve/dp/1616361573" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Breathing Underwate</a>r by: Richard Rohr</li><li> <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12451520/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">It’s Ok to Not Be Ok<br /></a></li><li><a href="https://suzannestabile.com/mp3s/grieving" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grieving and the Enneagram</a> by: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/suzannestabile/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Suzanne Stabile </a></li></ul><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Guest<br />01:50 Ada Lamone Poem<br />04:09 Resistance to Talking About Grief<br />07:47 Unresolved Grief and Funeral Experiences<br />09:30 Different Coping Strategies for Grief<br />21:07 Grief as an Antidote to Trauma<br />26:41 Differentiating Trauma and Grief<br />32:08 Engaging with Feelings in Grief<br />36:36 The Importance of Relational Buffering<br />38:26 Individual Approaches to Healthful Grieving<br />40:23 The Need for Supportive Relationships in Grief<br />43:04 Different Approaches to Grief: Thinking, Feeling, and Doing<br />45:27 The Power of Human Connection in the Healing Process<br />47:13 Finding Your Own Path to Healing<br />50:40 The Role of Spiritual Direction and Therapy in Grief<br />52:28 Creating Space for Grief in Society and Faith...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4319</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,connection,coping,grief,healing,holdingspace,mindfulness,radical,radicalsacred,relationalbuffering,relationships,sacred,selfawareness,space,spiritualdirection,strategies,support,therapy,trauma</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Purity Culture... Again (Because it's that bad!)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/purity-culture-again-because-it-s-that-bad--59910232</link><description><![CDATA[We’re back with Jessica Brazzeal of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> for her third visit! We heard from so many of you after our episode on purity culture we knew had to expand the conversation! If you missed our previous episode on purity culture start <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-sacred/id1722132249" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here.</a> <br /><br />We discuss how purity culture affected us individually and collectively, the orgasm gap that exists in the evangelical world, resources and more. We also dive into the etymology of the word pastor. What is at the root of the word and how we can tell the difference between someone whose words and behaviors are actually pastoral versus a bully with a pulpit.  We expand more on Josh Howerton (of <a href="https://lakepointe.church/start-here/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lakepointe Church</a> in Rockwall, TX) and male pastors like him who use fear, shame, and blame to control. If you’ve been affected by purity culture and want to connect, find us on I<a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">nstagram</a>. <br />Resources<ul><li><a href="https://sexwithemily.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sex with Emily </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ericasmitheac.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erica Smith Sex Ed </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1476762090" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come as You Are</a> by: Emily Nagoski </li><li>Esther perel - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/where-should-we-begin-with-esther-perel/id1237931798" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">where should we begin</a></li><li><a href="https://drlauraeanderson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. laura anderson</a></li></ul>00:00 Introduction<br />00:43 The Impact of Purity Culture<br />04:00 Personal Experiences with Purity Culture<br />09:47 The Role of Pastors in Purity Culture<br />12:31 The Etymology of 'Pastor'<br />16:08 Platforming Abusive Leaders<br />21:09 Patriarchal Norms in Religion<br />24:01 Challenging Patriarchal Structures<br />24:32 Creating Safe Spaces for Conversations<br />31:47 Shifting from Judgment to Curiosity<br />39:31 The Power of Authentic Friendships<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59910232</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59910232/riverside_radical_sacred_episode_may_8_2024_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="22137226" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We’re back with Jessica Brazzeal of https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/ for her third visit! We heard from so many of you after our episode on purity culture we knew had to expand the conversation! If you missed our previous episode on purity...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We’re back with Jessica Brazzeal of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> for her third visit! We heard from so many of you after our episode on purity culture we knew had to expand the conversation! If you missed our previous episode on purity culture start <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-sacred/id1722132249" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here.</a> <br /><br />We discuss how purity culture affected us individually and collectively, the orgasm gap that exists in the evangelical world, resources and more. We also dive into the etymology of the word pastor. What is at the root of the word and how we can tell the difference between someone whose words and behaviors are actually pastoral versus a bully with a pulpit.  We expand more on Josh Howerton (of <a href="https://lakepointe.church/start-here/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lakepointe Church</a> in Rockwall, TX) and male pastors like him who use fear, shame, and blame to control. If you’ve been affected by purity culture and want to connect, find us on I<a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">nstagram</a>. <br />Resources<ul><li><a href="https://sexwithemily.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sex with Emily </a></li><li><a href="https://www.ericasmitheac.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Erica Smith Sex Ed </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Come-You-Are-Surprising-Transform/dp/1476762090" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Come as You Are</a> by: Emily Nagoski </li><li>Esther perel - <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/where-should-we-begin-with-esther-perel/id1237931798" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">where should we begin</a></li><li><a href="https://drlauraeanderson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. laura anderson</a></li></ul>00:00 Introduction<br />00:43 The Impact of Purity Culture<br />04:00 Personal Experiences with Purity Culture<br />09:47 The Role of Pastors in Purity Culture<br />12:31 The Etymology of 'Pastor'<br />16:08 Platforming Abusive Leaders<br />21:09 Patriarchal Norms in Religion<br />24:01 Challenging Patriarchal Structures<br />24:32 Creating Safe Spaces for Conversations<br />31:47 Shifting from Judgment to Curiosity<br />39:31 The Power of Authentic Friendships<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2768</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>abuse,accountability,church,curiosity,feminine,growth,harm,pastor,patriarchy,pleasure,power,powerdynamics,purity,purityculture,relationships,safespace,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Attachment Styles with Hillary Owen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/attachment-styles-with-hillary-owen--59735433</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil are joined by Hillary Owen to discuss attachment theory and attachment styles. Hillary, a licensed mental health professional, shares her expertise on the topic and explains the four attachment styles: secure, disorganized, anxious, and avoidant. They also explore the concept of attachment-focused EMDR therapy and how it can help individuals heal from attachment wounds. <br /><br />In this conversation, Hillary Owen discusses the importance of understanding attachment styles and how they impact our relationships and parenting. She emphasizes the need for self-awareness and self-compassion in order to create healthier and more secure connections. Hillary also explores the intersection of attachment theory and spirituality, highlighting the sacredness of doing inner work and showing up for ourselves. She provides practical steps for individuals to begin their own attachment journey, including reading about attachment styles and practicing mindfulness. Hillary concludes by sharing where she is finding inspiration and, of course, her favorite bird.<br /><br />The conversation around imagination and the brain will likely blow your mind (pun intended). Let us know who your safe character/person is.<br /><br />Find out more about Hillary and her work at <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a>.<br /><br />Resources:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Attached-Science-Adult-Attachment-YouFind/dp/1585429139/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.W2Hu0CFeu4eu-473CFxL4rZ_nhhNWQAQeC4z8sU4cFZ78g10b0Cq19t0hUkW4CDamYd8Th0uJq4BUWMxcm4641uNzHZ87UhH-f2C82AH2GCWaPokduKp7UK4TfU2u5KBleQLQUqYNVKIsrzXXmNXiUYcxSSVicR6G7CAxzS-KP_Osa261KgoNRpzJjI-m2uMFGB786qMWyWRrlAc5lq_yCZIr9Z58wjp0xMICwrUlbI.UindOwq8Sw_oJzGjzCFSZBIj8bsOMKqX3Kexby8FFLM&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;hvadid=174268218624&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9026915&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=13910704856243391906&amp;hvtargid=kwd-200657275946&amp;hydadcr=22537_9636736&amp;keywords=attached+by+levine&amp;qid=1714495906&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How it Can Help You Find - and Keep - Love</a> by Amir Levine.</li><li>Life Kit Quiz "<a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/02/09/1079587715/whats-your-attachment-style-quiz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What's your attachment style</a>?"</li></ul><br /><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />09:06 Introduction to Attachment Theory and Attachment Styles<br />25:00 Attachment-Focused EMDR Therapy<br />31:27 Imagination and Healing<br />47:38 Practical Steps for Embarking on an Attachment Journey<br />59:12 The Power of Human Connection and Storytelling<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59735433</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59735433/attachement_styles_with_hillary_own.mp3" length="61437655" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode Jenny and Phil are joined by Hillary Owen to discuss attachment theory and attachment styles. Hillary, a licensed mental health professional, shares her expertise on the topic and explains the four attachment styles: secure,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil are joined by Hillary Owen to discuss attachment theory and attachment styles. Hillary, a licensed mental health professional, shares her expertise on the topic and explains the four attachment styles: secure, disorganized, anxious, and avoidant. They also explore the concept of attachment-focused EMDR therapy and how it can help individuals heal from attachment wounds. <br /><br />In this conversation, Hillary Owen discusses the importance of understanding attachment styles and how they impact our relationships and parenting. She emphasizes the need for self-awareness and self-compassion in order to create healthier and more secure connections. Hillary also explores the intersection of attachment theory and spirituality, highlighting the sacredness of doing inner work and showing up for ourselves. She provides practical steps for individuals to begin their own attachment journey, including reading about attachment styles and practicing mindfulness. Hillary concludes by sharing where she is finding inspiration and, of course, her favorite bird.<br /><br />The conversation around imagination and the brain will likely blow your mind (pun intended). Let us know who your safe character/person is.<br /><br />Find out more about Hillary and her work at <a href="https://www.driftwood-healing.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Driftwood Healing</a>.<br /><br />Resources:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Attached-Science-Adult-Attachment-YouFind/dp/1585429139/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.W2Hu0CFeu4eu-473CFxL4rZ_nhhNWQAQeC4z8sU4cFZ78g10b0Cq19t0hUkW4CDamYd8Th0uJq4BUWMxcm4641uNzHZ87UhH-f2C82AH2GCWaPokduKp7UK4TfU2u5KBleQLQUqYNVKIsrzXXmNXiUYcxSSVicR6G7CAxzS-KP_Osa261KgoNRpzJjI-m2uMFGB786qMWyWRrlAc5lq_yCZIr9Z58wjp0xMICwrUlbI.UindOwq8Sw_oJzGjzCFSZBIj8bsOMKqX3Kexby8FFLM&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;hvadid=174268218624&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9026915&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=13910704856243391906&amp;hvtargid=kwd-200657275946&amp;hydadcr=22537_9636736&amp;keywords=attached+by+levine&amp;qid=1714495906&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How it Can Help You Find - and Keep - Love</a> by Amir Levine.</li><li>Life Kit Quiz "<a href="https://www.npr.org/2022/02/09/1079587715/whats-your-attachment-style-quiz" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">What's your attachment style</a>?"</li></ul><br /><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />09:06 Introduction to Attachment Theory and Attachment Styles<br />25:00 Attachment-Focused EMDR Therapy<br />31:27 Imagination and Healing<br />47:38 Practical Steps for Embarking on an Attachment Journey<br />59:12 The Power of Human Connection and Storytelling<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3840</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>attachment,attachmentstyles,attachmenttheory,driftwoodhealing,emdr,growth,healing,imagination,mindfulness,parenting,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,selfawareness,selfcompassion,spirituality,storytelling,therapy</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Queer Theology and UMC General Conference with Jenny Bates</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/queer-theology-and-umc-general-conference-with-jenny-bates--59621372</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Radical Sacred, Jenny and Phil are joined by Jenny Bates a United Methodist in North Texas who is finishing up graduate school at Brite Divinity and recently was approved for Commissioning as a clergyperson in the North Texas Conference of the United Methodist Church.