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<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:podcast="https://podcastindex.org/namespace/1.0" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" version="2.0"><channel><title>Workplace Stories by RedThread Research</title><link>http://redthreadresearch.com/podcast</link><description><![CDATA[Workplace Stories is a podcast for HR and people leaders who are tired of noise and need clarity that actually holds up. It is hosted by Stacia Garr and Dani Johnson of RedThread Research.<br /><br />Each episode features candid conversations with practitioners, thinkers, and executives who are navigating real decisions inside complex organizations. Not hypotheticals. Not vendor promises. Real tradeoffs, real experiments, and real lessons learned along the way.<br /><br />You’ll hear how leaders are making sense of skills, AI, organizational design, and culture when there’s no clear playbook and pressure to show progress is high. The focus is always the same: what’s actually working, what isn’t, and what leaders are doing next.<br /><br />Workplace Stories helps you make sense of complexity, build credibility with evidence, and move from ideas to action with more confidence.<br /><br />Want to be part of the conversation? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/pricing" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Join our community for free</a> and connect with others shaping the future of work.<br /><br />Learn more about RedThread Research here: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/home" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redthreadresearch.com/home</a> ]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/4800257/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Management</category><copyright>RedThread Research 2026</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48f82915396d22a82e8e5b9b202f0df2.jpg</url><title>Workplace Stories by RedThread Research</title><link>http://redthreadresearch.com/podcast</link></image><lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 05:04:13 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:name><itunes:email>hello@redthreadresearch.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48f82915396d22a82e8e5b9b202f0df2.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>Workplace Stories is a podcast for HR and people leaders who are tired of noise and need clarity that actually holds up. It is hosted by Stacia Garr and Dani Johnson of RedThread Research.

Each episode features candid conversations with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Workplace Stories is a podcast for HR and people leaders who are tired of noise and need clarity that actually holds up. It is hosted by Stacia Garr and Dani Johnson of RedThread Research.<br /><br />Each episode features candid conversations with practitioners, thinkers, and executives who are navigating real decisions inside complex organizations. Not hypotheticals. Not vendor promises. Real tradeoffs, real experiments, and real lessons learned along the way.<br /><br />You’ll hear how leaders are making sense of skills, AI, organizational design, and culture when there’s no clear playbook and pressure to show progress is high. The focus is always the same: what’s actually working, what isn’t, and what leaders are doing next.<br /><br />Workplace Stories helps you make sense of complexity, build credibility with evidence, and move from ideas to action with more confidence.<br /><br />Want to be part of the conversation? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/pricing" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Join our community for free</a> and connect with others shaping the future of work.<br /><br />Learn more about RedThread Research here: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/home" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://redthreadresearch.com/home</a> ]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Business"><itunes:category text="Management"/></itunes:category><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><item><title>Preparing Students for the AI-Driven Workplace: Michael Noble</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/preparing-students-for-the-ai-driven-workplace-michael-noble--72851353</link><description><![CDATA[Artificial intelligence is transforming not just our workplaces, but the very nature of education and professional development. Our guest this week, Michael Noble, Vice President of Academic Program Development at Western Governors University (WGU), shares his views on how higher education can rise to the current moment, bridging the gap between academic learning, employable skills, and the changing needs of the workforce. We also dig into how WGU’s innovative approach might become a template for organizations and educational institutions navigating the AI era. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Upskilling entry-level talent with AI</li><li>[03:59] Integrating liberal arts with tech skills</li><li>[09:34] Discussing higher education trends</li><li>[15:36] Creating personalized skill-based curriculums</li><li>[26:13] Leveraging WGU's alumni network</li><li>[29:14] Challenges in employee development</li><li>[31:43] Impact of AI on job training</li><li>[35:17] Integrating philosophy into the curriculum</li><li>[48:40] Specialization vs. flexibility</li><li>[55:28] Finding fulfillment through creative work</li></ul><b><br /><br />From Degree to Competency</b><br /><b><br /></b>Higher education is experiencing a moment of reckoning around its relevance for today's job market. Traditional models have long focused on grades and credit hours, but WGU centers its model on competency-based education. Students demonstrate mastery of validated competencies—skills verified through rigorous assessment, rather than simply accumulating classroom hours or participation credits. This approach better aligns with employer demands, emphasizing what learners can actually do rather than what they have passively experienced.<br /><br />WGU’s adaptability has enabled it to cater to working adults seeking career advancement, and to students entering directly from high school, who now make up over 40% of its enrollment. By focusing on practical skills and direct assessment, WGU is closing the gap between academic learning and the immediate needs of employers, allowing for more individualized and efficient upskilling.<br /><b><br />The Power and Challenge of University-Corporate Partnerships</b><br /><b><br /></b>With AI and automation taking over many entry-level tasks, companies and universities face a new imperative: how do we prepare new hires for roles that require immediate impact and advanced judgment, skipping the traditional ramp-up provided by routine tasks? We discuss WGU’s partnerships with companies like CVS Health, where tailored programs help pharmacy techs advance within the organization and are supported by real-time competency and skills data.<br /><br />Internships, micro-internships, and simulated externships emerged as critical solutions for giving students hands-on, relevant experience. Aligning incentives between corporations seeking skilled workers and universities eager to prove their graduates’ real-world readiness could radically reshape how both sectors approach workforce entry.<b><br /><br />AI as a Catalyst for Change in Learning and Development</b><br /><b><br /></b>AI isn’t just changing what skills are needed, but how learning itself happens. WGU is embracing AI-native tools—virtual assistants for students, personalized learning feedback, and AI-assisted evaluation—to both scale quality learning and support the work of instructors and curriculum developers.<br /><br />This technological shift is also transforming the structure of learning and development teams. Specialists are becoming “augmented generalists,” using AI tools to speed up design, delivery, and personalization, but the need for deep expertise and sound judgment remains crucial. Just because something looks polished doesn’t mean it’s fully accurate or effective.<br />Recognizing that many students lack the networking advantages of elite institutions, WGU is using its growing alumni network, piloting programs that help students connect with industry veterans, and offering achievement “wallets” to showcase their skills and experiences—key ingredients in leveling the playing field for career advancement.<b><br /><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.wgu.edu/about/governance/president.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Office of the President Scott Pulsipher</a> </li><li><a href="https://gufaculty360.georgetown.edu/s/contact/0033600001rcq9iAAA/bryan-alexander" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bryan Alexander: Georgetown University</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographyginsburg.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ruth Bader Ginsburg</a></li><li><a href="https://themip.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Midwest Innocence Project</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Michael Noble<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelnoble/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Michael Noble on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With RedThread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72851353</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2026 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72851353/ws_131_update.mp3" length="48695543" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1l5h_TOCQVc1XxFkQnhh6SKCMKBvcMNjD/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=111848539757714868899&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Artificial intelligence is transforming not just our workplaces, but the very nature of education and professional development. Our guest this week, Michael Noble, Vice President of Academic Program Development at Western Governors University (WGU),...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Artificial intelligence is transforming not just our workplaces, but the very nature of education and professional development. Our guest this week, Michael Noble, Vice President of Academic Program Development at Western Governors University (WGU), shares his views on how higher education can rise to the current moment, bridging the gap between academic learning, employable skills, and the changing needs of the workforce. We also dig into how WGU’s innovative approach might become a template for organizations and educational institutions navigating the AI era. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Upskilling entry-level talent with AI</li><li>[03:59] Integrating liberal arts with tech skills</li><li>[09:34] Discussing higher education trends</li><li>[15:36] Creating personalized skill-based curriculums</li><li>[26:13] Leveraging WGU's alumni network</li><li>[29:14] Challenges in employee development</li><li>[31:43] Impact of AI on job training</li><li>[35:17] Integrating philosophy into the curriculum</li><li>[48:40] Specialization vs. flexibility</li><li>[55:28] Finding fulfillment through creative work</li></ul><b><br /><br />From Degree to Competency</b><br /><b><br /></b>Higher education is experiencing a moment of reckoning around its relevance for today's job market. Traditional models have long focused on grades and credit hours, but WGU centers its model on competency-based education. Students demonstrate mastery of validated competencies—skills verified through rigorous assessment, rather than simply accumulating classroom hours or participation credits. This approach better aligns with employer demands, emphasizing what learners can actually do rather than what they have passively experienced.<br /><br />WGU’s adaptability has enabled it to cater to working adults seeking career advancement, and to students entering directly from high school, who now make up over 40% of its enrollment. By focusing on practical skills and direct assessment, WGU is closing the gap between academic learning and the immediate needs of employers, allowing for more individualized and efficient upskilling.<br /><b><br />The Power and Challenge of University-Corporate Partnerships</b><br /><b><br /></b>With AI and automation taking over many entry-level tasks, companies and universities face a new imperative: how do we prepare new hires for roles that require immediate impact and advanced judgment, skipping the traditional ramp-up provided by routine tasks? We discuss WGU’s partnerships with companies like CVS Health, where tailored programs help pharmacy techs advance within the organization and are supported by real-time competency and skills data.<br /><br />Internships, micro-internships, and simulated externships emerged as critical solutions for giving students hands-on, relevant experience. Aligning incentives between corporations seeking skilled workers and universities eager to prove their graduates’ real-world readiness could radically reshape how both sectors approach workforce entry.<b><br /><br />AI as a Catalyst for Change in Learning and Development</b><br /><b><br /></b>AI isn’t just changing what skills are needed, but how learning itself happens. WGU is embracing AI-native tools—virtual assistants for students, personalized learning feedback, and AI-assisted evaluation—to both scale quality learning and support the work of instructors and curriculum developers.<br /><br />This technological shift is also transforming the structure of learning and development teams. Specialists are becoming “augmented generalists,” using AI tools to speed up design, delivery, and personalization, but the need for deep expertise and sound judgment remains crucial. Just because something looks polished doesn’t mean it’s fully accurate or effective.<br />Recognizing that many students lack the networking advantages of elite institutions, WGU is using its growing...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3479</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,michaelnoble,preparingyoungpeopleforwork,upskillingstudents,westerngovernorsuniversity,wgo,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/818573cbe60bcbf51d9a2e815e0d196a.jpg"/><itunes:episode>131</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Three Paths for L&amp;D in the Age of AI: Don Taylor &amp; Egle Vinauskaite</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/three-paths-for-l-d-in-the-age-of-ai-don-taylor-egle-vinauskaite--72534324</link><description><![CDATA[Learning and Development (L&amp;D) is at a crossroads. As artificial intelligence (AI) accelerates changes in the workplace, L&amp;D’s traditional stronghold—the creation and curation of content—is rapidly losing its strategic value. In this episode, I discuss the rapidly evolving intersection of AI and Learning &amp; Development (L&amp;D) with Don Taylor and Egla Vinauskaite. Our conversation explores how the AI “on ramp” has disappeared, leaving many L&amp;D organizations feeling left behind, and highlights the importance of direction, not just decision, for real transformation.  <br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[05:56] Early years of AI in L&amp;D</li><li>[08:16] Adapting to AI in Industry</li><li>[18:44] Technological turmoil and AI evolution</li><li>[20:29] Challenges in transforming organizations</li><li>[25:40] Decision-making and organizational hierarchy</li><li>[28:59] Importance of fieldwork and presence</li><li>[37:42] Understanding Drag in L and D</li><li>[46:49] Role of a Leader in Change</li><li>[53:40] Activating independent organizational growth</li></ul><b><br /><br />The Vanishing ‘On-Ramp’ and the Challenge of Catching Up</b><br /><b><br /></b>The rapid evolution of AI in the workplace has created a new sense of urgency for L&amp;D teams. In 2023, everyone was at the same starting line, experimenting with generative AI tools for the first time. Now, the landscape has shifted dramatically, with advanced conversations moving toward AI agents and full-scale workforce transformation. Those who didn’t jump on the AI bandwagon early are finding it increasingly difficult to catch up, with the “on-ramp” to entry effectively gone for newcomers. This sense of inaccessibility is causing some people to self-select out of L&amp;D entirely, feeling left behind by the accelerating pace of change.<br /><b><br />The Disappearing Content Moat</b><br /><b><br /></b>For years, L&amp;D has built its identity around its expertise in content creation—the so-called “moat” that protects its value. But the rise of AI has reduced the barriers to creating effective learning content. Anyone can now create quality resources with minimal expertise, eroding the unique advantage L&amp;D once held. Content can no longer be the cornerstone of L&amp;D’s strategy. Instead, L&amp;D needs to determine its new value proposition in a world where content is ubiquitous.<br /><b><br />The Transformation Triangle</b><br /><b><br /></b>The Transformation Triangle proposes three potential futures for L&amp;D organizations.<br /><b><br /></b>Skills Authority: Organizations that pursue this path become the go-to stewards for everything related to skills in the business—tracking what skills exist, what’s needed, and how to develop them. They treat skills as a critical business asset and ensure the organization stays competitive by closing gaps efficiently.<br /><br />Enablement Partner: Acting as connectors rather than creators, these organizations focus on surfacing, amplifying, and distributing the expertise already embedded within the workforce. Their role is to ensure knowledge flows efficiently where it’s needed to elevate performance organization-wide.<br /><br />Adaptation Engine: The most transformative model, these teams see themselves as stewards of organizational adaptability. They diagnose and address performance issues as complex systems problems—sometimes solving them through learning, but often intervening through process or tool changes to maximize business impact.<br /><br />None of these are final destinations—organizations may move between them, combine elements, or adapt over time.<br /><b><br />Overcoming Structural, Cultural, and Capability Drag</b><br /><b><br /></b>Achieving escape velocity from the gravitational pull of content-focused L&amp;D isn’t easy. In the conversation, we identify three types of “drag” that hold teams back:<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li>Structural drag: Where L&amp;D sits in the org chart and its direct authority.</li><li>Cultural drag: Long-standing perceptions of L&amp;D’s role as content creators.</li><li>Capability drag: Skills and mindsets required to operate in new, more impactful ways.</li></ul><br />Successfully overcoming these drags and embedding new models into systems and infrastructure. ensures changes stick even as leaders come and go.<b><br /><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk/speakers/donald-h-taylor" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learning Technologies in the Workplace by Don Taylor</a></li><li><a href="https://code.claude.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Claude Code</a></li><li><a href="https://claude.com/product/cowork" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Claude Cowork</a></li><li><a href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Microsoft Copilot</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nodes.works/newsletter" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">One of Each | Newsletter by Nodes</a></li><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/global-sentiment-survey-2025/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Global Sentiment Survey</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Don Taylor &amp; Egle Vinauskaite<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinauskaite/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Egle Vinauskaite on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldhtaylor/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Don Taylor on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With RedThread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72534324</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72534324/ws_130_1.mp3" length="49501184" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zlR9fMU5--BoBFGMgQ5P2GofY8hlvZ4su_bPUARxwMo/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Learning and Development (L&amp;amp;D) is at a crossroads. As artificial intelligence (AI) accelerates changes in the workplace, L&amp;amp;D’s traditional stronghold—the creation and curation of content—is rapidly losing its strategic value. In this episode,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Learning and Development (L&amp;D) is at a crossroads. As artificial intelligence (AI) accelerates changes in the workplace, L&amp;D’s traditional stronghold—the creation and curation of content—is rapidly losing its strategic value. In this episode, I discuss the rapidly evolving intersection of AI and Learning &amp; Development (L&amp;D) with Don Taylor and Egla Vinauskaite. Our conversation explores how the AI “on ramp” has disappeared, leaving many L&amp;D organizations feeling left behind, and highlights the importance of direction, not just decision, for real transformation.  <br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[05:56] Early years of AI in L&amp;D</li><li>[08:16] Adapting to AI in Industry</li><li>[18:44] Technological turmoil and AI evolution</li><li>[20:29] Challenges in transforming organizations</li><li>[25:40] Decision-making and organizational hierarchy</li><li>[28:59] Importance of fieldwork and presence</li><li>[37:42] Understanding Drag in L and D</li><li>[46:49] Role of a Leader in Change</li><li>[53:40] Activating independent organizational growth</li></ul><b><br /><br />The Vanishing ‘On-Ramp’ and the Challenge of Catching Up</b><br /><b><br /></b>The rapid evolution of AI in the workplace has created a new sense of urgency for L&amp;D teams. In 2023, everyone was at the same starting line, experimenting with generative AI tools for the first time. Now, the landscape has shifted dramatically, with advanced conversations moving toward AI agents and full-scale workforce transformation. Those who didn’t jump on the AI bandwagon early are finding it increasingly difficult to catch up, with the “on-ramp” to entry effectively gone for newcomers. This sense of inaccessibility is causing some people to self-select out of L&amp;D entirely, feeling left behind by the accelerating pace of change.<br /><b><br />The Disappearing Content Moat</b><br /><b><br /></b>For years, L&amp;D has built its identity around its expertise in content creation—the so-called “moat” that protects its value. But the rise of AI has reduced the barriers to creating effective learning content. Anyone can now create quality resources with minimal expertise, eroding the unique advantage L&amp;D once held. Content can no longer be the cornerstone of L&amp;D’s strategy. Instead, L&amp;D needs to determine its new value proposition in a world where content is ubiquitous.<br /><b><br />The Transformation Triangle</b><br /><b><br /></b>The Transformation Triangle proposes three potential futures for L&amp;D organizations.<br /><b><br /></b>Skills Authority: Organizations that pursue this path become the go-to stewards for everything related to skills in the business—tracking what skills exist, what’s needed, and how to develop them. They treat skills as a critical business asset and ensure the organization stays competitive by closing gaps efficiently.<br /><br />Enablement Partner: Acting as connectors rather than creators, these organizations focus on surfacing, amplifying, and distributing the expertise already embedded within the workforce. Their role is to ensure knowledge flows efficiently where it’s needed to elevate performance organization-wide.<br /><br />Adaptation Engine: The most transformative model, these teams see themselves as stewards of organizational adaptability. They diagnose and address performance issues as complex systems problems—sometimes solving them through learning, but often intervening through process or tool changes to maximize business impact.<br /><br />None of these are final destinations—organizations may move between them, combine elements, or adapt over time.<br /><b><br />Overcoming Structural, Cultural, and Capability Drag</b><br /><b><br /></b>Achieving escape velocity from the gravitational pull of content-focused L&amp;D isn’t easy. In the conversation, we identify three types of “drag” that hold teams back:<b><br /></b><br...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3536</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>dontaylor,eglevinauskaite,learningtechnologies,redthreadresearch,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/91abc9029b2b209d1f6e75d6561044da.jpg"/><itunes:episode>130</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Inside Hearst Networks’ Culture and Profit Revolution: Lucy King &amp; Dean Possenniskie</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/inside-hearst-networks-culture-and-profit-revolution-lucy-king-dean-possenniskie--72417822</link><description><![CDATA[Organizational change is now a constant rather than a phase. Few stories illustrate this better than Hearst Networks’ journey, as shared by Dean Possenniskie, CEO, and Lucy King, Chief People Officer, on this episode of Workplace Stories. Moving from a legacy cable business into a diversified, higher-margin media powerhouse, Hearst proves that reinvention is possible not just for startups but for well-established companies with deep roots and long histories.<br /><b><br /></b>Hearst, an organization with a legacy and heritage, and a willingness to continually reinvent itself, has adopted the “phoenix” metaphor to frame its transformation. They’ve made hard choices, like closing brands, exiting joint ventures, and even shutting offices, before expanding into new partnerships with giants like Sky, Amazon, Apple, and YouTube.<b><br /> </b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[07:59] Working in HR during transformations</li><li>[12:36] Transitioning to full Hearst ownership</li><li>[18:29] Crafting a purpose statement</li><li>[21:12] Why it pays to implement a coaching mindset</li><li>[25:30] Investing in learning and development</li><li>[32:11] Defining company values and culture</li><li>[37:08] Improving profitability and growth focus</li><li>[39:16] Valuing autonomy and trust at Hearst</li><li>[44:15] Encouraging innovation company-wide</li><li>[47:14] Balancing governance with creative autonomy</li></ul><b><br /><br />Culture at the Core</b><br /><b><br /></b>Culture is often seen as a soft layer, a set of values on a wall, or the flavor of the latest offsite. Dean Possenniskie and Lucy King see it differently: culture had to be the engine of transformation, integral to performance and strategy. One of Dean’s earliest moves was to reposition the people and culture function away from finance, placing it directly alongside the CEO—a signal of culture’s importance as a business driver.<br /><br />The results speak for themselves. While revenues declined 20%, margins grew by more than 40%, and internal workplace surveys saw “great place to work” scores leap from 53% to over 80%. This wasn’t about being “nice,” but about creating a place where people could do their best work, take risks, and feel empowered.<br /><b><br />Building Change Muscle</b><br /><b><br /></b>A core tenet of Hearst’s approach to transformation was empowerment at every level. Lucy describes removing archaic performance systems and replacing them with coaching-centered one-to-ones, helping managers foster a sense of ownership, capability, and resilience in their teams. The organization invested in professional coaching for anyone, at any level, who requested it, a significant commitment, but one tailored for maximum impact rather than blanket sameness.<br /><br />This was complemented with mentoring, leveraging technology to link senior leaders with mentees across the company. This “bottom-up” ethos even shaped their AI and technology adoption: rather than mandating tools from the top, creative, programming, and scheduling teams were given room to experiment and bring forward the solutions that actually worked for them.<br /><b><br />The Power of Purpose and the “Deal”</b><br /><b><br /></b>Change is unsettling, and ambiguity can erode trust. To anchor their people, the leadership spent months articulating a purpose statement—a north star for decision-making and daily work. More boldly, they introduced “our deal,” a written two-way document explaining not just what the company expected from employees, but what employees could expect in return: support, development, and clear direction.