https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-plato-paradigm--5121259
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]]>enPhilosophy© Ivor Ludlam 2026https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/65fa9f2519e00c0ad9fb838d64899391.jpghttps://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-plato-paradigm--5121259Fri, 07 Aug 2026 09:06:00 +0000Ivor LudlamIvor Ludlamplatoparadigm@icloud.comHere I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com/
The resulting analyses may be found at:
https://theplatoparadigm.com

]]>falseepisodichttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0262-menexenus-234b--73108231
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73108231Fri, 07 Aug 2026 09:00:27 +0000Ivor LudlamMenexenus has just come from the bouleuterion (the council house) in the agora, where he has learned that the eulogy over the dead will be delivered by one of two people. Of interest to us is the motive of Menexenus is going to the bouleuterion. Is it...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841archinus,boule,bouleuterion,dio,eulogy,menexenus,rhetoric,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0261-menexenus-234a--73054253Menexenus next, since we've just finished Lysis, in which Menexenus was one of the boys, while here he is a little older. It is unclear how a dialogue which is mostly a sample of a funeral oration delivered by Socrates to Menexenus will support my contention that Platonic dialogues are dramatizations of one or other idea, and it will be particularly interesting if this turns out to be the first dialogue to disprove my hypothesis.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/73054253Fri, 31 Jul 2026 14:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamI've chosen to read Menexenus next, since we've just finished Lysis, in which Menexenus was one of the boys, while here he is a little older. It is unclear how a dialogue which is mostly a sample of a funeral oration delivered by Socrates to Menexenus...Menexenus next, since we've just finished Lysis, in which Menexenus was one of the boys, while here he is a little older. It is unclear how a dialogue which is mostly a sample of a funeral oration delivered by Socrates to Menexenus will support my contention that Platonic dialogues are dramatizations of one or other idea, and it will be particularly interesting if this turns out to be the first dialogue to disprove my hypothesis.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agora,athens,bouleuterion,council,funeral,menexenus,oration,rhetoric,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0260-lysis-conclusions-5-of-5--72546913
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72546913Fri, 24 Jul 2026 09:00:19 +0000Ivor LudlamIf the dialogue is actually a demonstration of aspects of good and apparent good, then what is the function of friendship (philia) in it? I suggest that philia in Lysis serves the same function as justice in Politeia (Republic), as a handy criterion...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841conclusions,deigmata,examples,friendship,good,lysis,philiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0259-lysis-conclusions-4-of-5--72546862
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72546862Fri, 17 Jul 2026 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamThe verbiage in the dialogue hardly represents the best of philosophical argument, but it is an excellent demonstration of the clash between various character types representing aspects of good or apparent good. The attempt is commendable, but not so...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0258-lysis-conclusions-3of-5--72546827
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72546827Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamThe first conversation supposedly on philia which Socrates narrates is with Lysis alone. We actually learn more about Lysis and his alternative approach to being better than others (and therefore apparently good), while Menexenus seems to prefer...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,conclusions,friendship,lysis,philia,skill,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0257-lysis-conclusions-2of-5--72546787
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72546787Fri, 03 Jul 2026 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamThe narrated conversation between Socrates and the boys is in two parts. The second is mainly with Menexenus.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841conclusions,eristics,friendship,lysis,menexenus,philia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0256-lysis-conclusions-1-of-5--72546663
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72546663Fri, 26 Jun 2026 09:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamThe dialogue is traditionally considered to be about friendship. The structure of the dialogue suggests that there is more to it than that. For example, the narrated conversation between Socrates and the boys Lysis and Menexenus is contextualized as a...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841conclusions,eros,friendship,hippothales,lust,lysis,philia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0255-lysis-223a--72472277
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72472277Fri, 19 Jun 2026 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamThe dialogue concludes with Socrates disappointing both his audiences. He suggests to Lysis and Menexenus, his apparent friends, that they are a laughingstock to the others because they do not know what a friend is. As for his unknown audience, who...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841hippothales,lysis,menexenus,paedagog,pedagog,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0254-lysis-222e--72295770
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72295770Fri, 12 Jun 2026 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates gives a summation of the case, as if in a lawcourt, listing all the things which friendship is not. Were the list to be true, we would need to conclude not only that friendship is still undefined, but that it is altogether impossible
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0253-lysis-222d--72168051
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72168051Fri, 05 Jun 2026 09:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamThe boys a.re unchanged by the entire conversation, despite Socrates' attempt to intoxicate them with words. The main problem the boys have is an inability to compare what is being said with what has been said earlier. Politeness is a Good Thing...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathos,friend,good,menexenus,oikeios,philos,proper,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0252-lysis-222c--72031882
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72031882Fri, 29 May 2026 09:00:23 +0000Ivor LudlamMore evidence at the end of the dialogue that the boys are unable to put two thoughts together to create a rational conclusion. They appear not to understand even what "the same" means, let alone what "the proper" means. They return to assumptioms...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841lysis,menexenus,proper,same,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0251-lysis-222c--71977964
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71977964Fri, 22 May 2026 09:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamMusings on a single sentence which may throw light on the entire dialogue. Socrates claims that they are, as it were, drunk by the logos. The need for the strange example earlier on of a dear son who has drunk hemlock being cured by a father with the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841drunk,educat,hemlock,logos,winefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0250-lysis-222a--71906181
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71906181Fri, 15 May 2026 09:00:21 +0000Ivor LudlamAn incautious reader of the dialogue might conclude that the entire discussion between Socrates, Lysis, and Menexenus, is a demonstration for Hippothales' benefit, designed to prove that the one lusted should love the one lusting. Hippothales, at...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841erastes,friend,hippothales,love,lust,lysis,menexenus,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0249-lysis-221e--71775967
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71775967Fri, 08 May 2026 09:00:22 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates finally reaches his sophistic conclusion, unsettling for Lysis, but Menexenus appears blissfully unaware of the implications. What is very clear is that the boys are oblivious to the sophistry itself. It would appear that Socrates' attempt to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841hippothales,lysis,menexenus,socrates,sophistfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0248-lysis-221b--71553563
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71553563Fri, 01 May 2026 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates uses the same terminology from three different arguments to mix and match and thoroughly confuse Menexenus into agreeing that the one who desires someone is that person's friend.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,hippothales,menexenus,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0247-lysis-220e--71209821
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71209821Fri, 24 Apr 2026 09:00:26 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving proved that the target of philia must have the bad present, Socrates now produces a new argument supposedly proving the opposite, that the target of philia need not have the bad in it, especially in the hypothetical situation that the bad does...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,bad,desire,epithumia,eros,friend,good,kakon,lust,menexenus,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0246-lysis-220d--71181593
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71181593Fri, 17 Apr 2026 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamThere is no friendly/dear thing if the truly friendly/dear thing towards which it is friendly/dear does not have in it the bad. This, at least, is a summary of Socrates' summary of the new position on the like being a philon to the like.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,bad,friend,good,kalon,menexenus,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0245-lysis-220a--71069122
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71069122Fri, 10 Apr 2026 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamTo exemplify Socrates' deliberately confusing formula, if we take the son from the last episode, it is only because of the bad (the hemlock) being added to the good (the son), that there becomes a need for the friendly (the things contributing to the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841bad,eristic,friend,good,menexenus,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0244-lysis-219d--71004526
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71004526Fri, 03 Apr 2026 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates develops the possibility that like can actually be friendly to like into a slightly different argument with a somewhat horrific example whereby a father values his son above all other things, but in an emergency supposedly values all the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841cup,friend,hemlock,menexenus,phil,socrates,winefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0243-lysis-219c--70872594
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70872594Fri, 27 Mar 2026 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamNow Socrates considers the case of like being friendly to like - something which was rejected in one of the earlier arguments. Like being friendlly to like allows for a chain of friendly things, all being friendly because of the ultimate reason for...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,like,menexenus,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0242-lysis-219a--70692931
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70692931Fri, 20 Mar 2026 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamBack to the argument concerning the body being a friend of the medical art because of disease. This time, the argument has a new twist. The body is a friend of the friendl medical art because of the hostile disease, but now we also have to deal wtih...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,disease,eristics,health,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0241-lysis-218d--70599647
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70599647Fri, 13 Mar 2026 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates revisits the eristic argument about the neutral body having sickness in it, and it doesn't sound any better this time around.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,health,iatrik,iatros,menexenus,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0240-lysis-218c--70373545
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70373545Fri, 06 Mar 2026 10:00:19 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates expresses dissatisfaction, just when he has led his current audience to think that he has successfully hunted the boys.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eristic,lysis,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0239-lysis-218b--70210430
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70210430Fri, 27 Feb 2026 10:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates is concluding the argument with both boys which combines the arguments he had had with them separately. With Lysis, the Philon is not of like with like, with Menexenus, the Philon is not of opposite with opposite, with both, the Philon is of...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,lysis,menexenos,philon,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0238-lysis-217e--70132342
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70132342Fri, 20 Feb 2026 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates is still developing the notion of two different kinds of agent, one making a thing appear, and another making a thing be. He has moved from the examples of disease in the body and whiteness in hair to ignorance in - we may assume, since he...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agnoia,amathia,expertise,ignorance,philosophize,socrates,sophia,sophosfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0237-lysis-217d--69975534
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69975534Fri, 13 Feb 2026 10:00:15 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates develops his sophistic argument that what is neither one extreme nor its opposite may contain one of the extremes without acquiring the characteristic of that extreme, or indeed may acquire that characteristic. The boys accept everything he...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841phil,socrates,sophistfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0236-lysis-217c--69810825
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69810825Fri, 06 Feb 2026 10:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamA lesson in sophistry. We also learn that Menexenus had brown hair.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841menexenus,socrates,sophistryfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0235-lysis-217a--69664142
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69664142Fri, 30 Jan 2026 10:00:19 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates argues sophistically for the position that what is neither good nor bad is dear to, or conversely a friend of (slipping between philon with dative and genitive), the good. He uses as his example a body, per se neither good nor bad, which with...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,bad,body,disease,good,health,kakon,lysis,menexenus,neutral,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0234-lysis-216d--69380083
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69380083Fri, 23 Jan 2026 10:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates reminds Menexenus that the previous argument has led them to conclude that the friendly is not of like to like or of opposite to opposite, and he proposes that it is neither of like or of opposite. He needs to resort to a particular...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,bad,friend,good,kakon,lysis,phil,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0233-lysis-216d--69287922
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69287922Fri, 16 Jan 2026 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamWith Lysis, Socrates concluded that the friend is not of like to like. With Menexenus, Socrates has concluded that the friend is not of opposite to opposite. It would seem reasonable, then, to suggest that the friend is the good to the neither good...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agatho,fine,friend,good,kalo,menexenus,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0232-lysis-216b--69195724
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69195724Fri, 09 Jan 2026 10:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving argued with Lysis that the friendly is not friendly to its like, and with Menexenus that the friendly is not friendly to its opposite, Socrates proposes (still with Menexenus) what might seem to be an uneristic and therefore more plausible...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agath,bad,eristics,friendly,good,kak,kal,menexenus,middle,opposite,similar,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0231-lysis-215d--68896929
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68896929Fri, 02 Jan 2026 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to develop a highly provocative position he claims to have heard from someone clever, that the most opposite is most friendly to the most opposite, apparently contradicting the earlier claim that like is friendly to like. Menexenus...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841heraclitus,lysis,menexenus,opposite,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0230-lysis-215c--68679259
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68679259Fri, 26 Dec 2025 10:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates provides only an argument from authority for his outrageous claim not only that the same are hostile to the same, but that most hostile are good people to good people. Even the argument from authority is problematic since Socrates...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841hesiod,homoi,lysis,same,similar,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0229-lysis-215a--68473318
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68473318Fri, 19 Dec 2025 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to try to make Lysis think dialectically, but fails miserably. Lysis accepts that the same is useless and not a friend to the same, although the good person is a friend to the good person (this is a contradicton), Once again, it is...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841enemy,friend,hesiod,homoeus,homoios,lysis,same,similar,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0228-lysis-214d--68396009physikoi as claiming that only the similar to the simlar are friends, but if those who are dissimilar in themselves are bad, this means that only the good are friends. Since this doesn't cause Lysis to object, Socrates adds another problem, that the similar add nothing useful to the similar; if another adds nothing useful to oneself, why would one love such a person? The verb phileo (I love) is replaced by agapao (I am affectionate). Agape in modern Greek is the word for love. Philia is now reserved for friendship.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68396009Fri, 12 Dec 2025 10:00:14 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates leads Lysis by the nose, and Lysis does not object. Socrates "interprets" the poet and the physikoi as claiming that only the similar to the simlar are friends, but if those who are dissimilar in themselves are bad, this means that only the...physikoi as claiming that only the similar to the simlar are friends, but if those who are dissimilar in themselves are bad, this means that only the good are friends. Since this doesn't cause Lysis to object, Socrates adds another problem, that the similar add nothing useful to the similar; if another adds nothing useful to oneself, why would one love such a person? The verb phileo (I love) is replaced by agapao (I am affectionate). Agape in modern Greek is the word for love. Philia is now reserved for friendship.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841beneficial,lysis,philia,similar,socrates,usefulfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0227-lysis-214b--68284360
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68284360Fri, 05 Dec 2025 10:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamIf like is friendly to like, what are we to make of bad people?
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friendship,lysis,philia,physikoi,similar,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0226-lysis-213e--68163959
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68163959Fri, 28 Nov 2025 10:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamThe previous section featured a discussion between Socrates and Menexenus asking whether the friend is the loving or the loved. Socrates changes the subject with Lysis to consider whether friends are similar people or opposites,
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,god,lysis,menexenus,physi,poet,same,similar,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0225-lysis-213b--68074009
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68074009Fri, 21 Nov 2025 10:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat was supposed to be an eristic debate designed to embarrass Menexenus turns into an intriguing discussion on friends which leads Lysis to intervene spontaneously and much to his own embarrassment. This is yet again a clear example of Socrates...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841echthros,enemy,friend,lysis,menexenus,philia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0224-lysis-213a--68045772
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68045772Fri, 14 Nov 2025 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamTreating philos as the beloved friend leads to problems easily demonstrated by Ancient Greek usage.While we do not use Ancient Greek, the underlying problems are common to all.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841beloved,echthros,enemy,friend,hostile,menexenus,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0223-lysis-212d--67982906
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67982906Fri, 07 Nov 2025 10:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat was supposed to be an eristic debate has turned into a semi-philosophical enquiry into the nature of a philos ("friend"), being the one who loves or the one being loved, or whether the partners in such a relationsihp in which only one loves are...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841friend,love,menexenus,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0222-lysis-212a--67963332
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67963332Fri, 31 Oct 2025 10:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins what should be an eristic debate. There are some attempts to make it look like an eristic debate, but the options provided allow Menexenus to avoid choosing one or other extreme, and the result of the questioning so far is no more than...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841active,erist,erōs,friend,love,lust,menexenus,passive,philia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0221-lysis-211e--67896106
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67896106Fri, 24 Oct 2025 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamLysis asked Socrates to beat Menexenus in eristic debate, but instead, Socrates declares that he is desirous of acquiring a friend or companion, far more than acquiring a quail, a rooster, a horse and dog, the wealth of Darius, or even Darius himself....
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841companion,ctesippus,erist,friend,hetairos,lysis,menexenus,philia,philos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0220-lysis-211c--67743254
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67743254Fri, 17 Oct 2025 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates seems to be going ahead with Lysis' request to beat Menexenus in eristic debate. He is taking time to set it up, ensuring that he appears to be the underdog, pretending to complain that Menexenus is sitting with his "teacher" Ctesippus, his...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,dialectic,eristic,hippothales,lysis,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0219-lysis-211a--67716685
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67716685Fri, 10 Oct 2025 09:00:20 +0000Ivor LudlamLysis and Socrates continue to whisper to each other, and Lysis turns the future conversstion away from himself into an eristic match to defeat his friend Menexenus.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,eristic,euthydemus,lysis,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0218-lysis-210e--67686474
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67686474Fri, 03 Oct 2025 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamHippothales, hiding close to Lysis and Socrates, becomes the focus of attention. It is unusual in a Platonic dialogue for a non-participant in a conversation to be noticed during the conversation. Socrates even states what he would have said to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,dial,dialectic,dialegesthai,dialogos,hippothales,lysis,menexenus,philia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0217-lysis-210c--67643750
