http://www.unsafespacespodcast.com
It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing.

And in the wake of a decades-long battle for equality, it was all the more devastating for the gay community to discover: It was one - or maybe even two - of their own who were responsible for what would become some of Florida’s most heinous and disturbed crimes.

Unsafe Spaces continues the style and ambition of host Josh Hallmark's True Crime Bullsh** podcast. It is obsessive, curious, challenging; and examines not just the crimes it covers, but the cultural and political impacts of and on them.

Unsafe Spaces arrives in your podcast feed on October 19th.]]>enTrue CrimeCopyright Studio BOTH/ANDhttps://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2059d6702f445cf4880638e0221ea52c.jpghttp://www.unsafespacespodcast.comTue, 04 Nov 2025 14:34:41 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDStudio BOTH/ANDfeeds@spreaker.comFor close to two decades, gay men in Tampa were disappearing at an alarming rate. It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing. And in the wake...
It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing.

And in the wake of a decades-long battle for equality, it was all the more devastating for the gay community to discover: It was one - or maybe even two - of their own who were responsible for what would become some of Florida’s most heinous and disturbed crimes.

Unsafe Spaces continues the style and ambition of host Josh Hallmark's True Crime Bullsh** podcast. It is obsessive, curious, challenging; and examines not just the crimes it covers, but the cultural and political impacts of and on them.

Unsafe Spaces arrives in your podcast feed on October 19th.]]>cleanepisodichttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0203-this-is-just-the-beginning--66208553Halfway through writing this episode, something happened. An article, a map, and an IM chat changed the way we've been viewing this entire exploration and all of our research. There was a feeling we couldn't shake. The deeper we looked, the more questions we had. And we realized that this whole thing was bigger; so much bigger than we ever oculd have imagined. And so, we pressed pause and bounced into action. There is so much more to this story. ]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66208553Thu, 22 May 2025 19:24:31 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDWherein we blow up the entire investigation... Halfway through writing this episode, something happened. An article, a map, and an IM chat changed the way we've been viewing this entire exploration and all of our research. There was a feeling we...Halfway through writing this episode, something happened. An article, a map, and an IM chat changed the way we've been viewing this entire exploration and all of our research. There was a feeling we couldn't shake. The deeper we looked, the more questions we had. And we realized that this whole thing was bigger; so much bigger than we ever oculd have imagined. And so, we pressed pause and bounced into action. There is so much more to this story. ]]>763clean23fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0202-ouroboros--65826253
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Resources: 

• Florida State University
• NAMUS
• The Charley Project
• American Addiction Centers
• Pink News
• AmFar
• The National Library of Medicine
• The Florida Department of Corrections
• News-Press.com
• Charlotte County Sheriff's Office

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi  
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand  

Music by: Yehezkel Raz, Stanley Gurvich, and Benjamin Esterlis  
Featured music by: Choir Boy

Patreon Producers: Amy Basil, Dale Akstin, Kendall C, Amelia Hancock, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton Whedon, Jen J, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Manolis Bouloukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Pink, Robin Wolfe, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesday Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Bethany Heintz, Carrie, Emily Paine, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Kathy Nation, Megan Inman, Rene LaPlante, Sabrina Abbot, Spooky, Tori Myers]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65826253Thu, 01 May 2025 14:45:58 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDSteven Lorenzo's residential history leads Josh to Fort Lauderdale, where three gay men disappeared from the same apartment building sixteen years apart. Updates in one of those cases seem to make Lorenzo a very strong suspect. But where was Scott...
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Resources: 

• Florida State University
• NAMUS
• The Charley Project
• American Addiction Centers
• Pink News
• AmFar
• The National Library of Medicine
• The Florida Department of Corrections
• News-Press.com
• Charlotte County Sheriff's Office

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi  
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand  

Music by: Yehezkel Raz, Stanley Gurvich, and Benjamin Esterlis  
Featured music by: Choir Boy

Patreon Producers: Amy Basil, Dale Akstin, Kendall C, Amelia Hancock, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton Whedon, Jen J, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Manolis Bouloukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Pink, Robin Wolfe, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesday Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Bethany Heintz, Carrie, Emily Paine, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Kathy Nation, Megan Inman, Rene LaPlante, Sabrina Abbot, Spooky, Tori Myers]]>2256clean22fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0201-25-men--65693987
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Featuring: 
Albert Perkins 