<br /><br />They discuss how Jenny used the Radical Sacred episode on the Sacred Masculine as a resource for a pub theology she hosted, queer theology, and the United Methodist Church General Conference that officially started yesterday.<br /><br />Throughout the episode, Jenny emphasizes the need for inclusivity and the importance of holding space for different perspectives and experiences in the United Methodist Church and beyond. She shares her journey of exploring her own gender identity and the support she receives from her chosen queer family.<br /><br />In the episode she states, "Queer theology showed me that I do have sacred roots," what has helped you identify your sacred roots?<br /><br />Resources Mentioned in the Episode:<br /><ul><li>Our previous episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-sacred/id1722132249?i=1000647380614" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sacred Masculine</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Queering-Wesley-Church-Keegan-Osinski/dp/1725254042" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Queering Wesley, Queering the Church</a> by Keegan Orsinski</li><li>The R<a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/documents/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">evised Social Principles</a> of the United Methodist Church</li><li>The <a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/content/supplemental-adca-now-available-online" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advanced Daily Christian Advocate</a> for the UMC General Conference</li></ul>Also, if you are a United Methodist looking to follow what is happening at General Conference follow these accounts:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.umqcc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Queer Clergy Cacus</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/mariadixon?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Maria Dixon Hall</a></li><li><a href="https://www.threads.net/@umjeremy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Jeremy Smith</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/scottatnip" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scott Atnip</a></li></ul><br /><br /><br />Chapters:<br />00:00 Introduction Jenny Bates and her use of Pub Theology<br />07:55 Positive Masculinity and Biblical Examples<br />34:00 Exploring Sacredness through Queer Theology<br />51:58 Jenny's Journey of Gender Exploration<br />59:09 The Importance of Community in the Journey<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59621372</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59621372/queer_theology_with_jenny_bates.mp3" length="57309472" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Radical Sacred, Jenny and Phil are joined by Jenny Bates a United Methodist in North Texas who is finishing up graduate school at Brite Divinity and recently was approved for Commissioning as a clergyperson in the North Texas...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Radical Sacred, Jenny and Phil are joined by Jenny Bates a United Methodist in North Texas who is finishing up graduate school at Brite Divinity and recently was approved for Commissioning as a clergyperson in the North Texas Conference of the United Methodist Church.<br /><br />They discuss how Jenny used the Radical Sacred episode on the Sacred Masculine as a resource for a pub theology she hosted, queer theology, and the United Methodist Church General Conference that officially started yesterday.<br /><br />Throughout the episode, Jenny emphasizes the need for inclusivity and the importance of holding space for different perspectives and experiences in the United Methodist Church and beyond. She shares her journey of exploring her own gender identity and the support she receives from her chosen queer family.<br /><br />In the episode she states, "Queer theology showed me that I do have sacred roots," what has helped you identify your sacred roots?<br /><br />Resources Mentioned in the Episode:<br /><ul><li>Our previous episode on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/radical-sacred/id1722132249?i=1000647380614" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Sacred Masculine</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Queering-Wesley-Church-Keegan-Osinski/dp/1725254042" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Queering Wesley, Queering the Church</a> by Keegan Orsinski</li><li>The R<a href="https://www.umcjustice.org/documents/124" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">evised Social Principles</a> of the United Methodist Church</li><li>The <a href="https://www.resourceumc.org/en/content/supplemental-adca-now-available-online" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Advanced Daily Christian Advocate</a> for the UMC General Conference</li></ul>Also, if you are a United Methodist looking to follow what is happening at General Conference follow these accounts:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.umqcc.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Queer Clergy Cacus</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/mariadixon?lang=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Maria Dixon Hall</a></li><li><a href="https://www.threads.net/@umjeremy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rev. Jeremy Smith</a></li><li><a href="https://twitter.com/scottatnip" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Scott Atnip</a></li></ul><br /><br /><br />Chapters:<br />00:00 Introduction Jenny Bates and her use of Pub Theology<br />07:55 Positive Masculinity and Biblical Examples<br />34:00 Exploring Sacredness through Queer Theology<br />51:58 Jenny's Journey of Gender Exploration<br />59:09 The Importance of Community in the Journey<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3582</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>biblical,boaz,church,deborah,faith,genderidentity,genderjourney,generalconference,generalconferenceumc,hope,inclusivechurch,inclusivity,jesus,masculinity,pubtheology,queer,queertheology,sacredmasculine,sacredroots,unitedmethodist</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Transcend and Include with Marcus Jones</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/transcend-and-include-with-marcus-jones--59495275</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode Phil and Jenny are joined by Marcus Jones, Director of the Wesley Foundation at the University of Texas at Arlington. After referencing this concept in many episodes, Phil and Jenny invited Marcus to discuss this idea of Transcend and Include. They reflect on their own spiritual journeys and the various faith traditions they have been a part of, while also emphasizing the importance of deep spirituality and spiritual disciplines in their lives. Marcus shares how he incorporates grace into his growth process and how he engages in conversational scripture reading to challenge and dismantle preconceived notions. They also discuss the future of the church and the need for lay-driven ministry. <br /><br />References from this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankofa" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sankofa</a></li><li>I<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_theory_(Ken_Wilber)#:~:text=Integral%20theory%20aims%20to%20be,from%20the%20broader%20academic%20community." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ntegral Theory</a> by Ken Wilber</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Darkness-Spiritual-Thriving-Turbulent/dp/1501177699" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dancing in the Darkness: Spiritual Lessons for Thriving in Turbulent Times</a> by Otis Moss III</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Black-Liturgies-Prayers-Meditations-Staying/dp/0593593642/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11U43T00GIQYH&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QlbRT97MmJqNhz5lpS1KbhkF9nwb03ZrYsJTQbIDAvtiuQ56tPnrl-x_7Q1f1VjqMYOGosDHVQIv72b9VaDIgBW-e0rI4mvYRb6_5_Ul8qUlWFQYI_k4SdI4sdP_FieAQriuDTItBNYMpUmH7F2dOcGW103rWCD3eNrqbo8QkClgi3_75M4xaZQhW0yMabTXnM-1kx7RiDQEqrj2EwrusZjLN_5iYKljzFK9nD2oWVs.18y5atuE07R8t2qFop0nUyc4q9Ln6Up_ru6O5LGMAKI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=black+liturgies&amp;qid=1713307079&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=black+liturgies%2Cstripbooks%2C89&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Black Liturgies: Prayers, Poems, and Meditations for Staying Human</a> by Cole Arthur Riley</li><li>Hope is Here!: Spiritual Practices for Pursuing Justice and Beloved Community by Luther E. Smith</li></ul>You can find Marcus:<br /><ul><li>Marcu's blog <a href="https://informedscholar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Informed Scholar</a></li><li>on social @marcus.m.jones</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />00:27 Transcendent Include<br />04:24 Faith Background and Spiritual Formation<br />06:37 Youth Ministry and Sneakers as a Ministry<br />09:21 Transition to United Methodist Church<br />10:20 Progressive Theological Development<br />12:03 Themes of Social Justice and Missionary Baptist Background<br />12:25 Moving from Conservative Theology to Liberal, Progressive, and Centered<br />15:40 Clothing Ideas and Concepts in Grace<br />17:46 Learning from the Past and Mentors<br />20:00 Purity Culture and Guilt<br />20:27 Moving Past Shame<br />20:45 Prayer and Spiritual Disciplines<br />25:39 Reading Scripture Formationally<br />30:57 The Future of the Church<br />33:16 Expanding Worldview<br />36:32 Eliminating Poverty<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59495275</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59495275/transcend_and_include.mp3" length="39532839" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode Phil and Jenny are joined by Marcus Jones, Director of the Wesley Foundation at the University of Texas at Arlington. After referencing this concept in many episodes, Phil and Jenny invited Marcus to discuss this idea of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode Phil and Jenny are joined by Marcus Jones, Director of the Wesley Foundation at the University of Texas at Arlington. After referencing this concept in many episodes, Phil and Jenny invited Marcus to discuss this idea of Transcend and Include. They reflect on their own spiritual journeys and the various faith traditions they have been a part of, while also emphasizing the importance of deep spirituality and spiritual disciplines in their lives. Marcus shares how he incorporates grace into his growth process and how he engages in conversational scripture reading to challenge and dismantle preconceived notions. They also discuss the future of the church and the need for lay-driven ministry. <br /><br />References from this episode:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankofa" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sankofa</a></li><li>I<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integral_theory_(Ken_Wilber)#:~:text=Integral%20theory%20aims%20to%20be,from%20the%20broader%20academic%20community." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ntegral Theory</a> by Ken Wilber</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Darkness-Spiritual-Thriving-Turbulent/dp/1501177699" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dancing in the Darkness: Spiritual Lessons for Thriving in Turbulent Times</a> by Otis Moss III</li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Black-Liturgies-Prayers-Meditations-Staying/dp/0593593642/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11U43T00GIQYH&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.QlbRT97MmJqNhz5lpS1KbhkF9nwb03ZrYsJTQbIDAvtiuQ56tPnrl-x_7Q1f1VjqMYOGosDHVQIv72b9VaDIgBW-e0rI4mvYRb6_5_Ul8qUlWFQYI_k4SdI4sdP_FieAQriuDTItBNYMpUmH7F2dOcGW103rWCD3eNrqbo8QkClgi3_75M4xaZQhW0yMabTXnM-1kx7RiDQEqrj2EwrusZjLN_5iYKljzFK9nD2oWVs.18y5atuE07R8t2qFop0nUyc4q9Ln6Up_ru6O5LGMAKI&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=black+liturgies&amp;qid=1713307079&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=black+liturgies%2Cstripbooks%2C89&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Black Liturgies: Prayers, Poems, and Meditations for Staying Human</a> by Cole Arthur Riley</li><li>Hope is Here!: Spiritual Practices for Pursuing Justice and Beloved Community by Luther E. Smith</li></ul>You can find Marcus:<br /><ul><li>Marcu's blog <a href="https://informedscholar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Informed Scholar</a></li><li>on social @marcus.m.jones</li></ul><b>Chapters</b><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />00:27 Transcendent Include<br />04:24 Faith Background and Spiritual Formation<br />06:37 Youth Ministry and Sneakers as a Ministry<br />09:21 Transition to United Methodist Church<br />10:20 Progressive Theological Development<br />12:03 Themes of Social Justice and Missionary Baptist Background<br />12:25 Moving from Conservative Theology to Liberal, Progressive, and Centered<br />15:40 Clothing Ideas and Concepts in Grace<br />17:46 Learning from the Past and Mentors<br />20:00 Purity Culture and Guilt<br />20:27 Moving Past Shame<br />20:45 Prayer and Spiritual Disciplines<br />25:39 Reading Scripture Formationally<br />30:57 The Future of the Church<br />33:16 Expanding Worldview<br />36:32 Eliminating Poverty<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2471</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>evolution,evolve,faith,grace,include,integral,integraltheory,maturate,mature,progressivetheology,purityculture,spiritualdisciplines,spiritualevolution,theology,transcend,transcendandinclude,worldview</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Tattooing as Sacred Practice with Stephanie Adelina</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/tattooing-as-sacred-practice-with-stephanie-adelina--59380238</link><description><![CDATA[What do a pastor, a spiritual director, and a tattoo artist have in common? On the surface, perhaps not a ton. And yet, as we explore the topic of Tattooing and Presence we realize that when done well- pastors, spiritual directors, and tattoo artists all give their presence to people  in order to create a deeper connection between each other and self. At their best, all should be people that create spaces that are safe and healing. <br /><br />In this episode Phil and Jenny visit with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stephanieadelinatattoos/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Stephanie Adelina</a>, the founder of <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pegasustattoostudios/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus Tattoos</a> (a Queer tattoo collective) located in Elmwood, in Dallas TX. <br /><br /><br />This conversation discusses tattooing as an art form. Including:<br /><ul><li>Stephanie's ability to provide a safe space for all the people while also creating gorgeous artwork on their bodies.