<br /><br />Dean describes this as adult-to-adult relationship building. It’s about empowering personal leadership and ownership, backed by transparent communication—even when delivering hard messages or acknowledging failures. As they say, “we learn fast, not fail fast.”<br /><b><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.hearst.com/about" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">About - HEARST</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Leave-Something-Table-Surprising-Business/dp/1982114150" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Leave Something on the Table: and Other Surprising Lessons for Success in Business and in Life by Frank Bennack </a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Problem-Change-Essential-Nature-Performance-ebook/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Problem with Change: And the Essential Nature of Human Performance Kindle Edition by Ashley Goodall </a></li><li><a href="https://insights.starlingtrust.com/content/compendium/peer-perspectives-organizational-culture-is-caught-not-taught" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Understand the network dynamics of culture</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ynharari.com/book/sapiens/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">'Sapiens' by Yuval Noah Harari</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Lucy King and Dean Possenniskie<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.hearstnetworks.com/leadership/lucy-king" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lucy King | Hearst Networks EMEA</a></li><li> <a href="https://www.hearstnetworks.com/leadership/dean-possenniskie" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dean Possenniskie | Hearst Networks EMEA</a> </li></ul><b>      Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72417822</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2026 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72417822/ws_129.mp3" length="43974875" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/102jU4uLl3wnLjgD4ysqo-P0_og4qiTPTtyUecIbUfG4/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Organizational change is now a constant rather than a phase. Few stories illustrate this better than Hearst Networks’ journey, as shared by Dean Possenniskie, CEO, and Lucy King, Chief People Officer, on this episode of Workplace Stories. Moving from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Organizational change is now a constant rather than a phase. Few stories illustrate this better than Hearst Networks’ journey, as shared by Dean Possenniskie, CEO, and Lucy King, Chief People Officer, on this episode of Workplace Stories. Moving from a legacy cable business into a diversified, higher-margin media powerhouse, Hearst proves that reinvention is possible not just for startups but for well-established companies with deep roots and long histories.<br /><b><br /></b>Hearst, an organization with a legacy and heritage, and a willingness to continually reinvent itself, has adopted the “phoenix” metaphor to frame its transformation. They’ve made hard choices, like closing brands, exiting joint ventures, and even shutting offices, before expanding into new partnerships with giants like Sky, Amazon, Apple, and YouTube.<b><br /> </b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[07:59] Working in HR during transformations</li><li>[12:36] Transitioning to full Hearst ownership</li><li>[18:29] Crafting a purpose statement</li><li>[21:12] Why it pays to implement a coaching mindset</li><li>[25:30] Investing in learning and development</li><li>[32:11] Defining company values and culture</li><li>[37:08] Improving profitability and growth focus</li><li>[39:16] Valuing autonomy and trust at Hearst</li><li>[44:15] Encouraging innovation company-wide</li><li>[47:14] Balancing governance with creative autonomy</li></ul><b><br /><br />Culture at the Core</b><br /><b><br /></b>Culture is often seen as a soft layer, a set of values on a wall, or the flavor of the latest offsite. Dean Possenniskie and Lucy King see it differently: culture had to be the engine of transformation, integral to performance and strategy. One of Dean’s earliest moves was to reposition the people and culture function away from finance, placing it directly alongside the CEO—a signal of culture’s importance as a business driver.<br /><br />The results speak for themselves. While revenues declined 20%, margins grew by more than 40%, and internal workplace surveys saw “great place to work” scores leap from 53% to over 80%. This wasn’t about being “nice,” but about creating a place where people could do their best work, take risks, and feel empowered.<br /><b><br />Building Change Muscle</b><br /><b><br /></b>A core tenet of Hearst’s approach to transformation was empowerment at every level. Lucy describes removing archaic performance systems and replacing them with coaching-centered one-to-ones, helping managers foster a sense of ownership, capability, and resilience in their teams. The organization invested in professional coaching for anyone, at any level, who requested it, a significant commitment, but one tailored for maximum impact rather than blanket sameness.<br /><br />This was complemented with mentoring, leveraging technology to link senior leaders with mentees across the company. This “bottom-up” ethos even shaped their AI and technology adoption: rather than mandating tools from the top, creative, programming, and scheduling teams were given room to experiment and bring forward the solutions that actually worked for them.<br /><b><br />The Power of Purpose and the “Deal”</b><br /><b><br /></b>Change is unsettling, and ambiguity can erode trust. To anchor their people, the leadership spent months articulating a purpose statement—a north star for decision-making and daily work. More boldly, they introduced “our deal,” a written two-way document explaining not just what the company expected from employees, but what employees could expect in return: support, development, and clear direction.<br /><br />Dean describes this as adult-to-adult relationship building. It’s about empowering personal leadership and ownership, backed by transparent communication—even when delivering hard messages or acknowledging failures. As they say, “we learn fast, not fail fast.”<br /><b><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3141</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>culture,deanpossenniskie,hearst,lucyking,redthreadresearch,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6100aa9b019f1605df34bbaf789808a3.jpg"/><itunes:episode>129</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How McKinsey Is Rewiring L&amp;D for the AI Age: Heather Stefanski</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-mckinsey-is-rewiring-l-d-for-the-ai-age-heather-stefanski--72055135</link><description><![CDATA[<b>This week on the podcast, we welcome Heather Stefanski, Chief Learning and Development Officer at McKinsey &amp; Company. We explore how organizations like McKinsey are reimagining employee development for the age of AI, shifting learning into the flow of work, focusing on systems and purposeful apprenticeships, and embedding L&amp;D directly into workflow design. You'll also hear all about the evolving skill sets for L&amp;D teams and the importance of updating how we measure development. <br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>00:00 Integrating development into AI assistants</li><li>04:49 Heather's role at McKinsey</li><li>08:32 Developing skills in the workplace</li><li>16:08 Designing developmental workflows with AI</li><li>24:56 Understanding skill proficiency levels</li><li>26:25 Building agentic development solutions</li><li>30:53 Assessing AI proficiency levels</li><li>33:18 Future skills focus at McKinsey</li><li>42:55 AI in performance evaluations</li><li>53:13 Using AI for feedback and review</li></ul><b><br /><br />Rethinking Language: Why Development Surpasses Training<br />One of the first shifts Heather Stefanski identifies is a deliberate move away from talking about “training” or even just “learning.” Instead, McKinsey centers its L&amp;D strategy on development, a more holistic approach that encompasses formal programs, feedback mechanisms, leadership modeling, and real-time experiences in the flow of work.<br />For McKinsey, development is inseparable from business outcomes, and employee development is critical to the firm’s value proposition. This means McKinsey designs work intentionally to be developmental, combining upskilling, leadership building, and project experiences into a seamless ecosystem.<br />Purposeful Apprenticeship<br />Heather discusses embedding rituals, such as performance check-ins and feedback sessions, directly into core workflows to build a system grounded in purposeful practices. By standardizing these rituals, McKinsey can even quantify the impact of great teachers on advancement, and L&amp;D becomes part of organizational culture rather than a siloed function.The New Learning Tech Stack<br />One of the most exciting transformations is McKinsey’s ongoing work to blend learning seamlessly into technology-enabled workflows. Rather than relying solely on traditional LMS platforms, McKinsey is embedding learning designers into business teams that are building agentic workflows—AI-powered systems that guide, prompt, and provide real-time feedback as employees work.<br />AI agents are being designed to do more than just increase productivity. Heather emphasizes that agents should also foster professional development by challenging users, prompting reflective questions, and offering immediate coaching. This shift pushes L&amp;D professionals to evolve their skills, requiring fluency not just in instructional design but in data analysis and collaborative workflow engineering.<br />What Skills Do Employees Still Need?<br />As AI tools automate routine tasks, think aligning PowerPoint columns or data cleanup, McKinsey is strategically deciding what to stop teaching, redirecting focus to what keeps the firm distinctive: problem solving, judgment, metacognition, systems thinking, and authentic leadership. Purposeful abandonment of now-obsolete skills is as vital as doubling down on those that matter, ensuring development keeps pace with the shifting demands of knowledge work.<br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisachristensen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lisa Christensen on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">mckinsey.com</a></li><li><a href="https://cursor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cursor</a></li><li><a href="https://thelearningforum.org/clo-lift" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">CLO Lift Group</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Heather Stefanski<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/heather-stefanski" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heather Stefanski at McKinsey &amp; Company</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstefanski/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heather Stefanski on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With RedThread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/72055135</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2026 12:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/72055135/ws_128.mp3" length="48502052" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IuTaUdFS5HZ2qFsdl2KEKLe52iyFqyccNB3qp8w6drg/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week on the podcast, we welcome Heather Stefanski, Chief Learning and Development Officer at McKinsey &amp;amp; Company. We explore how organizations like McKinsey are reimagining employee development for the age of AI, shifting learning into the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>This week on the podcast, we welcome Heather Stefanski, Chief Learning and Development Officer at McKinsey &amp; Company. We explore how organizations like McKinsey are reimagining employee development for the age of AI, shifting learning into the flow of work, focusing on systems and purposeful apprenticeships, and embedding L&amp;D directly into workflow design. You'll also hear all about the evolving skill sets for L&amp;D teams and the importance of updating how we measure development. <br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>00:00 Integrating development into AI assistants</li><li>04:49 Heather's role at McKinsey</li><li>08:32 Developing skills in the workplace</li><li>16:08 Designing developmental workflows with AI</li><li>24:56 Understanding skill proficiency levels</li><li>26:25 Building agentic development solutions</li><li>30:53 Assessing AI proficiency levels</li><li>33:18 Future skills focus at McKinsey</li><li>42:55 AI in performance evaluations</li><li>53:13 Using AI for feedback and review</li></ul><b><br /><br />Rethinking Language: Why Development Surpasses Training<br />One of the first shifts Heather Stefanski identifies is a deliberate move away from talking about “training” or even just “learning.” Instead, McKinsey centers its L&amp;D strategy on development, a more holistic approach that encompasses formal programs, feedback mechanisms, leadership modeling, and real-time experiences in the flow of work.<br />For McKinsey, development is inseparable from business outcomes, and employee development is critical to the firm’s value proposition. This means McKinsey designs work intentionally to be developmental, combining upskilling, leadership building, and project experiences into a seamless ecosystem.<br />Purposeful Apprenticeship<br />Heather discusses embedding rituals, such as performance check-ins and feedback sessions, directly into core workflows to build a system grounded in purposeful practices. By standardizing these rituals, McKinsey can even quantify the impact of great teachers on advancement, and L&amp;D becomes part of organizational culture rather than a siloed function.The New Learning Tech Stack<br />One of the most exciting transformations is McKinsey’s ongoing work to blend learning seamlessly into technology-enabled workflows. Rather than relying solely on traditional LMS platforms, McKinsey is embedding learning designers into business teams that are building agentic workflows—AI-powered systems that guide, prompt, and provide real-time feedback as employees work.<br />AI agents are being designed to do more than just increase productivity. Heather emphasizes that agents should also foster professional development by challenging users, prompting reflective questions, and offering immediate coaching. This shift pushes L&amp;D professionals to evolve their skills, requiring fluency not just in instructional design but in data analysis and collaborative workflow engineering.<br />What Skills Do Employees Still Need?<br />As AI tools automate routine tasks, think aligning PowerPoint columns or data cleanup, McKinsey is strategically deciding what to stop teaching, redirecting focus to what keeps the firm distinctive: problem solving, judgment, metacognition, systems thinking, and authentic leadership. Purposeful abandonment of now-obsolete skills is as vital as doubling down on those that matter, ensuring development keeps pace with the shifting demands of knowledge work.<br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisachristensen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lisa Christensen on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">mckinsey.com</a></li><li><a href="https://cursor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cursor</a></li><li><a href="https://thelearningforum.org/clo-lift" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3465</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,employeedevelopment,futureskills,heatherstefanski,mckinsey,redthreadresearch,workplacestories,wps</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e35e6893fed3cd442d94ce4e46a3dc9f.jpg"/><itunes:episode>128</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Challenges and Solutions for Supporting Frontline Teams: JD Dillon</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/challenges-and-solutions-for-supporting-frontline-teams-jd-dillon--71837876</link><description><![CDATA[Frontline workers form the massive, beating heart of the global workforce, constituting up to 80% of all employees. But their enablement, experience, and upward mobility often remain quietly neglected. We sit down with J.D. Dillon, author of the upcoming Frontline Enablement Playbook, to dissect the persistent challenges these vital employees face and explore how organizations can better support and empower the often-overlooked deskless workforce.<br />We discuss why frontline managers are structurally trapped, JD breaks down a hierarchy of frontline worker needs, and shares more about the essential role of connection—over traditional training—and why genuinely understanding, not "othering," frontline experiences is key to meaningful change. <br /><br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[00:00] How organizations support their managers</li><li>[12:08] Understanding the frontline workforce</li><li>[28:42] Improving employee retention strategies</li><li>[36:39] Measuring impact on frontline work</li><li>[40:33] Inviting in frontline employee feedback</li><li>[48:40] Challenges faced by frontline managers</li><li>[52:10] Supporting new managers effectively</li><li>[57:07] AI tools for frontline employees</li></ul><b><br /></b><br /><b>Understanding the Structural Trap for Frontline Managers</b><br /><b><br /></b>Managers are often tasked with driving outcomes, hitting KPIs, retaining staff, and resolving customer complaints, but can be denied the resources or authority necessary to actually effect change. Everything in organizations is pushed through managers, but the visibility and empowerment of frontline managers is substantially less than that of their corporate peers, making both their influence and recognition of their struggles far more limited. This leads to a burned-out, under-supported middle layer that directly impacts both employee engagement and business performance.<br /><b><br />Connection Over Content</b><br /><b><br /></b>Traditional strategies for improving frontline performance tend to default to more training or pressuring managers to be the catch-all for corporate initiatives. But this approach is not just incomplete—it may even be counterproductive. Instead of overloading managers with binders and leadership development modules, organizations should focus on fostering connection—especially enabling peer connections among frontline managers at different locations. Meaningful conversations, mentoring, and crowdsourced problem-solving trump content-driven learning. Managers, after all, best learn from each other’s lived realities, not generic directives.<br /><b><br />The Hierarchy of Frontline Needs</b><br /><b><br /></b>At the core of Dillon’s framework is a hierarchy of needs for frontline workers:<br /><ul><li>Livelihood – The basic requirement: fair pay and benefits, recognizing that for many, work is first and foremost about economic necessity.</li></ul><ul><li>Stability – Reliable schedules, clear policies, and the ability to plan life around work.</li></ul><ul><li>Community – A sense of belonging and connection with coworkers; the knowledge that one’s immediate work environment isn’t built around corporate KPIs, but relationships.</li></ul><ul><li>Culture and Purpose – The “top” of the pyramid: tying individual roles to broader organizational purpose and values.</li></ul><b><br /></b>Organizations often leap to culture-focused initiatives while neglecting the foundational layers. Without addressing pay, scheduling, and daily support first, those higher-order efforts rarely stick.<br /><b><br />Tensions, Trade-offs, and Small-Scale Change</b><br /><b><br /></b>Frontline management must constantly navigate tensions such as being tasked with outcomes but denied the necessary authority, being pushed to develop staff but overwhelmed by daily operational issues, and being measured by metrics that don’t always reflect lived realities. JD believes that these tensions don’t have simple solutions; they have to be navigated, not "fixed".<br /><br />Large-scale, top-down changes are rare. Instead, incremental improvements, like investing in small process shifts, removing single pain points for managers, or fostering peer communities, can create real traction every shift. “Every shift counts, small shifts matter,” according to JD.<br /><b><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/1562869868" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Frontline Enablement Playbook by JD Dillon</a></li><li><a href="https://a.co/d/0hkqmKyp" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sapiens by Yuval Noah Harari</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Guest Name<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://jddillon.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JD Dillon’s Website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jddillon" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">JD Dillon on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71837876</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71837876/ws_127.mp3" length="123063148" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OHHSRU2sEWnCspM9TdDu4OWseYljS3GcnPtcMNEa1u8/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Frontline workers form the massive, beating heart of the global workforce, constituting up to 80% of all employees. But their enablement, experience, and upward mobility often remain quietly neglected. We sit down with J.D. Dillon, author of the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Frontline workers form the massive, beating heart of the global workforce, constituting up to 80% of all employees. But their enablement, experience, and upward mobility often remain quietly neglected. We sit down with J.D. Dillon, author of the upcoming Frontline Enablement Playbook, to dissect the persistent challenges these vital employees face and explore how organizations can better support and empower the often-overlooked deskless workforce.<br />We discuss why frontline managers are structurally trapped, JD breaks down a hierarchy of frontline worker needs, and shares more about the essential role of connection—over traditional training—and why genuinely understanding, not "othering," frontline experiences is key to meaningful change. <br /><br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[00:00] How organizations support their managers</li><li>[12:08] Understanding the frontline workforce</li><li>[28:42] Improving employee retention strategies</li><li>[36:39] Measuring impact on frontline work</li><li>[40:33] Inviting in frontline employee feedback</li><li>[48:40] Challenges faced by frontline managers</li><li>[52:10] Supporting new managers effectively</li><li>[57:07] AI tools for frontline employees</li></ul><b><br /></b><br /><b>Understanding the Structural Trap for Frontline Managers</b><br /><b><br /></b>Managers are often tasked with driving outcomes, hitting KPIs, retaining staff, and resolving customer complaints, but can be denied the resources or authority necessary to actually effect change. Everything in organizations is pushed through managers, but the visibility and empowerment of frontline managers is substantially less than that of their corporate peers, making both their influence and recognition of their struggles far more limited. This leads to a burned-out, under-supported middle layer that directly impacts both employee engagement and business performance.<br /><b><br />Connection Over Content</b><br /><b><br /></b>Traditional strategies for improving frontline performance tend to default to more training or pressuring managers to be the catch-all for corporate initiatives. But this approach is not just incomplete—it may even be counterproductive. Instead of overloading managers with binders and leadership development modules, organizations should focus on fostering connection—especially enabling peer connections among frontline managers at different locations. Meaningful conversations, mentoring, and crowdsourced problem-solving trump content-driven learning. Managers, after all, best learn from each other’s lived realities, not generic directives.<br /><b><br />The Hierarchy of Frontline Needs</b><br /><b><br /></b>At the core of Dillon’s framework is a hierarchy of needs for frontline workers:<br /><ul><li>Livelihood – The basic requirement: fair pay and benefits, recognizing that for many, work is first and foremost about economic necessity.</li></ul><ul><li>Stability – Reliable schedules, clear policies, and the ability to plan life around work.</li></ul><ul><li>Community – A sense of belonging and connection with coworkers; the knowledge that one’s immediate work environment isn’t built around corporate KPIs, but relationships.</li></ul><ul><li>Culture and Purpose – The “top” of the pyramid: tying individual roles to broader organizational purpose and values.</li></ul><b><br /></b>Organizations often leap to culture-focused initiatives while neglecting the foundational layers. Without addressing pay, scheduling, and daily support first, those higher-order efforts rarely stick.<br /><b><br />Tensions, Trade-offs, and Small-Scale Change</b><br /><b><br /></b>Frontline management must constantly navigate tensions such as being tasked with outcomes but denied the necessary authority, being pushed to develop staff but overwhelmed by daily operational issues, and being measured by metrics that don’t always reflect lived realities. JD believes...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3846</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>frontlineenablementplaybook,frontlineworkers,jddillon,redthreadresearch,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2eae981e3fde2fa95b11cc569d5db97c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>127</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Transforming Performance Management in the Public Sector: John Barrand</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/transforming-performance-management-in-the-public-sector-john-barrand--71652875</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode, we sit down with John Barrand, CHRO for the State of Utah, to discuss an inspiring transformation in public sector performance management. John led a bold effort to overhaul Utah’s performance management system—moving it from a culture of “adequacy” and silence to one focused on learning, growth, connection, and accountability. John shares how he and his team achieved legislative change requiring quarterly check-ins, implemented management training, and shifted the state’s mindset around performance and development.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[01:16] Initial state of Utah’s performance management system</li><li>[06:23] Value of continuous learning and curiosity in government </li><li>[10:06] Defining the “why” for performance management in Utah</li><li>[17:02] Risks and Resistance in Systemic Change</li><li>[20:06] Quarterly employee check-ins initiative</li><li>[25:59] Balancing fairness and measurement without alienating staff </li><li>[34:28] Creation of a system-wide talent mobility program </li><li>[40:01] Development of incentive structures and bonus allocations </li><li>[44:22] Sustainability and future of the program</li></ul><b><br /><br />Performance Management is a Sector-Spanning Challenge</b><br /><b><br /></b>Performance management has a notorious reputation, often maligned as bureaucratic and misaligned. These challenges aren’t confined to just the private sector. Public organizations often face a wealth of bureaucracy and challenges that can inhibit transformation, compounded by a cultural tendency towards silence and an adequacy mindset.<br /><br />When John assumed his role in 2021 for the state of Utah, over 70% of employees had an “unknown” performance rating, and only 16% had received annual reviews. The pervasive culture of silence fostered disengagement and suspicion, and performance management, where it occurred, was simply about maintaining adequacy—a relic from nearly a century and a half of defensive bureaucracy.<br /><b><br />From Compliance to Connection</b><br /><b><br /></b>The first pivotal move was defining purpose. Clarity on the “why” behind performance management is crucial. For Utah, the why was growth: enabling employees to learn and grow while retaining top talent—shifting away from the punitive roots of performance management. As John says: “Employees don’t want feedback, they want connection. They don’t want evaluation, they want attention”.