Resources: 

• NAMUS.gov 
• CharleyProject.org 
• The Tampa Bay Times 
• The Tampa Tribune 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi  
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand  

Music by: Tamuz Dekel, Grissly Bill, and Yehezkel Raz  
Featured music by: TV on the Radio  

Patreon Producers: Amy Basil, Dale Akstin, Kendall C, Amelia Hancock, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton Whedon, Jen J, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Manolis Bouloukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Pink, Robin Wolfe, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesday Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Bethany Heintz, Carrie, Emily Paine, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Kathy Nation, Megan Inman, Rene LaPlante, Sabrina Abbot, Spooky, Tori Myers]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65693987Thu, 24 Apr 2025 11:06:02 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDIn the second season premiere, Josh digs into two years’ of research into the lives and crimes of Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, in hopes of identifying other victims. A list of 25 missing and murdered men, across multiple jursidctions,...
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark 

Featuring: 
Albert Perkins 

Resources: 

• NAMUS.gov 
• CharleyProject.org 
• The Tampa Bay Times 
• The Tampa Tribune 

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi  
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand  

Music by: Tamuz Dekel, Grissly Bill, and Yehezkel Raz  
Featured music by: TV on the Radio  

Patreon Producers: Amy Basil, Dale Akstin, Kendall C, Amelia Hancock, Annette L, Asch Fish, Becky C, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Casey Jensen Richardson, Christina Sisson, Corey Deatly, Drew Vipond, Heather Horton Whedon, Jen J, Jillian Natale, Kathleen Studer, Lana Halladay, Lauren F, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Manolis Bouloukos, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Pink, Robin Wolfe, SC, Shelly Brewer, Sherri D, Trista, Tuesday Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Bethany Heintz, Carrie, Emily Paine, John Comrie, Jordan M, Jordan Taylor, Kate Lussier, Kathy Nation, Megan Inman, Rene LaPlante, Sabrina Abbot, Spooky, Tori Myers]]>2157clean21fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/unsafe-spaces-part-two-a-preview--65350795
Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Featuring: Albert Perkins and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential)
Music by: Neon Ridge]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65350795Fri, 04 Apr 2025 19:00:08 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDUnsafe Spaces returns on April 24. This season, we continue our investigation into Steven Lorenzo and Scott Schweickert, and the missing and murdered men who may be connected to them. Our investigation takes us across the state of Florida, and into...
Written, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark. 
Featuring: Albert Perkins and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential)
Music by: Neon Ridge]]>354clean2trailerhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0107-oh-god--58536314
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Featuring:
Eric Carter-Landin from True Consequences and Crimelines & Consequences
Albert Perkins

Resources:

• Religiosity and Attitudes Toward Lesbians and Gay Men: A Meta-Analysis by Bernard E. Whitley Jr.
• How Religiosity Shapes Rejection of Homosexuals Across the Globe by Dirk-Jan Janssen
• The New York Times
• The Harvard Political Review
• The National Institutes for Health
• The National Institues for Health
• The American Psychological Association
• The Harvard University Press
• The Hill
• The Trevor Project
• The Human Rights Campaign

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Adi Goldstein
Featured music by: Frank Ocean]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58536314Thu, 01 Feb 2024 19:27:14 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDSeason finale. This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark Featuring: Eric Carter-Landin from https://www.trueconsequences.com and https://www.basementfortproductions.com Albert Perkins Resources: -...
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Featuring:
Eric Carter-Landin from True Consequences and Crimelines & Consequences
Albert Perkins

Resources:

• Religiosity and Attitudes Toward Lesbians and Gay Men: A Meta-Analysis by Bernard E. Whitley Jr.
• How Religiosity Shapes Rejection of Homosexuals Across the Globe by Dirk-Jan Janssen
• The New York Times
• The Harvard Political Review
• The National Institutes for Health
• The National Institues for Health
• The American Psychological Association
• The Harvard University Press
• The Hill
• The Trevor Project
• The Human Rights Campaign

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Adi Goldstein
Featured music by: Frank Ocean]]>1694clean1fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/studio-both-and-news-announcements--58504655
This month's news:
• New tours and events
• Unsafe Spaces update
• The Karen & Ellen Letters update
• True Crime Bullsh** update
• New projects
• Our Americana update
• Studio BOTH/AND Launch Party follow-up in The Berkshires this October
• What's happening on Patreon this month