</li><li>Tattooing as a somatic and healing practice and Pegasus' hope for the future.</li><li>Living creatively and authentically.</li><li>Forging your own path when the industry you're in isn't all that it could be.</li><li>Pegasus' connection to <a href="https://www.dallasisd.org/bookert" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Booker T Washington</a>, the performing arts school in Dallas.</li><li>Stephanie shares about being an <a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-7/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram 7! </a></li></ul><br /><br />If you are interested in a meaningful tattoo experience that is rooted in connection and care contact the good folks at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pegasustattoostudios/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus!</a><br /><br />For more resources on tattooing check out:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2023/06/01/for-the-colonized-body-tattoos-are-reclamation" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tattooing as Reclamation of the Body</a> by Gabbes Torres</li><li><a href="https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/theres-a-new-tattoo-shop-in-oak-cliff-run-by-a-feminist-collective-11858163" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Article by the Observer</a> about Pegasus </li></ul><br /><br />Have you gotten a tattoo that helped you connect back to your own sacred roots? We'd love to hear about it! Connect with us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>. ]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59380238</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2024 10:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59380238/riverside_radical_sacred_episode_apr_10_2024_002_radical_sacred.mp3" length="29186525" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What do a pastor, a spiritual director, and a tattoo artist have in common? On the surface, perhaps not a ton. And yet, as we explore the topic of Tattooing and Presence we realize that when done well- pastors, spiritual directors, and tattoo artists...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What do a pastor, a spiritual director, and a tattoo artist have in common? On the surface, perhaps not a ton. And yet, as we explore the topic of Tattooing and Presence we realize that when done well- pastors, spiritual directors, and tattoo artists all give their presence to people  in order to create a deeper connection between each other and self. At their best, all should be people that create spaces that are safe and healing. <br /><br />In this episode Phil and Jenny visit with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/stephanieadelinatattoos/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Stephanie Adelina</a>, the founder of <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pegasustattoostudios/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus Tattoos</a> (a Queer tattoo collective) located in Elmwood, in Dallas TX. <br /><br /><br />This conversation discusses tattooing as an art form. Including:<br /><ul><li>Stephanie's ability to provide a safe space for all the people while also creating gorgeous artwork on their bodies.</li><li>Tattooing as a somatic and healing practice and Pegasus' hope for the future.</li><li>Living creatively and authentically.</li><li>Forging your own path when the industry you're in isn't all that it could be.</li><li>Pegasus' connection to <a href="https://www.dallasisd.org/bookert" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Booker T Washington</a>, the performing arts school in Dallas.</li><li>Stephanie shares about being an <a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-7/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram 7! </a></li></ul><br /><br />If you are interested in a meaningful tattoo experience that is rooted in connection and care contact the good folks at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pegasustattoostudios/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pegasus!</a><br /><br />For more resources on tattooing check out:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2023/06/01/for-the-colonized-body-tattoos-are-reclamation" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tattooing as Reclamation of the Body</a> by Gabbes Torres</li><li><a href="https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/theres-a-new-tattoo-shop-in-oak-cliff-run-by-a-feminist-collective-11858163" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Article by the Observer</a> about Pegasus </li></ul><br /><br />Have you gotten a tattoo that helped you connect back to your own sacred roots? We'd love to hear about it! Connect with us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>. ]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3649</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>accountability,artist,challenges,connection,creative,healing,inclusive,influence,journey,meaningful,power,self-expression,standardization,tattoo,tattooing,tattoos,therapeutic,transformative,trust,vulnerability</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Purity Culture with Jessica Brazeal</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/purity-culture-with-jessica-brazeal--59271488</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil welcome Jessica Brazeal back to the podcast as the first time repeat guest. Jessica joins the conversation to discuss a sermon that recently went viral from a megachurch pastor in Rockwall, TX. Jenny, being from Rockwall, was deeply frustrated by the misogynistic words of this sermon and immediately emailed Phil and Jessica to set up a time to discuss. <br /><br />In the episode they discuss what purity culture is, how it impacted their adolescence, how it continues to harm people today, and so often results in abusive situations. They talk about purity culture from the perspective of being parents, but also parents who are healing from the harms of this movement, and their hopes for a better approach to a healthy sexuality for the next generation. As said in the episode, "Healthy conversations about sexuality should be free from shame and fear."<br /><br />Be aware this conversation does discuss sexual situations and talks of abuse.<br /><br />Jessica reference's Nadia Bolz-Weber's book <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/247945/shameless-by-nadia-bolz-weber/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shameless: A Case For Not Feeling Bad About Feeling Good (About Sex)</a> <br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 - (Re)Introducing Jessica Brazeal<br />01:02- Reacting to a Harmful Sermon<br />03:40 - The Destructive Nature of Purity Culture<br />08:20 - The Objectification of Women in Purity Culture<br />09:28 - The Link Between Purity Culture and Abuse<br />11:42 - Explaining Purity Culture<br />14:38 - The Need for Healthy Conversations<br />16:14 - Navigating Sexuality as Parents<br />21:46 - The Isolating and Ostracizing Nature of Purity Culture<br />22:22 - The Long-lasting Impact of Shame and Trauma<br />23:18 - Power Dynamics and Control in Purity Culture<br />24:07 - The Importance of Consent and Agency<br />24:38 - Therapy as a Path to Healing<br />26:53 - Promoting Healthy Conversations about Sexuality<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59271488</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59271488/purity_culture_with_jessica_brazeal.mp3" length="37804559" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode Jenny and Phil welcome Jessica Brazeal back to the podcast as the first time repeat guest. Jessica joins the conversation to discuss a sermon that recently went viral from a megachurch pastor in Rockwall, TX. Jenny, being from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil welcome Jessica Brazeal back to the podcast as the first time repeat guest. Jessica joins the conversation to discuss a sermon that recently went viral from a megachurch pastor in Rockwall, TX. Jenny, being from Rockwall, was deeply frustrated by the misogynistic words of this sermon and immediately emailed Phil and Jessica to set up a time to discuss. <br /><br />In the episode they discuss what purity culture is, how it impacted their adolescence, how it continues to harm people today, and so often results in abusive situations. They talk about purity culture from the perspective of being parents, but also parents who are healing from the harms of this movement, and their hopes for a better approach to a healthy sexuality for the next generation. As said in the episode, "Healthy conversations about sexuality should be free from shame and fear."<br /><br />Be aware this conversation does discuss sexual situations and talks of abuse.<br /><br />Jessica reference's Nadia Bolz-Weber's book <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/247945/shameless-by-nadia-bolz-weber/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Shameless: A Case For Not Feeling Bad About Feeling Good (About Sex)</a> <br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 - (Re)Introducing Jessica Brazeal<br />01:02- Reacting to a Harmful Sermon<br />03:40 - The Destructive Nature of Purity Culture<br />08:20 - The Objectification of Women in Purity Culture<br />09:28 - The Link Between Purity Culture and Abuse<br />11:42 - Explaining Purity Culture<br />14:38 - The Need for Healthy Conversations<br />16:14 - Navigating Sexuality as Parents<br />21:46 - The Isolating and Ostracizing Nature of Purity Culture<br />22:22 - The Long-lasting Impact of Shame and Trauma<br />23:18 - Power Dynamics and Control in Purity Culture<br />24:07 - The Importance of Consent and Agency<br />24:38 - Therapy as a Path to Healing<br />26:53 - Promoting Healthy Conversations about Sexuality<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2363</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>abstinence,abuse,agency,church,consent,healing,patriarchy,power,powerdynamics,purity,purityculture,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,sex,sexuality,shame,spirituality,toxicmasculinity,trauma</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Enneagram - Dependent Stance (1's, 2's, and 6's)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/enneagram-dependent-stance-1-s-2-s-and-6-s--59189065</link><description><![CDATA[On our third and final Enneagram episode Phil and Jenny chat all about the Dependent Stance.<br /><br />1s (The Perfectionist), 2s (The Helper), and 6s (The Skeptics/Loyalist) make up this present oriented stance. The Dependent Stance moves towards others (people, institutions, religious ideals etc.) to know what to do, how to feel, and how to move in the world. <br /><br />Those in the Dependent Stance are community builders. They walk into the room and they see all the people and they know what to do to help them. They are genuinely the peoplle that make the world go round. Interpersonal relationships matter a lot to the Dependent Stance and if you are in a relationship with one of these folks then it really matters to help them facilitate a healthy relationship with self. Thinking is the center of intelligence that dropped out in childhood for this stance and their work will revolve around learning to honor their own thoughts and ideas. <br />As we wrap up our Enneagram episodes, consider what you can learn from each stance we’ve covered? <br /><br /><ul><li>The Dependent Stance is the only stance that is inherently present in the current moment. What does this look like in real time for them?</li><li>For those in the Dependent Stance, how might you come to more enjoy your own company?</li><li>How would you spend a day all to yourself, just for your own enjoyment?</li><li>Caring for self can look like a lot of different things. What does it look like to provide yourself real and lasting self care for folks in this stance?</li><li>How can we who love those in the Dependent Stance bring up their repressed center?</li></ul>We’re available to teach the Enneagram to your church, non profit, etc! Email us at <a href="https://gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">radicalsacredpod@gmail.com</a> for more information. <br /><br />Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Enneagram Dependent Stance<br />01:26 <b>Understanding Type On</b>e: The Perfectionist<br />05:02 Stress and Security Movements for Type One<br />06:16 Self-Compassion and Kindness for Type One<br />09:37 <b>Understanding Type Two</b>: The Helper<br />20:11 Self-Avoidance and Boundaries for Type Two<br />21:10 Stress and Security Movements for Type Two<br />23:37 Recognizing and Meeting the Needs of Type Two<br />25:00 Self-Care and Individuality for Type Two<br />26:36 The Pressure on Southern Women<br />28:08 Misidentification of Twos and Sixes<br />29:44 <b>Understanding Type Six:</b> The Loyalist<br />30:11 Conflicted Thinking of Sixes<br />32:14 The Doomsdayers - Preparedness of Sixes<br />33:10 Loyalty and Community Orientation of Sixes<br />35:17 Self-Care and Loyalty to Oneself<br />40:29 Phobic and Counterphobic Sixes<br />42:47 The Healing Message for Sixes<br />45:19 The Importance of Self-Care for Sixes<br />46:05 The Work for a More Compassionate World<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59189065</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2024 10:16:05 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59189065/dependant_stance.mp3" length="45002234" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On our third and final Enneagram episode Phil and Jenny chat all about the Dependent Stance.