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67643750Fri, 26 Sep 2025 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates uses the answers of Lysis himself to prove (albeit sophistically) that Lysis shouldn't complain about his lowly status iin crafts where he is incompetent, It is not claer to me that Lysis had been complaining about this, since he had earlier...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841lysis,socrates,wordplayfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0216-lysis-210a--67561349argumenta ad absurdum.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67561349Fri, 19 Sep 2025 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamLysis is either a megalomaniac psychopath or possibly a young boy who is not quite grasping. the import of what he is agreeing to. He agrees with Socrtes that he should be entrusted by all and sundry around the world with any technē at which he is...argumenta ad absurdum.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841absurdum,lysis,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0215-lysis-209d--67486934
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67486934Fri, 12 Sep 2025 09:00:19 +0000Ivor LudlamUnder questioning, Lysis has been primed to think that being ruled by slaves and hired professionals in technai where he is incompetent is restrictive, while being entrusted to read and write for his parents, in the technai of reading and writing,...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841basileus,great,king,lysis,megas,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0214-lysis-209b--67466325
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67466325Fri, 05 Sep 2025 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamLysis realizes that he is ruled and restricted by slaves, hired professionals, and his mother, in those arts and crafts (technai) where he does not yet understand. However, his parents allow him to read and write because he understands the technai of...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841basileus,control,lysis,megas,rule,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0213-lysis-208d--67364984
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67364984Fri, 29 Aug 2025 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamEven the parents of Lysis restrict his desires to technai where he is competent, but there he is allowed to do whatever he wishes, so Socrates pretends to infer.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841literacy,lyre,lysis,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0212-lysis-207e--67340625
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67340625Fri, 22 Aug 2025 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates' line of questioning establishes that Lysis is prevented by his parents, who love him very much, from doing whatever he desires. Even slaves are put in charge of him. We should remember that Hippothales is listening to this as a lesson in how...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841desire,epithumia,love,lysis,philia,rule,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0211-lysis-207d--67298888
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67298888Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:00:15 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins his interrogation of Lysis. He had been considering asking Lysis and Menexenusk, before the latter left, which of them was more just and expert, but now with Lysis alone, Socrates asks him about his parents' treatment of him.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841lysis,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0210-lysis-207c--67245887
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67245887Fri, 08 Aug 2025 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamMenexenus leaves the conversation, leaving Lysis at the mercy of Socrates, Ctesippus, and the many onlookers, including Hippothales who still hopes to learn how to speak to his lust object without repelling him.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841lysis,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0209-lysis-206e--67173710
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67173710Fri, 01 Aug 2025 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamStage directions about who sits or stands where for the conversation between Socrates, Menexenus, and Lysis
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,hippothales,lysis,menexenus,palaestra,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0208-lysis-206d--67070470
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67070470Fri, 25 Jul 2025 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates innocently describes the scene as he and Ctesippus, followed by the others, enter the palaestra.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,hermaea,knucklebones,palaestra,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0207-lysis-206b--66998123
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66998123Fri, 18 Jul 2025 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates promises.to demonstrate to Hippothales how to speak to one's lust object in a way which will attract rather than repel. Hippithales is. deviously inventive when it comes to helping Socrates talk to Lysis, enlisting the aid of Ctesippus and...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,eros,hippothales,lust,lysis,manipulation,menexenus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0206-lysis-205d--66860391
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66860391Fri, 11 Jul 2025 09:00:18 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates criticizes Hippothales for his speeches and songs, but not for the right reason.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841encomium,hippothales,lysis,manipulation,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0205-lysis-205a--66591126
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66591126Fri, 04 Jul 2025 09:00:17 +0000Ivor LudlamCtesippus describes to Socrates the sort of ridiculous praise his friend Hippothales has been directing at Lysis. It turns out that Hippothales is not in fact praising Lysis.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,democrates,encomium,eros,heracles,hercules,hippothales,lust,lysis,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0204-lysis-204e--66439833
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66439833Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamWe learn some more about Lysis, the formal subject of this part of the conversation. Lysis is the son of Democrates of the deme Aixone, so he is of an aristocratic family. He seems to have it all - looks, wealth, status, reputation, and a course in...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,democrates,eidos,hippothales,lysis,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0203-lysis-204c--66380941
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66380941Fri, 20 Jun 2025 09:00:14 +0000Ivor LudlamCtesippus enters the chat. He informs Socrates that Hippothales is so obsessed with Lysis that he is an annoyance to Ctesippus and the others of their age group.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ctesippus,eros,hippothales,lust,lysis,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0202-lysis-204a--66363453
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66363453Fri, 13 Jun 2025 09:00:16 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates, using his god-given gift to recognize lusters and lusted, quickly ascertains that Hippothales is lusting after a younger boy in the wrestling school. Socrates' profession of ignorance with regard to all other things should be taken with a...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eros,hippothales,ignorance,lust,mikkos,palaestra,projection,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0201-lysis-203a--66348706
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66348706Fri, 06 Jun 2025 09:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamThe youths, including Hippothales and Ctesippus, are assmbled outside of a palaestra, where they spend time in words. During this introductory chat we come to appreciate one feature of Socratic dialectic, namely how Plato's Socrates sets up...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841academy,hippothales,lyceum,palaestra,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0200-lysis-203a--66293139
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66293139Fri, 30 May 2025 09:00:15 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates says he was walking from Academy straight to Lyceum, but on the way encountered a crowd of youths. Is he about to be mugged under the city wall of Athens?
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841academy,athens,lyceum,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0199-io-conclusions-2-of-2--66104528I have not speculated in the podcast, but Plato may have written this dialogue with some of his own students in mind. Plato was considered divine by many people, and Plato's Socrates emphasizes that divinely inspired authors lack intelligence. An interpreter of Plato's dialogues is like the rhapsode, probably even learning the dialogues by heart, which might make such a Platonist feel that he knows more than he really does. This dialogue may well have given such an interpreter pause for thought.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66104528Fri, 23 May 2025 09:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates conceals his dialectic exercise with rhetoric and even eristics in an attempt to make Io, who enjoys listening to sophists (he says "you sophoi"), and consequently nice rhetorical stories such as the magnet analogy, actually consider what his...I have not speculated in the podcast, but Plato may have written this dialogue with some of his own students in mind. Plato was considered divine by many people, and Plato's Socrates emphasizes that divinely inspired authors lack intelligence. An interpreter of Plato's dialogues is like the rhapsode, probably even learning the dialogues by heart, which might make such a Platonist feel that he knows more than he really does. This dialogue may well have given such an interpreter pause for thought.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,homer,io,poetry,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0198-io-conclusions-1-of-2--66104268
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66104268Fri, 16 May 2025 09:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat the dialogue is not about.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,io,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0197-io-542a--65881733
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65881733Fri, 09 May 2025 09:00:14 +0000Ivor LudlamIn this final section of the dialogue, Socrates provides Io with two options. Either Io has techne and refuses to divulge his sophia to Socrates, and is therefore doing wrong, or he has no techne but is divinely inspired. Should he choose to be...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841divine,io,moira,rhapsod,socrates,techne,theiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0196-io-541e--65822812
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65822812Fri, 02 May 2025 09:00:19 +0000Ivor LudlamSocratae, beginning his concluding remarks, presents the first of his two options for Io. Accordinng to this first option, Io is doing Socrates wrong by purposely shapeshifting in order to avoid revealing how clever he is with regard to the sophia of...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,proteus,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0195-io-541c--65634774
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65634774Fri, 25 Apr 2025 09:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates finishes off the argument refuting Io's claim that he is a general, let alone a good general, incidentally revealing that the dramatic date of the dialogue is around 413 BC, after the disastrous Athenian campaign against Syracuse.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,socrates,strategos,xenosfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0194-io-541b--65592449
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65592449Fri, 18 Apr 2025 09:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins dismantling Io's claim that he has a techne common to rhapsodes and generals. Io accepts that he is the best rhapsode and the best general, but he cannot accept that any general is also a rhapsode, for the very good reason, I suggest,...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841general,io,rhapsod,socrates,strategos,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0193-io-540e--65368276
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65368276Fri, 11 Apr 2025 09:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving essentially agreed (in not so many words) that each techne has exclusive subject matter, it is perhaps surprising that Io remains steadfast over his claim that the rhapsode and the strategos share the same techne.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0192-io-540d--65156567
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65156567Fri, 04 Apr 2025 09:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamIo had been forced to narrow the rhapsode's expertise down to knowing what sort of things it would be fitting for different types of people to say, ,such as a man, a woman, a slave or a ruler, rather than any type of craftsman. However, Socrates has...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,rhapsod,socrates,strateg,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0191-io-540b--65032166
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65032166Fri, 28 Mar 2025 09:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamIo misspoke when he formulated the rhapsode's techne as the ability to know the sort of things any type of person should say. It is easy for Socrates to make Io admit that craftsmen of all other crafts will say things connected to their crafts more...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0190-io-539d--64839719
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64839719Fri, 21 Mar 2025 10:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat began as a question over who can judge better when Homer is speaking well has recently become a question of which techne is better suited to judge the subject matter of the poem. In every case, the professional associated with the subject matter...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,io,memory,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0189-io-539b--64763553
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64763553Fri, 14 Mar 2025 10:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates quotes another Homeric example of the mantike techne (the craft of the seer). Unlike the first example, a prophecy, the.second example is an omen.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eagle,io,mantis,rhapsod,snake,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0188-io-538c--64710440
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64710440Fri, 07 Mar 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates adds to the medical quote from Homer a quote from the techne (craft) of fishing, and another from the craft of divination. It still appears to Io that professionals rather than a rhapsode would be able to better judge whether Homer speaks...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841divination,fishing,io,mantis,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0187-io-538b--64561382
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64561382Fri, 28 Feb 2025 10:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates makes a meal of the refutation. One point I don't discuss in the podcast is why a charioteer would want to judge a poet anyway, and the question may be directed at the judging of rhapsodes in competitions. What exactly is being judged? Their...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841chariot,io,physician,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0186-io-538a--64405178
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64405178Fri, 21 Feb 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates is still sophistically establishing the exclusivity of the subject matter of a craft, such that the subject matter of one techne cannot be the subject matter of another techne.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0185-io-537d--64371198
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64371198Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSpcrates continues developing his sophistic argument which will eventually lead to yet another proof that rhapsody is not a techne (craft or skill). We two use the same skill concerning the same content, such as knowing that Socrates is holding up...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,socrates,sophist,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0184-io-537b--64130750
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64130750Fri, 07 Feb 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates' apparently dialectical elenchus turns out to be more of a sophistic exercise with the foregone false conclusion that only a charioteer (having the techne of chariot racing) would understand what Homer says about chariot racing. Not only are...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841chariot,doctor,homer,io,navig,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0183-io-536e--64073829
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64073829Fri, 31 Jan 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamWhile the four rhetorical arguments to prove that Io lacked techne and nous at the moment he delivered well the best of Homer were, according to Io, spoken well, they were not convincinng. Socrates changes tack, deciding to stop arguing to persuade in...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841chariot,dialectic,io,rhapsod,rhetoric,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0182-io-536d--63782005
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63782005Fri, 24 Jan 2025 10:00:11 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates' four analogies supporting his claim that Io lacks techne, nous, or episteme whenever he performs the best of Homer's poems, is easily dismissed by Io who appreciates Socrates' rhetoric, but remains unconvinced by it. He observes that...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841homer,io,rhapsod,rhetoric,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0181-io-536b--63723028
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63723028Fri, 17 Jan 2025 10:00:10 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates completes his fourth analogy illustrating why rhapsodes lack techne and episteme when performing a poet's best poems in the best way possible. This time, very little of substance seems to have been added to the original magnet analogy....
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841calliope,episteme,io,magnet,rhapsode,ring,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0180-io-535e--63605357
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63605357Fri, 10 Jan 2025 10:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamPurportedly to explain why even the emotions instilled in the spectator are not due to the skill of the rhapsode, the fourth analogy is a refinement of the first analogy about magnets. Instead of a magnet attracting many rings which in turn attract...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841homer,interpreter,io,magnet,musaios,muse,orpheus,poet,rhapsode,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0179-io-535d--63524783
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63524783Fri, 03 Jan 2025 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamNow that Io has agreed that he is affected by the poetry he declaims, Socrates asks whether the audience is similarly affected, and Io makes it clear that it is his job to know that they are.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841fear,io,rhapsode,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0178-io-535b--63446567
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63446567Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving shown to Io's delight with three examples why poets lack techne, Socrates begins to interrogate Io in order to determine that rhapsodes also lack techne. The reason for rhapsodes lacking techne differs from the reasons Socrates ascribed to the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841character,fear,iliad,io,odyssey,pity,rhapsode,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0177-io-534e--63188140
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63188140Fri, 20 Dec 2024 10:00:10 +0000Ivor LudlamMy final thoughts on the three analogies concerning the mindlessness of poets producing good poetry. Socrates then returns to the rhapsodes who are interpreters of interpreters, given that poets are interpreters (or expounders of expounders - hermenes...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841hermen,interpret,io,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0176-io-534d--63072467
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63072467Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:05:06 +0000Ivor LudlamOstensibly to prove the third claim regarding the lack of intelligence of poets at the time of performing a poem, Socrates adduces the famous example of an otherwise worthless poet whose paeon is widely considered to be the best of lyric poetry....
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841inspir,io,paeon,poet,proph,socrates,tynnichusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0175-io-534b--62785301
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62785301Fri, 06 Dec 2024 10:00:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates adds a third reason for the poets' lack of intelligence, inconsistent with the other two reasons.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841intelligence,io,nous,poet,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0174-io-534a--62674746
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62674746Fri, 29 Nov 2024 10:00:10 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates makes some interesting wordplays and confusions between the two analogies - the magnet and the bees. Io does not react. As he said earlier, he enjoys listening to "you sophoi". Socrates has contrasted an accurate but prosaic analogy with a...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841analogy,bee,io,magnet,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0173-io-533e--62640272
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62640272Fri, 22 Nov 2024 10:00:11 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues telling Io about the divine power, this time using the analogy of bees spreading honey.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841bee,divine,dunamis,dynamis,io,power,socrates,techne,theiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0172-io-533c--62640237
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62640237Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamThe alternative to Io having a techne is that he is possessed by a divine power. Socrates first uses the magnet analogy.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841divine,dunamis,dynamis,io,power,socrates,techne,theiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0171-io-533c--62541151
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62541151Fri, 08 Nov 2024 10:00:06 +0000Ivor LudlamIo seems almost to challenge Socrates to tell him why he is exceptional as someone with a techne, in that he can talk well only about one practitioner of his techne, although Socrates' last example implies that Io does not have Homer's techne. The...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841io,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0170-io-533a--62491484
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62491484Fri, 01 Nov 2024 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates appears to perform a normal sequence of induction, but things are not quite what they seem.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841induction,io,socrates,techfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0169-io-532d--62408056
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62408056Fri, 25 Oct 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamTo exemplify the point that any techne deals with the whole of the field of that techne, Socrates refers to graphike techne, meaning here just painting. Socrates proceeds, however, to talk about the critic of one artist needing to be able to criticize...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,craft,drafting,graphike,io,painting,skill,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0168-io-532c--62041948
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62041948Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:00:08 +0000Ivor LudlamThe rhapsode Io can judge of the poets both who speaks well and who speaks less well since he has the appropriate techne, but in the next breath Socrates determines that Io can't judge anyone, even Homer, since he lacks techne and episteme. Even more...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,craft,episteme,homer,io,knowledge,rhapsod,skill,socrates,techne,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0167-io-532a--62010472