Links:
• True Crime Podcast Festival, use promo code JOSH for 15% off
• Studio BOTH/AND Patreon]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58504655Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:00:02 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDCatch up on all things Studio BOTH/AND for the month of February (and beyond). This month's news: • New tours and events • Unsafe Spaces update • The Karen & Ellen Letters update • True Crime Bullsh** update • New projects • Our Americana...
This month's news:
• New tours and events
• Unsafe Spaces update
• The Karen & Ellen Letters update
• True Crime Bullsh** update
• New projects
• Our Americana update
• Studio BOTH/AND Launch Party follow-up in The Berkshires this October
• What's happening on Patreon this month

Links:
• True Crime Podcast Festival, use promo code JOSH for 15% off
• Studio BOTH/AND Patreon]]>224cleanbonushttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0106-tacit-permissions-behavioral-drifts--58396685Plus: The Warrior gene, behavioral drift, Kanye West, Anita Bryant, and more.

Next episode: 1 February 2024

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Dr. Scott from the LA Not So Confidential podcast

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Color Book, Yehezkel Raz, Adi Goldstein, Infinity Lab, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Perfume Genius]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58396685Thu, 25 Jan 2024 09:00:02 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDTo better understand Lorenzo and Schweickert, their possible other crimes, and their MOs and victimology, Josh chats with clinical psychologist Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential) about killers who work in pairs, BDSM, Antisocial Personality Disorder,...Plus: The Warrior gene, behavioral drift, Kanye West, Anita Bryant, and more.

Next episode: 1 February 2024

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
Featuring: Dr. Scott from the LA Not So Confidential podcast

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Color Book, Yehezkel Raz, Adi Goldstein, Infinity Lab, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Perfume Genius]]>4640clean16fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0105-open-secret--58269395Because by some accounts, investigators and the prosecution were as hard on the survivors as they were Lorenzo himself.

Next episode: 25 January 2024

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Resources:

• Fox 13 Tampa Bay: https://www.fox13news.com/news/nothing-behind-his-eyes-his-face-was-contorted-victim-of-steven-lorenzo-woke-up-panicked
• The Tampa Bay Times: https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2006/01/28/defiant-lorenzo-gets-200-years/
• The Netflix documentary Victim/Suspect: https://www.netflix.com/title/81288561

Featuring:
Albert Perkins

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Circles, Field, Yehezkel Raz, and Ahimsa
Featured music by: Rufus Wainwright]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58269395Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:47:25 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDAt trial and at sentencing, Lorenzo's many surviving victims testified against him, including the impactful statements made by Albert Perkins, who Lorenzo kidnapped and assaulted in February of 2000. The testimony and eventual plea deals made by both...Because by some accounts, investigators and the prosecution were as hard on the survivors as they were Lorenzo himself.

Next episode: 25 January 2024

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark

Resources:

• Fox 13 Tampa Bay: https://www.fox13news.com/news/nothing-behind-his-eyes-his-face-was-contorted-victim-of-steven-lorenzo-woke-up-panicked
• The Tampa Bay Times: https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2006/01/28/defiant-lorenzo-gets-200-years/
• The Netflix documentary Victim/Suspect: https://www.netflix.com/title/81288561

Featuring:
Albert Perkins

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Circles, Field, Yehezkel Raz, and Ahimsa
Featured music by: Rufus Wainwright]]>3648clean15fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0104-it-was-steven--57671503
Unsafe Spaces is on a mid-season break, and will return on January 4.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz

Featuring:
• Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential
• Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Chris Garneau]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57671503Thu, 16 Nov 2023 22:34:07 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDScott Schweickert's house is searched, disturbing photos are found on Steven Lorenzo's computer, more Lorenzo assault victims come forward, someone confesses, and another gay man goes missing. Unsafe Spaces is on a mid-season break, and will return...
Unsafe Spaces is on a mid-season break, and will return on January 4.