1s (The Perfectionist), 2s (The Helper), and 6s (The Skeptics/Loyalist) make up this present oriented stance. The Dependent Stance moves towards others...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On our third and final Enneagram episode Phil and Jenny chat all about the Dependent Stance.<br /><br />1s (The Perfectionist), 2s (The Helper), and 6s (The Skeptics/Loyalist) make up this present oriented stance. The Dependent Stance moves towards others (people, institutions, religious ideals etc.) to know what to do, how to feel, and how to move in the world. <br /><br />Those in the Dependent Stance are community builders. They walk into the room and they see all the people and they know what to do to help them. They are genuinely the peoplle that make the world go round. Interpersonal relationships matter a lot to the Dependent Stance and if you are in a relationship with one of these folks then it really matters to help them facilitate a healthy relationship with self. Thinking is the center of intelligence that dropped out in childhood for this stance and their work will revolve around learning to honor their own thoughts and ideas. <br />As we wrap up our Enneagram episodes, consider what you can learn from each stance we’ve covered? <br /><br /><ul><li>The Dependent Stance is the only stance that is inherently present in the current moment. What does this look like in real time for them?</li><li>For those in the Dependent Stance, how might you come to more enjoy your own company?</li><li>How would you spend a day all to yourself, just for your own enjoyment?</li><li>Caring for self can look like a lot of different things. What does it look like to provide yourself real and lasting self care for folks in this stance?</li><li>How can we who love those in the Dependent Stance bring up their repressed center?</li></ul>We’re available to teach the Enneagram to your church, non profit, etc! Email us at <a href="https://gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">radicalsacredpod@gmail.com</a> for more information. <br /><br />Chapters00:00 Introduction to the Enneagram Dependent Stance<br />01:26 <b>Understanding Type On</b>e: The Perfectionist<br />05:02 Stress and Security Movements for Type One<br />06:16 Self-Compassion and Kindness for Type One<br />09:37 <b>Understanding Type Two</b>: The Helper<br />20:11 Self-Avoidance and Boundaries for Type Two<br />21:10 Stress and Security Movements for Type Two<br />23:37 Recognizing and Meeting the Needs of Type Two<br />25:00 Self-Care and Individuality for Type Two<br />26:36 The Pressure on Southern Women<br />28:08 Misidentification of Twos and Sixes<br />29:44 <b>Understanding Type Six:</b> The Loyalist<br />30:11 Conflicted Thinking of Sixes<br />32:14 The Doomsdayers - Preparedness of Sixes<br />33:10 Loyalty and Community Orientation of Sixes<br />35:17 Self-Care and Loyalty to Oneself<br />40:29 Phobic and Counterphobic Sixes<br />42:47 The Healing Message for Sixes<br />45:19 The Importance of Self-Care for Sixes<br />46:05 The Work for a More Compassionate World<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2813</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>compassion,dependent,dependentstance,enneagram,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,selfawareness,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Enneagram - Aggressive Stance (3s, 7s, 8s)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/enneagram-aggressive-stance-3s-7s-8s--59100763</link><description><![CDATA[In week two of their three part enneagram series, Jenny and Phil cover numbers in The Aggressive Stance. Comprised of 8s (gut triad), 7s (head triad), and 3s (heart triad) this stance is future oriented. <br /><br />If 4s, 5s, and 9s are the philosophers of the Enneagram, 8s, 7s, and 3s are the architects. These numbers are self motivating and self propelled. They dream and vision cast and invite others to do the same. Phil and Jenny cover the gifts and challenges associated with this stance, including how gender plays out in the ways aggressively stanced men and women are treated very differently in the world. <br /><br />We’d love to hear from you! If you’re an aggressive stance number, how does that play into how you move through the world?<br /><ul><li>What does it feel like to try to bring up feelings?</li><li>If you spent time observing yourself last week, what came up for you?</li><li>Why is it important to learn to sink into the present moment as those who are typically future oriented?</li><li>How might you try to engage with your repressed center? </li></ul>Having trouble identifying your number? Sit down with a trusted friend or family member and ask them to name a few of your best qualities. Then ask them to name a few of the areas they see you struggling in. What do these observations bring up for you? <br /><br />Jenny and Phil mention the following (or meant to mention the following, anyways): <br />-<a href="https://www.consciousenneagram.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Conscious Enneagram</a> - Abi Robins<a href="https://www.consciousenneagram.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-<a href="https://www.chichiagorom.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram for Black Liberation</a><a href="https://www.chichiagorom.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-For Funsies: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rudeassenneagram/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rude Ass Enneagram</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/rudeassenneagram/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-Sleeping at Last: <a href="https://www.sleepingatlast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram Album</a><br /><br />Chapters:<br />00:00 Introduction to the Aggressive Stance<br />03:18 Introduction to Eights - The Challenger<br />08:21Gender Differences and Unfair Treatment<br />09:59 Overcoming Stereotypes and Embracing Strength<br />12:35 Contemplative Practices for Aggressive Numbers<br />15:26 Healing Message for Eights: You Are Enough<br />15:57 Introduction to Sevens: The Enthusiast<br />16:17 Characteristics of Sevens<br />23:21 The Fun and Dark Sides of Sevens<br />26:04 Healing Message for Sevens: You Are Enough<br />29:57 Introduction to Threes - The Achiever<br />30:39 Defining Success for Threes<br />35:26The Dallas Vibe and Threes<br />37:41 Recognizing the Value of Aggressive Numbers<br />38:53 Encouraging and Supporting Aggressive Numbers<br />46:29 Becoming a Fuller Version of Ourselves<br />47:39The Purpose of the Enneagram and Radical Sacred<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59100763</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59100763/aggressive_final.mp3" length="47028918" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In week two of their three part enneagram series, Jenny and Phil cover numbers in The Aggressive Stance. Comprised of 8s (gut triad), 7s (head triad), and 3s (heart triad) this stance is future oriented. 

If 4s, 5s, and 9s are the philosophers of the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In week two of their three part enneagram series, Jenny and Phil cover numbers in The Aggressive Stance. Comprised of 8s (gut triad), 7s (head triad), and 3s (heart triad) this stance is future oriented. <br /><br />If 4s, 5s, and 9s are the philosophers of the Enneagram, 8s, 7s, and 3s are the architects. These numbers are self motivating and self propelled. They dream and vision cast and invite others to do the same. Phil and Jenny cover the gifts and challenges associated with this stance, including how gender plays out in the ways aggressively stanced men and women are treated very differently in the world. <br /><br />We’d love to hear from you! If you’re an aggressive stance number, how does that play into how you move through the world?<br /><ul><li>What does it feel like to try to bring up feelings?</li><li>If you spent time observing yourself last week, what came up for you?</li><li>Why is it important to learn to sink into the present moment as those who are typically future oriented?</li><li>How might you try to engage with your repressed center? </li></ul>Having trouble identifying your number? Sit down with a trusted friend or family member and ask them to name a few of your best qualities. Then ask them to name a few of the areas they see you struggling in. What do these observations bring up for you? <br /><br />Jenny and Phil mention the following (or meant to mention the following, anyways): <br />-<a href="https://www.consciousenneagram.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Conscious Enneagram</a> - Abi Robins<a href="https://www.consciousenneagram.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-<a href="https://www.chichiagorom.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram for Black Liberation</a><a href="https://www.chichiagorom.com/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-For Funsies: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rudeassenneagram/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rude Ass Enneagram</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/rudeassenneagram/?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><br /><br /></a>-Sleeping at Last: <a href="https://www.sleepingatlast.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Enneagram Album</a><br /><br />Chapters:<br />00:00 Introduction to the Aggressive Stance<br />03:18 Introduction to Eights - The Challenger<br />08:21Gender Differences and Unfair Treatment<br />09:59 Overcoming Stereotypes and Embracing Strength<br />12:35 Contemplative Practices for Aggressive Numbers<br />15:26 Healing Message for Eights: You Are Enough<br />15:57 Introduction to Sevens: The Enthusiast<br />16:17 Characteristics of Sevens<br />23:21 The Fun and Dark Sides of Sevens<br />26:04 Healing Message for Sevens: You Are Enough<br />29:57 Introduction to Threes - The Achiever<br />30:39 Defining Success for Threes<br />35:26The Dallas Vibe and Threes<br />37:41 Recognizing the Value of Aggressive Numbers<br />38:53 Encouraging and Supporting Aggressive Numbers<br />46:29 Becoming a Fuller Version of Ourselves<br />47:39The Purpose of the Enneagram and Radical Sacred<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2940</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>achiever,aggressive,aggressivestance,challenger,compassion,enneagram,enthusiast,holy,radical,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Enneagram Introduction and Withdrawing Numbers (aka Jenny and Phil)</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/enneagram-introduction-and-withdrawing-numbers-aka-jenny-and-phil--59015431</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode Jenny and Phil dive into The Enneagram! They talk about the three centers of intelligence and<b> </b>the importance that head, heart, and gut have in determining how we take in information and interpret the world.<br /><br />Phil and Jenny share all about the Withdrawing stance.<br />4s (Jenny), 5s, and 9s (Phil) withdraw into themselves in order to know what to do. <br />Withdrawing numbers are past oriented, meaning we sometimes struggle to do/say things in real time.<b> <br /><br /></b>They also talk about the gifts and struggles of 4s, 5s, and 9s and the way that learning a system like The Enneagram helps people have more grace and space for ourselves and for the world around us.<br /><br />When we realize that we all have different motivations, desires, struggles, and ways of being it opens the door to connection and grace instead of judgment. And who doesn’t need more connection and grace? <br /><br />If you’re new to The Enneagram and trying to figure out your number:<br /><ol><li>Gently observe yourself this week. As you’re going about your business, notice how you respond to stress and the unexpected. When life gets a little wild is your first response to think, to feel, or to do?</li><li>As you narrow down your first response you will also arrive at whether you are in the head, the heart, or the gut triad. Once you arrive at your triad, consider your orientation to time. Are you always dreaming up what could be in the future? Are you fully aware of the present moment? Or are you consumed with the past? Notice where you spend a lot of your time mentally.</li><li>Next week we’ll dive into The Aggressive Stance, which encompasses 3s, 7s, and 8s. We’ll also have more helpful tips on figuring out your number. </li></ol>We mentioned the following this week: <ul><li><a href="https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The work of Suzanne Stabile</a></li><li>Richard Rohr’s <a href="https://store.cac.org/collections/books/products/the-enneagram-a-christian-perspective" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram a Christian Perspective</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram Institute</a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction of the Enneagram Series<br />07:10 Centers of Intelligence<br />10:39 Withdrawing Stance and Orientation to Time<br />13:45 Enneagram Type 9: The Peacemaker<br />22:03 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 9<br />39:08 The Dynamic Nature of the Enneagram<br />42:36 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 4 <br />51:37 The Difference Between Fours and Nines<br />53:25 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 5 <br />58:36 Resources for Learning More About the Enneagram<br />01:11:31 The Importance of Being Gracious and Compassionate<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59015431</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2024 10:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59015431/enneagram_withdrawing_numbers.mp3" length="70929914" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode Jenny and Phil dive into The Enneagram! They talk about the three centers of intelligence and the importance that head, heart, and gut have in determining how we take in information and interpret the world.