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62010472Fri, 11 Oct 2024 09:00:12 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates concludes from the examples with arithmetic and medicine that the one who has a techne in a subject is the one who may recognize the one speaking well in the subject and the ones speaking badly (later in the argument, worse = less well), so...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841homer,io,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0166-io-531d--61727931
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61727931Fri, 04 Oct 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates steers the conversation back to the subject matter by asking who will recognize who speaks well or badly in arithmetic and in medicine. The answer is that the one who has the techne (craft / art) of arithmetic or medicine is the one who will...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arithm,iatrik,iatros,io,physician,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0165-io-531b--61334763
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61334763Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:00:08 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates does dialectic "badly" (as usual), failing to compare and contrast clearly and concisely. He allows Io to revert to an aesthetic understanding of Homer more than once.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841hesiod,homer,io,mantis,prophet,rhapsod,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0164-io-530d--61282492
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61282492Fri, 20 Sep 2024 09:00:06 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates and Io are already talking at cross-purposes. Socrates appears to want to talk about the rhapsode's ability (as part of his techne) to understand the intent (dianoia) of a poet, while Io states that it is the hardest part of the techne to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841homer,io,rhapsod,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0163-io-530c--61240569
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61240569Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:00:06 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates concentrates his supposed envy of rhapsodes on their ability to understand the poet. Apart from the verb "to understand", he also uses the noun "dianoia", which I translate as "intent" or "intention". Io understands Socrates to mean what he...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dianoia,intent,io,rhapsod,socrates,thoughtfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0162-io-530a--61169034
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61169034Fri, 06 Sep 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamThe dialogue Io is very short but still not well understood. All agree that Socrates is talking to a rhapsode. The conversation is simple but Plato's intent is not obvious.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ephesus,epidaurus,io,rhapsod,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0161-meno-conclusions-5-of-5--61029316
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61029316Fri, 30 Aug 2024 09:00:06 +0000Ivor LudlamWe are finally in a position to uncover the underlying concept or idea of the dialogue which is dramatized as it is and as it appears to be (correctly, to a dialectical reader, and incorrectly to the Many) in every aspect of the dialogue. Just as in...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,anytus,arete,craft,doxa,empeiria,episteme,experience,gorgias,knowledge,memory,meno,mneme,opinion,recollection,socrates,techne,theognis,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0160-meno-conclusions-4-of-5--61014971
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61014971Fri, 23 Aug 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamThe deigmata (examples).
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,anytus,craft,empeiria,experience,gorgias,horsemen,memory,meno,mneme,skill,slave,socrates,techne,theognis,thessalianfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0159-meno-conclusions-3-of-5--60897889
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60897889Fri, 16 Aug 2024 09:00:14 +0000Ivor LudlamWe look at the various characters in the dialogue, so consistent that they may be regarded as models: Meno, Socrates, Anytus (based on a character in Theognis), Gorgias, Meno's slave. They seem to have features in common, but we still cannot see the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,doxa,episteme,gorgias,knowledge,meno,opinion,slave,socrates,teach,understand,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0158-meno-conclusions-2-of-5--60897436
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60897436Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:00:11 +0000Ivor LudlamThis is the second part of the overview of the dialogue Meno. Once again, we see that nothing actually said should be taken as the words of Plato himself, and that the philosophy must be found in what is more consistent in the dialogue, namely the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,doxa,episteme,gorgias,meno,slave,socrates,theognis,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0157-meno-conclusions-1-of-5--60889434
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60889434Fri, 02 Aug 2024 09:00:08 +0000Ivor LudlamThis and the following podcast provide a brief summary of the dialogue Meno, emphasizing the lack of philosophical content in what is said. To put it another way, the philosophy of Plato is not to be found in the words spoken by the characters. We...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,dialectic,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0156-a-paradigm-recap--60805230
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60805230Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:00:09 +0000Ivor LudlamBefore reaching conclusions regarding the dialogue Meno, I thought it would be helpful to provide an overview of the general structure of a Platonic dialogue (at least, of the ones I have analysed), with the aid of the examples of Euthyphro, Hippias...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841deigma,example,idea,paradeigma,paradigmfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0155-meno-100a--60749709Who would be the politikos who could make another person politikos?  If reasoning has led to the fourth option proposed by Socrates, is it not episteme, and if so, why should it be reexamined? Socrates leaves Meno with an outline of the dialectic method.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60749709Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:31:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe end! Who would be the politikos who could make another person politikos?  If reasoning has led to the fourth option proposed by Socrates, is it not episteme, and if so, why should it be reexamined? Socrates leaves Meno with an outline of the...Who would be the politikos who could make another person politikos?  If reasoning has led to the fourth option proposed by Socrates, is it not episteme, and if so, why should it be reexamined? Socrates leaves Meno with an outline of the dialectic method.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,meno,socrates,tiresiasfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0154-meno-99e--60676315
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60676315Fri, 12 Jul 2024 18:08:15 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates provides Meno with a new answer to the question asked by Meno at the beginning of the dialogue. Virtue comes to people through divine lot.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841divine,lot,meno,moira,portion,socrates,theiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0153-meno-99d--60608083
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60608083Fri, 05 Jul 2024 10:43:14 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat is the significance of good politicians being called divine? Why does it matter that not only women but also Spartan men think this way? We find out that all through Socrates' unflattering portrayal of good politicians as people lacking sense,...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,divine,episteme,knowledge,meno,socrates,theios,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0152-meno-99c--60530578
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60530578Fri, 28 Jun 2024 09:00:09 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues his attempts to make Meno think even while leading up to his grand conclusion. Politicians don't understand what they are talking about. This is a given. However, Socrates is supposed to be demonstrating that they have true opinion...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841apollo,doxa,episteme,god,knowledge,meno,opinion,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0151-meno-99c--60453848
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60453848Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins his last attempt to shock Meno into reacting to the ramifications of his own opinions and assumptions. If Meno is now happy that virtue not a knowledge (episteme) since there are no teachers of it (this itself is a false premise), then...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,doxa,episteme,eudoxia,knowledge,meno,opinion,socrates,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0150-meno-99a--60366586
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60366586Fri, 14 Jun 2024 09:00:09 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates concludes the confused summary of the arguments since the hypothesis that virtue is something teachable by setting up episteme and orthe doxa as the two things which lead well and beneficially,  only. to eliminate episteme on the specious...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841doxa,episteme,eudoxia,knowledge,meno,opinion,reputation,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0149-meno-98d--60310326
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60310326Fri, 07 Jun 2024 12:21:42 +0000Ivor LudlamNearing the very end of the conversation, Socrates tries one last time to cause Meno to recollect, by seriously conflating and confusing 1. a summary of the hypothesis that virtue is teachable and 2. the discussion about understanding and true...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,arete,doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,opinion,recollection,socrates,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0148-meno-98c--60171699
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60171699Fri, 31 May 2024 09:00:08 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to dwell on the similarities between episteme and orthe doxa - they are both good, and therefore beneficial, as are the men who have either of them. Socrates proceeds to recap the discussion from the time Meno gave up answering the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,opinion,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0147-meno-98b--60043349
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60043349Fri, 24 May 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamI discuss the difference between correct opinion (orthē doxa) and understanding/knowledge (epistēmē), explaining why only understanding/knowledge is useful. Socrates, for his part, asserts his true belief that correct opinion is no worse than...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,opinion,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0146-meno-97e--59915463
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59915463Fri, 17 May 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates uses the statues of Daedalus as a way to explain to Meno how opinions (doxai) differ from pieces of knowledge (epistemai). One episteme, according to this account, is one doxa bound by "a reasoning of cause" (aitias logismos). Socrates...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,opinion,recollection,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0145-meno-97d--59814381
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59814381Fri, 10 May 2024 09:00:07 +0000Ivor LudlamCorrect opinion (orthē doxa) and knowledge (epistēmē) are slightly distinguished by me, if not by the conversation between Socrates and Meno.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841doxa,episteme,knowledge,larissa,meno,opinion,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0144-meno-97c--59580257
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59580257Fri, 03 May 2024 09:00:05 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno wonders why people regard knowledge as so much more valuable than opinion, given that correct opinion leads to the same results as knowledge.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841doxa,episteme,knowledge,larissa,meno,opinion,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0143-meno-97a--59500890
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59500890Fri, 26 Apr 2024 09:00:06 +0000Ivor LudlamThe infamous road to Larissa argument supporting the notion that orthodoxy (correct opinion) is as beneficial as knowledge, given that it leads to the same destination.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,correct,doxa,larissa,meno,opinion,orthe,right,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0142-meno-96e--59451248
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59451248Fri, 19 Apr 2024 09:00:05 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates tests Meno's ability to remember or "recollect" previous arguments in the conversation, but Meno is blissfully unaware of all the outrageous distortions Socrates perpetrates. Then it was prudence (phronesis) which was the guiding principle...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,episteme,knowledge,meno,phron,prudence,prudent,socrates,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0141-meno-96d--59425039
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59425039Fri, 12 Apr 2024 09:00:04 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates having established that there are no teachers or students of virtue, Meno wonders whether there are any good men at all, or if there are good men,  how they come about. It is the second question which Socrates begins to answer by returning to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,episteme,meno,socrates,teach,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0140-meno-96a--59282541
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59282541Fri, 05 Apr 2024 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates finally concludes his argument demonstrating that neither sophists nor the "fine and good" think that virtue is something teachable. The number of times he asks Meno versions of this question throughout the argument suggests that Socrates...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,dida,meno,socrates,teach,theognis,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0139-meno-95e--59221778
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59221778Fri, 29 Mar 2024 18:24:46 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates concludes his quotations from Theognis, overtly to demonstrate that even an individual can believe that virtue is something teachable, but then (in the same poem), that virtue is not teachable. Apart from this point being philosophically...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,dida,meno,socrates,teach,theognis,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0138-meno-95c--59147616
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59147616Sat, 23 Mar 2024 15:43:21 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates carries on the discussion about teachers of virtue by returning to the question whether virtue is teachable. Meno and the other politikoi are not alone in wavering on the question, since even Theognis contradicts himself in this very matter.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,didakt,meno,socrates,teach,theognis,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0137-meno-95b--59059787
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59059787Fri, 15 Mar 2024 17:17:00 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues interrogating Meno about virtue being something teachable. Having agreed that virtue is not something teachable if the teachers of it disagree, and then Meno himself having shown that the sophists disagree among themselves, Meno...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,didask,gorgias,meno,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0136-meno-95a--58935543
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58935543Fri, 08 Mar 2024 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamAnytus has just left, and Socrates and Meno are now free to say what they like about him. Socrates continues his demonstration that virtue is not something teachable, given that there are no teachers of it, as appears evident from his discussion with...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,didask,meno,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0135-meno-94e--58893294
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58893294Fri, 01 Mar 2024 21:15:20 +0000Ivor LudlamAnytus leaves with a scarcely veiled threat that Socrates will get himself into trouble if he keeps badmouthing people. This is not so important as the fact that he is exemplifying what he said earlier about decent Athenian citizens making better...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0134-meno-93e--58802058
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58802058Fri, 23 Feb 2024 21:05:01 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates demonstrates to Anytus inductively that that virtue of the Athenian citizen qua Athenian citizen is not something teachable. Themistocles, Aristides, Pericles, and Thucydides are all shown to have wanted to educate their sons, and that their...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,aristides,didask,meno,pericles,socrates,teach,themistocles,thucydides,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0133-meno-93b--58710433
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58710433Fri, 16 Feb 2024 20:27:36 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins to test Anytus' claim that any decent Athenian citizen can teach his own virtue (arete). He ensures that Anytus thinks Themistocles is a good Athenian citizen before asking him whether he taught his virtue to his son, Cleophontus.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathos,anytus,arete,cleophontus,craft,didask,good,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0132-meno-92e--58622828
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58622828Fri, 09 Feb 2024 13:26:30 +0000Ivor LudlamAnytus claims that decent ("fine and good") Athenians learn their virtue from earlier decent Athenians.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,athen,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0131-meno-92c--58554276
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58554276Sat, 03 Feb 2024 12:38:45 +0000Ivor LudlamAnytus rejects sophists as teachers of his arete, and points instead to decent Athenian citizens, any of whom could teach Meno to be better.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,athenian,citizen,meno,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0130-meno-92a--58464223
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58464223Fri, 26 Jan 2024 19:52:19 +0000Ivor LudlamIt turns out that Anytus has no experience of sophists yet dislikes them all the same. Prompted by Socrates, Anytus states that the sophists aren't mad (presumably. because they make money out of deceiving people), but the youths who study with them...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,doxa,episteme,knowledge,opinion,socrates,sophist,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0129-meno-91c--58380430
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58380430Sat, 20 Jan 2024 13:25:41 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates effectively points out to Anytus that objecting to the sophists does not follow from the criteria they had agreed upon for a good teacher. They profess to teach, and they make lots of money from teaching, indicating that they have many...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,asebeia,immorality,irreverence,meno,pheidias,phidias,protagoras,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0128-meno-91a--58283126
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58283126Fri, 12 Jan 2024 21:25:31 +0000Ivor LudlamAnytus is shocked to discover that Socrates thinks sophists are the people Meno should be sent to in. order to become virtuous like Anytus.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,meno,socrates,sophist,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0127-meno-90e--58149788
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58149788Fri, 05 Jan 2024 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates has manoeuvred Anytus into agreeing that they should be looking for someone who claims to be able to teach the techne Meno wants to learn, and who already makes money from teaching that techne. Socrates equates sophia with arete and states...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,didask,meno,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0126-meno-90c--58085362
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58085362Fri, 29 Dec 2023 10:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates suggests two criteria required to determine who are teachers worth sending Meno to. Anytus agrees to teachers being those: A. having a techne, B. making money. from the techne - but also A. promising to teach a techne, B. making money. from...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,didask,meno,socrates,teachfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0125-meno-90a--58028103
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58028103Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins his conversation with Anytus, with the overt purpose of searching for teachers of virtue. The sequence of questions follows the pattern "To become a good craftsman should one be sent to the craftsmen?", which at first sight is an odd...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anytus,arete,didaskalos,ismenias,meno,socrates,teacher,techne,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0124-meno-89e--57940573
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57940573Fri, 15 Dec 2023 10:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates bemoans his failure to find a teacher of virtue. As luck would have it, Meno's host in Athens, Anytus, has just sat down with them, and Socrates begins to explain why Anytus will be able to help them. The father of Anytus, Anthemion, became...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anthemion,anytus,arete,host,ismenias,meno,socrates,teach,virtue,xenosfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0123-meno-89d--57917397
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57917397Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates pretends to suspect that virtue is not episteme (knowledge, understanding) because any episteme of anything requires the presence of teachers and students. Meno accepts this fallacy but questions whether there seem to Socrates to be no...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,didakton,didaskal,mathet,meno,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0122-meno-89c--57849017
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57849017Fri, 01 Dec 2023 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates and Meno finally come to end of the argument following the hypothesis that virtue is teachable.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,didakton,episteme,hypothesis,knowledge,meno,socrates,teachable,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0121-meno-89a--57764625
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57764625Fri, 24 Nov 2023 10:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamPrudence (phronēsis) is found to be all or part of virtue (aretē). Given that this has followed from the hypothesis that virtue is teachable, it would seem that phronēsis does not come to people by nature. Socrates supports this conclusion with...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathoi,agathos,arete,good,learning,mathesis,meno,nature,phronesis,physis,prudence,socrates,teachable,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0120-meno-88d--57623633
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57623633Fri, 17 Nov 2023 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe argument following the hypothesis continues. Socrates arrives at the formulation that the intelligent soul uses things correctly, while the untintelligent soul uses things mistakenly. After this high point the argument once again deteriorates into...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841correct,hypothesis,meno,orthos,phronesis,prudence,right,socrates,usefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0119-meno-88c--57581462
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57581462Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamPhronesis (prudence) is regarded by some Greek philosophers as virtue itself, with the cardinal virtues being aspects of it. Phronesis in this argument is presented as an addition to the virtues, in keeping with Meno's inability to think abstractly....
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