<br /><br />One of the new steps John took was to require quarterly check-in conversations with all employees. The effect was transformational: from just 16% of employees having annual reviews to 89% participating in four quarterly check-ins within the first year. This regular cadence broke the culture of silence, making communication a legal and cultural imperative.<br /><b><br />Overhauling the System: What Changed</b><br /><b><br /></b>Where most organizations tinker at the edges, Utah’s public sector embraced bold, structural change. They implemented legislation for conversations, which included quarterly check-ins and annual reviews, demonstrating a high-level commitment to improving performance management.<br /><br />Only 30% of managers previously had any training, and now, over 87% have been developed in crucial skills such as feedback, resilience, and collaboration. Utah also funds performance management by reallocating cost-of-living adjustments and introducing performance-driven bonuses. Goals now consist of both output-aligned objectives and developmental “how” objectives, pushing employees to reflect on and improve their impact.<br /><b><br />Evidence of a Transformed Culture</b><br /><b><br /></b>Performance conversations have become increasingly meaningful. The organization saw a 40% increase in first-year exits for cause—not a sign of ruthless weeding out, but of identifying and addressing performance issues sooner, thereby improving overall health without a drop in retention. High-potential (HIPO) employee retention rates rose 16% above the general population, and newly calibrated bonus systems rewarded and motivated top talent. Utah’s success has garnered attention from major institutions—including Harvard and the London School of Economics—looking to distill lessons from its model.<br /><b><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://governor.utah.gov/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Utah Governor's Office</a></li><li><a href="https://le.utah.gov/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Utah Legislature</a></li><li><a href="https://www.harvard.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvard University</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lse.ac.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LSE</a> </li><li><a href="https://le.utah.gov/~2022/bills/static/HB0104.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">HB0104</a></li><li><a href="https://governor.utah.gov/grit/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">GRIT Initiative</a>      </li></ul><b><br />Connect with John Barrand<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://governor.utah.gov/governors-cabinet/john-barrand/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Barrand</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71652875</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71652875/ws_126.mp3" length="119546775" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F4ioINdhWDkz6hseAczuz94wc3e5eGd9/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=111848539757714868899&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we sit down with John Barrand, CHRO for the State of Utah, to discuss an inspiring transformation in public sector performance management. John led a bold effort to overhaul Utah’s performance management system—moving it from a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we sit down with John Barrand, CHRO for the State of Utah, to discuss an inspiring transformation in public sector performance management. John led a bold effort to overhaul Utah’s performance management system—moving it from a culture of “adequacy” and silence to one focused on learning, growth, connection, and accountability. John shares how he and his team achieved legislative change requiring quarterly check-ins, implemented management training, and shifted the state’s mindset around performance and development.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[01:16] Initial state of Utah’s performance management system</li><li>[06:23] Value of continuous learning and curiosity in government </li><li>[10:06] Defining the “why” for performance management in Utah</li><li>[17:02] Risks and Resistance in Systemic Change</li><li>[20:06] Quarterly employee check-ins initiative</li><li>[25:59] Balancing fairness and measurement without alienating staff </li><li>[34:28] Creation of a system-wide talent mobility program </li><li>[40:01] Development of incentive structures and bonus allocations </li><li>[44:22] Sustainability and future of the program</li></ul><b><br /><br />Performance Management is a Sector-Spanning Challenge</b><br /><b><br /></b>Performance management has a notorious reputation, often maligned as bureaucratic and misaligned. These challenges aren’t confined to just the private sector. Public organizations often face a wealth of bureaucracy and challenges that can inhibit transformation, compounded by a cultural tendency towards silence and an adequacy mindset.<br /><br />When John assumed his role in 2021 for the state of Utah, over 70% of employees had an “unknown” performance rating, and only 16% had received annual reviews. The pervasive culture of silence fostered disengagement and suspicion, and performance management, where it occurred, was simply about maintaining adequacy—a relic from nearly a century and a half of defensive bureaucracy.<br /><b><br />From Compliance to Connection</b><br /><b><br /></b>The first pivotal move was defining purpose. Clarity on the “why” behind performance management is crucial. For Utah, the why was growth: enabling employees to learn and grow while retaining top talent—shifting away from the punitive roots of performance management. As John says: “Employees don’t want feedback, they want connection. They don’t want evaluation, they want attention”.<br /><br />One of the new steps John took was to require quarterly check-in conversations with all employees. The effect was transformational: from just 16% of employees having annual reviews to 89% participating in four quarterly check-ins within the first year. This regular cadence broke the culture of silence, making communication a legal and cultural imperative.<br /><b><br />Overhauling the System: What Changed</b><br /><b><br /></b>Where most organizations tinker at the edges, Utah’s public sector embraced bold, structural change. They implemented legislation for conversations, which included quarterly check-ins and annual reviews, demonstrating a high-level commitment to improving performance management.<br /><br />Only 30% of managers previously had any training, and now, over 87% have been developed in crucial skills such as feedback, resilience, and collaboration. Utah also funds performance management by reallocating cost-of-living adjustments and introducing performance-driven bonuses. Goals now consist of both output-aligned objectives and developmental “how” objectives, pushing employees to reflect on and improve their impact.<br /><b><br />Evidence of a Transformed Culture</b><br /><b><br /></b>Performance conversations have become increasingly meaningful. The organization saw a 40% increase in first-year exits for cause—not a sign of ruthless weeding out, but of identifying and addressing performance issues sooner, thereby improving overall...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2989</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>johnbarrand,performancemanagement,publicsector,redthreadresearch,stateofutah,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3744645fb38639b41b8302e04d6fbc43.jpg"/><itunes:episode>126</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Designing Future Narratives in a Changing Workplace: Lisa Kay Solomon and Jeffrey Rogers</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/designing-future-narratives-in-a-changing-workplace-lisa-kay-solomon-and-jeffrey-rogers--71295111</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode, we welcome Lisa Kay Solomon, designer-in-residence at Stanford's d.school and host of the "How We Future" podcast, and Jeffrey Rogers, principal of Learning and Facilitation at Radical and co-founder of Projectory. We discuss why foresight—the ability to anticipate and design the futures we want—is everybody's job, not just the domain of senior leaders or specialized futurists. They challenge the idea that organizations operate on an "official future" built from unexamined assumptions, and explore how narrative shapes both our approach to work and our readiness for rapid change, especially in the face of AI disruption.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Rethinking future-focused leadership</li><li>[03:39] HR's evolving role in shaping the future</li><li>[07:18] Understanding contested narratives and the potential to challenge them </li><li>[21:50] The importance of adopting futures thinking through broad learning across multiple perspectives</li><li>[25:47] Strategic foresight and future practices</li><li>[35:13] Rethinking knowledge and learning priorities</li><li>[39:21] Reflecting on AI adoption barriers</li><li>[47:08] Helping leaders develop future-oriented skills</li><li>[51:14] Looking ahead to the future</li></ul><b><br />The Leadership Muscle We Forget to Use</b><br /><b><br /></b>One of the most powerful ideas to emerge from the conversation is that of foresight as a "leadership muscle." Most leaders are trained and incentivized to focus on quarterly results and annual plans. The urgent often squeezes out the important, leaving little room for the kind of long-term, strategic thinking that anticipates disruption rather than simply reacts to it.<br /><br />Foresight isn't someone else’s job—it's every leader's job. Yet, most organizations have let this muscle atrophy. Through scenario planning and immersive exercises like those facilitated at last year’s Summit, the hosts argue that HR and organizational leaders can rediscover the collective ability to inquire, imagine, and influence the future, rather than endure it.<br /><b><br />Challenging the "Official Future" and the Power of Narrative</b><br /><b><br /></b>Every organization operates on an "official future," a set of unspoken assumptions about what tomorrow holds. In stable times, these guiding narratives are rarely questioned. But when the world is in flux, from technological disruptions like AI to geopolitical shocks, such narratives become vulnerabilities.<br /><br />Leaders, especially in HR, have a responsibility to both recognize and challenge prevailing stories about the future. Wherever there’s a narrative, there’s also the possibility for a counter-narrative, and organizations need to cultivate the skill of holding multiple possible futures in mind, letting diverse perspectives inform strategic choices rather than defaulting to inherited assumptions.<br /><b><br />Building Organizational Foresight: Tools, Skills, and Community</b><br /><b><br /></b>The value of events like the Red Thread Summit lies in three core takeaways: the experience of stepping back to envision the future, a toolkit of practices that can be applied immediately, and the creation of a community dedicated to learning and experimentation.<br /><br />There are three critical skills:<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li>Recognizing the narrative: Are you taking assumptions as fact, or seeing them as just one possible story?</li></ul><ul><li>Crafting your own narratives: Are you able to articulate clear, alternative futures?</li></ul><ul><li>Communicating vision: Can you equip others to see and believe in those visions?</li></ul><b><br /></b>Perhaps nowhere is the need for foresight and narrative-shaping more acute than in the realm of AI and automation. Today’s leaders are under immense pressure to adopt and justify new technologies, to navigate uncertainty, and to avoid being blindsided by change.<br />A key theme is the emerging digital (and AI) divide: those who are experimenting, learning, and shaping technology are pulling ahead, while those waiting for certainty risk being left behind. Learning, experimentation, and cross-pollination are essential. <br /><b><br />Creating the Conditions for Resilient Futures</b><br /><b><br /></b>Rather than chasing after blueprints or one "correct" answer, try to cultivate a design mindset: creating organizational conditions in which new ideas and approaches can flourish. This means expanding our definition of leadership to include not just the preservation of knowledge, but the nurturing of curiosity, experimentation, collaboration, and adaptability. <br /><b><br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://drucker.institute/about-peter-drucker/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Peter Drucker</a></li><li><a href="https://www.lisakaysolomon.com/articles" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Articles by Lisa Kay Solomon</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/pfinette/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Pascal Finette on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.implicationswheel.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Implications Wheel</a></li><li><a href="https://dschool.stanford.edu/study/elective-courses/view-from-the-future" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">View from the Future at Stanford d.school</a>  </li><li><a href="https://hazelhenderson.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hazel Henderson</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Lisa Kay Solomon and Jeffrey Rogers<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakaysolomon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lisa Kay Solomon on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyrogersfacilitator/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jeffrey Rogers on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/71295111</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/71295111/ws_125.mp3" length="44287946" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19pCmghB8L6UliE64dD-XQgtAWdo_27_Q-C-dQnIB3zs/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we welcome Lisa Kay Solomon, designer-in-residence at Stanford's d.school and host of the "How We Future" podcast, and Jeffrey Rogers, principal of Learning and Facilitation at Radical and co-founder of Projectory. We discuss why...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, we welcome Lisa Kay Solomon, designer-in-residence at Stanford's d.school and host of the "How We Future" podcast, and Jeffrey Rogers, principal of Learning and Facilitation at Radical and co-founder of Projectory. We discuss why foresight—the ability to anticipate and design the futures we want—is everybody's job, not just the domain of senior leaders or specialized futurists. They challenge the idea that organizations operate on an "official future" built from unexamined assumptions, and explore how narrative shapes both our approach to work and our readiness for rapid change, especially in the face of AI disruption.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Rethinking future-focused leadership</li><li>[03:39] HR's evolving role in shaping the future</li><li>[07:18] Understanding contested narratives and the potential to challenge them </li><li>[21:50] The importance of adopting futures thinking through broad learning across multiple perspectives</li><li>[25:47] Strategic foresight and future practices</li><li>[35:13] Rethinking knowledge and learning priorities</li><li>[39:21] Reflecting on AI adoption barriers</li><li>[47:08] Helping leaders develop future-oriented skills</li><li>[51:14] Looking ahead to the future</li></ul><b><br />The Leadership Muscle We Forget to Use</b><br /><b><br /></b>One of the most powerful ideas to emerge from the conversation is that of foresight as a "leadership muscle." Most leaders are trained and incentivized to focus on quarterly results and annual plans. The urgent often squeezes out the important, leaving little room for the kind of long-term, strategic thinking that anticipates disruption rather than simply reacts to it.<br /><br />Foresight isn't someone else’s job—it's every leader's job. Yet, most organizations have let this muscle atrophy. Through scenario planning and immersive exercises like those facilitated at last year’s Summit, the hosts argue that HR and organizational leaders can rediscover the collective ability to inquire, imagine, and influence the future, rather than endure it.<br /><b><br />Challenging the "Official Future" and the Power of Narrative</b><br /><b><br /></b>Every organization operates on an "official future," a set of unspoken assumptions about what tomorrow holds. In stable times, these guiding narratives are rarely questioned. But when the world is in flux, from technological disruptions like AI to geopolitical shocks, such narratives become vulnerabilities.<br /><br />Leaders, especially in HR, have a responsibility to both recognize and challenge prevailing stories about the future. Wherever there’s a narrative, there’s also the possibility for a counter-narrative, and organizations need to cultivate the skill of holding multiple possible futures in mind, letting diverse perspectives inform strategic choices rather than defaulting to inherited assumptions.<br /><b><br />Building Organizational Foresight: Tools, Skills, and Community</b><br /><b><br /></b>The value of events like the Red Thread Summit lies in three core takeaways: the experience of stepping back to envision the future, a toolkit of practices that can be applied immediately, and the creation of a community dedicated to learning and experimentation.<br /><br />There are three critical skills:<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li>Recognizing the narrative: Are you taking assumptions as fact, or seeing them as just one possible story?</li></ul><ul><li>Crafting your own narratives: Are you able to articulate clear, alternative futures?</li></ul><ul><li>Communicating vision: Can you equip others to see and believe in those visions?</li></ul><b><br /></b>Perhaps nowhere is the need for foresight and narrative-shaping more acute than in the realm of AI and automation. Today’s leaders are under immense pressure to adopt and justify new technologies, to navigate uncertainty, and to avoid being blindsided by change.<br...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3164</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>future-focused,futurenarratives,jeffreyrogers,leadership,lisakaysolomon,projectory,redthread,stanford,workplacestories,wspodcast</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/80624cbda8f59bdd6125e29996cc2abe.jpg"/><itunes:episode>125</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Workplace Culture Shapes Business Success: Ron Storn</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/how-workplace-culture-shapes-business-success-ron-storn--70995913</link><description><![CDATA[This week, we’re sitting down with Ron Storn, Chief People and Culture Officer at Truckstop, to discuss culture—how it forms, who owns it, and how it scales in growing organizations. We explore the relationships between systems, processes, and cultural values, and discuss signs of cultural breakdown and the keys to recovery. We also discuss how AI is reshaping workplace dynamics, hiring practices, and performance management, and Ron offers practical, research-based insights and strategies for understanding and supporting positive workplace culture. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 How company culture is formed</li><li>09:19 Building strong HR and leadership systems</li><li>11:54 Creating a positive culture for business success</li><li>18:59 Scaling and preserving company culture</li><li>22:53 Defining team behaviors and principles</li><li>29:26 Aligning culture with decision-making</li><li>32:13 Signs of a broken workplace</li><li>36:50 Challenges with management and team culture</li><li>41:45 Advantages of remote vs in-person work</li><li>44:56 AI's impact on workplace culture</li></ul><b><br /><br />Defining Culture</b><br /><br />Some companies treat culture as little more than a list of values on the wall, disconnected from the day-to-day decisions and actions that define what it’s really like to work there. Ron believes culture is best understood as a set of shared behaviors, decision rights, and expectations to determine how a company actually executes its strategy when no one is watching. It’s how decisions are made, how people are hired or rewarded, and how work gets done when leadership isn’t in the room.<br /><br />In smaller organizations, culture often starts with a clear vision or set of norms, and systems are built around it. As organizations scale, systems and practices increasingly shape (and sometimes reshape) the prevailing culture, the challenge is finding ways to make culture systemic, woven into processes, rewards, and leadership behaviors, so that the company’s values endure as it grows.<br /><b><br />Who Owns Culture? Leadership, HR, and Systems</b><br /><b><br /></b>While HR is often perceived as the “owner” of culture, Ron believes it should be a shared responsibility, with ultimate ownership being at the very top. CEOs and founders define and embody desired cultural norms, while executive leaders model and cascade those norms through decisions and behaviors. HR’s role is to craft the mechanisms for how people are hired, evaluated, and developed to reinforce the company culture at scale. If only HR champions culture while leadership pays lip service or models different behaviors, culture will break down. Everyone, especially managers, must reinforce and live the culture for it to endure.<br /><b><br />Signs of Cultural Erosion and How to Recover</b><br /><b><br /></b>When culture unravels, it’s usually a gradual process, increasing decision friction, high performers becoming disengaged, and inconsistent behaviors creeping in across teams. If left unchecked, the result is a loss of trust, bureaucracy, and top talent walking out the door.<br />Recovery is possible, but it needs radical transparency and recommitment.<br /><br />Ron recommends that organizations in crisis go back to their roots and principles, engaging teams in candid conversations about what must change. Leaders should model vulnerability, drive clarity on decision-making and expectations, and ensure every manager is accountable for rebuilding the cultural fabric.  <br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="http://truckstop.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Truckstop.com</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Ron Storn<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronstorn/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ron Storn on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70995913</guid><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70995913/ws_124.mp3" length="47197203" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_jnB68IepmkDA_3AHwNgNeWbpDsLHEZDVutFJKMbEcU/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week, we’re sitting down with Ron Storn, Chief People and Culture Officer at Truckstop, to discuss culture—how it forms, who owns it, and how it scales in growing organizations. We explore the relationships between systems, processes, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week, we’re sitting down with Ron Storn, Chief People and Culture Officer at Truckstop, to discuss culture—how it forms, who owns it, and how it scales in growing organizations. We explore the relationships between systems, processes, and cultural values, and discuss signs of cultural breakdown and the keys to recovery. We also discuss how AI is reshaping workplace dynamics, hiring practices, and performance management, and Ron offers practical, research-based insights and strategies for understanding and supporting positive workplace culture. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 How company culture is formed</li><li>09:19 Building strong HR and leadership systems</li><li>11:54 Creating a positive culture for business success</li><li>18:59 Scaling and preserving company culture</li><li>22:53 Defining team behaviors and principles</li><li>29:26 Aligning culture with decision-making</li><li>32:13 Signs of a broken workplace</li><li>36:50 Challenges with management and team culture</li><li>41:45 Advantages of remote vs in-person work</li><li>44:56 AI's impact on workplace culture</li></ul><b><br /><br />Defining Culture</b><br /><br />Some companies treat culture as little more than a list of values on the wall, disconnected from the day-to-day decisions and actions that define what it’s really like to work there. Ron believes culture is best understood as a set of shared behaviors, decision rights, and expectations to determine how a company actually executes its strategy when no one is watching. It’s how decisions are made, how people are hired or rewarded, and how work gets done when leadership isn’t in the room.<br /><br />In smaller organizations, culture often starts with a clear vision or set of norms, and systems are built around it. As organizations scale, systems and practices increasingly shape (and sometimes reshape) the prevailing culture, the challenge is finding ways to make culture systemic, woven into processes, rewards, and leadership behaviors, so that the company’s values endure as it grows.<br /><b><br />Who Owns Culture? Leadership, HR, and Systems</b><br /><b><br /></b>While HR is often perceived as the “owner” of culture, Ron believes it should be a shared responsibility, with ultimate ownership being at the very top. CEOs and founders define and embody desired cultural norms, while executive leaders model and cascade those norms through decisions and behaviors. HR’s role is to craft the mechanisms for how people are hired, evaluated, and developed to reinforce the company culture at scale. If only HR champions culture while leadership pays lip service or models different behaviors, culture will break down. Everyone, especially managers, must reinforce and live the culture for it to endure.<br /><b><br />Signs of Cultural Erosion and How to Recover</b><br /><b><br /></b>When culture unravels, it’s usually a gradual process, increasing decision friction, high performers becoming disengaged, and inconsistent behaviors creeping in across teams. If left unchecked, the result is a loss of trust, bureaucracy, and top talent walking out the door.<br />Recovery is possible, but it needs radical transparency and recommitment.<br /><br />Ron recommends that organizations in crisis go back to their roots and principles, engaging teams in candid conversations about what must change. Leaders should model vulnerability, drive clarity on decision-making and expectations, and ensure every manager is accountable for rebuilding the cultural fabric.  <br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="http://truckstop.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Truckstop.com</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Ron Storn<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronstorn/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ron Storn on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3372</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>cultural,hr,readthreadresearch,teamculture,values,workplaceculture,workplacestories,wps</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7c2054a28a29d8995dd828cefdcd98c3.jpg"/><itunes:episode>124</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A Culture of Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York: Jenna Filipkowski</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-culture-of-development-at-the-federal-reserve-bank-of-new-york-jenna-filipkowski--70656415</link><description><![CDATA[On this episode, we’re with Jenna Filipkowski, the Head of Learning and Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. With a background in organizational psychology and research, Jenna brings a fresh, outsider perspective to the world of L&amp;D, challenging traditional approaches and driving innovation within the unique environment of the Fed.<br /><br />We discuss the importance of team development over individual learning, the shift from self-directed "Netflix of learning" approaches to more guided, in-person experiences, and the crucial role of branding and communication in building credibility for L&amp;D organizations.  <br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 Team-based learning evolution</li><li>05:06 Improving the workforce experience</li><li>07:59 Embracing opportunity in HR leadership</li><li>15:46 Team coaching as facilitation</li><li>19:56 Aligning learning with business goals</li><li>25:40 In-person vs. virtual leadership training</li><li>33:12 Improving organizational learning through data</li><li>37:46 Cohesive branding and storytelling</li><li>40:20 Leadership accountability and development</li></ul><b>From Individual Focus to Team Development</b><br /><b><br /></b>Historically, L&amp;D programs have targeted individual upskilling and career navigation. At the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Jenna Filipkowski is pioneering an approach grounded in 6 Team Conditions, a research-backed model that moves beyond one-off workshops.<br />Her Energize program uses diagnostics, assessments like Hogan and Insights Discovery, and customized workshops to identify and strengthen the underlying conditions for team success. Rather than a one-size-fits-all or quick-fix model, teams undergo a tailored process, allowing for deeper systemic improvement. It’s about giving teams the tools and support to accelerate their performance because they’re set up for success, not just treating every challenge as an off-the-shelf problem.<br /><b><br />The Death of Netflix of Learning</b><br /><b><br /></b>For years, L&amp;D has been swept up by the promise of Netflix learning, providing endless on-demand content and empowering employees to self-direct their learning journeys. But this laissez-faire model has started to unravel, because organizations and individuals are craving more structure and intentionality. <br /><br />At the New York Fed, the move to in-person, cohort-based programs is intentional. In-person learning provides social connection, time to focus, and shared experience, resulting in deeper reflection and lasting impact. While technical upskilling may still leverage digital and asynchronous methods. Blending modalities based on program intent, not defaulting to digital just because it’s easier.<br /><b><br />Branding L&amp;D</b><br /><b><br /></b>Standing out in a large, multifaceted organization is a challenge for any L&amp;D team, and Jenna’s approach is to treat L&amp;D as a brand. Programs at the Fed share unified branding with cohesive names and visual identity, making offerings memorable and fostering a sense of exclusivity and aspiration.<br /><br />Branding goes hand-in-hand with effective communication. Frequent roadshows, town halls, engaging graduation ceremonies, and leadership conferences help communicate value not only to employees but also to senior leadership. <br /><b><br />Measurement and Accountability</b><br /><b><br /></b>At the Fed, Jenna and her team use a mix of reach, participant demand, stakeholder feedback, and practical business cases solved to demonstrate L&amp;D’s value. They push to correlate L&amp;D participation with metrics like engagement and retention—demonstrating impact beyond traditional learning outcomes. The vision for the future includes more robust, passive data collection and real-time intelligence—but for now, using multiple data sources creatively is key.<br /><br />As workplaces shift once again, the future of L&amp;D will center on three things: helping people grow in their roles, building strong leaders, and fostering connection through learning alongside others. The journey away from content chaos and toward strategic, human-centered, and measurement-driven L&amp;D is just beginning.<b> </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.hoganassessments.com/assessment/hogan-development-survey/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hogan Development Survey</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.insights.com/us/products/insights-discovery/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Insights Discovery® </a></li><li><a href="https://6teamconditions.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">6 Team Conditions</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Jenna Filipkowski<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennafilipkowski/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jenna Filipkowski on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70656415</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 07:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70656415/ws_123.mp3" length="39717980" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YXAs5QM0nqgymuy-_z93JH9kZ56f_mTiefp2lflLl08/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this episode, we’re with Jenna Filipkowski, the Head of Learning and Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. With a background in organizational psychology and research, Jenna brings a fresh, outsider perspective to the world of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this episode, we’re with Jenna Filipkowski, the Head of Learning and Development at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. With a background in organizational psychology and research, Jenna brings a fresh, outsider perspective to the world of L&amp;D, challenging traditional approaches and driving innovation within the unique environment of the Fed.<br /><br />We discuss the importance of team development over individual learning, the shift from self-directed "Netflix of learning" approaches to more guided, in-person experiences, and the crucial role of branding and communication in building credibility for L&amp;D organizations.  <br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 Team-based learning evolution</li><li>05:06 Improving the workforce experience</li><li>07:59 Embracing opportunity in HR leadership</li><li>15:46 Team coaching as facilitation</li><li>19:56 Aligning learning with business goals</li><li>25:40 In-person vs. virtual leadership training</li><li>33:12 Improving organizational learning through data</li><li>37:46 Cohesive branding and storytelling</li><li>40:20 Leadership accountability and development</li></ul><b>From Individual Focus to Team Development</b><br /><b><br /></b>Historically, L&amp;D programs have targeted individual upskilling and career navigation. At the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Jenna Filipkowski is pioneering an approach grounded in 6 Team Conditions, a research-backed model that moves beyond one-off workshops.<br />Her Energize program uses diagnostics, assessments like Hogan and Insights Discovery, and customized workshops to identify and strengthen the underlying conditions for team success. Rather than a one-size-fits-all or quick-fix model, teams undergo a tailored process, allowing for deeper systemic improvement. It’s about giving teams the tools and support to accelerate their performance because they’re set up for success, not just treating every challenge as an off-the-shelf problem.<br /><b><br />The Death of Netflix of Learning</b><br /><b><br /></b>For years, L&amp;D has been swept up by the promise of Netflix learning, providing endless on-demand content and empowering employees to self-direct their learning journeys. But this laissez-faire model has started to unravel, because organizations and individuals are craving more structure and intentionality. <br /><br />At the New York Fed, the move to in-person, cohort-based programs is intentional. In-person learning provides social connection, time to focus, and shared experience, resulting in deeper reflection and lasting impact. While technical upskilling may still leverage digital and asynchronous methods. Blending modalities based on program intent, not defaulting to digital just because it’s easier.<br /><b><br />Branding L&amp;D</b><br /><b><br /></b>Standing out in a large, multifaceted organization is a challenge for any L&amp;D team, and Jenna’s approach is to treat L&amp;D as a brand. Programs at the Fed share unified branding with cohesive names and visual identity, making offerings memorable and fostering a sense of exclusivity and aspiration.<br /><br />Branding goes hand-in-hand with effective communication. Frequent roadshows, town halls, engaging graduation ceremonies, and leadership conferences help communicate value not only to employees but also to senior leadership. <br /><b><br />Measurement and Accountability</b><br /><b><br /></b>At the Fed, Jenna and her team use a mix of reach, participant demand, stakeholder feedback, and practical business cases solved to demonstrate L&amp;D’s value. They push to correlate L&amp;D participation with metrics like engagement and retention—demonstrating impact beyond traditional learning outcomes. The vision for the future includes more robust, passive data collection and real-time intelligence—but for now, using multiple data sources creatively is key.<br /><br />As workplaces shift once again, the...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2837</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>coaching,federalreservebank,jennafilipkowski,l&amp;d,learninganddevelopment,organizationallearning,redthreadresearch,teambasedlearning,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/09278ebf8c9779882f637bf1e2fb6ff1.jpg"/><itunes:episode>123</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Strategic Workforce Planning: David Edwards</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/strategic-workforce-planning-david-edwards--70264795</link><description><![CDATA[Strategic workforce planning is back, and not in a nostalgic “this trend is back around” kind of way. It is back because the old staffing model, react late, hire fast, hope the market delivers, is failing more often than it works. The biggest misunderstanding is still the same one: strategic workforce planning is not long-term headcount forecasting. It is not a spreadsheet exercise dressed up with better visuals. It is a business discipline that exists for one reason, to stop leaders from committing to strategies the workforce cannot deliver.<br /><br />In this episode of Workplace Stories, David Edwards, author of <i>The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook</i>, lays out a definition of SWP that is refreshingly usable. Strategic workforce planning is workforce planning for the strategic things in the organization, not an attempt to plan the entire workforce. That single shift makes SWP more approachable, more realistic, and far more effective.<br />If you have not listened yet, this is one of those episodes worth hearing end-to-end. The conversation is practical, occasionally blunt, and full of the kind of “this is what actually happens inside companies” detail that most workforce planning content avoids.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><br />[00:00] A clearer, more usable definition of strategic workforce planning.<br />[00:43] Why SWP is back right now.<br />[03:20] How SWP supports scenario thinking without false precision.<br />[09:50] The questions SWP must answer to be useful.<br />[11:40] Uncertainty, talent scarcity, and skills half-life as drivers.<br />[14:30] Why SWP is an exercise in ambiguity, not certainty.<br />[17:20] Why SWP works best as a business process, not an HR project.<br />[20:05] What HR should do if it is not included in strategy conversations.<br />[22:00] How to define “strategic” beyond leadership roles.<br />[25:10] Why tasks matter more than skills for future work.<br />[28:00] The contextual data missing from most workforce planning.<br />[31:15] How AI forces better workforce planning questions.<br />[41:20] What happens when SWP forces leaders to narrow priorities.<br />[45:30] What to do when the business will not listen.<br />[46:45] Why this work matters at the human level.<br /><br /><b>Strategic Workforce Planning Starts With One Uncomfortable Question</b><br /><br />Strategic workforce planning becomes useful the moment it stops pretending it can predict the future. The real starting point is simple: Is the workforce fit for the organization’s future business purpose? That framing does two things immediately. First, it moves SWP out of the “HR process” bucket and into the “business execution” bucket. Second, it forces the conversation away from false certainty and toward risk, trade-offs, and feasibility.<br /><br />One of the most helpful parts of this episode is how clearly the conversation draws a line between strategic and long-term. Strategic does not automatically mean five years out. In some organizations, planning 15 months ahead is strategic compared to how they have historically operated. If you want the cleanest definition of SWP in the most human language possible, it is worth listening to the early part of the conversation where this is unpacked in real time.<br /><br /><b>Why Workforce Planning Has Returned</b><br /><br />Workforce planning always comes and goes. It resurfaces when the world feels unstable, and it fades when leaders believe they can hire their way out of problems.Right now, hiring your way out of problems is not working.There is too much uncertainty, and it is coming from too many directions at once. Geopolitical instability affects where work can happen. Talent shortages continue to constrain hiring. Skills decay faster than most organizations can reskill. Generational shifts are changing expectations around mobility and development. And technology is changing the shape of work itself.<br /><br />The point is not that leaders suddenly became more disciplined. The point is that the environment is forcing discipline.Strategic workforce planning is the response to that reality. Not because it gives certainty, but because it gives options. It gives a way to talk about what might happen without having to pretend anyone knows exactly what will happen.<br /><br /><b>Strategic Workforce Planning Works When It Stops Being “HR’s Thing”</b><br /><br />A lot of SWP efforts fail for a predictable reason. They are treated like an HR deliverable. A report. A deck. A spreadsheet. A set of numbers handed over to leadership. Strategic workforce planning is not a deliverable. It is a business process. It is a feasibility process. It is a risk conversation. One of the strongest through-lines in this episode is the idea that HR must initiate this conversation, not because HR owns strategy, but because HR holds the missing information. HR knows things about recruiting realities, workforce behavior, retention patterns, internal mobility, and capability development that business leaders often overlook.<br /><br />But knowledge is not enough. The shift HR has to make is from reporting to synthesis. People analytics without business context is just numbers. When workforce data is layered onto business strategy, a story emerges. A small function may be revenue-critical. A demographic cliff may be coming. The external market may not supply replacements. The timeline may be unrealistic.This is where SWP becomes sharp.<br /><br /><b>Strategic Does Not Mean Leadership Only</b><br /><br />Many organizations quietly turn strategic workforce planning into succession planning. They define strategic as director and above, focus on leadership roles, and build plans around titles. That is leadership continuity planning. It is not strategic workforce planning. Strategic workforce planning is about what is material. Sometimes the most strategic workforce segment is a small team of individual contributors with rare expertise and direct revenue impact. They may never appear in succession planning decks. They may not have high-profile titles. But losing them becomes a board-level issue the moment revenue drops or delivery fails. <br /><br /><b>Skills Are Not the Answer, Tasks Are the Missing Middle</b><br /><br />Skills still matter, but the skills conversation has gotten out ahead of itself. The problem is not that skills are irrelevant. The problem is that skills are being treated as the answer to a question they cannot solve. Skills describe people. Work is made of tasks. People use skills to perform tasks. That middle layer is what connects workforce planning to reality. This becomes especially obvious when AI enters the picture. AI does not simply change which skills people need. It changes which tasks exist, how tasks are performed, and which tasks no longer require a human at all. If an organization cannot describe how work is changing at the task level, the skills conversation stays abstract. It becomes a taxonomy exercise instead of a planning exercise .This is one of the most useful reframes in the conversation, and if you are wrestling with the skills-versus-tasks debate inside your organization, it is worth hearing how this is discussed in context.<br /><br /><b>Workforce Planning Has to Include the Person, Not Just the Skill</b><br /><br />A skill taxonomy can tell an organization that someone has a skill. It cannot tell the organization whether that person wants to use it. Whether they have demonstrated it in real execution. Whether they are willing to take on leadership. Whether they just moved into a role and are still ramping. Strategic workforce planning becomes more realistic when it includes contextual data, not just skill labels. This is where SWP becomes less about classification and more about decision-making. It stops treating people like skill containers and starts treating them like human beings with preferences, histories, and constraints.<br /><br /><b>HR Influence Requires Persistence, Risk Language, and Political Skill</b><br /><br />Even when HR gets the analysis right, many organizations still do not listen. That is not paranoia. It is often true. In environments where HR has historically been transactional, leaders do not expect HR to challenge strategy feasibility. They do not expect HR to raise uncomfortable risks. They do not expect HR to show up with options. Strategic workforce planning forces HR into a different posture. It requires HR to speak in the language of risk, to persist, and to get political when necessary. If one group will not listen, find another that will. Engage operational risk. Borrow credibility. Use the channels that the organization already respects. This is one of those episodes where the advice is not theoretical. It is practical, and it is the kind of thing HR leaders often need to hear said out loud.<br /><br /><b>Connect With David Edwards</b><br /><br /><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidedwardsswp/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">David Edwards on Linkedin</a><br /><br /><b>Connect With RedThread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70264795</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2026 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70264795/ws_122.mp3" length="41685888" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hquZ1ruyC9o18I4AK1CnA9DCf3Ii7LIf/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=111848539757714868899&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Strategic workforce planning is back, and not in a nostalgic “this trend is back around” kind of way. It is back because the old staffing model, react late, hire fast, hope the market delivers, is failing more often than it works. The biggest...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Strategic workforce planning is back, and not in a nostalgic “this trend is back around” kind of way. It is back because the old staffing model, react late, hire fast, hope the market delivers, is failing more often than it works. The biggest misunderstanding is still the same one: strategic workforce planning is not long-term headcount forecasting. It is not a spreadsheet exercise dressed up with better visuals. It is a business discipline that exists for one reason, to stop leaders from committing to strategies the workforce cannot deliver.<br /><br />In this episode of Workplace Stories, David Edwards, author of <i>The Strategic Workforce Planning Handbook</i>, lays out a definition of SWP that is refreshingly usable. Strategic workforce planning is workforce planning for the strategic things in the organization, not an attempt to plan the entire workforce. That single shift makes SWP more approachable, more realistic, and far more effective.<br />If you have not listened yet, this is one of those episodes worth hearing end-to-end. The conversation is practical, occasionally blunt, and full of the kind of “this is what actually happens inside companies” detail that most workforce planning content avoids.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><br />[00:00] A clearer, more usable definition of strategic workforce planning.<br />[00:43] Why SWP is back right now.<br />[03:20] How SWP supports scenario thinking without false precision.<br />[09:50] The questions SWP must answer to be useful.<br />[11:40] Uncertainty, talent scarcity, and skills half-life as drivers.<br />[14:30] Why SWP is an exercise in ambiguity, not certainty.<br />[17:20] Why SWP works best as a business process, not an HR project.<br />[20:05] What HR should do if it is not included in strategy conversations.<br />[22:00] How to define “strategic” beyond leadership roles.<br />[25:10] Why tasks matter more than skills for future work.<br />[28:00] The contextual data missing from most workforce planning.<br />[31:15] How AI forces better workforce planning questions.<br />[41:20] What happens when SWP forces leaders to narrow priorities.<br />[45:30] What to do when the business will not listen.<br />[46:45] Why this work matters at the human level.<br /><br /><b>Strategic Workforce Planning Starts With One Uncomfortable Question</b><br /><br />Strategic workforce planning becomes useful the moment it stops pretending it can predict the future. The real starting point is simple: Is the workforce fit for the organization’s future business purpose? That framing does two things immediately. First, it moves SWP out of the “HR process” bucket and into the “business execution” bucket. Second, it forces the conversation away from false certainty and toward risk, trade-offs, and feasibility.<br /><br />One of the most helpful parts of this episode is how clearly the conversation draws a line between strategic and long-term. Strategic does not automatically mean five years out. In some organizations, planning 15 months ahead is strategic compared to how they have historically operated. If you want the cleanest definition of SWP in the most human language possible, it is worth listening to the early part of the conversation where this is unpacked in real time.<br /><br /><b>Why Workforce Planning Has Returned</b><br /><br />Workforce planning always comes and goes. It resurfaces when the world feels unstable, and it fades when leaders believe they can hire their way out of problems.Right now, hiring your way out of problems is not working.There is too much uncertainty, and it is coming from too many directions at once. Geopolitical instability affects where work can happen. Talent shortages continue to constrain hiring. Skills decay faster than most organizations can reskill. Generational shifts are changing expectations around mobility and development. And technology is changing the shape of work itself.<br /><br...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2978</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>davidedwards,redthreadresearch,strategicplanning,strategicworkforceplanning,workforceplanning,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/410a0b6e5c44252d14b1d2608c4629f4.jpg"/><itunes:episode>122</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Authentic AI Adoption and Cultural Impact: Dessalen Wood</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/authentic-ai-adoption-and-cultural-impact-dessalen-wood--70080445</link><description><![CDATA[From overcoming initial anxieties through hackathons and playful experiments, to setting an ambitious organizational roadmap for AI, Dessalen Wood shares how Syntax is embedding artificial intelligence across departments, focusing on pragmatic progress rather than hype.<br /><br />You’ll hear stories about driving excitement, learning by doing, and the all-important challenge of measuring real impact. More than just technology, this episode dives into the culture shifts, collaboration with IT, and leadership mindsets that are pushing companies out of their comfort zones and into the future, while keeping authenticity and humanity front and center.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 Overcoming AI fear through collaboration</li><li>03:30 Defining AI readiness today</li><li>09:55 AI's role in business transformation</li><li>15:46 AI anxiety in the workplace</li><li>22:05 Making AI adoption fun</li><li>28:11 AI expertise requires human touch</li><li>36:42 AI strategy: Three layers explained</li><li>41:31 True transformation vs. improvement</li><li>53:21 Rethinking work, technology, and AI</li></ul><br />Overcoming AI Anxiety<br /><br />Early stages of AI adoption in organizations are often marked by fear. Employees worry about being displaced, making mistakes, or failing to keep up. At Syntax, Dessalen Wood and her fellow leaders tackled these concerns by creating safe, engaging, and transparent opportunities to experiment.<br /><br />One of the most effective strategies was an organization-wide AI hackathon. Everyone, regardless of their role, was invited to submit ideas for automation and improvement—ideas that the tech team then built. Not only did this demystify AI, but it also provided a healthy dose of competition and excitement. Dessalen describes that, “Instead of people fearing automation, it became a competition... People were saying, please, automate my tasks!” This shift from apprehension to enthusiasm helped break through adoption barriers and foster a culture of creative problem-solving.<br /><br />Structuring Success: A Multi-Layered AI Roadmap<br /><br />Syntax’s approach moves AI from a buzzword to a set of actionable strategies. The leadership distinguished between three core areas:<br /><ol><li>Department Initiatives: Leveraging AI for productivity and process improvement within teams</li><li>Customer Value: Enhancing solutions and services delivered to external clients</li><li>Business Transformation: Reimagining core business models and operations for strategic advantage</li></ol>Many organizations mistakenly assume one AI initiative will magically improve all three—but real impact comes from tailored strategies for each. In practice, this means differentiating between continuous improvement (making existing tasks more efficient) and true reinvention (fundamentally transforming how and why work gets done).<br /><br />The creation of AI champions, employees trained as internal advocates and solution designers, helped ensure that innovative ideas didn’t just sit in a backlog. Instead, those not ready for large-scale investment could be adapted, piloted, and iterated by these champions, keeping the spirit of experimentation alive while prioritizing resources for the highest-value initiatives.<br /><br />The Human Element: Authenticity, Experimentation, and Measurement<br /><br />As AI tools become more prevalent, a new challenge emerges: maintaining authenticity in communication, development, and leadership. The team discussed the “hollowed-out leader” phenomenon—where over-reliance on AI could dilute critical thinking and personal investment. Dessalen explains why expertise, context, and human customization are more important than ever: If it doesn’t demonstrate expertise and isn’t highly curated, it just turns people off.<br /><br />Measurement is also evolving. Early wins in AI productivity are being tracked, not just in terms of completion rates or tool adoption, but in demonstrable business outcomes and stretch goals. Syntax uses tools that help employees articulate their productivity gains and set new impact targets, ensuring that activity translates into organizational value.<br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.qualtrics.com/resources/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Experience Qualtrics Management Resources</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Dessalen Wood<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dessalen-wood-b1192513/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dessalen Wood on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/70080445</guid><pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 23:05:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/70080445/ws_121_1.mp3" length="49125614" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vdmKnB3bl3efNlySv4gLimir58wU-ZaiA9xqc35M61Q/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>From overcoming initial anxieties through hackathons and playful experiments, to setting an ambitious organizational roadmap for AI, Dessalen Wood shares how Syntax is embedding artificial intelligence across departments, focusing on pragmatic...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[From overcoming initial anxieties through hackathons and playful experiments, to setting an ambitious organizational roadmap for AI, Dessalen Wood shares how Syntax is embedding artificial intelligence across departments, focusing on pragmatic progress rather than hype.