Phil and Jenny share all...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode Jenny and Phil dive into The Enneagram! They talk about the three centers of intelligence and<b> </b>the importance that head, heart, and gut have in determining how we take in information and interpret the world.<br /><br />Phil and Jenny share all about the Withdrawing stance.<br />4s (Jenny), 5s, and 9s (Phil) withdraw into themselves in order to know what to do. <br />Withdrawing numbers are past oriented, meaning we sometimes struggle to do/say things in real time.<b> <br /><br /></b>They also talk about the gifts and struggles of 4s, 5s, and 9s and the way that learning a system like The Enneagram helps people have more grace and space for ourselves and for the world around us.<br /><br />When we realize that we all have different motivations, desires, struggles, and ways of being it opens the door to connection and grace instead of judgment. And who doesn’t need more connection and grace? <br /><br />If you’re new to The Enneagram and trying to figure out your number:<br /><ol><li>Gently observe yourself this week. As you’re going about your business, notice how you respond to stress and the unexpected. When life gets a little wild is your first response to think, to feel, or to do?</li><li>As you narrow down your first response you will also arrive at whether you are in the head, the heart, or the gut triad. Once you arrive at your triad, consider your orientation to time. Are you always dreaming up what could be in the future? Are you fully aware of the present moment? Or are you consumed with the past? Notice where you spend a lot of your time mentally.</li><li>Next week we’ll dive into The Aggressive Stance, which encompasses 3s, 7s, and 8s. We’ll also have more helpful tips on figuring out your number. </li></ol>We mentioned the following this week: <ul><li><a href="https://www.lifeinthetrinityministry.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The work of Suzanne Stabile</a></li><li>Richard Rohr’s <a href="https://store.cac.org/collections/books/products/the-enneagram-a-christian-perspective" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram a Christian Perspective</a></li><li><a href="https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Enneagram Institute</a></li></ul><br /><br /><b>Chapters</b>00:00 Introduction of the Enneagram Series<br />07:10 Centers of Intelligence<br />10:39 Withdrawing Stance and Orientation to Time<br />13:45 Enneagram Type 9: The Peacemaker<br />22:03 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 9<br />39:08 The Dynamic Nature of the Enneagram<br />42:36 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 4 <br />51:37 The Difference Between Fours and Nines<br />53:25 The Gifts and Challenges of Being a Type 5 <br />58:36 Resources for Learning More About the Enneagram<br />01:11:31 The Importance of Being Gracious and Compassionate<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4434</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>compassion,divineimage,enneagram,gut,head,heart,intelligences,radical,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Divine Animism - A Plushier, Spongier Way of Being</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/divine-animism-a-plushier-spongier-way-of-being--58935097</link><description><![CDATA[This delightful episode is all about Divine Animacy. Dive in as Jenny and Phil explore a "greener, plushier, spongier ways of being," (you'll understand this description as you listen). Also, not all that surprising, there is again an ode to trees in this week's episode and an invitation to understand life more as verbs and less as nouns.<br /><br />Questions to consider:<br />When we recognize our connectedness to all things, how might our lives begin to shift?<br />How have you experienced the relational, interconnectedness of creation? Humans, and beyond.<br />If animism is an invitation into curiosity and less about clear definitions, what are you curious about?<br /><br />As is often the case, Jenny and Phil reference many things in this episode, such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://communalactsofbeauty.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fluent_odonohue.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fluent</a> by: John O’Donohue</li><li>Shoutout to <a href="https://www.michigan.org/property/grand-mere-state-park" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grand Mere State Park </a></li><li>All of <a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sophie Strand’s work</a><a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></li><li><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Braiding Sweetgrass</a> by: Robin Wall Kimmerer</li><li><a href="https://www.walterbrueggemann.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Walter Bruegemman</a>n</li><li><a href="https://bible.oremus.org/?ql=576671505" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Deuteronomy 20</a> - Rules of Warfare: save the trees</li><li><a href="https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/treesearch/62536" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tree Disparity in Lower Income Neighborhoods </a></li><li>Jenny’s foraging has been inspired heavily by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/BlackForager" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alexis Nikole Nelson</a></li><li><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374601119/waysofbeing" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ways of Being</a> by James Bridle</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62038-instructions-for-living-a-life-pay-attention-be-astonished-tell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instructions for Living a Life</a> by Mary Oliver</li></ul><br />Just a note. We recorded this episode a couple months ago. You'll hear ideas, quotes, and references from previously released episodes that were birthed in this episode. Time isn't always linear. <br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62038-instructions-for-living-a-life-pay-attention-be-astonished-tell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58935097</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58935097/animism_final.mp3" length="48888000" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This delightful episode is all about Divine Animacy. Dive in as Jenny and Phil explore a "greener, plushier, spongier ways of being," (you'll understand this description as you listen). Also, not all that surprising, there is again an ode to trees in...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This delightful episode is all about Divine Animacy. Dive in as Jenny and Phil explore a "greener, plushier, spongier ways of being," (you'll understand this description as you listen). Also, not all that surprising, there is again an ode to trees in this week's episode and an invitation to understand life more as verbs and less as nouns.<br /><br />Questions to consider:<br />When we recognize our connectedness to all things, how might our lives begin to shift?<br />How have you experienced the relational, interconnectedness of creation? Humans, and beyond.<br />If animism is an invitation into curiosity and less about clear definitions, what are you curious about?<br /><br />As is often the case, Jenny and Phil reference many things in this episode, such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://communalactsofbeauty.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/fluent_odonohue.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Fluent</a> by: John O’Donohue</li><li>Shoutout to <a href="https://www.michigan.org/property/grand-mere-state-park" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Grand Mere State Park </a></li><li>All of <a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sophie Strand’s work</a><a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a></li><li><a href="https://milkweed.org/book/braiding-sweetgrass" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Braiding Sweetgrass</a> by: Robin Wall Kimmerer</li><li><a href="https://www.walterbrueggemann.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Walter Bruegemman</a>n</li><li><a href="https://bible.oremus.org/?ql=576671505" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Deuteronomy 20</a> - Rules of Warfare: save the trees</li><li><a href="https://www.fs.usda.gov/research/treesearch/62536" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tree Disparity in Lower Income Neighborhoods </a></li><li>Jenny’s foraging has been inspired heavily by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/BlackForager" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Alexis Nikole Nelson</a></li><li><a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780374601119/waysofbeing" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ways of Being</a> by James Bridle</li><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62038-instructions-for-living-a-life-pay-attention-be-astonished-tell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instructions for Living a Life</a> by Mary Oliver</li></ul><br />Just a note. We recorded this episode a couple months ago. You'll hear ideas, quotes, and references from previously released episodes that were birthed in this episode. Time isn't always linear. <br /><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/62038-instructions-for-living-a-life-pay-attention-be-astonished-tell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3056</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>animism,connected,connection,creation,divine,ecology,faith,feminine,holy,integration,interconnectedness,masculine,panentheism,radical,relationship,sacred,sarcred,theology</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Sacred Masculine - A Follow Up to The Divine Feminine</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-sacred-masculine-a-follow-up-to-the-divine-feminine--58855794</link><description><![CDATA[This episode was a difficult one for Jenny and Phil. Their struggle around defining and identifying what feels sacred and masculine is rooted deeply in the spaces and places they were raised. Much of what they were handed about the sacred masculine was steeped in a white, western, patriarchal worldview that has been difficult to unpack. And yet, as they explored masculinity they were able to find many beautiful and hopeful qualities to celebrate. <br /><br />As you listen, consider how growing up in a patriarchal society might have also altered your views of sacred masculinity.<br />Could you identify with Phil and Jenny’s struggles with initially finding the sacredness in masculinity? <br />Who embodies an energy that feels divinely masculine to you?<br />What are your own qualities that feel holy and masculine? <br />What is an image of holy masculinity that makes you feel hopeful? <br /><br />May we remember that the true heart of the sacred masculine cannot be corrupted by patriarchy. <br /><br />Jenny and Phil cover a lot of ground and reference a lot of people and ideas in this thoughtful episode including:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzRTvHgQHQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ken Wilbur and Spiral Dynamics</a></li><li>Matthew Fox and <a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/donation-store/the-hidden-spirituality-of-men-ten-metaphors-to-awaken-the-sacred-masculine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Hidden Spirituality of Men</a></li><li><a href="https://sophiestrand.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sophie Strand</a> (every single thing she does but particularly her book Flowering Wand)</li><li><a href="https://www.berea.edu/centers/the-bell-hooks-center/about-bell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li><li>HBO's <a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-righteous-gemstones" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Righteous Gemstones</a> is always prophetic.</li><li><a href="https://www.thrushpoetryjournal.com/november-2021-ada-limoacuten.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cyrus and the Snakes </a>by Ada Limón (which kicked the ever living crap outta Jenny)</li><li><a href="https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/e-o-wilson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EO Wilson</a></li><li>Gabes Torres on <a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2023/09/26/activism-pleasure-eros-revolution-audre-lorde" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eros and Revolution</a></li></ul><br /><br />Chapters00:00- Introduction to the Sacred Masculine<br />03:00 - Struggles with the Patriarchal Representation of God<br />07:05 - Re-examining Masculinity in the Midst of Patriarchy<br />12:20 - Embracing and Transcending the Masculine<br />20:10 - Struggling with the Divine Masculine<br />23:52 - Finding Empathy for the Masculine through Poetry<br />27:48 - Reimagining Masculinity in Nature<br />30:39 - Envisioning Alternatives to Patriarchal Masculinity<br />36:00 - Healing the Masculine and Embracing Power<br />41:25 - Reconnecting with Nature and Embracing Vulnerability<br />46:49 - Eros and Revolution: Activism and Pleasure<br />50:24 - The Importance of Connection and Mythology in Masculinity<br />50:54 - Exploring Myths of Masculinity<br />57:34 - Divine Animacy<br />01:01:51 - Reconnecting to Self<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58855794</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58855794/riverside_sacred_masculine_feb_26_2024_001_radical_sacred.mp3" length="29496860" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This episode was a difficult one for Jenny and Phil. Their struggle around defining and identifying what feels sacred and masculine is rooted deeply in the spaces and places they were raised. Much of what they were handed about the sacred masculine...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This episode was a difficult one for Jenny and Phil. Their struggle around defining and identifying what feels sacred and masculine is rooted deeply in the spaces and places they were raised. Much of what they were handed about the sacred masculine was steeped in a white, western, patriarchal worldview that has been difficult to unpack. And yet, as they explored masculinity they were able to find many beautiful and hopeful qualities to celebrate. <br /><br />As you listen, consider how growing up in a patriarchal society might have also altered your views of sacred masculinity.<br />Could you identify with Phil and Jenny’s struggles with initially finding the sacredness in masculinity? <br />Who embodies an energy that feels divinely masculine to you?<br />What are your own qualities that feel holy and masculine? <br />What is an image of holy masculinity that makes you feel hopeful? <br /><br />May we remember that the true heart of the sacred masculine cannot be corrupted by patriarchy. <br /><br />Jenny and Phil cover a lot of ground and reference a lot of people and ideas in this thoughtful episode including:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzRTvHgQHQ" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ken Wilbur and Spiral Dynamics</a></li><li>Matthew Fox and <a href="https://www.matthewfox.org/donation-store/the-hidden-spirituality-of-men-ten-metaphors-to-awaken-the-sacred-masculine" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Hidden Spirituality of Men</a></li><li><a href="https://sophiestrand.