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz

Featuring:
• Dr. Scott from LA Not So Confidential
• Drew Mackie from Gayest Episode Ever

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Music by: Evolving Scapes, Grisly Bill, Light in the Shadow, Hynogogia, Yehezkel Raz, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Chris Garneau]]>2269clean14fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0103-it-was-scott--57581286
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Audio editing by Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast)

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott?
• Newspapers.com
• CNN.com
• Equity Florida Action, Inc

Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book
Featured music by: Owen Pallett]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57581286Thu, 09 Nov 2023 17:51:53 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDSteven Lorenzo's friend and accomplice is identified as Scott Schweickert. And the pair's history is revealed through AOL instant messages and a mutual friend. Tampa PD investigate multiple assaults within the Tampa gay community, leading to an arrest...
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Audio editing by Darron Wood (The Defense Diaries podcast)

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• The Tampa Bay Times: Which one is the real Scott?
• Newspapers.com
• CNN.com
• Equity Florida Action, Inc

Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Circles, The Bows, Spiriturn, and Colour Book
Featured music by: Owen Pallett]]>2417clean11fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0102-i-m-gay-i-m-f-cked--57401989

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast)


This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand


Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• The Tampa Bay Times
• Newspapers.com
• The Albuquerque Journal
• Amnesty International


Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis
Featured music by: Jacob Fossum]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57401989Thu, 26 Oct 2023 22:33:45 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDSteven Lorenzo comes to the forefront of Tampa PD's investigation into the disappearance of Jason Galehouse and the death of Michael Wachholtz. Lorenzo's criminal history leads to a sting operation that ends in a very haunting search of his home, and...

This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark
With additional research by: Kaz
Featuring: Jason Leroy (The Binge Movie Podcast)


This is a Studio BOTH/AND production: bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand


Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• The Tampa Bay Times
• Newspapers.com
• The Albuquerque Journal
• Amnesty International


Music by: Yehezkel Rez, Yotam Agam, Theatre of Delays, Grisly Bill, and Benjamin Esterlis
Featured music by: Jacob Fossum]]>2180clean12fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0101-let-s-violate-the-world--57256195
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kaz.
Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential).

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• Clearwater Police Department
• The Tampa Bay Times: 1 2 3

Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Josef Salvat]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57256195Thu, 19 Oct 2023 08:00:03 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDOn December 22, 2003, two gay men were reported missing to Tampa PD. The investigations into their disappearances, would open a Pandora's Box that would force the police, the media, and society to examine how their actions and negligence led to some...
This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
With additional research by: Kaz.
Featuring: Eric Schmidt and Dr. Scott (LA Not So Confidential).

This is a Studio BOTH/AND production:
truecrimebullshit.com / bothand.fyi
For an ad-free experience: patreon.com/studiobothand

Resources include:
• The Charlie Project
• NAMUS
• Uncovered
• Clearwater Police Department
• The Tampa Bay Times: 1 2 3

Music by: Colour Book, Yehezkel Rez, Roniit, Raz Burg, Raz Burg, and Yotam Agam
Featured music by: Josef Salvat]]>2574clean11fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/unsafe-spaces-tampa-s-missing-men-season-one-teaser--56568770
It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing.

And in the wake of a decades-long battle for equality, it was all the more devastating for the gay community to discover: It was one - or maybe even two - of their own who were responsible for what would become some of Florida’s most heinous and disturbed crimes.

Unsafe Spaces continues the style and ambition of host Josh Hallmark's True Crime Bullsh** podcast. It is obsessive, curious, challenging; and examines not just the crimes it covers, but the cultural and political impacts of and on them.

Unsafe Spaces arrives in your podcast feed on October 19th.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56568770Wed, 23 Aug 2023 16:20:10 +0000Studio BOTH/ANDFor close to two decades, gay men in Tampa were disappearing at an alarming rate. It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing. And in the wake...
It was only as America became more accepting of the LGBTQ+ community that people, and the media, actually started to care that these men were missing.

And in the wake of a decades-long battle for equality, it was all the more devastating for the gay community to discover: It was one - or maybe even two - of their own who were responsible for what would become some of Florida’s most heinous and disturbed crimes.

Unsafe Spaces continues the style and ambition of host Josh Hallmark's True Crime Bullsh** podcast. It is obsessive, curious, challenging; and examines not just the crimes it covers, but the cultural and political impacts of and on them.

Unsafe Spaces arrives in your podcast feed on October 19th.]]>108crime,gay,lgbtq,lorenzo,schweikert,serial,tampaclean1trailer