<br /><br />You’ll hear stories about driving excitement, learning by doing, and the all-important challenge of measuring real impact. More than just technology, this episode dives into the culture shifts, collaboration with IT, and leadership mindsets that are pushing companies out of their comfort zones and into the future, while keeping authenticity and humanity front and center.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<b><br /></b><br /><ul><li>00:00 Overcoming AI fear through collaboration</li><li>03:30 Defining AI readiness today</li><li>09:55 AI's role in business transformation</li><li>15:46 AI anxiety in the workplace</li><li>22:05 Making AI adoption fun</li><li>28:11 AI expertise requires human touch</li><li>36:42 AI strategy: Three layers explained</li><li>41:31 True transformation vs. improvement</li><li>53:21 Rethinking work, technology, and AI</li></ul><br />Overcoming AI Anxiety<br /><br />Early stages of AI adoption in organizations are often marked by fear. Employees worry about being displaced, making mistakes, or failing to keep up. At Syntax, Dessalen Wood and her fellow leaders tackled these concerns by creating safe, engaging, and transparent opportunities to experiment.<br /><br />One of the most effective strategies was an organization-wide AI hackathon. Everyone, regardless of their role, was invited to submit ideas for automation and improvement—ideas that the tech team then built. Not only did this demystify AI, but it also provided a healthy dose of competition and excitement. Dessalen describes that, “Instead of people fearing automation, it became a competition... People were saying, please, automate my tasks!” This shift from apprehension to enthusiasm helped break through adoption barriers and foster a culture of creative problem-solving.<br /><br />Structuring Success: A Multi-Layered AI Roadmap<br /><br />Syntax’s approach moves AI from a buzzword to a set of actionable strategies. The leadership distinguished between three core areas:<br /><ol><li>Department Initiatives: Leveraging AI for productivity and process improvement within teams</li><li>Customer Value: Enhancing solutions and services delivered to external clients</li><li>Business Transformation: Reimagining core business models and operations for strategic advantage</li></ol>Many organizations mistakenly assume one AI initiative will magically improve all three—but real impact comes from tailored strategies for each. In practice, this means differentiating between continuous improvement (making existing tasks more efficient) and true reinvention (fundamentally transforming how and why work gets done).<br /><br />The creation of AI champions, employees trained as internal advocates and solution designers, helped ensure that innovative ideas didn’t just sit in a backlog. Instead, those not ready for large-scale investment could be adapted, piloted, and iterated by these champions, keeping the spirit of experimentation alive while prioritizing resources for the highest-value initiatives.<br /><br />The Human Element: Authenticity, Experimentation, and Measurement<br /><br />As AI tools become more prevalent, a new challenge emerges: maintaining authenticity in communication, development, and leadership. The team discussed the “hollowed-out leader” phenomenon—where over-reliance on AI could dilute critical thinking and personal investment. Dessalen explains why expertise, context, and human customization are more important than ever: If it doesn’t demonstrate expertise and isn’t highly curated, it just turns people off.<br /><br />Measurement is also evolving. Early wins in AI productivity are being tracked, not just in terms of...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3509</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,dessalenwood,redthreadresearch,syntax,workplacestories,ws</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c029070a2ee47b89860d230d5856e844.jpg"/><itunes:episode>121</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Five Levels of Becoming AI Native: Melissa Reeve</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/five-levels-of-becoming-ai-native-melissa-reeve--69763770</link><description><![CDATA[<b>The way organizations think about artificial intelligence (AI) in the workplace has shifted dramatically over the past few years. While early conversations centered on isolated experiments and technological hype, organizations now face the much harder task of integrating AI into the fabric of how work gets done. We welcome Melissa Reeve, author of “Hyper Adaptive: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI Native,” to discuss what AI adoption really means for people, processes, and culture.<br />Melissa tackles some tough questions about organizational complexity, shifting operating models, and the critical role of culture and systems thinking in successful AI integration. Listeners will get candid advice on starting small, experimenting with purpose, and preparing for the rewiring ahead. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>03:38 Integrating AI into organizations</li><li>12:47 AI Native enterprise structure</li><li>15:51 Dynamic AI governance framework</li><li>18:58 AI implementation foundations</li><li>23:56 Process mapping for AI integration</li><li>29:44 Balancing efficiency and leadership focus</li><li>37:02 Start small with value streams</li><li>40:59 Innovative organizational funding models</li><li>42:14 Starting a skills-focused organization</li><li>47:03 Digital Twins in Product Testing</li></ul><b><br />Navigating the AI Revolution at Work<br />Melissa Reeve’s journey began on the factory floors of Toyota, learning firsthand how small process shifts can drive system-wide change. Building on years of research and influence from Lean, Agile, and DevOps practitioners, Reeve authored a five-stage maturity model she calls hyperadaptive, designed to guide organizations through the incremental steps needed to become truly AI-native.<br />The five stages of Melissa's model:<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Foundation – Build organizational understanding of AI; create dynamic governance structures and clarify guardrails.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Optimization – Identify and optimize business processes for AI interactions; move beyond basic experimentation.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Agents &amp; Automation – Develop and manage AI agents that execute tasks and processes autonomously.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Rewiring – Shift organizational architecture from rigid hierarchies to flexible, value-stream teams funded and incentivized differently.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Hyperadaptive – Fully sense-and-respond organizations capable of real-time adaptation.</li></ul><b><br />Melissa splits these into two main categories: Basecamp (the first three stages, where most companies currently operate) and the Emerging Frontier (rewiring and hyper adaptivity).<br />Why Organizations Struggle with AI Integration<br />According to Melissa, most organizations are stuck because they underestimate the support structures required for successful AI adoption. It’s not just about updating technology, in fact, 70-80% of AI success depends on people, culture, and processes, not algorithms. Companies often rush to deploy AI agents or experiment without a clear North Star, leading to pilot fatigue and an 80% failure rate. Many organizations haven’t even finished laying the foundational groundwork, such as establishing unified governance or mapping work processes.<br />Another common pitfall is the tendency to try everything at once. Pressure for fast results drives teams to bite off too much, resulting in burnout and costly errors.<br />Moving from Experimentation to Purposeful Transformation<br />Playing with AI is not a strategy. While experimentation is necessary, organizations must put bounds on these efforts, know why they're experimenting, what hypothesis they're testing, and what success will look like.<br />One necessary precursor is getting to grips with how your organization actually works. Many leaders lack visibility into workflows, decisions, and skillsets, making process optimization difficult. Reeve suggests collaborative process mapping—sometimes supported by AI tools—to unlock tacit knowledge and identify where AI can augment or reinvent workflows.<br />Organizing Around Value Streams<br />One of the most transformative elements is the shift from function-based silos to cross-functional value stream teams. Melissa draws on examples from Toyota, Zappos, and Unilever—organizations that reimagine workflows, funding mechanisms, and team incentives to deliver value rather than preserve hierarchy. Dynamic budgeting, focused experimentation, and flexible team structures help organizations scale AI success without tearing up everything at once.<br />Culture, Upskilling, and Durable Success<br />AI’s impact will be decided by how well organizations invest in people. Unilever’s Future Fit program exemplifies this approach, aligning reskilling efforts to individual purpose and business needs. It’s not algorithms that set successful organizations apart, but their ability to create cultures and support systems that empower people to adapt, reinvent themselves, and thrive amidst change.<br />Start small, experiment with purpose, invest in support structures, and prepare to rewire not just technology, but how your organization thinks about work itself. AI may be the catalyst, but people, empowered and organized around value, are the key to lasting transformation.<br /> Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://hyperadaptive.solutions/book" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hyperadaptive: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI-Native </a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Melissa Reeve<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/melissamreeve/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Melissa M. Reeve on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69763770</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 09:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69763770/ws_120.mp3" length="48302385" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kdyvU-02rtx-PUKiNNMb6zzwB__skI7S/view?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The way organizations think about artificial intelligence (AI) in the workplace has shifted dramatically over the past few years. While early conversations centered on isolated experiments and technological hype, organizations now face the much harder...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<b>The way organizations think about artificial intelligence (AI) in the workplace has shifted dramatically over the past few years. While early conversations centered on isolated experiments and technological hype, organizations now face the much harder task of integrating AI into the fabric of how work gets done. We welcome Melissa Reeve, author of “Hyper Adaptive: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI Native,” to discuss what AI adoption really means for people, processes, and culture.<br />Melissa tackles some tough questions about organizational complexity, shifting operating models, and the critical role of culture and systems thinking in successful AI integration. Listeners will get candid advice on starting small, experimenting with purpose, and preparing for the rewiring ahead. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>03:38 Integrating AI into organizations</li><li>12:47 AI Native enterprise structure</li><li>15:51 Dynamic AI governance framework</li><li>18:58 AI implementation foundations</li><li>23:56 Process mapping for AI integration</li><li>29:44 Balancing efficiency and leadership focus</li><li>37:02 Start small with value streams</li><li>40:59 Innovative organizational funding models</li><li>42:14 Starting a skills-focused organization</li><li>47:03 Digital Twins in Product Testing</li></ul><b><br />Navigating the AI Revolution at Work<br />Melissa Reeve’s journey began on the factory floors of Toyota, learning firsthand how small process shifts can drive system-wide change. Building on years of research and influence from Lean, Agile, and DevOps practitioners, Reeve authored a five-stage maturity model she calls hyperadaptive, designed to guide organizations through the incremental steps needed to become truly AI-native.<br />The five stages of Melissa's model:<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Foundation – Build organizational understanding of AI; create dynamic governance structures and clarify guardrails.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Optimization – Identify and optimize business processes for AI interactions; move beyond basic experimentation.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Agents &amp; Automation – Develop and manage AI agents that execute tasks and processes autonomously.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Rewiring – Shift organizational architecture from rigid hierarchies to flexible, value-stream teams funded and incentivized differently.</li></ul><b> </b><br /><ul><li>Hyperadaptive – Fully sense-and-respond organizations capable of real-time adaptation.</li></ul><b><br />Melissa splits these into two main categories: Basecamp (the first three stages, where most companies currently operate) and the Emerging Frontier (rewiring and hyper adaptivity).<br />Why Organizations Struggle with AI Integration<br />According to Melissa, most organizations are stuck because they underestimate the support structures required for successful AI adoption. It’s not just about updating technology, in fact, 70-80% of AI success depends on people, culture, and processes, not algorithms. Companies often rush to deploy AI agents or experiment without a clear North Star, leading to pilot fatigue and an 80% failure rate. Many organizations haven’t even finished laying the foundational groundwork, such as establishing unified governance or mapping work processes.<br />Another common pitfall is the tendency to try everything at once. Pressure for fast results drives teams to bite off too much, resulting in burnout and costly errors.<br />Moving from Experimentation to Purposeful Transformation<br />Playing with AI is not a strategy. While experimentation is necessary, organizations must put bounds on these efforts, know why they're experimenting, what hypothesis they're testing, and what success will look like.<br />One necessary precursor is getting to grips with how your organization actually works. Many leaders lack visibility into workflows, decisions, and skillsets, making process...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3019</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,melissareeve,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a2b74dbca8242e4c8683f38e2cecd029.jpg"/><itunes:episode>120</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reimagining Work at Scale: Manuel Smukalla on Skills, Dynamic Shared Ownership, and the Future of Bayer</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reimagining-work-at-scale-manuel-smukalla-on-skills-dynamic-shared-ownership-and-the-future-of-bayer--69529543</link><description><![CDATA[Manuel Smukalla, Global Talent Impact, Skills Intelligence, and Systems Lead at Bayer, joins Workplace Stories to unpack one of the most ambitious organizational transformations underway today. As Bayer confronts significant market, legal, and profitability pressures, the company has taken a radically different approach to how work, leadership, and talent are structured, rethinking everything from management layers to career progression.<br /><br />In this episode, Manuel walks through Bayer’s shift to Dynamic Shared Ownership (DSO), a decentralized operating model built around networks of teams, 90-day work cycles, and leaders who coach rather than control. He explains why skills visibility became a foundational requirement for this model to work and how Bayer is using skills data to democratize opportunities, improve talent flow, and fundamentally rethink careers inside a global enterprise.<br /><br />You’ll hear how Bayer reduced management layers by more than half, redesigned leadership expectations through its VAC (Visionary, Architect, Catalyst, Coach) model, and moved toward a culture where employees are empowered, and expected, to own their work, development, and impact.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[01:01] Why Bayer embarked on a radical organizational transformation.</li><li>[04:30] What Dynamic Shared Ownership really means in practice.</li><li>[06:55] Moving from hierarchical structures to networks of teams.</li><li>[10:40] Why skills visibility became a critical business problem.</li><li>[14:05] How 90-day work cycles change accountability and outcomes.</li><li>[18:10] Building organizations around customer problems, not functions.</li><li>[21:15] Launching skills profiles as a starting point, not an endpoint.</li><li>[23:00] How Bayer’s talent marketplace democratizes opportunity at scale.</li><li>[27:00] The three pillars of a skills-based organization.</li><li>[33:00] Rethinking careers, performance management, and feedback.</li><li>[43:10] The VAC leadership model explained.</li><li>[52:30] Measuring success in a decentralized organization.</li><li>[53:45] Advice for organizations considering similar transformations.</li></ul><b>Dynamic Shared Ownership: Redesigning How Work Gets Done</b><br />At the core of Bayer’s transformation is Dynamic Shared Ownership, an operating model that replaces traditional hierarchies with flexible networks of teams. Manuel explains how Bayer reduced its management layers from thirteen to six and reorganized work into 90-day cycles focused on clear outcomes. After each cycle, teams reflect on what worked, what didn’t, and whether the work should continue at all.<br /><b><br /></b>This approach decentralizes decision-making and forces a shift away from command-and-control leadership. Leaders are no longer expected to direct every task; instead, they create the conditions for teams to succeed, setting direction while trusting teams to determine how outcomes are achieved.<b></b><br /><br /><b>Skills as the Engine of Talent Flow</b><br />For Dynamic Shared Ownership to function, Bayer needed a new way to understand and deploy talent. Manuel shares a pivotal realization: managers were turning to LinkedIn to understand employee skills because the organization lacked internal visibility. That insight sparked Bayer’s skills journey.<br /><b><br /></b>Rather than starting with complex taxonomies, Bayer focused first on skill visibility. Employees created and maintained skills profiles, supported by workshops on how to describe capabilities effectively. Over time, this evolved into a talent marketplace that matches people to work based on skills, not job titles, career level, or location, helping democratize access to opportunities across the enterprise.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Moving Talent to Work, Not Work to Talent</b><br />Manuel outlines three defining pillars of a skills-based organization. First, talent must move to work rather than work being constrained by static roles. Second, organizations must commit to permanent upskilling, recognizing that development is continuous, not episodic. Third, opportunities must be democratized at scale, reducing reliance on manager sponsorship or informal networks.<br /><b><br /></b>Bayer’s marketplace supports fixed roles, flex roles, and fully agile project-based work, encouraging employees to actively shape their careers while remaining accountable for outcomes. This model challenges long-held assumptions about promotions, ladders, and linear advancement.<br /><b><br />Leadership and Performance in a Decentralized World</b><br />Leadership at Bayer has been redefined through the VAC model: Visionary, Architect, Catalyst, and Coach. Leaders set direction, help teams design how value is created, remove barriers, and support rapid cycles of learning. This requires significant unlearning for leaders shaped by traditional hierarchies.<br /><b><br /></b>Performance management has also shifted. Goals are set in 90-day cycles at the team level, with feedback coming from peers and work leads rather than solely from a direct manager. Over time, this creates richer data on contribution and impact, but also demands a cultural shift toward transparency, shared accountability, and continuous feedback.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect with Manuel Smukalla</b><br /><ul><li>Manuel Smukalla on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuel-smukalla-708a0358/?locale=de_DE" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69529543</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:53:28 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69529543/reimagining_work_at_scale_manuel_smukalla_on_skills_dynamic_shared_ownership_and_the_future_of_bayer.mp3" length="49360795" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TX_yqJzrdqE7d7Q47P79kwfpnfc7XSgG/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Manuel Smukalla, Global Talent Impact, Skills Intelligence, and Systems Lead at Bayer, joins Workplace Stories to unpack one of the most ambitious organizational transformations underway today. As Bayer confronts significant market, legal, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Manuel Smukalla, Global Talent Impact, Skills Intelligence, and Systems Lead at Bayer, joins Workplace Stories to unpack one of the most ambitious organizational transformations underway today. As Bayer confronts significant market, legal, and profitability pressures, the company has taken a radically different approach to how work, leadership, and talent are structured, rethinking everything from management layers to career progression.<br /><br />In this episode, Manuel walks through Bayer’s shift to Dynamic Shared Ownership (DSO), a decentralized operating model built around networks of teams, 90-day work cycles, and leaders who coach rather than control. He explains why skills visibility became a foundational requirement for this model to work and how Bayer is using skills data to democratize opportunities, improve talent flow, and fundamentally rethink careers inside a global enterprise.<br /><br />You’ll hear how Bayer reduced management layers by more than half, redesigned leadership expectations through its VAC (Visionary, Architect, Catalyst, Coach) model, and moved toward a culture where employees are empowered, and expected, to own their work, development, and impact.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[01:01] Why Bayer embarked on a radical organizational transformation.</li><li>[04:30] What Dynamic Shared Ownership really means in practice.</li><li>[06:55] Moving from hierarchical structures to networks of teams.</li><li>[10:40] Why skills visibility became a critical business problem.</li><li>[14:05] How 90-day work cycles change accountability and outcomes.</li><li>[18:10] Building organizations around customer problems, not functions.</li><li>[21:15] Launching skills profiles as a starting point, not an endpoint.</li><li>[23:00] How Bayer’s talent marketplace democratizes opportunity at scale.</li><li>[27:00] The three pillars of a skills-based organization.</li><li>[33:00] Rethinking careers, performance management, and feedback.</li><li>[43:10] The VAC leadership model explained.</li><li>[52:30] Measuring success in a decentralized organization.</li><li>[53:45] Advice for organizations considering similar transformations.</li></ul><b>Dynamic Shared Ownership: Redesigning How Work Gets Done</b><br />At the core of Bayer’s transformation is Dynamic Shared Ownership, an operating model that replaces traditional hierarchies with flexible networks of teams. Manuel explains how Bayer reduced its management layers from thirteen to six and reorganized work into 90-day cycles focused on clear outcomes. After each cycle, teams reflect on what worked, what didn’t, and whether the work should continue at all.<br /><b><br /></b>This approach decentralizes decision-making and forces a shift away from command-and-control leadership. Leaders are no longer expected to direct every task; instead, they create the conditions for teams to succeed, setting direction while trusting teams to determine how outcomes are achieved.<b></b><br /><br /><b>Skills as the Engine of Talent Flow</b><br />For Dynamic Shared Ownership to function, Bayer needed a new way to understand and deploy talent. Manuel shares a pivotal realization: managers were turning to LinkedIn to understand employee skills because the organization lacked internal visibility. That insight sparked Bayer’s skills journey.<br /><b><br /></b>Rather than starting with complex taxonomies, Bayer focused first on skill visibility. Employees created and maintained skills profiles, supported by workshops on how to describe capabilities effectively. Over time, this evolved into a talent marketplace that matches people to work based on skills, not job titles, career level, or location, helping democratize access to opportunities across the enterprise.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Moving Talent to Work, Not Work to Talent</b><br />Manuel outlines three defining pillars of a skills-based organization. First, talent...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3526</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>bayer,dynamicsharedownership,employee,employees,hr,humanresources,leadership,management,manuelsmukalla,systems,talent,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a2599100d2322323208742afdfd7632e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>119</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Centralizing for Strategy: Christine Crouch on L&amp;D Transformation at General Mills</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/centralizing-for-strategy-christine-crouch-on-l-d-transformation-at-general-mills--69081569</link><description><![CDATA[Christine Crouch, Senior Director of Learning at General Mills, joins Workplace Stories to discuss a massive shift in how one of the world's legacy food companies approaches talent development. General Mills has recently transitioned to a centralized and integrated learning model.<br /><br />In this episode, Christine lays out one of the clearest cases for centralization we have heard. While efficiency is a benefit, she argues that the true drivers are decision-making power and better data. By unifying the function, General Mills gains a stronger view of learning activity and business needs, creating the strategic infrastructure necessary for the future of work.<br /><br />You’ll hear how Christine’s team manages to be centralized without losing the "local feel" through a robust Learning Business Partner model. She also details how centralization unlocks the ability to correlate learning metrics with talent outcomes like retention and performance. Finally, Christine shares her philosophy on AI, not as a replacement for human connection, but as a tool to elevate the human side of learning.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[06:07] Background on General Mills and its culture.</li><li>[07:00] The shift from decentralized to centralized L&amp;D.</li><li>[11:11] How to make centralization feel local to business stakeholders.</li><li>[18:30] The Learning Business Partner model explained.</li><li>[21:07] Correlating learning metrics with talent outcomes.</li><li>[27:58] Managing "rogue purchases" in a centralized model.</li><li>[34:20] Why AI will elevate, not replace, the human side of learning.</li><li>[47:35] Piloting AI coaching tools like "Nadia".</li></ul><b><br />The Strategic Case for Centralization</b><br />For many organizations, the move to centralize L&amp;D is purely a cost-cutting exercise. However, Christine frames the shift at General Mills as a play for better data and strategic decision-making. A centralized function provides a unified view of the organization's needs, allowing L&amp;D to prioritize investments that drive enterprise-wide capabilities rather than just solving isolated functional problems. As AI accelerates, this strong data infrastructure is what will allow the organization to distinguish between what people actually need to know versus what can be offloaded to technology.