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https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,meno,phronesis,prudence,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0118-meno-88a--57420663
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57420663Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to explore the ramifications of the hypothesis that virtue, if teachable, would be an episteme (knowledge/understanding). Following the concluson that good things such as health, wealth, strength, and beauty are beneficial ony when...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841andreia,arete,cardinal,courage,dikaiosyne,hypothesis,justice,meno,phronesis,prudence,socrates,sophrosyne,soundmindedness,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0117-meno-87c--57353029
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57353029Fri, 27 Oct 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamHere is the hypothesis: If virtue is some sort of knowledge, it will be teachable. Since virtue is also a good thing (it isn't - it is simply the characteristic of good things, just as bravery is the characteristic of brave things), if we find that...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,arete,beneficial,good,hypothesis,meno,ophelimon,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0116-meno-87b--57234998
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57234998Fri, 20 Oct 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates applies the hypothetical method to virtue. If virtue is something like episteme (knowledge, understanding), then it is teachable or recollectable. Meno enthusiastically agrees that nothing is taught other than episteme.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,anamneston,arete,didakton,episteme,hypothesis,knowledge,meno,recollectable,recollection,socrates,teachable,understanding,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0115-meno-86d--57144745
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57144745Fri, 13 Oct 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno has once again avoided saying what virtue is, this time by reverting to his original question, what sort of thing Socrates thinks virtue is, although this time omitting the option that it is exercisable. Socrates is faced with the dilemma of...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,attribute,definition,essence,geometry,hypothesis,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0114-meno-86b--56723746
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56723746Fri, 06 Oct 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates has finally broken the impasse (or rather, Meno has allowed the impasse to be broken, somehow - he's not sure how it happened). Now Meno is excited to get back to searching along with Socrates what virtue is. Or actually, he'd rather hear...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,meno,natural,socrates,sophist,teachable,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0113-meno-85d--56636340The demonstration - (post mortem, part 2):