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sophie Strand</a> (every single thing she does but particularly her book Flowering Wand)</li><li><a href="https://www.berea.edu/centers/the-bell-hooks-center/about-bell" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li><li>HBO's <a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-righteous-gemstones" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Righteous Gemstones</a> is always prophetic.</li><li><a href="https://www.thrushpoetryjournal.com/november-2021-ada-limoacuten.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cyrus and the Snakes </a>by Ada Limón (which kicked the ever living crap outta Jenny)</li><li><a href="https://eowilsonfoundation.org/about-us/e-o-wilson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EO Wilson</a></li><li>Gabes Torres on <a href="https://www.yesmagazine.org/opinion/2023/09/26/activism-pleasure-eros-revolution-audre-lorde" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eros and Revolution</a></li></ul><br /><br />Chapters00:00- Introduction to the Sacred Masculine<br />03:00 - Struggles with the Patriarchal Representation of God<br />07:05 - Re-examining Masculinity in the Midst of Patriarchy<br />12:20 - Embracing and Transcending the Masculine<br />20:10 - Struggling with the Divine Masculine<br />23:52 - Finding Empathy for the Masculine through Poetry<br />27:48 - Reimagining Masculinity in Nature<br />30:39 - Envisioning Alternatives to Patriarchal Masculinity<br />36:00 - Healing the Masculine and Embracing Power<br />41:25 - Reconnecting with Nature and Embracing Vulnerability<br />46:49 - Eros and Revolution: Activism and Pleasure<br />50:24 - The Importance of Connection and Mythology in Masculinity<br />50:54 - Exploring Myths of Masculinity<br />57:34 - Divine Animacy<br />01:01:51 - Reconnecting to Self<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3688</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>deconstruction,divine,divinemasculine,holy,masculine,patriarchy,radical,radicalsacred,religion,sacred,sacredmasculine,spirituality,transcend,transcendandinclude</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Divine Feminine</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-divine-feminine--58759084</link><description><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil begin a three part series, a trilogy if you will, discussing the concept of the Divine Feminine and its importance in spirituality. They discuss how each of them have come to not only understand, but also encounter the Divine Feminine, especially in unexpected places outside of typical church. They also explore how to tap into divine feminine energy, rethinking the narrow Western views of feminine and masculine, and the holistic approach that requires head, heart, and whole being.<br /><br />This trilogy/series was heavily influenced by the work of Sophie Strand. You can find out more about her <a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.<br /><br />Questions:<br /><ul><li>What assumptions, or preconceived notions do you hold about the Divine Feminine?</li><li>Who do you know that taps into divine feminine energy?</li><li>What makes you feel connected to your own feminine energy?</li></ul><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction to the Divine Feminine<br />01:02 The Concept of Jesus Being Fully Human and Fully Divine, and the potential problem<br />07:14 The Demonization of Eve and the Treatment of Women in Christianity<br />08:14 Personal Experience of Discovering the Divine Feminine<br />10:25 The Sacred Heart of Mary and Mother Earth<br />11:32 Embracing Divine Femininity and Challenging Traditional Views<br />12:08 The Anger and Frustration Surrounding the Divine Feminine<br />14:28 Defining Aspects of the Divine Feminine<br />16:27 The Body of God and the Divine Feminine<br />19:40 Reimagining and Co-creating a Balanced Divine Feminine<br />22:29 Recognizing Divine Femininity in Others and Ourselves<br />29:10 The Divine Feminine as an Invitation to Reimagine Spirituality<br />32:03 The Repression and Exploration of Divine Femininity<br />35:12 The Importance of Returning to Sacred Roots<br />36:04 Conclusion and Teaser for Divine Masculine]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58759084</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58759084/divine_feminine.mp3" length="52278775" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week Jenny and Phil begin a three part series, a trilogy if you will, discussing the concept of the Divine Feminine and its importance in spirituality. They discuss how each of them have come to not only understand, but also encounter the Divine...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil begin a three part series, a trilogy if you will, discussing the concept of the Divine Feminine and its importance in spirituality. They discuss how each of them have come to not only understand, but also encounter the Divine Feminine, especially in unexpected places outside of typical church. They also explore how to tap into divine feminine energy, rethinking the narrow Western views of feminine and masculine, and the holistic approach that requires head, heart, and whole being.<br /><br />This trilogy/series was heavily influenced by the work of Sophie Strand. You can find out more about her <a href="https://sophiestrand.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.<br /><br />Questions:<br /><ul><li>What assumptions, or preconceived notions do you hold about the Divine Feminine?</li><li>Who do you know that taps into divine feminine energy?</li><li>What makes you feel connected to your own feminine energy?</li></ul><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction to the Divine Feminine<br />01:02 The Concept of Jesus Being Fully Human and Fully Divine, and the potential problem<br />07:14 The Demonization of Eve and the Treatment of Women in Christianity<br />08:14 Personal Experience of Discovering the Divine Feminine<br />10:25 The Sacred Heart of Mary and Mother Earth<br />11:32 Embracing Divine Femininity and Challenging Traditional Views<br />12:08 The Anger and Frustration Surrounding the Divine Feminine<br />14:28 Defining Aspects of the Divine Feminine<br />16:27 The Body of God and the Divine Feminine<br />19:40 Reimagining and Co-creating a Balanced Divine Feminine<br />22:29 Recognizing Divine Femininity in Others and Ourselves<br />29:10 The Divine Feminine as an Invitation to Reimagine Spirituality<br />32:03 The Repression and Exploration of Divine Femininity<br />35:12 The Importance of Returning to Sacred Roots<br />36:04 Conclusion and Teaser for Divine Masculine]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2178</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>divinefeminine,feminine,gaia,masculine,motherearth,radicalsacred,roots,sacred,sacredmasculine,sophiestrand</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Is Your Heart Strangely Warmed?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/is-your-heart-strangely-warmed--58679932</link><description><![CDATA[In this Valentine's Day/Ash Wednesday episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the life and ministry of John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, with Rev. Elizabeth Moseley. They explore the concept of Wesley's heart being strangely warmed and how it transformed his faith and ministry. They highlight Wesley's emphasis on both personal faith, social holiness, and community engagement, as well as his ongoing journey of growth and development.<br /><br />They also get a little vulnerable and share personal reflections on moments when their own hearts were strangely warmed. The episode begins and ends with Jenny reading the poem "<a href="https://www.instagram.com/katejbaer/p/Cics6nvObny/?img_index=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Halfway There</a>" by Kate Baer.<br /><br />Wishing you all a Happy Valentine's Day, Ash Wednesday, and a blessed lenten journey.<br /><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />03:01 John Wesley and the Methodist Movement<br />17:06 John Wesley's Heart Strangely Warmed<br />21:21 Reading from John Wesley's Journal<br />25:22 Continual Growth and Development<br />35:58 Personal Reflections<br />37:15 Personal Experiences with Emotional Moments<br />38:13 Discovering a Call to Ministry<br />39:02 The Power of Religious Experience<br />41:29 Finding Clarity and Joy<br />43:38 Spiritual Direction and Connection to Nature<br />46:01 Prayer and Waiting for Assurance<br />50:33 The Importance of Storytelling<br />53:53 Taking Action and Trusting God<br />54:40 Closing Remarks and Poem]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58679932</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58679932/is_your_heart_strangely_warmed.mp3" length="54487400" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this Valentine's Day/Ash Wednesday episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the life and ministry of John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, with Rev. Elizabeth Moseley. They explore the concept of Wesley's heart being strangely warmed and how it transformed...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this Valentine's Day/Ash Wednesday episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the life and ministry of John Wesley, the founder of Methodism, with Rev. Elizabeth Moseley. They explore the concept of Wesley's heart being strangely warmed and how it transformed his faith and ministry. They highlight Wesley's emphasis on both personal faith, social holiness, and community engagement, as well as his ongoing journey of growth and development.<br /><br />They also get a little vulnerable and share personal reflections on moments when their own hearts were strangely warmed. The episode begins and ends with Jenny reading the poem "<a href="https://www.instagram.com/katejbaer/p/Cics6nvObny/?img_index=1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Halfway There</a>" by Kate Baer.<br /><br />Wishing you all a Happy Valentine's Day, Ash Wednesday, and a blessed lenten journey.<br /><br />Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />03:01 John Wesley and the Methodist Movement<br />17:06 John Wesley's Heart Strangely Warmed<br />21:21 Reading from John Wesley's Journal<br />25:22 Continual Growth and Development<br />35:58 Personal Reflections<br />37:15 Personal Experiences with Emotional Moments<br />38:13 Discovering a Call to Ministry<br />39:02 The Power of Religious Experience<br />41:29 Finding Clarity and Joy<br />43:38 Spiritual Direction and Connection to Nature<br />46:01 Prayer and Waiting for Assurance<br />50:33 The Importance of Storytelling<br />53:53 Taking Action and Trusting God<br />54:40 Closing Remarks and Poem]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3406</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ashwednesday,experience,heart,johnwesley,lent,moist,radical,religiousexperience,sacred,strangelywarmed,unitedmethodism,unitedmethodist,valentinesday,wesleyanism</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Ancestors with Rev. William H. Lamar IV</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ancestors-with-rev-william-h-lamar-iv--58586987</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the importance of ancestors with Rev. William H. Lamar IV. They explore the role of ancestors in society, politics, and faith, as well as the fear associated with ancestor veneration. They explore the importance of facing and embracing our ancestral history, even the difficult and imperfect parts, emphacizing the need to avoid avoidance and shame, as they perpetuate generational trauma. By cutting off our connection to all of our ancestors, we become disconnected from ourselves, our bodies, the land, and each other.<br /><br />The conversation also highlights the role of disruption and questioning in ancestral healing, as well as the significance of engaging with the text and exploring our own ancestral roots. Ultimately, the goal is to become good ancestors while also loving our own ancestors, fiercely.<br /><br /><br />Chapters<br /><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />01:22 The Importance of Ancestors<br />05:20 Ancestors by Blood and Bond<br />08:09 The Connection Between Ancestors and Now<br />09:20 Ancestral Connection in Society and Politics<br />11:31 Ancestors and the Theology of Birding<br />13:49 The Revisionist History of Ancestors<br />14:22 Healing and Ancestors<br />19:32 The Fear of Diminishing Worship of Jesus<br />21:48 Tapping into Other Streams of Ancestors<br />28:50 The Capitalization of Ancestry<br />36:23 The Difference Between Information and Formation<br />41:48 Recognizing and Honoring Ancestors<br />47:07 Cutting Off Ancestral Connection<br />49:20 Facing the Hard Stuff<br />50:05 Bringing Ancestors to the Space<br />51:33 Disruption and Questioning<br />52:19 Ancestors in the Midst<br />53:46 Engaging with the Text<br />54:16 Exploring Ancestors<br />56:18 Uncovering Hidden History<br />57:19 Becoming Good Ancestors<br /><br />Rev. Lamar also references <a href="https://colearthurriley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole Arthur Riley</a> and a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Medicine-Rituals-Personal-Healing/dp/1591432693" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">book by Daniel Foor.</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58586987</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58586987/ancestors_with_rev_william_h_lamar_iv.mp3" length="56965062" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the importance of ancestors with Rev. William H. Lamar IV. They explore the role of ancestors in society, politics, and faith, as well as the fear associated with ancestor veneration. They explore the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode, Jenny and Phil discuss the importance of ancestors with Rev. William H. Lamar IV. They explore the role of ancestors in society, politics, and faith, as well as the fear associated with ancestor veneration. They explore the importance of facing and embracing our ancestral history, even the difficult and imperfect parts, emphacizing the need to avoid avoidance and shame, as they perpetuate generational trauma. By cutting off our connection to all of our ancestors, we become disconnected from ourselves, our bodies, the land, and each other.<br /><br />The conversation also highlights the role of disruption and questioning in ancestral healing, as well as the significance of engaging with the text and exploring our own ancestral roots. Ultimately, the goal is to become good ancestors while also loving our own ancestors, fiercely.