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The Learning Business Partner Model</b><br />Centralization often brings the fear of losing touch with the business. General Mills solves this through the "Learning Business Partner" role, individuals who sit on the leadership teams of specific functions or segments but report back to the central L&amp;D organization. These partners act as a bridge; they understand the HR strategy and business plans of their specific function while ensuring continuity with the broader enterprise goals. They are expected to be performance consultants first, identifying the root problems to solve rather than just taking orders for training.<br /><b></b><br /><b>AI: Elevating the Human Element</b><br />Christine’s approach to AI is grounded in optimism and human-centricity. She believes AI will not replace the human side of learning but elevate it. General Mills is actively piloting AI for tasks like personalization, automation, and coaching via a tool called "Nadia," which acts as an "always-on" coach. However, Christine emphasizes that deep skill building, like change leadership, still requires human connection, peer discussion, and the ability to "read the room," skills that AI cannot fully replicate. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect with Christine Crouch<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-crouch-a503745/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christine Crouch on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/69081569</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 06:00:10 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/69081569/wps118.mp3" length="44463854" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/15mX81clxnlczSaqlfZ3MkIMoVyjBac90/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Christine Crouch, Senior Director of Learning at General Mills, joins Workplace Stories to discuss a massive shift in how one of the world's legacy food companies approaches talent development. General Mills has recently transitioned to a centralized...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Christine Crouch, Senior Director of Learning at General Mills, joins Workplace Stories to discuss a massive shift in how one of the world's legacy food companies approaches talent development. General Mills has recently transitioned to a centralized and integrated learning model.<br /><br />In this episode, Christine lays out one of the clearest cases for centralization we have heard. While efficiency is a benefit, she argues that the true drivers are decision-making power and better data. By unifying the function, General Mills gains a stronger view of learning activity and business needs, creating the strategic infrastructure necessary for the future of work.<br /><br />You’ll hear how Christine’s team manages to be centralized without losing the "local feel" through a robust Learning Business Partner model. She also details how centralization unlocks the ability to correlate learning metrics with talent outcomes like retention and performance. Finally, Christine shares her philosophy on AI, not as a replacement for human connection, but as a tool to elevate the human side of learning.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[06:07] Background on General Mills and its culture.</li><li>[07:00] The shift from decentralized to centralized L&amp;D.</li><li>[11:11] How to make centralization feel local to business stakeholders.</li><li>[18:30] The Learning Business Partner model explained.</li><li>[21:07] Correlating learning metrics with talent outcomes.</li><li>[27:58] Managing "rogue purchases" in a centralized model.</li><li>[34:20] Why AI will elevate, not replace, the human side of learning.</li><li>[47:35] Piloting AI coaching tools like "Nadia".</li></ul><b><br />The Strategic Case for Centralization</b><br />For many organizations, the move to centralize L&amp;D is purely a cost-cutting exercise. However, Christine frames the shift at General Mills as a play for better data and strategic decision-making. A centralized function provides a unified view of the organization's needs, allowing L&amp;D to prioritize investments that drive enterprise-wide capabilities rather than just solving isolated functional problems. As AI accelerates, this strong data infrastructure is what will allow the organization to distinguish between what people actually need to know versus what can be offloaded to technology.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The Learning Business Partner Model</b><br />Centralization often brings the fear of losing touch with the business. General Mills solves this through the "Learning Business Partner" role, individuals who sit on the leadership teams of specific functions or segments but report back to the central L&amp;D organization. These partners act as a bridge; they understand the HR strategy and business plans of their specific function while ensuring continuity with the broader enterprise goals. They are expected to be performance consultants first, identifying the root problems to solve rather than just taking orders for training.<br /><b></b><br /><b>AI: Elevating the Human Element</b><br />Christine’s approach to AI is grounded in optimism and human-centricity. She believes AI will not replace the human side of learning but elevate it. General Mills is actively piloting AI for tasks like personalization, automation, and coaching via a tool called "Nadia," which acts as an "always-on" coach. However, Christine emphasizes that deep skill building, like change leadership, still requires human connection, peer discussion, and the ability to "read the room," skills that AI cannot fully replicate. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect with Christine Crouch<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-crouch-a503745/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christine Crouch on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank"...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3176</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employee,employeedevelopment,employment,generalmills,hiring,hr,humanresources,learning,learninganddevelopment,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9a6dd9fa60eed251253b0a084892b10c.jpg"/><itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building a Skills-Based Organization with Koreen Pagano</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-a-skills-based-organization-with-koreen-pagano--68832049</link><description><![CDATA[On the latest episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Koreen Pagano, author of "Building a Skills-Based Organization," to talk about one of the hottest and most complex topics in the world of work: how organizations can become truly skills-based, and what that really means in today’s rapidly changing, AI-driven landscape. The conversation was loaded with practical insights, candid stories, and wisdom from the front lines of workforce transformation.<br /><br />Koreen shares her journey from ed-tech and product leadership to guiding hundreds of organizations through the maze of skills transformation. We discuss the crucial front-of-house and back-of-house elements, from clear communication and partnership models to building the right data and technology infrastructure. You’ll hear fresh perspectives on using skills data as an early signal for retention, the shifting role of tasks versus skills, and what it means to future-proof your workforce for ongoing change. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[05:17] Skills vs job architecture approaches.</li><li>[10:04] Navigating skills-based organizations.</li><li>[14:33] Workforce data challenges with AI.</li><li>[23:04] Skills over jobs for strategy.</li><li>[27:04] Building resilient data systems.</li><li>[34:33] Building trust in skill data.</li><li>[39:32] Predicting employee retention through data.</li><li>[45:59] Helping organizations align AI transformation with business goals.</li></ul><b><br />Why Skills Still Matter in a “Task-Talk” World<br /></b>There’s a persistent misconception that the age of “skills” has passed and that “tasks” offer a more practical lens, especially with AI in play. Koreen shares how, at a recent industry event, she heard professionals say, “We don’t need to worry about skills, we have to focus on tasks.” But she thinks that it’s misguided to abandon skills just when organizations are barely starting to understand and leverage them.<br /><br />While tasks describe the work to be done, skills reflect the underlying human (and sometimes machine) capabilities that make that work possible. Both are crucial, but without a foundational understanding of your organization's skills, mapping tasks is like building on sand.<br /><b><br />Front of House, Back of House, and Getting Skills Right<br /></b>We need to balance “front of house” and “back of house” considerations when building a skills-based organization. Organizations often focus either on external communications, partnerships, and culture (front of house), or purely on technology, data, and infrastructure (back of house), but rarely both. Koreen is unique in straddling the two, and it’s this holistic approach, blending people and process with tech and data, that sets successful organizations apart.<br /><b><br />The Evolution of Data and the Rise of Skills Verification<br /></b>Organizations are beginning to realize that their skills data isn’t just about upskilling or reskilling; it’s tightly connected to business-critical outcomes like retention, performance, and the ability to adapt to market shifts. Koreen shares compelling examples of using skills data to provide early warning on issues like employee retention, demonstrating data-driven HR in action.<br /><b><br /></b>She also shared her pragmatic “3Vs” model for validating skills data: Validity (how well the data measures what it claims to), Variety (different types of data from varied sources), and Volume (quantity and frequency of data collected). You can make solid business decisions with basic self-reported skills data, but for higher-stakes calls, like hiring, you need much more rigorous, validated information.<br /><b><br />Jobs, Skills, and the Trap of Static Structures<br /></b>Often, organizations anchor their skills strategy to their job architecture. Consultants and technology vendors frequently push companies to start by mapping skills to static jobs. We discuss why this is a dangerous place to “end”, because jobs, roles, and the tasks that define them are changing faster than ever, especially with AI in the mix. Koreen advocates for designing skills data that is flexible, lives independently, and can be mapped to jobs and tasks as they evolve, never becoming held hostage by legacy structures.<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Goals Over Tasks</b><br />Perhaps the most powerful call to action was the need to focus less on micromanaging the “how” (a long list of tasks) and more on the “what and why”, the goals, outcomes, and genuine business objectives. In a future where work is constantly shifting, organizations that empower people around purpose, supported by dynamic skills data, will outperform those stuck mapping today’s tasks to yesterday’s job charts.<br /><b><br /></b>Building a skills-based organization isn't a project with a tidy endpoint, it’s a transformation. As Koreen reminds us, it’s hard, messy, and as much about culture as it is about data. But for the organizations (and the people) willing to experiment, adapt, and keep skills at the center of strategy, the payoff is a workforce that’s ready for whatever comes next. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Building-Skills-Based-Organization-Blueprint-Transformation/dp/196023174X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Building the Skills-Based Organization: A Blueprint for Transformation by Koreen Pagano</a> </li></ul><b>Connect with Koreen Pagano<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/koreenpagano/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Koreen Pagano on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68832049</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 06:00:10 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68832049/building_a_skills_based_organization_with_koreen_pagano.mp3" length="47761117" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lZxM_8EhazS1cWoe250FQ8a2KAMF2M7-/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On the latest episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Koreen Pagano, author of "Building a Skills-Based Organization," to talk about one of the hottest and most complex topics in the world of work: how organizations can become truly...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On the latest episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Koreen Pagano, author of "Building a Skills-Based Organization," to talk about one of the hottest and most complex topics in the world of work: how organizations can become truly skills-based, and what that really means in today’s rapidly changing, AI-driven landscape. The conversation was loaded with practical insights, candid stories, and wisdom from the front lines of workforce transformation.<br /><br />Koreen shares her journey from ed-tech and product leadership to guiding hundreds of organizations through the maze of skills transformation. We discuss the crucial front-of-house and back-of-house elements, from clear communication and partnership models to building the right data and technology infrastructure. You’ll hear fresh perspectives on using skills data as an early signal for retention, the shifting role of tasks versus skills, and what it means to future-proof your workforce for ongoing change. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>[05:17] Skills vs job architecture approaches.</li><li>[10:04] Navigating skills-based organizations.</li><li>[14:33] Workforce data challenges with AI.</li><li>[23:04] Skills over jobs for strategy.</li><li>[27:04] Building resilient data systems.</li><li>[34:33] Building trust in skill data.</li><li>[39:32] Predicting employee retention through data.</li><li>[45:59] Helping organizations align AI transformation with business goals.</li></ul><b><br />Why Skills Still Matter in a “Task-Talk” World<br /></b>There’s a persistent misconception that the age of “skills” has passed and that “tasks” offer a more practical lens, especially with AI in play. Koreen shares how, at a recent industry event, she heard professionals say, “We don’t need to worry about skills, we have to focus on tasks.” But she thinks that it’s misguided to abandon skills just when organizations are barely starting to understand and leverage them.<br /><br />While tasks describe the work to be done, skills reflect the underlying human (and sometimes machine) capabilities that make that work possible. Both are crucial, but without a foundational understanding of your organization's skills, mapping tasks is like building on sand.<br /><b><br />Front of House, Back of House, and Getting Skills Right<br /></b>We need to balance “front of house” and “back of house” considerations when building a skills-based organization. Organizations often focus either on external communications, partnerships, and culture (front of house), or purely on technology, data, and infrastructure (back of house), but rarely both. Koreen is unique in straddling the two, and it’s this holistic approach, blending people and process with tech and data, that sets successful organizations apart.<br /><b><br />The Evolution of Data and the Rise of Skills Verification<br /></b>Organizations are beginning to realize that their skills data isn’t just about upskilling or reskilling; it’s tightly connected to business-critical outcomes like retention, performance, and the ability to adapt to market shifts. Koreen shares compelling examples of using skills data to provide early warning on issues like employee retention, demonstrating data-driven HR in action.<br /><b><br /></b>She also shared her pragmatic “3Vs” model for validating skills data: Validity (how well the data measures what it claims to), Variety (different types of data from varied sources), and Volume (quantity and frequency of data collected). You can make solid business decisions with basic self-reported skills data, but for higher-stakes calls, like hiring, you need much more rigorous, validated information.<br /><b><br />Jobs, Skills, and the Trap of Static Structures<br /></b>Often, organizations anchor their skills strategy to their job architecture. Consultants and technology vendors frequently push companies to start by mapping skills to static jobs. We...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3412</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,aiinhr,artificialintelligence,buildingaskills-basedorganizat,employeedevelopment,employment,hr,humancapital,humanresource,koreenpagano,skillsdevelopment,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/24f56dc88f64121a2c36d272b924754a.jpg"/><itunes:episode>117</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>HR in the Age of AI: Cole Napper on People Analytics, Generative AI, and Redefining Value</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/hr-in-the-age-of-ai-cole-napper-on-people-analytics-generative-ai-and-redefining-value--68523756</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode, Stacia and Dani sit down once again with Cole Napper, author of “People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset.” A year after his first appearance, Cole returns with bold insights about the seismic changes facing HR and people analytics, and why now is the time to rethink how we define value in the workplace.<br /><br />Cole argues that the future of HR depends on shedding its transactional skin and embracing a new, data-driven paradigm. He discusses why traditional models like Dave Ulrich’s COE framework won’t survive the decade, how organizations can “discorrelate” from market forces by proving business value, and why fear, not technology, is the biggest obstacle to transformation. <br /><br />With sharp humor and evidence from his own research, Cole makes the case for a redefined HR: one that blends human strategy with AI-powered intelligence to drive growth, not just efficiency.<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br />[00:00] Building a new HR paradigm in the Gen AI era.<br />[06:00] Why people analytics hit its “identity crisis” after 2022.<br />[12:00] How to prove HR’s business value beyond metrics.<br />[19:00] The decline of the Ulrich HR model and what replaces it.<br />[24:00] The future of AI-driven workforce transformation.<br />[33:00] The tension between the HR and finance worldviews.<br />[46:00] Why data infrastructure is suddenly “sexy” again.<br />[52:00] Three possible futures for HR in the next decade.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Building a New Paradigm for People Analytics</b><br />Cole’s new book calls for a reset in how organizations use data, not as an isolated reporting function but as a business accelerator. He reveals how people analytics can move from being “scorekeepers” to strategic partners by tackling the questions behind the questions: Why is it happening? What should we do about it? His message is clear, analytics must tie directly to revenue, cost, or risk reduction, or it’s just a hobby.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The End of HR as We Know It</b><br />Cole predicts that the Ulrich model, the long-standing HR framework of COEs, service centers, and HRBPs, won’t survive the coming decade. As generative AI automates much of HR’s transactional work, only the strategic and human elements will remain. He and the hosts debate what should stay human and what can be delegated to machines, exploring the fine line between technological efficiency and organizational soul.<br /><b></b><br /><b>AI, Accountability, and the Future of Work</b><br />Cole cautions that while AI’s potential is vast, it cannot replace human accountability. Drawing a parallel with the evolution of chess, he argues that AI will transform HR’s “game,” not erase it. The goal isn’t to align around AI as a tool, but to use it to unlock entirely new possibilities in how we work, learn, and grow.<br /><br /><b>Infrastructure, Not Illusion</b><br />For all the hype, Cole reminds leaders that the foundation of AI success lies in data infrastructure, “the least sexy but most essential lever.” Without it, organizations risk failure in the next wave of transformation. Investing in data quality, architecture, and scalability today determines who thrives, or disappears, tomorrow.<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/People-Analytics-Using-data-driven-business/dp/1398622168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset by Cole Napper</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Cole Napper<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/colenapper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68523756</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 06:00:11 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68523756/hr_in_the_age_of_ai_cole_napper_on_people_analytics_generative_ai_and_redefining_value.mp3" length="50684654" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S9WNfPER2ol8XAAByD5u5IhWKOgOOe2F/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Stacia and Dani sit down once again with Cole Napper, author of “People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset.” A year after his first appearance, Cole returns with bold insights about the seismic changes...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode, Stacia and Dani sit down once again with Cole Napper, author of “People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset.” A year after his first appearance, Cole returns with bold insights about the seismic changes facing HR and people analytics, and why now is the time to rethink how we define value in the workplace.<br /><br />Cole argues that the future of HR depends on shedding its transactional skin and embracing a new, data-driven paradigm. He discusses why traditional models like Dave Ulrich’s COE framework won’t survive the decade, how organizations can “discorrelate” from market forces by proving business value, and why fear, not technology, is the biggest obstacle to transformation. <br /><br />With sharp humor and evidence from his own research, Cole makes the case for a redefined HR: one that blends human strategy with AI-powered intelligence to drive growth, not just efficiency.<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br />[00:00] Building a new HR paradigm in the Gen AI era.<br />[06:00] Why people analytics hit its “identity crisis” after 2022.<br />[12:00] How to prove HR’s business value beyond metrics.<br />[19:00] The decline of the Ulrich HR model and what replaces it.<br />[24:00] The future of AI-driven workforce transformation.<br />[33:00] The tension between the HR and finance worldviews.<br />[46:00] Why data infrastructure is suddenly “sexy” again.<br />[52:00] Three possible futures for HR in the next decade.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Building a New Paradigm for People Analytics</b><br />Cole’s new book calls for a reset in how organizations use data, not as an isolated reporting function but as a business accelerator. He reveals how people analytics can move from being “scorekeepers” to strategic partners by tackling the questions behind the questions: Why is it happening? What should we do about it? His message is clear, analytics must tie directly to revenue, cost, or risk reduction, or it’s just a hobby.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The End of HR as We Know It</b><br />Cole predicts that the Ulrich model, the long-standing HR framework of COEs, service centers, and HRBPs, won’t survive the coming decade. As generative AI automates much of HR’s transactional work, only the strategic and human elements will remain. He and the hosts debate what should stay human and what can be delegated to machines, exploring the fine line between technological efficiency and organizational soul.<br /><b></b><br /><b>AI, Accountability, and the Future of Work</b><br />Cole cautions that while AI’s potential is vast, it cannot replace human accountability. Drawing a parallel with the evolution of chess, he argues that AI will transform HR’s “game,” not erase it. The goal isn’t to align around AI as a tool, but to use it to unlock entirely new possibilities in how we work, learn, and grow.<br /><br /><b>Infrastructure, Not Illusion</b><br />For all the hype, Cole reminds leaders that the foundation of AI success lies in data infrastructure, “the least sexy but most essential lever.” Without it, organizations risk failure in the next wave of transformation. Investing in data quality, architecture, and scalability today determines who thrives, or disappears, tomorrow.<b><br /></b><br /><b></b><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/People-Analytics-Using-data-driven-business/dp/1398622168" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">People Analytics: Using Data-Driven HR and Gen AI as a Business Asset by Cole Napper</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Cole Napper<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/colenapper/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3621</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/31f2e82b7ca713026a12d6e6b1958e63.jpg"/><itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Eight Levers for the Future: Lori Niles-Hoffman on Reimagining EdTech Transformation</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/eight-levers-for-the-future-lori-niles-hoffman-on-reimagining-edtech-transformation--68421462</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Lori Niles-Hoffman, global learning strategist, EdTech advisor, and author of The Eight Levers of EdTech Transformation. With over 25 years of experience implementing large-scale learning systems, Lori brings a no-nonsense, deeply human perspective to how organizations can thrive at the intersection of technology, data, and talent.<br /><br />Lori reveals why EdTech success isn’t about shiny tools, it’s about mastering eight foundational levers that determine whether your learning strategy creates value or chaos. From ecosystem thinking to stakeholder management, she explains how leaders can future-proof learning strategies through data, design, and disciplined experimentation.<br /><br />You’ll hear candid insights on how AI is reshaping L&amp;D, not by changing the rules, but by exposing where we’ve been weak all along. Lori also shares why the “backend just got sexy,” and how the next competitive edge won’t come from beautiful interfaces, but from the quality of data and insights driving them.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br />[00:00] The eight levers shaping EdTech transformation.<br />[06:00] Lessons from 25 years in enterprise learning systems.<br />[09:00] Why most L&amp;D tech investments fail before they start.<br />[14:00] The rise of data literacy and “sexy backends” in learning design.<br />[17:00] Why clean data matters more than new tool.<br />[24:00] A breakdown of the eight levers and how they work together.<br />[29:00] Stakeholder management and ecosystem thinking in practice.<br />[35:00] The new role of AI in exposing weak learning strategies.<br />[39:00] Why skills, not titles, will define the future of learning.<br />[41:00] The human side of transformation: keeping people at the center.<br /><br /><b>The Future of Learning Isn’t About Tech, It’s About Leverage</b><br />Lori’s framework flips the script on how organizations approach learning transformation. Rather than starting with technology, she urges leaders to first clarify their target operating model, data readiness, and stakeholder relationships. The result? Smarter decisions, stronger credibility, and sustainable change.<br /><br />Her book’s eight levers, ranging from content strategy to ecosystem alignment, help leaders navigate the “medium term” (through 2028) of rapid evolution in learning technology. As Lori puts it, the goal isn’t to adopt AI or automation for their own sake, it’s to make learning adaptive, outcomes-focused, and undeniably relevant.<br /><br /><b>Data, Ecosystems, and the “Sexy Backend”</b><br />Forget fancy dashboards, Lori believes the true revolution is happening behind the scenes. As user interfaces disappear and voice or text prompts replace them, differentiation will come from data governance, interoperability, and predictive insights. The backend, she says, is now where strategy lives.<br /><br />She emphasizes that AI doesn’t change the levers, it exposes their weaknesses. The organizations winning in this new era will be those that invest in clean data, aligned systems, and smart stakeholder engagement.Skills as the Spine of the Future WorkforceAmong the eight levers, Lori highlights skills as the “spine” connecting every other element of learning strategy.