Socrates continues his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Meno is satisfied that Socrates has proved his point, although, as he says at the end, he doesn't know how.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56636340Fri, 29 Sep 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 13: The demonstration - (post mortem, part 2): Socrates continues his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Meno is...The demonstration - (post mortem, part 2):

Socrates continues his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Meno is satisfied that Socrates has proved his point, although, as he says at the end, he doesn't know how.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,opinion,recollection,socrates,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0112-meno-85b--56604054The demonstration - (post mortem):

Socrates begins his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Socrates must be extremely disappointed that Meno and all those lurking Platonists fail to react to any of the deliberate inconsistencies. He'll have to try harder next time (and he does).

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56604054Fri, 22 Sep 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 12: The demonstration - (post mortem): Socrates begins his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Socrates must be extremely...The demonstration - (post mortem):

Socrates begins his sophistic and shoddy proof that the slave must have looked into his soul and found some episteme (knowledge, understanding) there. Socrates must be extremely disappointed that Meno and all those lurking Platonists fail to react to any of the deliberate inconsistencies. He'll have to try harder next time (and he does).

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841alethes,demonstration,doxa,episteme,knowledge,meno,mimnesis,misdirection,opinion,recollection,socrates,true,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0111-meno-84e--56576406The demonstration - part 7 (final part):

The rest of the demonstration after the aporetic interlude is surprisingly quick. Suddenly there is a potential base line the slave hadn't seen before. Socrates has just drawn the square with the double area, so that might have something to do with it. The demonstration clearly (to us) has nothing to do. with any Theory of Recollection, but it does provide food for thought with regard to the way Socrates is misguiding Meno towards a correct answer, by eliminating the obvious wrong answers first.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56576406Fri, 15 Sep 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 11: The demonstration - part 7 (final part): The rest of the demonstration after the aporetic interlude is surprisingly quick. Suddenly there is a potential base line the slave hadn't seen before. Socrates has just...The demonstration - part 7 (final part):

The rest of the demonstration after the aporetic interlude is surprisingly quick. Suddenly there is a potential base line the slave hadn't seen before. Socrates has just drawn the square with the double area, so that might have something to do with it. The demonstration clearly (to us) has nothing to do. with any Theory of Recollection, but it does provide food for thought with regard to the way Socrates is misguiding Meno towards a correct answer, by eliminating the obvious wrong answers first.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841demonstration,diameter,diametros,manipulation,meno,recollection,slave,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0110-meno-84b--56514133The demonstration - part 6:

Socrates finishes talking to Meno about the aporia of the slave, while actually referring to the aporia of Meno himself. For the first time he mentions doxa (opinion, reputation - that which seems). Opinion will become very important in the second half of the dialogue.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56514133Fri, 08 Sep 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 10: The demonstration - part 6: Socrates finishes talking to Meno about the aporia of the slave, while actually referring to the aporia of Meno himself. For the first time he mentions doxa (opinion, reputation - that...The demonstration - part 6:

Socrates finishes talking to Meno about the aporia of the slave, while actually referring to the aporia of Meno himself. For the first time he mentions doxa (opinion, reputation - that which seems). Opinion will become very important in the second half of the dialogue.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aporia,demonstration,doxa,ignorance,knowledge,manipulation,meno,opinion,recollection,slave,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0109-meno-84a--56492650The demonstration - part 5:

Socrates discusses with Meno the exercise so far, stressing how being numbed by the torpedo fish (using Meno's analogy) is no bad thing, but a necessary step towards searching for the truth. Vlastos' "Socratic Method" accepts that Socrates does indeed lead his interlocutors to the realization that they do not know what they thought that they did know, resulting in aporia, a necessary condition before the search for the truth may begin. This description, however, is tailored to Meno's way of thinking, and does not conform with essentially the Socratic examination of hypotheses, no matter whether the interlocutor treats them as knowledge or mere opinion. The slave had been manipulated into giving particular answers, effectively hypotheses, and they were not opinions the slave had held previously at all, let alone as opinions which he had treated as knowledge. The slave's aporia stems not from his awareness of ignorance but from his inability to find another baseline (it hasn't yet been drawn). Socrates is using the present exercise to neutralize Meno's objection to continuing beyond his own pseudo-aporia, and if the slave does eventually find the correct answer, Meno will surely be convinced that it is worth continuing to look for an answer regarding virtue.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56492650Fri, 01 Sep 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 9: The demonstration - part 5: Socrates discusses with Meno the exercise so far, stressing how being numbed by the torpedo fish (using Meno's analogy) is no bad thing, but a necessary step towards searching for the...The demonstration - part 5:

Socrates discusses with Meno the exercise so far, stressing how being numbed by the torpedo fish (using Meno's analogy) is no bad thing, but a necessary step towards searching for the truth. Vlastos' "Socratic Method" accepts that Socrates does indeed lead his interlocutors to the realization that they do not know what they thought that they did know, resulting in aporia, a necessary condition before the search for the truth may begin. This description, however, is tailored to Meno's way of thinking, and does not conform with essentially the Socratic examination of hypotheses, no matter whether the interlocutor treats them as knowledge or mere opinion. The slave had been manipulated into giving particular answers, effectively hypotheses, and they were not opinions the slave had held previously at all, let alone as opinions which he had treated as knowledge. The slave's aporia stems not from his awareness of ignorance but from his inability to find another baseline (it hasn't yet been drawn). Socrates is using the present exercise to neutralize Meno's objection to continuing beyond his own pseudo-aporia, and if the slave does eventually find the correct answer, Meno will surely be convinced that it is worth continuing to look for an answer regarding virtue.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aporia,demonstration,ignorance,knowledge,manipulation,meno,recollection,slave,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0108-meno-83d--56450980The demonstration - part 4:

The slave is surprised to discover that the double area is not constructed on the double base-line (four units) or on the only other option, the base-line between two and four units, namely. the three-unit line.
When asked to point at yet another base-line, he finds himself in an aporia, and it is worth comparing. this despairing aporia with Meno's wonderful aporia just a little while ago.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56450980Fri, 25 Aug 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 8: The demonstration - part 4: The slave is surprised to discover that the double area is not constructed on the double base-line (four units) or on the only other option, the base-line between two and four units,...The demonstration - part 4:

The slave is surprised to discover that the double area is not constructed on the double base-line (four units) or on the only other option, the base-line between two and four units, namely. the three-unit line.
When asked to point at yet another base-line, he finds himself in an aporia, and it is worth comparing. this despairing aporia with Meno's wonderful aporia just a little while ago.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,aporia,demonstration,false,geometry,meno,recollection,slave,socrates,squarefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0107-meno-82e--56392261The demonstration - part 3:

The slave works out, with much help from Socrates, that a square with double the area of a smaller square is not constructed on double the base line. The area of a square constructed on double the base line is quadruple. We await patiently the demonstration of Recollection.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56392261Fri, 18 Aug 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 7: The demonstration - part 3: The slave works out, with much help from Socrates, that a square with double the area of a smaller square is not constructed on double the base line. The area of a square constructed on...The demonstration - part 3:

The slave works out, with much help from Socrates, that a square with double the area of a smaller square is not constructed on double the base line. The area of a square constructed on double the base line is quadruple. We await patiently the demonstration of Recollection.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,demonstration,false,geometry,meno,recollection,slave,socrates,squarefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0106-meno-82c--56378473The demonstration - part 2:

The slave works out (without being taught!) that a square with a side of two units has an area of four (squares). When asked about a square with double the area (eight squares), he confidently declares that the line of the square must be double too. Meno does not react, but we should.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56378473Fri, 11 Aug 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory of Recollection - part 6: The demonstration - part 2: The slave works out (without being taught!) that a square with a side of two units has an area of four (squares). When asked about a square with double the area (eight squares), he...The demonstration - part 2:

The slave works out (without being taught!) that a square with a side of two units has an area of four (squares). When asked about a square with double the area (eight squares), he confidently declares that the line of the square must be double too. Meno does not react, but we should.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,demonstration,false,geometry,meno,recollection,slave,socrates,squarefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0105-meno-82b--56318526The demonstration - part 1:

Meno has been told to decide whether the slave is recollecting, or learning from Socrates. He should have told Meno to decide whether the slave is learning by recollecting or from Socrates. Instead of applying his nous (intellect), Meno simply watches, no matter how much Socrates tries to invalidate the demonstration.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56318526Fri, 04 Aug 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory. of Recollection - part 5: The demonstration - part 1: Meno has been told to decide whether the slave is recollecting, or learning from Socrates. He should have told Meno to decide whether the slave is learning by recollecting or from...The demonstration - part 1:

Meno has been told to decide whether the slave is recollecting, or learning from Socrates. He should have told Meno to decide whether the slave is learning by recollecting or from Socrates. Instead of applying his nous (intellect), Meno simply watches, no matter how much Socrates tries to invalidate the demonstration.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841demonstration,dialectic,exercise,meno,slave,socrates,sophist,squarefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0104-meno-82a--56247763Preparing for the demonstration

Meno is not allowed to have Socrates teach him that only recollection is learning (if Socrates teaches, then learning is not by recollection), so Meno asks for a demonstration instead, as if learning through seeing will prove that only recollection is learning. Socrates agrees to demonstrate this "difficult" task and continues to pile on the inconsistencies, but Meno is quite happy to lend Socrates one of his household staff. Sorry, the Squaring of the Slave begins only in the next episode.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56247763Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:00:03 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory. of Recollection - part 4: Preparing for the demonstration Meno is not allowed to have Socrates teach him that only recollection is learning (if Socrates teaches, then learning is not by recollection), so Meno asks for a demonstration...Preparing for the demonstration

Meno is not allowed to have Socrates teach him that only recollection is learning (if Socrates teaches, then learning is not by recollection), so Meno asks for a demonstration instead, as if learning through seeing will prove that only recollection is learning. Socrates agrees to demonstrate this "difficult" task and continues to pile on the inconsistencies, but Meno is quite happy to lend Socrates one of his household staff. Sorry, the Squaring of the Slave begins only in the next episode.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,audience,demonstrat,dialectic,eristic,household,meno,recollecfion,slave,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0103-meno-81d--56184184Socrates continues to pile on the absurdities, and Meno conntinues to behave like a Platonist, failing to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. The immortal soul knows everything (having seen it all, thanks to living forever), but the human knows nothing (no reason is given - it's as if there's no connection between the mental activity of the soul and the mental activity of the human). The soul has all knowledge; the human has all ignorance, and there is no mention of opinion. The reason for this ridiculous account is given; it is to encourage Meno to return to the conversation, and "help Socrates" search for virtue. The eristic argument encourages laziness, but searching requires effort. The Platonist will continue to argue for some Theory of Ideas based on Phaedo rather than this account. I ignore Platonism in this episode as well.


Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56184184Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:45:30 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory. of Recollection - part 3. Socrates continues to pile on the absurdities, and Meno conntinues to behave like a Platonist, failing to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. The immortal soul knows everything (having seen it all, thanks...Socrates continues to pile on the absurdities, and Meno conntinues to behave like a Platonist, failing to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. The immortal soul knows everything (having seen it all, thanks to living forever), but the human knows nothing (no reason is given - it's as if there's no connection between the mental activity of the soul and the mental activity of the human). The soul has all knowledge; the human has all ignorance, and there is no mention of opinion. The reason for this ridiculous account is given; it is to encourage Meno to return to the conversation, and "help Socrates" search for virtue. The eristic argument encourages laziness, but searching requires effort. The Platonist will continue to argue for some Theory of Ideas based on Phaedo rather than this account. I ignore Platonism in this episode as well.


Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,dialectic,eristic,ignorance,immortality,knowledge,learning,meno,recollection,socrates,soul,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0102-meno-81b--56110724Socrates piles on the absurdities, but Meno behaves like a Platonist and fails to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. To take one example, in addition to the immortal soul routinely dying and coming to be, it now has seen everything and because of this it has learned everything. Among the things that it knows is virtue. In other words, the soul has seen virtue. It has seen virtue either in this world or in Hades, the two places whose contents Socrates declares the soul to have seen. All of this the Platonist worth his salt will ignore in favour of some Theory of Ideas which so far has nowhere been mentioned (I do not refer to Platonism in this episode).

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56110724Sat, 15 Jul 2023 12:14:12 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory. of Recollection - part 2. Socrates piles on the absurdities, but Meno behaves like a Platonist and fails to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. To take one example, in addition to the immortal soul routinely dying and coming to...Socrates piles on the absurdities, but Meno behaves like a Platonist and fails to react to any of the obvious inconsistencies. To take one example, in addition to the immortal soul routinely dying and coming to be, it now has seen everything and because of this it has learned everything. Among the things that it knows is virtue. In other words, the soul has seen virtue. It has seen virtue either in this world or in Hades, the two places whose contents Socrates declares the soul to have seen. All of this the Platonist worth his salt will ignore in favour of some Theory of Ideas which so far has nowhere been mentioned (I do not refer to Platonism in this episode).

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,hades,ignorance,immortal,knowledge,meno,persephone,pindar,recollection,socrates,soulfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0101-meno-81a--56034787Socrates entices Meno with priests, priestesses, and poets such as Pindar. They have an account of the soul, according to which the soul is immortal and yet dies and comes back to being. Socrates has told Meno to examine whether the account is true, and yet Meno fails to object even to this absurdity.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56034787Sat, 08 Jul 2023 13:07:08 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Theory. of Recollection - part 1. Socrates entices Meno with priests, priestesses, and poets such as Pindar. They have an account of the soul, according to which the soul is immortal and yet dies and comes back to being. Socrates has told Meno to...Socrates entices Meno with priests, priestesses, and poets such as Pindar. They have an account of the soul, according to which the soul is immortal and yet dies and comes back to being. Socrates has told Meno to examine whether the account is true, and yet Meno fails to object even to this absurdity.