<br /><br /><br />Chapters<br /><br />00:00 Introduction and Background<br />01:22 The Importance of Ancestors<br />05:20 Ancestors by Blood and Bond<br />08:09 The Connection Between Ancestors and Now<br />09:20 Ancestral Connection in Society and Politics<br />11:31 Ancestors and the Theology of Birding<br />13:49 The Revisionist History of Ancestors<br />14:22 Healing and Ancestors<br />19:32 The Fear of Diminishing Worship of Jesus<br />21:48 Tapping into Other Streams of Ancestors<br />28:50 The Capitalization of Ancestry<br />36:23 The Difference Between Information and Formation<br />41:48 Recognizing and Honoring Ancestors<br />47:07 Cutting Off Ancestral Connection<br />49:20 Facing the Hard Stuff<br />50:05 Bringing Ancestors to the Space<br />51:33 Disruption and Questioning<br />52:19 Ancestors in the Midst<br />53:46 Engaging with the Text<br />54:16 Exploring Ancestors<br />56:18 Uncovering Hidden History<br />57:19 Becoming Good Ancestors<br /><br />Rev. Lamar also references <a href="https://colearthurriley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole Arthur Riley</a> and a <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ancestral-Medicine-Rituals-Personal-Healing/dp/1591432693" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">book by Daniel Foor.</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3561</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ancestors,bible,healing,history,jesus,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,spirituality,theology,trauma,veneration</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Lberation Theology with Rev. Mitchell Boone</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/lberation-theology-with-rev-mitchell-boone--58507293</link><description><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil talk with Rev. Mitchell Boone about Liberation Theology. Never heard of Liberation Theology? You are in good company and this conversation will be a lively introduction to a potentially offensive understanding of theology.<br /><br />Rev. Boone is the <a href="https://firstchurchdallas.org/visit/team/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Senior Minister</a> at <a href="https://firstchurchdallas.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First United Methodist Church in Downtown Dallas</a> and beloved friend of both Jenny and Phil. <br /><br />During this episode they discuss theologians such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://theology.nd.edu/people/gustavo-gutierrez/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gustavo Guitierrez</a></li><li><a href="https://www.joergrieger.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joerg Rieger</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/28/606757226/james-h-cone-founder-of-black-liberation-theology-dies-at-79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Cone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/bell-hooks" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li></ul>And reference books such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Theology-Liberation-Salvation-Anniversary-Introduction/dp/0883445425/ref=asc_df_0883445425/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312371602209&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=7614782131807901355&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9017334&amp;hvtargid=pla-570267673371&amp;psc=1&amp;mcid=5d1aabade63737fe9e8f04e6af66fc08&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=61011965686&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=312371602209&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=7614782131807901355&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9017334&amp;hvtargid=pla-570267673371" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Theology of Liberation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Side-Poor-Theology-Liberation/dp/1626981159" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Side of the Poor</a></li></ul>As you listen to this week's episode here are a few questions to consider:<br /><ul><li>What would adopting liberation theology look like in your daily life?</li><li>How has your belief system shifted and changed and expanded from when you were young?</li><li>Mitchell talks about the role of his youth pastor played in expanding his theology, who was the first person to expand your theology in such a way?</li></ul><br />Side notes:<br /><ul><li>We regularly reference books and want to make sure you have links to them, we are big fans of local book publishers so even if we share an Amazon link we recommend exploring your local book store or <a href="https://www.hpb.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Half Price Books</a>.</li><li>If you're ever in Rockwall you should definitely check out <a href="https://www.joewillys.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joe Willy's</a>, be sure to invite us!</li></ul><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58507293</guid><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58507293/lberation_theology_with_mitchell_boone.mp3" length="66737383" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week Jenny and Phil talk with Rev. Mitchell Boone about Liberation Theology. Never heard of Liberation Theology? You are in good company and this conversation will be a lively introduction to a potentially offensive understanding of theology....</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil talk with Rev. Mitchell Boone about Liberation Theology. Never heard of Liberation Theology? You are in good company and this conversation will be a lively introduction to a potentially offensive understanding of theology.<br /><br />Rev. Boone is the <a href="https://firstchurchdallas.org/visit/team/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Senior Minister</a> at <a href="https://firstchurchdallas.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">First United Methodist Church in Downtown Dallas</a> and beloved friend of both Jenny and Phil. <br /><br />During this episode they discuss theologians such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://theology.nd.edu/people/gustavo-gutierrez/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gustavo Guitierrez</a></li><li><a href="https://www.joergrieger.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joerg Rieger</a></li><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/28/606757226/james-h-cone-founder-of-black-liberation-theology-dies-at-79" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James Cone</a></li><li><a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/bell-hooks" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">bell hooks</a></li></ul>And reference books such as:<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Theology-Liberation-Salvation-Anniversary-Introduction/dp/0883445425/ref=asc_df_0883445425/?tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=312371602209&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=7614782131807901355&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9017334&amp;hvtargid=pla-570267673371&amp;psc=1&amp;mcid=5d1aabade63737fe9e8f04e6af66fc08&amp;tag=&amp;ref=&amp;adgrpid=61011965686&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvadid=312371602209&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=7614782131807901355&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=m&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9017334&amp;hvtargid=pla-570267673371" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Theology of Liberation</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Side-Poor-Theology-Liberation/dp/1626981159" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Side of the Poor</a></li></ul>As you listen to this week's episode here are a few questions to consider:<br /><ul><li>What would adopting liberation theology look like in your daily life?</li><li>How has your belief system shifted and changed and expanded from when you were young?</li><li>Mitchell talks about the role of his youth pastor played in expanding his theology, who was the first person to expand your theology in such a way?</li></ul><br />Side notes:<br /><ul><li>We regularly reference books and want to make sure you have links to them, we are big fans of local book publishers so even if we share an Amazon link we recommend exploring your local book store or <a href="https://www.hpb.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Half Price Books</a>.</li><li>If you're ever in Rockwall you should definitely check out <a href="https://www.joewillys.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Joe Willy's</a>, be sure to invite us!</li></ul><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2781</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>dallas,firstumc,liberation,liberationtheology,radical,radicalsacred,rockwall,theology,umc,unitedmethodist</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Religious Trauma with Jessica Brazeal</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/religious-trauma-with-jessica-brazeal--58396926</link><description><![CDATA[Jessica Brazeal is a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor and serves as the Chief Programs<br />Officer at <a href="https://www.newfriendsnewlife.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">New Friends New Life</a> as well as being co-owner of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center in</a><br /><a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dallas</a>.<br /><br />In this episode Jessica graciously talks with Jenny and Phil about the topic of Religious Trama: what it is, what are some of the signs of trauma, and how we can begin to leave religious spaces that are harmful to us. <br /><br />Jessica asks the beautifully haunting question, "How do we begin to create our own spiritual path after religious trauma?"<br /><br />She also shares about the guidance and impact of <a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rachel Held Evans</a> and her writings. She credits Rachel for the spiritual freedom that came from reading her books and the invitation to be herself from Rachel's gorgeous and inclusive faith.<br /><br />Jessica asks:<br /><ul><li>Who gives you permission to engage with God in ways that feel free and true to you?</li><li>How does religious trauma affect us as individuals and as a collective?</li></ul>She also suggested this authors as you "unlearn harmful religious ideals":<br />Sarah Bessey, Glennon Doyle, Jen Hatmaker, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Rob Bell, Richard Rohr, Krista Tippett, Padraig O' Tuama, The Bible for Normal People, Pete Holmes, and Brian McLaren.<br /><br />Her "best book ever," <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22822858-a-little-life" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Little Life</a> by Hanya Yanagihara <br /><br />You can also find out more about <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/blog/whatisemdr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EMDR here</a>.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58396926</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:15:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58396926/upload_ready_religious_trauma_jessica_brazeal.mp3" length="67835995" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Jessica Brazeal is a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor and serves as the Chief Programs
Officer at https://www.newfriendsnewlife.org/ as well as being co-owner of https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jessica Brazeal is a Licensed Professional Counselor-Supervisor and serves as the Chief Programs<br />Officer at <a href="https://www.newfriendsnewlife.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">New Friends New Life</a> as well as being co-owner of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center in</a><br /><a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dallas</a>.<br /><br />In this episode Jessica graciously talks with Jenny and Phil about the topic of Religious Trama: what it is, what are some of the signs of trauma, and how we can begin to leave religious spaces that are harmful to us. <br /><br />Jessica asks the beautifully haunting question, "How do we begin to create our own spiritual path after religious trauma?"<br /><br />She also shares about the guidance and impact of <a href="https://rachelheldevans.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rachel Held Evans</a> and her writings. She credits Rachel for the spiritual freedom that came from reading her books and the invitation to be herself from Rachel's gorgeous and inclusive faith.<br /><br />Jessica asks:<br /><ul><li>Who gives you permission to engage with God in ways that feel free and true to you?</li><li>How does religious trauma affect us as individuals and as a collective?</li></ul>She also suggested this authors as you "unlearn harmful religious ideals":<br />Sarah Bessey, Glennon Doyle, Jen Hatmaker, Nadia Bolz-Weber, Rob Bell, Richard Rohr, Krista Tippett, Padraig O' Tuama, The Bible for Normal People, Pete Holmes, and Brian McLaren.<br /><br />Her "best book ever," <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22822858-a-little-life" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">A Little Life</a> by Hanya Yanagihara <br /><br />You can also find out more about <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com/blog/whatisemdr" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">EMDR here</a>.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2826</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>emdr,harm,heal,healing,rachelheldevans,religiousharm,religioustrauma,rhe,trauma</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>true</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Stages of Change with Kelly Slaven</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/stages-of-change-with-kelly-slaven--58321389</link><description><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil sit down with Kelly Slaven to discuss the Stages of Change. Kelly is a Licensed Clinical Social Working Supervisor and co-owner of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> in Dallas, TX. <br /><br />It turns out change is hard. And, as the saying goes, "the only constant is change," thus this week's episode takes a deep dive into the Stages of Change, specifically how we can understand change and use these stages to have a more grace filled response to ourselves and to others. <br /><br />In addition to breaking down the Stages of Change, Kelly reminds us that being a good neighbor means seeing people's hearts instead of their labels, discusses rediscovering joy as a pathway to that "feeling of your intrinsic self," and the many different ways we can return to our own sacred knowing.<br /><br />"There's no wrong way to get back in touch with your divine sense of childlike joy."<br /><br />Find out more about the Stages of Change <a href="https://sphweb.bumc.bu.edu/otlt/mph-modules/sb/behavioralchangetheories/behavioralchangetheories6.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. <br /><br /><br />Side note: <br />We apologize for the sound quality in this episode, we were not able to record with our producer, Dexter Evans. Though the sound quality is not as good as previous episodes, the content is wonderful. Thanks for joining us on this journey. Stay rooted!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58321389</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 11:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58321389/stages_of_change_kelly_slaven.mp3" length="41330880" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week Jenny and Phil sit down with Kelly Slaven to discuss the Stages of Change. Kelly is a Licensed Clinical Social Working Supervisor and co-owner of https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com in Dallas, TX. 