<br /><br />She challenges L&amp;D professionals to stop chasing shiny taxonomies and instead treat skills like a supply chain, measured, managed, and constantly replenished. The goal isn’t just mobility or efficiency; it’s resilience.<br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/learning-dev-final-report-the-art-and-science-of-designing-a-learning-technology-ecosystem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">L&amp;D Tech Ecosystem 2020</a></li><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/skills-final-report-the-skills-odyssey-how-to-design-your-strategy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Skills Oddyssey</a></li><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/learning-dev-final-report-hope-isnt-a-plan-building-a-progressive-ld-strategy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learning Strategy paper</a></li><li><a href="https://www.8levers.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lori's book</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Lori Niles-Hoffman<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorinileshofmann" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lori on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68421462</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 06:00:14 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68421462/eight_levers_for_the_future_lor.mp3" length="35734620" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-OVKRNXv3w3xvlji_UewPurjA00pWbES/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Lori Niles-Hoffman, global learning strategist, EdTech advisor, and author of The Eight Levers of EdTech Transformation. With over 25 years of experience implementing large-scale learning systems,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Lori Niles-Hoffman, global learning strategist, EdTech advisor, and author of The Eight Levers of EdTech Transformation. With over 25 years of experience implementing large-scale learning systems, Lori brings a no-nonsense, deeply human perspective to how organizations can thrive at the intersection of technology, data, and talent.<br /><br />Lori reveals why EdTech success isn’t about shiny tools, it’s about mastering eight foundational levers that determine whether your learning strategy creates value or chaos. From ecosystem thinking to stakeholder management, she explains how leaders can future-proof learning strategies through data, design, and disciplined experimentation.<br /><br />You’ll hear candid insights on how AI is reshaping L&amp;D, not by changing the rules, but by exposing where we’ve been weak all along. Lori also shares why the “backend just got sexy,” and how the next competitive edge won’t come from beautiful interfaces, but from the quality of data and insights driving them.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br />[00:00] The eight levers shaping EdTech transformation.<br />[06:00] Lessons from 25 years in enterprise learning systems.<br />[09:00] Why most L&amp;D tech investments fail before they start.<br />[14:00] The rise of data literacy and “sexy backends” in learning design.<br />[17:00] Why clean data matters more than new tool.<br />[24:00] A breakdown of the eight levers and how they work together.<br />[29:00] Stakeholder management and ecosystem thinking in practice.<br />[35:00] The new role of AI in exposing weak learning strategies.<br />[39:00] Why skills, not titles, will define the future of learning.<br />[41:00] The human side of transformation: keeping people at the center.<br /><br /><b>The Future of Learning Isn’t About Tech, It’s About Leverage</b><br />Lori’s framework flips the script on how organizations approach learning transformation. Rather than starting with technology, she urges leaders to first clarify their target operating model, data readiness, and stakeholder relationships. The result? Smarter decisions, stronger credibility, and sustainable change.<br /><br />Her book’s eight levers, ranging from content strategy to ecosystem alignment, help leaders navigate the “medium term” (through 2028) of rapid evolution in learning technology. As Lori puts it, the goal isn’t to adopt AI or automation for their own sake, it’s to make learning adaptive, outcomes-focused, and undeniably relevant.<br /><br /><b>Data, Ecosystems, and the “Sexy Backend”</b><br />Forget fancy dashboards, Lori believes the true revolution is happening behind the scenes. As user interfaces disappear and voice or text prompts replace them, differentiation will come from data governance, interoperability, and predictive insights. The backend, she says, is now where strategy lives.<br /><br />She emphasizes that AI doesn’t change the levers, it exposes their weaknesses. The organizations winning in this new era will be those that invest in clean data, aligned systems, and smart stakeholder engagement.Skills as the Spine of the Future WorkforceAmong the eight levers, Lori highlights skills as the “spine” connecting every other element of learning strategy.<br /><br />She challenges L&amp;D professionals to stop chasing shiny taxonomies and instead treat skills like a supply chain, measured, managed, and constantly replenished. The goal isn’t just mobility or efficiency; it’s resilience.<br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/learning-dev-final-report-the-art-and-science-of-designing-a-learning-technology-ecosystem" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">L&amp;D Tech Ecosystem 2020</a></li><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/skills-final-report-the-skills-odyssey-how-to-design-your-strategy"...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2553</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48ed444519e148db5c1bab0fd915f7c6.jpg"/><itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Three Futures for Learning: How AI Is Rewriting L&amp;D with Donald H. Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/three-futures-for-learning-how-ai-is-rewriting-l-d-with-donald-h-taylor-and-egle-vinauskaite--68234984</link><description><![CDATA[Just two years ago, AI was a shiny new object in L&amp;D, with most professionals dabbling in small pilots and content creation experiments. The latest findings reveal an inflection point: the majority of L&amp;D teams are now actively using AI, not merely testing it.<br /><br />This week, on the podcast are Donald H. Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė, the minds behind a groundbreaking new report, "AI &amp; Learning 2025: Race for Impact." We’re exploring the rapid changes AI is bringing to Learning and Development (L&amp;D), from early experimentation to widespread implementation, and what it means for the future of work.<br /><br />In this conversation, you’ll hear about the three distinct futures for L&amp;D departments, how AI is moving beyond simple content creation into qualitative analytics and adaptive learning, and why team culture and leadership are crucial for success. We also dig into some big philosophical questions: How do we keep humans at the center of tech-driven workplaces? And how will AI reshape the very definition of value in L&amp;D?<br /><br />This episode is packed with insights, data, and stories from organizations at the forefront of change. So, get ready to rethink how learning happens and how impactful workplace transformation can be.<b><br /></b><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] How AI is transforming Learning and Development.</li><li>[05:40] Transition from experimentation to mainstream implementation of AI in L&amp;D.</li><li>[13:31] Debunking the maturity model.</li><li>[16:03] AI integration culture in organizations.</li><li>[25:07] AI's impact on L&amp;D values.</li><li>[38:54] Necessity for L&amp;D to demonstrate clear impact and unique value beyond content.</li><li>[47:36] Leadership Beyond the L&amp;D silo.</li><li>[52:25] Introduction of the “transformation triangle”: three potential strategic futures.</li></ul><b>The Rapid Evolution of AI in L&amp;D<br /></b>AI usage still predominantly supports content creation and design, but there’s an intriguing rise in more sophisticated applications, especially data analysis, dynamic feedback, and even AI-driven coaching. For L&amp;D leaders, the big question is no longer “should we use AI?” but “how can we use it to unlock deeper value for our organizations?”<br /><b></b><br /><b>What Sets Successful L&amp;D Teams Apart?<br /></b>A critical insight from the report is the role of mindset and organizational culture in successful AI adoption. Teams thriving with AI aren’t necessarily bigger or better-resourced; they are “open” teams, led by individuals who embrace risk, imperfect information, and proactive change. These leaders are comfortable experimenting without knowing all the answers, an essential trait for the current landscape.<br /><br />True transformation requires more than tech skills; it demands business acumen, a robust understanding of performance, and an ability to integrate learning with business strategy. L&amp;D teams must move from being passive order-takers to strategic partners, actively shaping how people develop and perform.<b><br /></b><b></b><br /><b>AI: Threat or Opportunity for Traditional L&amp;D Roles?<br /></b>For some, the rise of AI in learning is unnerving. Tasks once considered core, like instructional design or content creation, can increasingly be automated, often cheaper and faster than before. Taylor cautions that unless L&amp;D professionals shift their value proposition from content production to driving true impact, their roles risk being diminished or redefined.<br /><br />But there is an opportunity for L&amp;D to expand its influence. Rather than being relegated to the background, teams can now focus on performance support, skills stewardship, and facilitating human growth, areas where strategic thinking and deep expertise are critical and cannot be automated away.<br /><b><br />Three Futures for L&amp;D: Skills Authority, Enablement Partner, Adaptation Engine<br /></b>Perhaps the most provocative segment of the episode introduced three possible “futures” for L&amp;D roles in the AI era:<br /><b><br />Skills Authority: </b>L&amp;D becomes the custodian of skills, owning skill taxonomies, plumbing, and strategic workforce development. This future demands advanced expertise in identifying, building, and tracking capabilities crucial to business success.<b><br /></b><b></b><br /><b>Enablement Partner: </b>Here, L&amp;D empowers employees across the organization to create their own learning solutions. The team shifts from direct content delivery to building infrastructure, processes, and trust, letting expertise flourish where it’s needed most.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Adaptation Engine: </b>The most radical scenario, where L&amp;D is absorbed into cross-functional teams focused on rapid business adaptation. Learning professionals blend with design, tech, and operations to solve holistic problems, making learning indistinguishable from broader performance improvement.<b><br /><br /></b>While AI will eventually become as invisible as electricity, the human element in learning, facilitation, creativity, and stewardship remains paramount. The priority for leaders now is to harness AI thoughtfully, ensuring it serves genuine learning and performance goals rather than just delivering faster horses. <br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus04-race-for-impact/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI in L&amp;D: The Race For Impact</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nodes.works/reports" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI in L&amp;D (4 Reports)</a> </li></ul><b></b><b>Connect with Donald H. Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinauskaite/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Egle Vinauskaite on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/donaldhtaylor/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Donald H Taylor on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68234984</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68234984/authors_of_ai_in_l_d_the_race_for_impact_donald_h_taylor_and_egl_vinauskait.mp3" length="55655077" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QBgGVhrMhGgoeShwdjqLuXL2PQiq_S4t/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Just two years ago, AI was a shiny new object in L&amp;amp;D, with most professionals dabbling in small pilots and content creation experiments. The latest findings reveal an inflection point: the majority of L&amp;amp;D teams are now actively using AI, not...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Just two years ago, AI was a shiny new object in L&amp;D, with most professionals dabbling in small pilots and content creation experiments. The latest findings reveal an inflection point: the majority of L&amp;D teams are now actively using AI, not merely testing it.<br /><br />This week, on the podcast are Donald H. Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė, the minds behind a groundbreaking new report, "AI &amp; Learning 2025: Race for Impact." We’re exploring the rapid changes AI is bringing to Learning and Development (L&amp;D), from early experimentation to widespread implementation, and what it means for the future of work.<br /><br />In this conversation, you’ll hear about the three distinct futures for L&amp;D departments, how AI is moving beyond simple content creation into qualitative analytics and adaptive learning, and why team culture and leadership are crucial for success. We also dig into some big philosophical questions: How do we keep humans at the center of tech-driven workplaces? And how will AI reshape the very definition of value in L&amp;D?<br /><br />This episode is packed with insights, data, and stories from organizations at the forefront of change. So, get ready to rethink how learning happens and how impactful workplace transformation can be.<b><br /></b><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] How AI is transforming Learning and Development.</li><li>[05:40] Transition from experimentation to mainstream implementation of AI in L&amp;D.</li><li>[13:31] Debunking the maturity model.</li><li>[16:03] AI integration culture in organizations.</li><li>[25:07] AI's impact on L&amp;D values.</li><li>[38:54] Necessity for L&amp;D to demonstrate clear impact and unique value beyond content.</li><li>[47:36] Leadership Beyond the L&amp;D silo.</li><li>[52:25] Introduction of the “transformation triangle”: three potential strategic futures.</li></ul><b>The Rapid Evolution of AI in L&amp;D<br /></b>AI usage still predominantly supports content creation and design, but there’s an intriguing rise in more sophisticated applications, especially data analysis, dynamic feedback, and even AI-driven coaching. For L&amp;D leaders, the big question is no longer “should we use AI?” but “how can we use it to unlock deeper value for our organizations?”<br /><b></b><br /><b>What Sets Successful L&amp;D Teams Apart?<br /></b>A critical insight from the report is the role of mindset and organizational culture in successful AI adoption. Teams thriving with AI aren’t necessarily bigger or better-resourced; they are “open” teams, led by individuals who embrace risk, imperfect information, and proactive change. These leaders are comfortable experimenting without knowing all the answers, an essential trait for the current landscape.<br /><br />True transformation requires more than tech skills; it demands business acumen, a robust understanding of performance, and an ability to integrate learning with business strategy. L&amp;D teams must move from being passive order-takers to strategic partners, actively shaping how people develop and perform.<b><br /></b><b></b><br /><b>AI: Threat or Opportunity for Traditional L&amp;D Roles?<br /></b>For some, the rise of AI in learning is unnerving. Tasks once considered core, like instructional design or content creation, can increasingly be automated, often cheaper and faster than before. Taylor cautions that unless L&amp;D professionals shift their value proposition from content production to driving true impact, their roles risk being diminished or redefined.<br /><br />But there is an opportunity for L&amp;D to expand its influence. Rather than being relegated to the background, teams can now focus on performance support, skills stewardship, and facilitating human growth, areas where strategic thinking and deep expertise are critical and cannot be automated away.<br /><b><br />Three Futures for L&amp;D: Skills Authority, Enablement...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3976</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,aiinlearning,aiintheworkplace,employment,futureofwork,humanresource,humanresources,learninganddevelopment,work,workplace,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/78f234dcbe6170e1620f763cf32cf63e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Believability: The Secret to AI Adoption in Learning</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/believability-the-secret-to-ai-adoption-in-learning--68149879</link><description><![CDATA[Artificial Intelligence is transforming corporate learning, but not every organization is doing it in ways that employees actually trust. In this episode of Workplace Stories, we talk with Peter Manniche Riber, Digital Learning &amp; AI Leader, about how his team built AI-powered learning tools that employees truly believe in.<br /><br />From creating the “Dilemma Coach” and “IDP Coach” to redefining personalization and data privacy, Peter demonstrates what happens when innovation is combined with practicality, and why sometimes the smartest move is to build, rather than buy.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Why “believability” is the key to AI adoption.</li><li>[04:50] How Novo Nordisk’s “Dilemma Coach” and “IDP Coach” came to life.</li><li>[09:00] Why less data, and the right data, creates better personalization.</li><li>[17:00] Balancing privacy, ethics, and personalization in AI learning.</li><li>[25:30] Working with works councils and data regulators early.</li><li>[33:00] Scaling learning equity and access across global teams.</li><li>[39:40] What AI means for strategic workforce planning.</li><li>[41:30] Peter’s advice for L&amp;D leaders ready to experiment with AI.</li></ul><b><br />The Power of “Believability” in AI Learning</b><br />At Novo Nordisk, Peter’s team coined a simple but powerful concept, believability. It means people will only engage with AI tools if they recognize themselves and their context in the experience. Through hundreds of user tests, they found that when an AI response feels personal and relevant, adoption skyrockets.Rather than hoarding corporate data, they ask employees directly about their goals, challenges, and career aspirations. This approach not only keeps data secure but also ensures every interaction feels real, human, and trustworthy.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Why Novo Nordisk Built Its Own AI Tools</b><br />When it came to designing learning applications, Peter’s team decided to build rather than buy. The reason? Control, context, and compliance. Off-the-shelf tools couldn’t meet Novo Nordisk’s strict privacy standards or reflect its unique leadership culture. By developing internally, the team could train AI on company-specific frameworks, design intuitive UX guardrails, and maintain full ownership of their data, while spending less than a handful of traditional e-learning modules would cost.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Redefining Data and Trust</b><br />Instead of scraping internal systems, Peter’s philosophy is simple: ask people. Employees willingly provide fresh, accurate context when they understand how it’s used. Transparency and consent are baked into the process, with large-font screens explaining how data is handled and why it matters.The result? Nearly 90% of employees feel completely safe using these tools, a remarkable trust level for AI-driven systems inside a regulated, global company.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The Future of L&amp;D and AI Experimentation</b><br />Peter’s message to learning leaders: stop waiting for perfection and start experimenting. You don’t need a massive budget or a team of data scientists to create meaningful AI applications. What you need is curiosity, clear hypotheses, and the courage to learn by doing.AI won’t replace thoughtful design or human judgment, but it can unlock a new era of personalized, scalable, and believable learning.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.novonordisk.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Novo Nordisk</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Peter Manniche Riber</b><br /><ul><li>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Peter Manniche Riber</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/68149879</guid><pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 14:49:54 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/68149879/digital_learning_and_ai_leader_peter_manniche_riber.mp3" length="36584174" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/12rsvSxeavOvEvDtjC2Kg9WFMrdeHHbAO/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Artificial Intelligence is transforming corporate learning, but not every organization is doing it in ways that employees actually trust. In this episode of Workplace Stories, we talk with Peter Manniche Riber, Digital Learning &amp;amp; AI Leader, about...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Artificial Intelligence is transforming corporate learning, but not every organization is doing it in ways that employees actually trust. In this episode of Workplace Stories, we talk with Peter Manniche Riber, Digital Learning &amp; AI Leader, about how his team built AI-powered learning tools that employees truly believe in.<br /><br />From creating the “Dilemma Coach” and “IDP Coach” to redefining personalization and data privacy, Peter demonstrates what happens when innovation is combined with practicality, and why sometimes the smartest move is to build, rather than buy.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Why “believability” is the key to AI adoption.</li><li>[04:50] How Novo Nordisk’s “Dilemma Coach” and “IDP Coach” came to life.</li><li>[09:00] Why less data, and the right data, creates better personalization.</li><li>[17:00] Balancing privacy, ethics, and personalization in AI learning.</li><li>[25:30] Working with works councils and data regulators early.</li><li>[33:00] Scaling learning equity and access across global teams.</li><li>[39:40] What AI means for strategic workforce planning.</li><li>[41:30] Peter’s advice for L&amp;D leaders ready to experiment with AI.</li></ul><b><br />The Power of “Believability” in AI Learning</b><br />At Novo Nordisk, Peter’s team coined a simple but powerful concept, believability. It means people will only engage with AI tools if they recognize themselves and their context in the experience. Through hundreds of user tests, they found that when an AI response feels personal and relevant, adoption skyrockets.Rather than hoarding corporate data, they ask employees directly about their goals, challenges, and career aspirations. This approach not only keeps data secure but also ensures every interaction feels real, human, and trustworthy.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Why Novo Nordisk Built Its Own AI Tools</b><br />When it came to designing learning applications, Peter’s team decided to build rather than buy. The reason? Control, context, and compliance. Off-the-shelf tools couldn’t meet Novo Nordisk’s strict privacy standards or reflect its unique leadership culture. By developing internally, the team could train AI on company-specific frameworks, design intuitive UX guardrails, and maintain full ownership of their data, while spending less than a handful of traditional e-learning modules would cost.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Redefining Data and Trust</b><br />Instead of scraping internal systems, Peter’s philosophy is simple: ask people. Employees willingly provide fresh, accurate context when they understand how it’s used. Transparency and consent are baked into the process, with large-font screens explaining how data is handled and why it matters.The result? Nearly 90% of employees feel completely safe using these tools, a remarkable trust level for AI-driven systems inside a regulated, global company.<br /><b></b><br /><b>The Future of L&amp;D and AI Experimentation</b><br />Peter’s message to learning leaders: stop waiting for perfection and start experimenting. You don’t need a massive budget or a team of data scientists to create meaningful AI applications. What you need is curiosity, clear hypotheses, and the courage to learn by doing.AI won’t replace thoughtful design or human judgment, but it can unlock a new era of personalized, scalable, and believable learning.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.novonordisk.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Novo Nordisk</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Peter Manniche Riber</b><br /><ul><li>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Peter Manniche Riber</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2614</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>artificial,digitallearning,employee,employeedevelopment,futureofwork,humancapital,humanresources,intelligence,learning,novonordisk,petermannicheriber,work,workplace,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/54f649648458d1a93a60a1aa385d0d09.jpg"/><itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Moving HR from Support to Strategic Driver with Nadia Uberoi</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/moving-hr-from-support-to-strategic-driver-with-nadia-uberoi--67832177</link><description><![CDATA[On the show this week, Nadia Uberoi, Head of People at Garner Health, joins us to explore how HR can move beyond compliance to become a solution-centric and outcome-driven function, aligning closely with the business’s mission and deliverables.<br /><br />Nadia shares practical details on how Garner Health has developed agile people systems and cultivated a high-candor culture rooted in real-time feedback and organizational transparency. We discuss how conscious alignment between HR and business strategy depends on both robust systems and hiring people with the right agile mindset.<br /><br />You’ll hear more about Nadia’s unique approach to performance management, Garner’s decision to publicly share 360 feedback, and how a culture of candor empowers everyone, not just HR, to take ownership of change. Nadia also offers an inside look at the mechanics of building and scaling an intentional organizational culture, and the lessons she’s learned from fast-growing companies.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[05:16] Aligning HR with business strategy and high candor cultures.</li><li>[07:28] Seeking CEO buy-in for strategic alignment.</li><li>[10:37] Balance short-term solutions and long-term infrastructure planning.</li><li>[13:48] Focus on continuous improvement and clarity of responsibilities.</li><li>[21:23] Quarterly planning with smaller, manageable initiatives enables better adaptability and faster impact.</li><li>[29:04] Real-time feedback improved HR-business alignment by enabling quick adjustments.</li><li>[33:31] Real-time feedback and collaboration enable immediate improvements.</li><li>[48:22] Intentionally build and systematize culture for business impact.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.principles.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Principles by Ray Dalio</a></li><li><a href="https://lattice.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lattice</a></li><li><a href="https://www.getgarner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Garner Health</a>   </li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Nadia Uberoi <br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-uberoi/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nadia Uberoi on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67832177</guid><pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67832177/moving_hr_from_support_to_strategic_driver_with_nadia_uberoi.mp3" length="42081957" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KiYF1qX7kvAUoGwVE_BrRDuC_Hj_1FU-YUi4dJa3ACg/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On the show this week, Nadia Uberoi, Head of People at Garner Health, joins us to explore how HR can move beyond compliance to become a solution-centric and outcome-driven function, aligning closely with the business’s mission and deliverables.