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anamnesis,athanat,immortal,meno,pindar,priest,psyche,recollection,socrates,soul,theoryfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0100-meno-80b--55475901
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/55475901Fri, 30 Jun 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno has effectively excused himself from answering again about virtue. Socrates pretends to acknowledge that neither of them knows what virtue is, in order to suggest that they search together for it. Meno immediately raises the eristic argument...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aporia,arete,enquiry,eristic,euporia,inquiry,meno,narke,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0099-meno-79e--54550851
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54550851Fri, 23 Jun 2023 09:00:02 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno celebrates his aporia, his lack of supply (of answers). He exploits what he has heard about Socrates and his ability to stun, like a torpedo fish, not only himself but anyone who touches him, and portrays himself as yet another one of Socrates'...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aporia,arete,meno,narke,socrates,torpedofish,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0098-meno-79c--54477111
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54477111Sat, 17 Jun 2023 14:29:30 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates wraps up the series of answers Meno has given about virtue by ensuring that he cannot give a fourth answer without suddenly changing and applying some dialectical thought to the subject.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,definiendum,definiens,gorgias,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0097-meno-78d--54212714
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54212714Sat, 10 Jun 2023 15:57:27 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates concludes his criticism of Meno's third answer about virtue by labouring the point that an action in itself is neither virtue nor vice [not correcting Meno's notion that the whole of virtue or vice is a particular action], but is virtue if...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,dik,hosiotes,just,meno,part,piety,socrates,virtue,wholefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0096-meno-78c--54067380
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54067380Fri, 02 Jun 2023 16:52:56 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving discarded the first part of Meno's third answer concerning virtue, Socrates turns to the second part, and soon establishes that Meno is still thinking of the virtue of the man. Of all the possible ways to refute this yet again, Socrates simply...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841acquire,acquisition,arete,dikaios,gold,justly,meno,porizesthai,poros,silver,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0095-meno-78b--54006296
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54006296Fri, 26 May 2023 12:24:04 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving treated the first part of Meno's third answer about virtue last time, this time Socrates explains why it is redundant. Having concluded sophistically last time that there is no one who does not desire good things, Socrates exploits one further...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathos,arete,competition,excellence,fine,good,kalos,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0094-meno-77b--53932992
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53932992Fri, 19 May 2023 18:19:46 +0000Ivor LudlamAfter Meno's third answer to the question, "What is virtue?", that it is someone desiring fine things and being able to acquire them, Socrates begins his examination of the statement by apparently questioning whether there are people who do not desire...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agatha,agathon,arete,beneficial,benefit,desire,excluded,fine,good,harm,harmful,kala,kalon,meno,middle,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0093-meno-77a--53835899
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53835899Fri, 12 May 2023 17:51:46 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno's third answer regarding virtue is "Someone desiring fine things and being able to acquire them". Socrates will begin his examination of this next time, but we already consider some of the problems now.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,arete,beautiful,fine,hippias,kala,kalon,meno,minor,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0092-meno-76d--53716527
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53716527Fri, 05 May 2023 12:47:49 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates and Meno discuss which of the three sample answers they each prefer, although it isn't clear which one Socrates prefers or why. Socrates entices Meno to continue the discussion by hinting at an initiation into the mysteries. We learn that...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eleusis,meno,mysteries,socrates,tragicfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0091-meno-76c--53674765
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53674765Fri, 28 Apr 2023 08:21:52 +0000Ivor LudlamThe third example Socrates gives of the sort of answer he expects from Meno is even worse than the previous two, although Meno accepts this one enthusiastically. The first answer had been that shape is the only thing which always follows colour, and...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841air,black,bright,dark,dialectic,earth,element,emanation,empedocles,epistemology,fire,gorgias,meno,pore,socrates,water,whitefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0090-meno-76a--53606577
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53606577Fri, 21 Apr 2023 16:40:37 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno avoids having to answer again the question what virtue is because Socrates allows him to. Immediately after Socrates' second reply regarding shape, Meno asks what colour is, and Socrates plays the erastes (lover) to Meno's eromenos (beloved),...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841colour,erastes,eromenos,gorgias,love,meno,shape,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0089-meno-75d--53515225
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53515225Fri, 14 Apr 2023 11:41:11 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates provides a second definition of "shape" (schema), but this time ensuring that Meno agrees beforehand to the various elements forming the explanation. Things are not as obvious as they seem (obviously).
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agreement,definition,dialectic,eristic,meno,shape,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0088-meno-75b--53462340
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53462340Fri, 07 Apr 2023 11:02:51 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates pretends to help Meno give him an answer to the question "What is virtue?", which would explain every virtue, by providing a sample answer to the question "What is shape?", applicable to all shapes. Socrates encourages Meno to criticize it,...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agonistic,answer,definition,dialectic,eristic,exercise,melete,meno,shape,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0087-meno-74e--53405308
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53405308Fri, 31 Mar 2023 18:45:34 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates is making a meal out of Meno's inability to give a simple answer to the question what is X in all instances of X. He would like Meno to give an answer to what is shape, for this to serve as an exercise (meletē) towards Meno's later answer...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841meno,shape,socrates,teachingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0086-meno-74b--53334071
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53334071Sat, 25 Mar 2023 14:14:56 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno has recalled Gorgias' two answers concerning virtues perfectly, but one gives many virtues, the other only one virtue, but not applicable to all. He is thus out of options which might satisfy Socrates' question, to say what that virtue is which...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,chroma,colour,gorgias,meno,round,schema,shape,socrates,straight,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0085-meno-73d--53221041
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53221041Fri, 17 Mar 2023 10:35:15 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno's second attempt at explaining what virtue is by using Gorgias' other reply out of context is already doomed to failure, but Socrates adds to the problems by deliberately adding to Meno"s "being able to rule humans" the adverb "justly", which is...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,dik,general,just,meno,particular,role,schema,shape,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0084-meno-73c--53157874
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53157874Fri, 10 Mar 2023 13:08:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates once again asks Meno for an answer given by Gorgias despite having dropped the sophist from the conversation a little earlier. This second answer makes sense in Gorgias' context, but it does not follow in the present context. Socrates...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841archein,arete,dialectic,errors,gorgias,meno,rule,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0083-meno-73a--52867633
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52867633Sat, 04 Mar 2023 07:19:13 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates completes his argument moving virtue away from the "what" to the "how", from particular activities appropriate to types of people and towards virtue as the appropriate way in which any activity is done. This allows all types of people to be...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,constant,dik,just,meno,moderate,self-control,socrates,sophr,temperate,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0082-meno-72d--52801779
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52801779Fri, 24 Feb 2023 18:32:59 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates attempts to steer Meno away from regarding virtue as the task appropriate for each particular individual to do, towards the way in which anything is done (well, justly, with self-control). The means by which Socrates attempts to do this...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841adverb,arete,health,just,meno,self-control,size,socrates,state,strength,task,virtue,wellfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0081-meno-72a--52696901
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52696901Fri, 17 Feb 2023 14:37:02 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates explains that he is looking for the aspect of arete (virtue), the one thing which is common to all the different types of arete.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,aspect,eidos,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0080-meno-71d--52661567
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52661567Fri, 10 Feb 2023 13:59:44 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates turns the tables. Instead of saying what sort of thing he thinks arete (virtue) is, he manipulates Meno into telling him what Gorgias says arete is. Meno answers in the style of Gorgias, generously and without fear. Each type of person...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,gorgias,household,man,meno,polis,socrates,virtue,womanfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0079-meno-71b--52635172
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52635172Sat, 04 Feb 2023 11:23:05 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates finally manages to get Meno to react despite not selecting one of the choices Meno gave him regarding the sort of thing arete (virtue) is. Meno reacts to the suggestion that someone not knowing Meno at all would not know what sort of person...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841accident,arete,essence,meno,socrates,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0078-meno-70c--52538648
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52538648Fri, 27 Jan 2023 15:06:26 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues his reply to.Meno's first question since Meno fails to react to any of the shocking things Socrates says. Having portrayed Gorgias as a seller of sophia, teaching people to be able to answer any question put to them, and having...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841attica,eristics,expert,gorgias,laugh,meno,socrates,sophia,thesssaly,wisefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0077-meno-70a--52503714
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52503714Sat, 21 Jan 2023 18:07:05 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins his reply to Meno's first question
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,art,craft,expertise,gorgias,horsemanship,meno,socrates,sophia,sophist,techne,thessalians,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0076-meno-70a--52441987
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52441987Sat, 14 Jan 2023 18:34:33 +0000Ivor LudlamMeno's first question is not what it is usually considered to be. It is about the sort of thing arete (virtue) is, and not whether Socrates can tell Meno how to acquire virtue.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841arete,exercise,goodness,learn,meno,nature,socrates,teach,virtuefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0075-politeia-republic--52378218
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52378218Sat, 07 Jan 2023 15:47:36 +0000Ivor LudlamThis is a barebones summary of my full analysis of Politeia in my 2015 book entitled Plato's Republic as a Philosophical Drama on Doing Well, Lexington Books, with special emphasis on the explicit use of paradeigmata in the dialogue.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841adeimantos,adeimantus,adimantus,analogy,aristocrat,cave,cephalus,clitopho,democrat,glauco,glaukon,oligarch,paradeigma,paradigm,polemarchus,republic,socrates,thrasymachus,timocrat,tyrantfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0074-hippias-major-4-of-4--52318374The original analysis was published as

Hippias Major: An Interpretation (Palingenesia XXXVII), Stuttgart 1991

My more recent article assessing Hippias Major and Minor together may be found in

“Plato on the Good: Hippias Minor and Hippias Major”, in Y.Z. Liebersohn, I. Ludlam, A. Edelheit edd. For a Skeptical Peripatetic: Festschrift in Honour of John Glucker (Studies in Ancient Moral and Political Philosophy 3), Academia Verlag: Sankt Augustin 2017

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52318374Fri, 30 Dec 2022 21:22:31 +0000Ivor LudlamFinal part of the summary of my analysis of Hippias Major. The original analysis was published as Hippias Major: An Interpretation (Palingenesia XXXVII), Stuttgart 1991 My more recent article assessing Hippias Major and Minor together may be found...The original analysis was published as

Hippias Major: An Interpretation (Palingenesia XXXVII), Stuttgart 1991

My more recent article assessing Hippias Major and Minor together may be found in

“Plato on the Good: Hippias Minor and Hippias Major”, in Y.Z. Liebersohn, I. Ludlam, A. Edelheit edd. For a Skeptical Peripatetic: Festschrift in Honour of John Glucker (Studies in Ancient Moral and Political Philosophy 3), Academia Verlag: Sankt Augustin 2017

Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aesthetic,apparent,appearance,beautiful,deigma,fine,fitting,good,hippias,kalon,paradeigma,paradigm,practical,prepon,social,socrates,worthfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0073-hippias-major-3-of-4-the-arguments--52269052
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52269052Fri, 23 Dec 2022 18:03:23 +0000Ivor LudlamWhat scholars tend to treat as a flawed philosophical argument is actually much worse than that. The dynamics of the dialogue require Socrates to appear impressed by Hippias, while Hippias must appear good (by being expert) to Socrates. Socrates is...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841beautiful,dialectic,eristic,fine,hippias,kalon,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0072-hippias-major-2-of-4-reputation-and-audiences--52212627
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52212627Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:01:34 +0000Ivor LudlamHippias acts as if he is the expert on reputation (eudoxia), on how to appear beneficial despite not being beneficial. Socrates is obliged to frame everything he says in a way which allows Hippias to believe that his audience of one is continually...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathos,appearance,audience,dialectic,eristic,fine,good,hippias,kalos,major,many,questioner,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0071-hippias-major-1-of-4--52147895
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52147895Sat, 10 Dec 2022 15:38:32 +0000Ivor LudlamThis is a four-part summary of Hippias Major. I had analysed this dialogue already in the 1980s, and published the analysis in 1991. A thorough read-through of this particularly eristic dialogue would take around 80 episodes. There are other dialogues...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agathon,beautiful,dialectic,eristic,fine,fitting,good,greater,hippias,kalon,major,prepon,questioner,socrates,sophistfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0070-euthyphro-conclusions-3-3--51939780
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51939780Sat, 03 Dec 2022 09:37:34 +0000Ivor LudlamThis final episode of the Euthyphro series discusses the central idea, its aspects, the paradeigmata, the deigmata, and a red herring
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841deigma,euthyphro,holy,hosion,paradeigma,paradigm,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0069-euthyphro-conclusions-2-of-3--51939779
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51939779Sat, 26 Nov 2022 13:21:07 +0000Ivor LudlamThe characters are not only remarkably consistent, but they are also extreme and clear-cut.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841character,deigma,euthyphro,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0068-euthyphro-conclusions-1-3--51939723
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51939723Fri, 18 Nov 2022 15:08:46 +0000Ivor LudlamThe dialogue's surface argument is philosophically unsatisfactory, to say the least
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841conclusion,euthyphro,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0067-euthyphro-15c--51796073
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51796073Sat, 12 Nov 2022 11:31:33 +0000Ivor LudlamIn this last section of the dialogue, we see Euthyphro choosing to walk away rather than propose another definition of the holy (to hosion). Socrates still praises Euthyphro for his wisdom, but in such a way that anyone with thicker skin than...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841change,daedalus,dialectic,euthyphro,holy,hosion,proteus,refutation,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0066-euthyphro-14e--51681605
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51681605Sat, 05 Nov 2022 15:58:55 +0000Ivor LudlamThe art of commerce seems not to benefit both sides, humans and gods, but humans only. Euthyphro, equating pleasant things with gratitude (keCHARISmena, with CHARIS), explains that the gods receive gratitude (i.e, thanks for goods received from them)...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841euthyphro,god,god-beloved,holy,hosion,refutation,socrates,theophilesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0065-euthyphro-14c--51610144
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51610144Sat, 29 Oct 2022 13:30:13 +0000Ivor LudlamBy means of question and answer, Euthyphro's suggestion that holy are those things pleasing to the gods, performed through the sacrifices and prayers of humans, is transformed into the holy being the techne of commerce, whereby humans and gods obtain...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841barter,commerce,emporike,euthyphro,gods,prayer,sacrifice,socrates,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0064-euthyphro-14b--51572374
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51572374Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:21:01 +0000Ivor LudlamWe learn a little more about dialectic. The questioner allows the questioned to feel in charge of the conversation, but it is in fact the questioner who steers the conversation by means of the type of questions asked. One of the examples in this...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,aversion,craft,episteme,euthyphro,gods,holy,hosion,knowledge,miasma,pollution,prayer,sacrifice,skill,socrates,techne,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0063-euthyphro-14a--51524426
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51524426Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:36:25 +0000Ivor LudlamWhen pressed to explain what the gods actually do in their therapeia, Euthyhphro avoids the question but actually reveals an important aspect of the holy. Humans, subservient to the gods, pray and do things pleasing to the gods, and these things are...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anosion,asebeia,disrespect,euthyphro,god,holy,hosion,human,master,miasma,pollution,slave,socrates,unholyfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0062-euthyphro-13d--51507155
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51507155Sat, 08 Oct 2022 12:05:35 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro attempts to explain what he means by dividing justice into the therapeia of gods and the therapeia of men, but Socrates continues to treat therapeia ("tending") as if it is techne (craft). Last time the therapeiai made animals better, while...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,craft,euthyphro,gods,justice,men,skill,socrates,techne,tending,therapeiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0061-euthyphro-13b--51426182
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51426182Fri, 30 Sep 2022 11:38:07 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro has defined justice as the therapeia (tending) of gods on the one hand and the therapeia of men on the other. Socrates treats therapeia as if it is techne (skill, craft, art), suggesting that there is an expert for every therapeia, and...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,craft,dikaion,euthyphro,holy,hosion,justice,skill,socrates,techne,tending,therapeia,treatmentfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0060-euthyphro-12e--51357740
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51357740Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:57:19 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro has made what might appear to be a division of the genus justice into two species - the tending of gods and the tending of men. He has in fact allowed the holy to become the species of justice exemplified by Socrates' court case, and being...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841art,asebeia,craft,dikaion,eusebeia,euthyphro,holy,horseman,hosion,hosiotes,hunting,justice,oxdriving,religion,respect,skill,socrates,techne,therapeia,treatmentfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0059-euthyphro-12e--51290667
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51290667Sat, 17 Sep 2022 15:50:57 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro gives the answer to Socrates' question that the holy is that part of justice which is the therapeia of the gods, while the rest of justice is the therapeia of humans.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841asebeia,dikaion,disrespect,eusebes,euthyphro,holy,hosion,just,meletus,respectful,socrates,therapeiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0058-euthyphro-12c--51210094
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51210094Sat, 10 Sep 2022 13:02:05 +0000Ivor LudlamSome background this time. Species = {GENUS: specifying difference} (e.g., Man is ANIMAL: rational: mortal). A species entails other species, and all the species together fully complete all instances of the genus. The genus ANIMAL may be divided into...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dikaion,eidos,euthyphro,genos,genus,holy,hosion,just,meros,part,socrates,speciesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0057-euthyphro-12a--51116361
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51116361Fri, 02 Sep 2022 12:44:35 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving just suggested that the just (to dikaion) is part of the holy (to hosion), Socrates purportedly explains what he means by adducing the poet Stasinus who says something which Socrates claims is the opposite (regarding the relationship of the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aidos,apprehension,deos,dikaion,elegiac,euthyphro,hexameter,holy,hosion,just,pentameter,phobos,reverence,shame,socrates,stasinos,stasinusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0056-euthyphro-11e--51047360
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51047360Sat, 27 Aug 2022 10:53:34 +0000Ivor LudlamFollowing the refutation of the holy as the godloved, and Euthyphro's reluctance to offer an alternative definition, Socrates suggests that the holy is the just (or that holiness is justice), in whole or in part.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dikaion,euthyphro,holy,hosion,just,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0055-euthyphro-11c--50970744
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50970744Sat, 20 Aug 2022 11:51:49 +0000Ivor LudlamMentioning the legendary sculptor Daedalus eventually allows Socrates to confess that he too is an expert (sophos), albeit an unwilling one. His expertise is in changing not only his own opinions, but those of others as well. This expertise is not...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841daedalus,dialectic,euthyphro,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0054-euthyphro-11b--50904360
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50904360Sat, 13 Aug 2022 08:13:01 +0000Ivor LudlamHaving established that the godloved is merely an affect of the holy, Socrates asks Euthyphro again for something which is common to all instances of holy but is not an affect. Euthyphro complains or observes that every attempt at an answer so far has...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841daedalus,daidalos,euthyphro,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0053-euthyphro-10c--50836615
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50836615Sat, 06 Aug 2022 18:11:24 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues his examination of the holy as godloved with further observations on the difference between something causing an activity and something described by an activity
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841affect,euthyphro,ousia,pathos,socrates,substancefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0052-euthyphro-10b--50757318
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50757318Sat, 30 Jul 2022 12:14:12 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates presents Euthyphro with active and passive participles and verbs in order to impress upon him the nature of cause and effect. An activity is logically prior to a thing described by that activity. A thing described by an activity is not the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841active,affect,becoming,euthyphro,gignomai,godloved,god-loved,holy,hosion,loved,loving,participle,pascho,passive,socrates,verbfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0051-euthyphro-10a--50687872
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50687872Sat, 23 Jul 2022 11:32:39 +0000Ivor LudlamThe Euthyphro Dilemma - will not be discussed in this series, since it has little to do with this dialogue or with Plato. Instead, we shall be examining the original question at 10a which is effectively the springboard for many and varied discussions...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841active,cause,effect,euthyphro,godloved,holy,hosion,participle,passive,socrates,theophilesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0050-euthyphro-9d--50582724
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50582724Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:06:00 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro finally concludes that what is holy (to hosion) is what all (not some of) the gods love, and that what is unholy (to anosion) is what all (not some of) the gods hate. Euthyphro may seem to have switched from a definition of holy involving...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841definition,dikaion,dike,euthyphro,god,holy,hosion,just,justice,love,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0049-euthyphro-9c--50517916
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50517916Sat, 09 Jul 2022 11:17:48 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to run rings around Euthyphro with gods loving just acts, hating unjust acts, all the while disagreeing with each other, and yet Euthyphro remains blithely confident that all the gods love his prosecution of his father, and is happy...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anosion,dike,euthyphro,father,holy,hosion,justice,killing,murder,socrates,unholyfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0048-euthyphro-9a--50443840
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50443840Sat, 02 Jul 2022 14:00:41 +0000Ivor LudlamIt becomes even more apparent that Euthyphro is concerned with to hosion rather than justice, but will use justice as a rhetorical device. Rhetoric is necessary in a court case. Socrates is not so easily influenced by rhetoric, and he dwells on the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,dikaion,dike,euthyphro,holy,hosion,just,rhetoric,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0047-euthyphro-8d--50331180
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50331180Sat, 25 Jun 2022 08:54:48 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro is motivated by to hosion (the holy) to prosecute his father (the prosecution will remove the pollution of murder). Socrates has contrived a portrayal of the gods whereby they are in conflict with each other primarily because they disagree...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841conflict,dike,disagreement,euthyphro,holy,hosion,justice,manipulation,mythology,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0046-euthyphro-8b--50247865
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50247865Sat, 18 Jun 2022 11:28:29 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues his questioning of Euthyphro's reply that the holy is what is loved by the gods. Euthyphro insists that all the gods love his prosecution of his father's unjust killing of one of their bondsmen.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841adikon,dike,euthyphro,god,holy,hosion,justice,rhetoric,socrates,unjustfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0045-euthyphro-7c--50167895
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50167895Sat, 11 Jun 2022 18:14:14 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to examine Euthyphro's suggestion that the holy (to hosion) is what is loved by the gods.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841beauty,cronus,euthyphro,god-loved,gods,goodness,hatred,hephaestus,hephaistos,hera,holy,hosion,justice,kronos,manipulation,ouranos,socrates,uranus,war,zeusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0044-euthyphro-6e--50057884
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50057884Sat, 04 Jun 2022 08:11:38 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates asks for a paradigm of the holy, effectively a definition of the holy (to hosion). Euthyphro suggests the god-loved, the dear-to-the-gods (to prosphiles). Socrates begins his examination of the definition by asking over what we have...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841count,dear-to-the-gods,difference,disagreement,euthyphro,faction,god-loved,holy,hosion,hostility,measure,paradeigma,paradigm,prosphiles,socrates,weighfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0043-euthyphro-6d--49967918
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49967918Fri, 27 May 2022 13:52:30 +0000Ivor LudlamThe stage is set for the ostensibly more philosophical part of the dialogue. Socrates has made Euthyphro his unofficial teacher; Euthyphro accepts that he was the one who brought up the notion of one thing common to many things (idea is a general...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0042-euthyphro-6b--49886670
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49886670Sat, 21 May 2022 12:33:47 +0000Ivor LudlamGiven that they are paradeigmata of aspects of the idea of the holy (to hosion), Euthyphro and Socrates are faithfully extreme in features pertaining to those aspects. Euthyphro believes everything about mythology. Belief in mythology may therefore be...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841athena,belief,believe,euthyphro,holy,hosion,know,myth,peplos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0041-euthyphro-6a--49795738
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49795738Sat, 14 May 2022 12:36:31 +0000Ivor LudlamHow does Euthyphro intend to use his mythological justification for prosecuting his father? Socrates apparently doesn't know what Euthyphro does, which he says is why he will agree with Euthyphro, his teacher, the one who knows, concerning the holy.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841cronus,euthyphro,holy,hosion,knowledge,kronos,mad,many,ouranos,pupil,socrates,teacher,uranusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0040-euthyphro-5d--49699428
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49699428Sat, 07 May 2022 09:01:15 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates asks his "teacher" Euthyphro what the holy and the unholy (hosion, anosion) are, and Euthyphro explains that prosecuting his unjust father is holy. He points to the precedents of Zeus binding his unjust father Kronos, and Kronos castrating...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anosion,cronus,euthyphro,father,holy,hosion,just,kronos,ouranos,socrates,son,unholy,uranusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0039-euthyphro-5b--49594786
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49594786Fri, 29 Apr 2022 13:02:33 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates takes the next steps towards becoming Euthyphro's student of holiness (to hosion, he hosiotes). In the process he sneakily introduces irreverence (to asebes, he asebeia) and the concept of aspect (idea, cf. eidos).
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841aspect,euthyphro,holiness,idea,irreverence,pupil,socrates,teacher,to_asebes,to_hosionfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0038-euthyphro-4e--49516081
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49516081Fri, 22 Apr 2022 13:47:06 +0000Ivor LudlamSince Euthyphro claims to know about divine things - the holy and the unholy (hosion and anosion) - accurately, Socrates prepares the ground for a discussion of the holy by pretending to become a pupil of Euthyphro (although Euthyphro is not a...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841accurate,anosion,deigma,euthyphro,expert,holy,hosion,knowledge,many,paradeigma,paradigm,pupil,socrates,sophos,teacher,trial,unholyfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0037-euthyphro-4c--49443930