It turns out change is hard. And, as...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week Jenny and Phil sit down with Kelly Slaven to discuss the Stages of Change. Kelly is a Licensed Clinical Social Working Supervisor and co-owner of <a href="https://www.thehavenwellnesscenter.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Haven Wellness Center</a> in Dallas, TX. <br /><br />It turns out change is hard. And, as the saying goes, "the only constant is change," thus this week's episode takes a deep dive into the Stages of Change, specifically how we can understand change and use these stages to have a more grace filled response to ourselves and to others. <br /><br />In addition to breaking down the Stages of Change, Kelly reminds us that being a good neighbor means seeing people's hearts instead of their labels, discusses rediscovering joy as a pathway to that "feeling of your intrinsic self," and the many different ways we can return to our own sacred knowing.<br /><br />"There's no wrong way to get back in touch with your divine sense of childlike joy."<br /><br />Find out more about the Stages of Change <a href="https://sphweb.bumc.bu.edu/otlt/mph-modules/sb/behavioralchangetheories/behavioralchangetheories6.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. <br /><br /><br />Side note: <br />We apologize for the sound quality in this episode, we were not able to record with our producer, Dexter Evans. Though the sound quality is not as good as previous episodes, the content is wonderful. Thanks for joining us on this journey. Stay rooted!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2584</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>change,grace,havenwellnesscenter,joy,radical,sacred,stagesofchange</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Christian Mysticism</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/christian-mysticism--58220114</link><description><![CDATA[What is mysticism? How is Christian Mysticism unique? What differentiates mysticism from a mystical experience. <br /><br />These are some of the driving questions Jenny and Phil explore as they talk through their own experiences and do their best to define that which feels undefinable. They reference mystics such as <a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John O'Donohue</a> and <a href="https://mirabaistarr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mirabai Starr</a>, and mention Harvey D. Egan's book <a href="https://litpress.org/Products/6012/An-Anthology-of-Christian-Mysticism" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">An Anthology of Christian Mysticism</a> and William James' book <a href="https://csrs.nd.edu/assets/59930/williams_1902.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Varieties of Religious Experience</a>.<br /><br />If you have questions about Christian Mysticism or if you'd like to share your experiences that go beyond the rational, we'd love to hear them. Find us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a> or send us an email (radicalsacredpod@gmail.com). <br /><br />May your heart and mind be open, as you stay rooted!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58220114</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58220114/christian_mysticism.mp3" length="57921937" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What is mysticism? How is Christian Mysticism unique? What differentiates mysticism from a mystical experience. 

These are some of the driving questions Jenny and Phil explore as they talk through their own experiences and do their best to define...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What is mysticism? How is Christian Mysticism unique? What differentiates mysticism from a mystical experience. <br /><br />These are some of the driving questions Jenny and Phil explore as they talk through their own experiences and do their best to define that which feels undefinable. They reference mystics such as <a href="https://www.johnodonohue.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John O'Donohue</a> and <a href="https://mirabaistarr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mirabai Starr</a>, and mention Harvey D. Egan's book <a href="https://litpress.org/Products/6012/An-Anthology-of-Christian-Mysticism" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">An Anthology of Christian Mysticism</a> and William James' book <a href="https://csrs.nd.edu/assets/59930/williams_1902.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Varieties of Religious Experience</a>.<br /><br />If you have questions about Christian Mysticism or if you'd like to share your experiences that go beyond the rational, we'd love to hear them. Find us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a> or send us an email (radicalsacredpod@gmail.com). <br /><br />May your heart and mind be open, as you stay rooted!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2413</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>christianmysticism,experience,faith,mystic,mysticism,oneness,radical,radicalsacred,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Spirituality of Birding</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-spirituality-of-birding--58169101</link><description><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil discuss the spirituality of birding. This isn't Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds, nor is it a hobby you've only heard your grandma talk about. This conversation is an invitation to reconnect with the wonders of nature and a look into the roots of Jenny and Phil's love of nature and the connection it holds to their fathers. If you are new to birding, or birding curious, Jenny and Phil mention an app that helps identify birds, that app is the Merlin app by Cornell and you can find out more about it <a href="https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. <br /><br />If you have a love and appreciation for nature, who fostered that in you?<br />Do you have a favorite bird?<br />Jenny and Phil would love to hear from you, find them on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>.<br /><br />Stay rooted!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58169101</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 11:15:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58169101/the_spirituality_of_birding.mp3" length="44797633" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode Jenny and Phil discuss the spirituality of birding. This isn't Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds, nor is it a hobby you've only heard your grandma talk about. This conversation is an invitation to reconnect with the wonders of nature...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this week's episode Jenny and Phil discuss the spirituality of birding. This isn't Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds, nor is it a hobby you've only heard your grandma talk about. This conversation is an invitation to reconnect with the wonders of nature and a look into the roots of Jenny and Phil's love of nature and the connection it holds to their fathers. If you are new to birding, or birding curious, Jenny and Phil mention an app that helps identify birds, that app is the Merlin app by Cornell and you can find out more about it <a href="https://merlin.allaboutbirds.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>. <br /><br />If you have a love and appreciation for nature, who fostered that in you?<br />Do you have a favorite bird?<br />Jenny and Phil would love to hear from you, find them on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Instagram</a>.<br /><br />Stay rooted!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1866</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>bird,birding,cornell,dallas,merlin,nature,practice,radical,radicalsacred,roots,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Happy New Year and Introductions</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/happy-new-year-and-introductions--58164270</link><description><![CDATA[Enjoy this BONUS New Year's Day edition of the podcast.<br /><br />It's a new year and Jenny and Phil thought it would be a good time to actually introduce themselves. They also discuss a fantastic question for the new year from Brene Brown, "<b>What will make me feel more alive? Braver?" </b>Jenny ends with a beautiful poem from <a href="https://www.meganfalley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Megan Falley</a>, "A Wish for the New Year."<br /><br />Happy 2024. Cheers to (re)connecting to our sacred roots in the new year.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58164270</guid><pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2024 11:50:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58164270/new_year_and_intros.mp3" length="20449639" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Enjoy this BONUS New Year's Day edition of the podcast.

It's a new year and Jenny and Phil thought it would be a good time to actually introduce themselves. They also discuss a fantastic question for the new year from Brene Brown, "What will make me...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Enjoy this BONUS New Year's Day edition of the podcast.<br /><br />It's a new year and Jenny and Phil thought it would be a good time to actually introduce themselves. They also discuss a fantastic question for the new year from Brene Brown, "<b>What will make me feel more alive? Braver?" </b>Jenny ends with a beautiful poem from <a href="https://www.meganfalley.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Megan Falley</a>, "A Wish for the New Year."<br /><br />Happy 2024. Cheers to (re)connecting to our sacred roots in the new year.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1279</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>2024,brenebrown,introductions,newyear,presence,radical,radicalsacred,rooted,sacred,spirituality</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Myth of Redemptive Violence</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-myth-of-redemptive-violence--58096723</link><description><![CDATA[The stories we tell have great power. Some stories are factual, at least to the best of our memory. Other stories are true, but not necessarily factual, these stories reveal something about human nature, the way of the world/universe, or what <a href="https://marcusjborg.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Marcus Borg</a> called the truth behind the truth. Then there are stories that we continue to tell and/or liveout. Stories that perpetuate harm. Stories that benefit a minority at the expense of the majority.<br /><br />They myth of redemptive violence is a story we, as humanity, have told for as long as we have been telling stories. Unfortunately, it is a myth we have continued to live out believing eventually it will get us a different result. It is the story Walter Wink calls, "the victory of order over chaos by means of violence. It is the ideology of conquest, the original religion of the status quo." Wink goes on to say in his book <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/192301/the-powers-that-be-by-walter-wink/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Powers the Be: Theology for a New Millennium</a> that all too often religion promotes this mythology saying: <br /><br />Religion exists to legitimate power and privilege. Life is combat. Any form of order is preferable to chaos, according to this myth. Ours is neither a perfect nor perfectible world; it is theatre of<br />perpetual conflict in which the prize goes to the strong. Peace through war, security<br />through strength: these are the core convictions that arise from this ancient historical<br />religion, and they form the solid bedrock on which the Domination System is founded in<br />every society.<br /><br />But this doesn't have to be the myth we live. This doesn't have to be our story. Wink also goes on to state, "The reign of God means the elimination of every form of violence between individuals and nations. This is a realm and a possibility of which those imprisoned by their trust in violence cannot even conceive."<br /><br />In this episode, Jenny and Phil take a look at this myth, the suffering it is causing in our world today, and offer an invitation to a "Third Way."]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58096723</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2023 11:05:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58096723/upload_ready_redemptive_violence.mp3" length="46828714" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The stories we tell have great power. Some stories are factual, at least to the best of our memory. Other stories are true, but not necessarily factual, these stories reveal something about human nature, the way of the world/universe, or what...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The stories we tell have great power. Some stories are factual, at least to the best of our memory. Other stories are true, but not necessarily factual, these stories reveal something about human nature, the way of the world/universe, or what <a href="https://marcusjborg.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Marcus Borg</a> called the truth behind the truth. Then there are stories that we continue to tell and/or liveout. Stories that perpetuate harm. Stories that benefit a minority at the expense of the majority.<br /><br />They myth of redemptive violence is a story we, as humanity, have told for as long as we have been telling stories. Unfortunately, it is a myth we have continued to live out believing eventually it will get us a different result. It is the story Walter Wink calls, "the victory of order over chaos by means of violence. It is the ideology of conquest, the original religion of the status quo." Wink goes on to say in his book <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/192301/the-powers-that-be-by-walter-wink/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Powers the Be: Theology for a New Millennium</a> that all too often religion promotes this mythology saying: <br /><br />Religion exists to legitimate power and privilege. Life is combat. Any form of order is preferable to chaos, according to this myth. Ours is neither a perfect nor perfectible world; it is theatre of<br />perpetual conflict in which the prize goes to the strong. Peace through war, security<br />through strength: these are the core convictions that arise from this ancient historical<br />religion, and they form the solid bedrock on which the Domination System is founded in<br />every society.<br /><br />But this doesn't have to be the myth we live. This doesn't have to be our story. Wink also goes on to state, "The reign of God means the elimination of every form of violence between individuals and nations. This is a realm and a possibility of which those imprisoned by their trust in violence cannot even conceive."<br /><br />In this episode, Jenny and Phil take a look at this myth, the suffering it is causing in our world today, and offer an invitation to a "Third Way."]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2927</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>justice,love,myth,peace,redemptiveviolence,stories,story,thirdway,violence,walterwink,wink</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Mulberry Tree</title><link>https://www.instagram.com/radicalsacred/</link><description><![CDATA[On our first episode of Radical Sacred Jenny and Phil share how an encounter with a simple backyard mulberry tree invited us to remember our own sacred wisdom and deep belonging.<br /><br />When we pay attention to the expedient wisdom of the Mulberry Tree what could we learn about ourselves and the world around us?<br /><br />Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58061870</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2023 18:00:33 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58061870/episode_1_mixdown.mp3" length="28725994" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Jenny Misslin and Phillip Dieke</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On our first episode of Radical Sacred Jenny and Phil share how an encounter with a simple backyard mulberry tree invited us to remember our own sacred wisdom and deep belonging.

When we pay attention to the expedient wisdom of the Mulberry Tree what...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On our first episode of Radical Sacred Jenny and Phil share how an encounter with a simple backyard mulberry tree invited us to remember our own sacred wisdom and deep belonging.<br /><br />When we pay attention to the expedient wisdom of the Mulberry Tree what could we learn about ourselves and the world around us?<br /><br />Remember, you are on sacred ground. Stay rooted!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1197</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>community,contemplative,mulberry,nature,pracitces,presence,radical,rooted,sacred,spirituality,spiritualpractices,trees</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c41951ecbf7fd9627396ab53e70f8bff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item></channel></rss>