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49443930Fri, 15 Apr 2022 12:57:41 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro describes the events leading up to the death of the person on whose behalf he is prosecuting his father. Euthyphro's family claim his prosecution of his father for murder to be anosion (unholy), but he claims to know exactly what hosion and...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841anosion,euthyphro,father,holy,hosion,miasma,murder,naxos,socrates,son,unholyfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0036-euthyphro-4c--49376526
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49376526Sat, 09 Apr 2022 13:44:13 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro explains why a murderer should be prosecuted by a family member. Both the murderer and the family member have pollution (miasma) and need to remove it through a trial in a court of law. We also have our first indirect mention of the concept...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dike,euthyphro,father,holy,hosion,justice,miasma,pollution,socrates,sonfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0035-euthyphro-3e--49281721
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49281721Fri, 01 Apr 2022 14:00:22 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates and Euthyphro turn to a discussion of Euthyphro's prosecution, and Euthyphro defends his decision to prosecute his father for murder.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dike,euthyphro,father,murder,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0034-euthyphro-3c--49208137
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49208137Sat, 26 Mar 2022 11:58:17 +0000Ivor LudlamBeing and appearance: Euthyphro regards himself and Socrates as fellow predictors of the future; the Many regard Euthyphro as mad (lacking a sophia), but Socrates as possessing a sophia concerning new gods with which he corrupts the young; Socrates,...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841euthyphro,gods,mantis,many,socrates,sophia,sophistfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0033-euthyphro-2d--49095141
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49095141Thu, 17 Mar 2022 15:21:23 +0000Ivor LudlamEuthyphro, being a seer in his spare time,considers Socrates to be unjustly charged with inventing new gods (as if the writ itself is an act of injustice). Meletus, Socrates' prosecutor, and the Many, do not take seriously the idea of a personal...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841daemon,daimon,dike,euthphro,graphe,many,meletus,mock,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0032-euthyphro-2b--49029278
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49029278Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:16:42 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates describes his accuser, Meletus, to Euthyphro, and emphasizes how young he is both through the direct description of his appearance and through the agricultural image of a farmer weeding out older plants. Meletus was the actual prosecutor in...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841euthyphro,farmer,graphe,meletus,socrates,weed,writfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0031-euthyphro-2a--48954434
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48954434Fri, 04 Mar 2022 19:44:36 +0000Ivor LudlamThis is the second Platonic dialogue to be analysed in this podcast. Euthyphro and Socrates meet outside the Stoa of the Archon King and begin to discuss their respective cases concerning offences to the gods
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841courtcase,dike,euthyphro,graphe,justice,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0030-hippias-minor-the-paradigm-shift--48879452
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48879452Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:19:50 +0000Ivor LudlamIn this final episode on Hippias Minor we see how the dialogue is a dramatization of the consequences of the Many's misconstrual of appearance as a good in itself. Plato has made concrete three aspects of dynamis (ability/power) in the form of the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,apparent,deigma,dynamis,end,eudicus,good,hippias,means,mimesis,paradeigma,paradigm,power,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0029-hippias-minor-conclusions--48789330
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48789330Fri, 18 Feb 2022 21:13:50 +0000Ivor LudlamConclusions are made regarding Plato's point in writing Hippias Minor, and how he went about writing it.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,apparent,appearance,deigma,dynamis,end,eudicus,good,hippias,means,paradeigma,power,real,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0028-hippias-minor-376a--48703317
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48703317Sat, 12 Feb 2022 15:32:35 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates finally concludes that if anyone performs injustice willingly, it is the just man, but neither Hippias nor Socrates is happy with this conclusion. It is often said that the dialogue ends in aporia, but there was never any dialectical attempt...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841bad,dialectic,end,eristic,hippias,just,refutation,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0027-hippias-minor-375d--48591190
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48591190Fri, 04 Feb 2022 19:34:30 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates makes one last attempt to have Hippias realize that ability is only a means and not a good end in itself. He posits justice as an ability. Were justice really an ability, we would need to regard it as an ability with necessarily good ends...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,dynamis,end,episteme,eristic,hippias,just,knowledge,socrates,soul,understandingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0026-hippias-minor-375b--48478904
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48478904Fri, 28 Jan 2022 07:42:54 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues to attempt to make Hippias rethink the notion that ability per se is good. Having questioned whether doing bad willingly (with ability) is better than doing bad unwillingly (without ability, and hence without choice) with regard to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841archer,bad,doctor,eristic,hippias,horse,refutation,slave,socrates,soul,techne,willingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0025-hippias-minor-374e--48387586
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48387586Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:12:28 +0000Ivor LudlamIn this eristic movement concerning the choice between two equally bad outcomes, one with ability (willingly) and one without ability (unwillingly) Socrates moves from inanimate tools to animate tools, such as horses, dogs, archers, where the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,bad,eristic,hippias,socrates,soul,worthlessfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0024-hippias-minor-374b--48308537
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48308537Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:30:20 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates continues his attempts to make Hippias realize that ability is a means, and not a good end in itself, by asking which bad end is preferable, the one by choice (with ability) or the one without choice (without ability). His examples turn to...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,bad,body,disgraceful,eristics,good,hippias,socrates,willing,worthlessfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0023-hippias-minor-373d--48204291
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48204291Fri, 07 Jan 2022 16:05:43 +0000Ivor LudlamIs the intentional or the unintentional wrongdoer better? Hippias effectively contradicts his escape clause (where he pointed out that the intentional wrongdoer is considered by the Many to be worse) by choosing the intentional wrongdoer (Hippias has...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,end,eristics,hippias,intentional,means,runner,socrates,sport,wrestlerfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0022-hippias-minor-373c--48129286
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48129286Sat, 01 Jan 2022 15:36:50 +0000Ivor LudlamEudicus brings Hippias back into the conversation. Hippias agrees to be questioned again. Socrates exploits Hippias' attempted escape clause to move the conversation from the ability to lie to the ability to do wrong.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eristics,eudicus,hippias,lying,socrates,themany,wrongdoingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0021-hippias-minor-373a--48061595
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48061595Sun, 26 Dec 2021 10:34:10 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates cashes in on his investment at the beginning of the dialogue. Eudicus is availed upon to bring Hippias back into the conversation. Socrates is now able to play on Hippias' two contradictory criteria by which the ability to do wrong is either...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,bad,eristics,eudicus,good,hippias,socrates,willingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0020-hippias-minor-372c--47976720
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47976720Sat, 18 Dec 2021 16:40:48 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates does not allow Hippias to escape, but begins buttering up Hippias in an effort to return him to the conversation. This does not work, and Hippias remains uncooperative. Socrates will move on to stronger tactics next time. All of this marks...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eristics,hippias,pupil,socrates,teacher,transitionfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0019-hippias-minor-371d--47880017
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47880017Sat, 11 Dec 2021 12:03:40 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates springs the double trap. Hippias escapes by moving the goalposts, from simple lying (the able person can lie or tell the truth at will and is therefore better) to injustice (no able person doing injustice willingly is considered better than...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841eristic,escape,hippias,injustice,lying,refutation,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0018-hippias-minor-370e--47679059
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47679059Sat, 27 Nov 2021 11:43:55 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates at the beginning of the eristic debate had made Hippias interpret "polytropos" negatively as "unsimple" and "lying", making Odysseus very bad in contrast to Achilles the truthful and simple. Under pressure, Hippias has had to add "willingly",...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,eristic,hippias,lying,odysseus,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0017-hippias-minor-369d--47565752
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47565752Fri, 19 Nov 2021 23:23:52 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates demonstrates how Homeric characters should be analysed - by comparing what they say with what they do. Could Plato be hinting at the way Platonic characters should be analysed? Socrates provocatively calls Achilles a liar for declaring his...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,characteranalysis,hippias,homer,liar,odysseus,phthia,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0016-hippias-minor-369c--47502136
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47502136Tue, 16 Nov 2021 13:31:31 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates derails Hippias' attempt to turn the eristic competition into a rhetorical competition. Socrates praises Hippias while incidentally touching upon the art of learning and the art of judging character.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841character,criteria,criterion,eristics,hippias,judging,learning,rhetoric,socrates,teachingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0015-hippias-minor-368e--47442181
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47442181Fri, 12 Nov 2021 13:24:36 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates allows Hippias to escape being refuted, and Hippias proposes a straight rhetorical debate with speech and counter-speech, to prove that the true Achilles and the false Odysseus are two different people. The audience (Eudicus and friends)...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,false,hippias,refutation,rhetoric,socrates,speech,truefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0014-hippias-minor-368a--47386277
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47386277Tue, 09 Nov 2021 07:57:52 +0000Ivor LudlamHippias polytropos. Socrates never calls Hippias explicitly "polytropos", but he does point out how many technai (skills) Hippias is an expert in. He also goes out of his way to indicate that Hippias is always advertising his expertise in many...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841agora,epideigma,epideixis,exhibition,hippias,oilflask,olympia,preparedwritings,ring,sandals,socrates,technai,technefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0013-hippias-minor-367d--47346476
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47346476Sat, 06 Nov 2021 12:33:04 +0000Ivor LudlamHippias is happy for Socrates to publicize Hippias' ability in calculation, geometry, and astronomy, although Hippias' ability to lie and tell the truth in all these fields would seem to aid Socrates' general argument that the false and the true man...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,able,astronomy,calculation,eristics,expert,expertise,false,geometry,good,hippias,refutation,socrates,truefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0012-hippias-minor-367a--47275821
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47275821Tue, 02 Nov 2021 15:57:28 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates eristically refutes Hippias' claim that Achilles is better than Odysseus by arguing that the true and the false are actually the same, but Hippias just as eristically escapes the refutation. Socrates until now had incidentally shown that...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841able,achilles,eristics,false,firstrefutation,hippias,mostable,mostpolytropos,odysseus,polytropos,socrates,truefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0011-hippias-minor-366d--47219515
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47219515Fri, 29 Oct 2021 16:17:23 +0000Ivor LudlamSo what was Hippias' prepared speech on Achilles, Nestor, and Odysseus about? And for what purpose? Being most able and most polytropos is distinguished.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,aristos,best,dunatotatos,exhibition,hippias,mostable,mostexpert,mostpolytropos,nestor,odysseus,setpiece,socrates,sophotatosfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0010-hippias-minor-366a--47101124
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47101124Fri, 22 Oct 2021 16:36:55 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates seems to have no idea how to win.an eristic debate. Instead of making the audience laugh at Hippias, he allows the sophist to agree that he, Hippias, is the most able, most expert, and best, at arithmetic.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ablest,best,eristics,expertest,hippias,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0009-hippias-minor-365d--47005076
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47005076Sat, 16 Oct 2021 13:44:18 +0000Ivor LudlamHomer is finally dropped from the conversation. Hippias will say what he and Homer think... Socrates asks about the false person, and Hippias in response, because of eristic choices (Black or White, no Grey) offered by Socrates, attributes to the...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841ability,control,dunamis,dynamis,eristics,expertise,hippias,homer,litcrit,phronimos,power,prudent,pseud,socrates,sophiafalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0008-hippias-minor-365b--46865419
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46865419Tue, 12 Oct 2021 17:50:47 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates uses the eristic debate to predict what Hippias will say. Because Socrates attributes polytropos to Achilles, Hippias is required by eristics to give the term a negative connotation and reattribute it to Odysseus. LSJ, the Greek-English...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,eristics,hippias,homer,lsjwrong,odysseus,polytropos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0007-hippias-minor-364e--46855519
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46855519Thu, 07 Oct 2021 13:41:49 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates is confused about the most obvious thing in Homer's Odyssey, applying Odysseus' epithet to Achilles. Hippias then has to explain that Achilles is better than Odysseus precisely because Achilles is not polytropos while Odysseus is. Socrates'...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,declamation,hippias,homer,odysseus,polytropos,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0006-hippias-minor-364c--46850742
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46850742Wed, 06 Oct 2021 15:55:07 +0000Ivor LudlamApparently Hippias has a prepared speech for his exhibitions in which he claims that Homer made Achilles the best, Nestor the most expert, and Odysseus the most polytropos. Socrates is puzzled (only) by the last example, despite this epithet appearing...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,aristos,best,character,deigma,drama,exhibition,expert,hippias,nestor,odysseus,paradeigma,paradigm,plato,polytropos,prepared,socrates,sophist,sophosfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0005-hippias-minor-364b--46758368
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46758368Fri, 01 Oct 2021 14:43:17 +0000Ivor LudlamThe changing faces of Socrates' first question about Achilles and Odysseus. What is the connection between Hippias and the three Homeric heroes, Achilles, Nestor, and Odysseus?
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,elenchus,exhibition,hippias,nestor,odysseus,question,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0004-hippias-minor-363c--46757465
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46757465Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:54:27 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates, Hippias, and Eudicus cooperate to create a competition between Socrates and Hippias.
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841competition,deigma,elis,epideixis,eristics,eudicus,exhibition,hippias,hippiasminor,olympia,sample,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0003-hippias-minor-363b--46680980
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46680980Sat, 25 Sep 2021 11:53:20 +0000Ivor LudlamSocrates begins spinning his web. Using Eudicus' father, Socrates restricts Hippias, who hasn't even entered this conversation yet, to discussing just Achilles and Odysseus, and to supporting Achilles as the better hero, which everyone knows to be...
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841achilles,agathos,apemantus,eudicus,fine,good,homer,iliad,kalos,odysseus,odyssey,socratesfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0002-hippias-minor-363a--46653225
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46653225Thu, 23 Sep 2021 15:51:25 +0000Ivor LudlamWhy is Socrates silent? Who is Eudicus? These and other non-philosophical questions meet us immediately at the beginning of Plato's Hippias Minor
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841dialectic,eudicus,exhibition,hippias,hippiasminor,socrates,sophist,whysosilent?falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/0001-plato-and-paradigms--46942287
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46942287Mon, 20 Sep 2021 17:48:00 +0000Ivor LudlamHow did Plato really intend his dialogues to be read? If everything in a dialogue is taken into account, we don't need to guess. In this series, I'll demonstrate with a close reading of a few short dialogues what Platonic dialogues are actually about....
Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go.

The resulting analyses may be found at:

https://theplatoparadigm.com]]>841deigma,dialogue,drama,paradeigma,philosophy,plato,platonism,shiftfalsefull