Nadia...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On the show this week, Nadia Uberoi, Head of People at Garner Health, joins us to explore how HR can move beyond compliance to become a solution-centric and outcome-driven function, aligning closely with the business’s mission and deliverables.<br /><br />Nadia shares practical details on how Garner Health has developed agile people systems and cultivated a high-candor culture rooted in real-time feedback and organizational transparency. We discuss how conscious alignment between HR and business strategy depends on both robust systems and hiring people with the right agile mindset.<br /><br />You’ll hear more about Nadia’s unique approach to performance management, Garner’s decision to publicly share 360 feedback, and how a culture of candor empowers everyone, not just HR, to take ownership of change. Nadia also offers an inside look at the mechanics of building and scaling an intentional organizational culture, and the lessons she’s learned from fast-growing companies.<br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[05:16] Aligning HR with business strategy and high candor cultures.</li><li>[07:28] Seeking CEO buy-in for strategic alignment.</li><li>[10:37] Balance short-term solutions and long-term infrastructure planning.</li><li>[13:48] Focus on continuous improvement and clarity of responsibilities.</li><li>[21:23] Quarterly planning with smaller, manageable initiatives enables better adaptability and faster impact.</li><li>[29:04] Real-time feedback improved HR-business alignment by enabling quick adjustments.</li><li>[33:31] Real-time feedback and collaboration enable immediate improvements.</li><li>[48:22] Intentionally build and systematize culture for business impact.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.principles.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Principles by Ray Dalio</a></li><li><a href="https://lattice.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lattice</a></li><li><a href="https://www.getgarner.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Garner Health</a>   </li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Nadia Uberoi <br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadia-uberoi/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nadia Uberoi on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3006</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>agile,business,career,employee,employeedevelopment,garner,garnerhealth,hiring,hr,humanresources,nadiauberoi,people,podcast,recruiting,recruitment,systems,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/76b90e8788742b8f10db66918caa674e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Making Skills the Currency of Opportunity with Haley Glover</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/making-skills-the-currency-of-opportunity-with-haley-glover--67524433</link><description><![CDATA[Haley Glover, Senior Director of UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute, is on a mission to build a world where skills—not degrees or pedigrees—are the primary currency of career opportunity.<br /><br />In this expansive conversation, she challenges organizations to think bigger, arguing that investing in frontline workers isn't just a corporate responsibility but a societal imperative that strengthens communities and economies alike.<br /><br />Glover shares her vision for a future where "all learning counts," and individuals own their skills data, freeing it from the silos of employers and academic institutions.<br /><br />Listen in for a dose of realistic optimism on one of the most complex—and human—challenges in the world of work today.<br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><ul><li>[00:00] Intro.</li><li>[03:34] Why skills are a societal issue, not just a corporate one.</li><li>[13:31] Building a realistic ROI case for skills investments.</li><li>[19:32] The "All Learning Counts" vision for skills recognition.</li><li>[24:01] Why the next decade of skills innovation will be "messy."</li><li>[27:56] The cultural blockades preventing a skills-first hiring revolution.</li><li>[36:11] The evolving role and responsibility of the employer.</li><li>[42:25] A real-world example of a company getting it right.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="http://upskillamerica.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/James-Novel-Percival-Everett/dp/0385550367" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James By Percival Everett</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-K-David-James-Duncan/dp/055337849X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Brothers K by David James Duncan</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Haley Glover<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyanneglover/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Haley Glover on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67524433</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67524433/making_skills_the_currency_of_opportunity_with_haley_glover.mp3" length="39672993" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/12JAC4d3KjihPDiSBUPdAdUpUQY7HuXUnHIqrclbSUAU/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Haley Glover, Senior Director of UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute, is on a mission to build a world where skills—not degrees or pedigrees—are the primary currency of career opportunity.

In this expansive conversation, she challenges...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Haley Glover, Senior Director of UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute, is on a mission to build a world where skills—not degrees or pedigrees—are the primary currency of career opportunity.<br /><br />In this expansive conversation, she challenges organizations to think bigger, arguing that investing in frontline workers isn't just a corporate responsibility but a societal imperative that strengthens communities and economies alike.<br /><br />Glover shares her vision for a future where "all learning counts," and individuals own their skills data, freeing it from the silos of employers and academic institutions.<br /><br />Listen in for a dose of realistic optimism on one of the most complex—and human—challenges in the world of work today.<br /><b><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><ul><li>[00:00] Intro.</li><li>[03:34] Why skills are a societal issue, not just a corporate one.</li><li>[13:31] Building a realistic ROI case for skills investments.</li><li>[19:32] The "All Learning Counts" vision for skills recognition.</li><li>[24:01] Why the next decade of skills innovation will be "messy."</li><li>[27:56] The cultural blockades preventing a skills-first hiring revolution.</li><li>[36:11] The evolving role and responsibility of the employer.</li><li>[42:25] A real-world example of a company getting it right.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li><a href="http://upskillamerica.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">UpSkill America at the Aspen Institute</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/James-Novel-Percival-Everett/dp/0385550367" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">James By Percival Everett</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-K-David-James-Duncan/dp/055337849X" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Brothers K by David James Duncan</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Haley Glover<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/haleyanneglover/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Haley Glover on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2834</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aspeninstitute,career,employ,employeedevelopment,employer,employment,hr,humanresource,job,jobmarket,jobs,onthejobtraining,professional,skills,upskill,upskillamerica,work,workplace,workplacedevelopment,workplacesstories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2293108f9b17567e5810630b23161abe.jpg"/><itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Doing More With Less: Serena Gonsalves-Fersch on Lean Talent Teams and Big Impact</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/doing-more-with-less-serena-gonsalves-fersch-on-lean-talent-teams-and-big-impact--67342985</link><description><![CDATA[Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, Global Head of Talent and Academy, shares her refreshingly candid perspective on the evolving role of Learning and Development (L&amp;D) in today’s organizations.<br /><br />You’ll hear her challenge traditional approaches to employee learning, advocate for seamless integration between learning, talent, DEIB, and performance, and call out industry complacency.<br /><br />Serena also shares how her small but mighty team serves 14,000 employees across the globe by staying closely attuned to actual business needs and leveraging the power of data and AI—not just for content creation, but for true predictive insights.<br /><br />Listen in for a fascinating discussion that covers everything from the purpose of L&amp;D, how technology is reshaping talent strategies, to the importance of connecting learning directly to organizational impact.  <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Integrated learning &amp; talent strategy.</li><li>[09:10] Rethinking organizational learning approaches.</li><li>[21:47] Defining HR's role in automation.</li><li>[29:04] Streamlining your learning and development team.</li><li>[31:23] Creating GCP learning journeys.</li><li>[34:49] Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in workplace policy.</li><li>[40:34] AI's Role in boosting efficiency and elevating humanity.</li><li>[47:08] Organizations as continuous learners.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.curiousadvantage.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Curious Advantage by Paul Ashcroft, Simon Brown and Garrick Jones</a></li><li><a href="https://702010institute.com/702010-model/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The 70:20:10 Institute</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorinileshofmann/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lori Niles-Hofmann on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-wetterau-0049166/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jay Wetterau on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.nigelpaine.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nigel Paine</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learning Technologies Awards</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-serena-gonsalves-fersch-flpi-a23589/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, FLPI on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67342985</guid><pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67342985/doing_more_with_less_serena_goncalves_firsh_on_lean_talent_teams_and_big_impact.mp3" length="41194384" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kA40_sREC1qry9rBWWKF_JrB0yQ4vm2ZlNiGPdK1Omg/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, Global Head of Talent and Academy, shares her refreshingly candid perspective on the evolving role of Learning and Development (L&amp;amp;D) in today’s organizations.

You’ll hear her challenge traditional approaches to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, Global Head of Talent and Academy, shares her refreshingly candid perspective on the evolving role of Learning and Development (L&amp;D) in today’s organizations.<br /><br />You’ll hear her challenge traditional approaches to employee learning, advocate for seamless integration between learning, talent, DEIB, and performance, and call out industry complacency.<br /><br />Serena also shares how her small but mighty team serves 14,000 employees across the globe by staying closely attuned to actual business needs and leveraging the power of data and AI—not just for content creation, but for true predictive insights.<br /><br />Listen in for a fascinating discussion that covers everything from the purpose of L&amp;D, how technology is reshaping talent strategies, to the importance of connecting learning directly to organizational impact.  <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>[00:00] Integrated learning &amp; talent strategy.</li><li>[09:10] Rethinking organizational learning approaches.</li><li>[21:47] Defining HR's role in automation.</li><li>[29:04] Streamlining your learning and development team.</li><li>[31:23] Creating GCP learning journeys.</li><li>[34:49] Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in workplace policy.</li><li>[40:34] AI's Role in boosting efficiency and elevating humanity.</li><li>[47:08] Organizations as continuous learners.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.curiousadvantage.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Curious Advantage by Paul Ashcroft, Simon Brown and Garrick Jones</a></li><li><a href="https://702010institute.com/702010-model/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The 70:20:10 Institute</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lorinileshofmann/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lori Niles-Hofmann on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-wetterau-0049166/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jay Wetterau on LinkedIn</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.nigelpaine.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nigel Paine</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learning Technologies Awards</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect with Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-serena-gonsalves-fersch-flpi-a23589/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dr. Serena Gonsalves-Fersch, FLPI on LinkedIn</a> </li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2943</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,data,employee,hire,hiring,hr,humanresource,humantalent,l&amp;d,learninganddevelopment,softwareone,talent</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/68a7d7af4737f4e21fcaf78473c9de40.jpg"/><itunes:episode>110</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building Trust Through Vulnerability: How Zane Zumbahlen Leads Transformational Change</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-trust-through-vulnerability-how-zane-zumbahlen-leads-transformational-change--67080355</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Zane Zumbahlen, Chief People Officer at Wedgwood Veterinary Pharmacy, to explore how vulnerability in leadership can catalyze organizational change.<br /><br />With a 30-year career spanning IBM, CTCA, and global roles in Sweden and Japan, Zane shares candid stories that reveal the power of low-ego, high-confidence leadership. From active listening sessions that rebuilt trust among skeptical managers to structural programs that flipped the risk equation for women leaders, Zane's journey is a masterclass in how HR leaders can move from intention to impactful systems.<br /><br />His approach blends authenticity, experimentation, and a relentless drive to make things better, one conversation at a time.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro</li><li>(04:21) How vulnerability accelerates trust and change.</li><li>(12:45) The real-life risks of emotional leadership.</li><li>(18:50) Driving systemic transformation from the HR seat.</li><li>(22:33) A roadmap for active listening that leads to measurable action.</li><li>(35:10) Building female leadership pipelines in risk-averse cultures.</li><li>(47:52) Examples of HR-led innovation across global contexts.</li><li>(56:15) Rethinking how credibility and compassion coexist in leadership.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.wedgewood.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wedgwood Veterinary Pharmacy</a></li><li><a href="https://adamgrant.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Adam Grant on Personal Branding and Trust</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect with Zane Zumbahlen:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zanezumbahlen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn: Zane Zumbahlen</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br /><br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/67080355</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/67080355/wps109.mp3" length="36152274" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjsG2IusGBSCzRShhq1GTGW1ABpqiyQK/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Zane Zumbahlen, Chief People Officer at Wedgwood Veterinary Pharmacy, to explore how vulnerability in leadership can catalyze organizational change.

With a 30-year career spanning IBM, CTCA, and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Zane Zumbahlen, Chief People Officer at Wedgwood Veterinary Pharmacy, to explore how vulnerability in leadership can catalyze organizational change.<br /><br />With a 30-year career spanning IBM, CTCA, and global roles in Sweden and Japan, Zane shares candid stories that reveal the power of low-ego, high-confidence leadership. From active listening sessions that rebuilt trust among skeptical managers to structural programs that flipped the risk equation for women leaders, Zane's journey is a masterclass in how HR leaders can move from intention to impactful systems.<br /><br />His approach blends authenticity, experimentation, and a relentless drive to make things better, one conversation at a time.<br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...</b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro</li><li>(04:21) How vulnerability accelerates trust and change.</li><li>(12:45) The real-life risks of emotional leadership.</li><li>(18:50) Driving systemic transformation from the HR seat.</li><li>(22:33) A roadmap for active listening that leads to measurable action.</li><li>(35:10) Building female leadership pipelines in risk-averse cultures.</li><li>(47:52) Examples of HR-led innovation across global contexts.</li><li>(56:15) Rethinking how credibility and compassion coexist in leadership.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.wedgewood.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Wedgwood Veterinary Pharmacy</a></li><li><a href="https://adamgrant.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Adam Grant on Personal Branding and Trust</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect with Zane Zumbahlen:</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/zanezumbahlen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn: Zane Zumbahlen</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br /><br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2583</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>companyculture,corporateculture,hiring,hr,humanresources,leadership,management,organization,people,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/33a0a550daebce8d929d49decdeb1533.jpg"/><itunes:episode>109</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Beyond Training: How to Prove L&amp;D Isn’t Just Overhead: Dr. Keith Keating</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/beyond-training-how-to-prove-l-d-isn-t-just-overhead-dr-keith-keating--66803761</link><description><![CDATA[Many organizations see learning and development (L&amp;D) as a cost center rather than a strategic driver of value, but what if that mindset is costing them far more than they realize?<br /><br />In this episode, Dr. Keith Keating explains why we’re moving from a “knowledge economy” to a “value economy,” where it’s not what we know but what we do with it that matters.<br /><br />He shares practical ways for L&amp;D teams to make their impact visible, bridging the disconnect with CFOs and earning a seat at the strategy table. Through his own journey from high-school dropout to Chief Learning Officer, Keith challenges learning leaders to see themselves as problem-solvers and value creators. <br /><br />He offers frameworks like the Value Creation Compass to help map L&amp;D’s role in business growth, resilience, and customer value, showing that when L&amp;D stays hidden, organizations lose far more than training budgets: they lose adaptability and talent. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro.</li><li>(00:22) Keith’s background and why his book matters.</li><li>(04:58) The shift to a value economy for L&amp;D.</li><li>(08:50) Keith’s personal journey from dropout to leader.</li><li>(15:10) Economic, personal, and societal value explained.</li><li>(19:30) Four key disconnects between L&amp;D and CFOs.</li><li>(25:40) The Value Creation Compass model.</li><li>(39:20) Risks if L&amp;D’s value stays hidden.</li></ul><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.bdo.ca/en-ca/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.bdo.ca/en-ca/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Value-Reveal-Organizational-Learning/dp/B0F749SG21/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HSTS9XGUSCSQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SMnKTxjycbnao0bg_zHhDYfufDa-GGNsphZ81YCCGxY.mb9M_0YVJrfAHi4TgfLlP0ohvdiixble0CV5FsKuEyc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=hidden+value+by+keith+keating&amp;qid=1751258500&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=hidden+value+by+keith+keatin%2Cstripbooks%2C127&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hidden Value by Dr. Keith Keating</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Dr. Keith Keating<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-keith-keating-1976963a?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Dr. Keith Keating on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66803761</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66803761/wps108.mp3" length="45072387" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sOFGCXwyiewZMtiXVjBWMxqNWwNHGxy_/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Many organizations see learning and development (L&amp;amp;D) as a cost center rather than a strategic driver of value, but what if that mindset is costing them far more than they realize?

In this episode, Dr. Keith Keating explains why we’re moving from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Many organizations see learning and development (L&amp;D) as a cost center rather than a strategic driver of value, but what if that mindset is costing them far more than they realize?<br /><br />In this episode, Dr. Keith Keating explains why we’re moving from a “knowledge economy” to a “value economy,” where it’s not what we know but what we do with it that matters.<br /><br />He shares practical ways for L&amp;D teams to make their impact visible, bridging the disconnect with CFOs and earning a seat at the strategy table. Through his own journey from high-school dropout to Chief Learning Officer, Keith challenges learning leaders to see themselves as problem-solvers and value creators. <br /><br />He offers frameworks like the Value Creation Compass to help map L&amp;D’s role in business growth, resilience, and customer value, showing that when L&amp;D stays hidden, organizations lose far more than training budgets: they lose adaptability and talent. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro.</li><li>(00:22) Keith’s background and why his book matters.</li><li>(04:58) The shift to a value economy for L&amp;D.</li><li>(08:50) Keith’s personal journey from dropout to leader.</li><li>(15:10) Economic, personal, and societal value explained.</li><li>(19:30) Four key disconnects between L&amp;D and CFOs.</li><li>(25:40) The Value Creation Compass model.</li><li>(39:20) Risks if L&amp;D’s value stays hidden.</li></ul><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.bdo.ca/en-ca/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.bdo.ca/en-ca/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Value-Reveal-Organizational-Learning/dp/B0F749SG21/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HSTS9XGUSCSQ&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.SMnKTxjycbnao0bg_zHhDYfufDa-GGNsphZ81YCCGxY.mb9M_0YVJrfAHi4TgfLlP0ohvdiixble0CV5FsKuEyc&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=hidden+value+by+keith+keating&amp;qid=1751258500&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=hidden+value+by+keith+keatin%2Cstripbooks%2C127&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hidden Value by Dr. Keith Keating</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Dr. Keith Keating<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-keith-keating-1976963a?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Dr. Keith Keating on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3220</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>cfo,employee,employees,hr,humanresources,knowledgeeconomy,leader,leadership,learning,learninganddevelopment,valuecreationcompass,valueeconomy,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ba45b9f7c52bf6eedd4116b0320e526d.jpg"/><itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Stop Guessing: How J&amp;J Gets Precise About Skills w/ Bas Debbink</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/stop-guessing-how-j-j-gets-precise-about-skills-w-bas-debbink--66505505</link><description><![CDATA[Most organizations claim to care about employee development, but upon closer examination, their approach to skills is often vague, subjective, or downright confusing. They might assume people will simply "figure it out" on the job or resort to one-size-fits-all training. If you've ever wondered why your learning investments don’t seem to translate into impact, it might be because you’re still guessing when it comes to skills.<br /><br />Today, you’ll hear how Johnson &amp; Johnson’s tech organization stopped playing the guessing game. With clear processes to identify, assess, and verify skills, both digital and power skills, they’re not just hoping development happens; they’re engineering it. You'll learn how they use both talent leader insight and AI-driven inference to build a skills-based ecosystem that actually works, without overwhelming employees or managers.<br /><br />By the end of the conversation, it’s clear this isn’t about chasing trends. It’s about building a practical, scalable system that aligns employee growth with business needs and helps people know, with confidence, exactly what’s next in their development journey.<b> </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro.</li><li>(02:32) Bas’s career path and transition into L&amp;D.</li><li>(05:08) Structure and priorities of J&amp;J’s tech learning organization.</li><li>(09:00) How J&amp;J defines, identifies, and verifies critical skills.</li><li>(17:34) Messaging, buy-in, and the cultural side of skill building.</li><li>(23:47) How AI and tech are reshaping development and learning systems.</li></ul><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://fortune.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://fortune.com</a></li><li><a href="https://degreed.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://degreed.com</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Bas Debbink<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with Bas Debbink <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bdebbink/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66505505</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 10:35:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66505505/ws_107_updated.mp3" length="30952530" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aW0AxJOwCDr2wk_zLhlWk1U2TshI23RT/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=117535283190177010660&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Most organizations claim to care about employee development, but upon closer examination, their approach to skills is often vague, subjective, or downright confusing. They might assume people will simply "figure it out" on the job or resort to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Most organizations claim to care about employee development, but upon closer examination, their approach to skills is often vague, subjective, or downright confusing. They might assume people will simply "figure it out" on the job or resort to one-size-fits-all training. If you've ever wondered why your learning investments don’t seem to translate into impact, it might be because you’re still guessing when it comes to skills.<br /><br />Today, you’ll hear how Johnson &amp; Johnson’s tech organization stopped playing the guessing game. With clear processes to identify, assess, and verify skills, both digital and power skills, they’re not just hoping development happens; they’re engineering it. You'll learn how they use both talent leader insight and AI-driven inference to build a skills-based ecosystem that actually works, without overwhelming employees or managers.<br /><br />By the end of the conversation, it’s clear this isn’t about chasing trends. It’s about building a practical, scalable system that aligns employee growth with business needs and helps people know, with confidence, exactly what’s next in their development journey.<b> </b><br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Intro.</li><li>(02:32) Bas’s career path and transition into L&amp;D.</li><li>(05:08) Structure and priorities of J&amp;J’s tech learning organization.</li><li>(09:00) How J&amp;J defines, identifies, and verifies critical skills.</li><li>(17:34) Messaging, buy-in, and the cultural side of skill building.</li><li>(23:47) How AI and tech are reshaping development and learning systems.</li></ul><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://fortune.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://fortune.com</a></li><li><a href="https://degreed.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://degreed.com</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Bas Debbink<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with Bas Debbink <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/bdebbink/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2211</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employee,employeedevelopment,employeegrowth,hr,humanresources,leadership,management,skills,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/032fc43b0c438f3b55753c9d873e67aa.jpg"/><itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Leadership as a System, Not a Trait, with Cher Murphy</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/leadership-as-a-system-not-a-trait-with-cher-murphy--66327576</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, Dani Johnson talks with Cher Murphy, Partner, Head of People+Talent Practice at ON Partner, founder of The Murphy Advisory, and faculty member at Pepperdine and the University of Michigan. Drawing from her deep experience in executive coaching and leadership development, Cher shares how leadership is evolving in response to rapid technological, political, and organizational change. She emphasizes that while AI and data can enhance decision-making, human traits like discernment, empathy, and the ability to communicate clearly remain irreplaceable. Leaders today must move from a mindset of control to one of clarity, especially as strategic planning windows shorten and collaboration across functions becomes essential.<br /><br />Cher also reflects on the erosion of trust in organizations and how leaders can rebuild it through transparency, consistency, and shared logic. She introduces the concept of leadership as a system—not just a set of traits—which, when embedded across all levels of an organization, can outlast any one individual. The conversation touches on the future of leadership development, the convergence of people functions, and how leaders can balance data and intuition to make better decisions. Ultimately, Cher makes a compelling case that strong leadership is still—at its core—a deeply human endeavor.<br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>(00:00) — Intro &amp; Cher’s background</li><li>(04:00) — Leadership mindsets, speed, and trust</li><li>(12:00) — Rebuilding trust &amp; communication challenges</li><li>(20:00) — Structural shifts and cross-functional collaboration</li><li>(26:00) — AI’s role, human skills, and decision-making</li><li>(32:00) — Universal leadership traits &amp; leadership as a system</li><li>(39:00) — Succession, culture fit, and final reflections on meaning</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.onpartners.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.onpartners.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jeffwetzler.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.jeffwetzler.com</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Cher Murphy<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chermurphy/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cher Murphy on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66327576</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66327576/wps_105.mp3" length="37579267" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19tZoZUHaw90keX9Uq6jC_q1hvsvninmIqat_LUgGYFc/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Workplace Stories, Dani Johnson talks with Cher Murphy, Partner, Head of People+Talent Practice at ON Partner, founder of The Murphy Advisory, and faculty member at Pepperdine and the University of Michigan. Drawing from her deep...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, Dani Johnson talks with Cher Murphy, Partner, Head of People+Talent Practice at ON Partner, founder of The Murphy Advisory, and faculty member at Pepperdine and the University of Michigan. Drawing from her deep experience in executive coaching and leadership development, Cher shares how leadership is evolving in response to rapid technological, political, and organizational change. She emphasizes that while AI and data can enhance decision-making, human traits like discernment, empathy, and the ability to communicate clearly remain irreplaceable. Leaders today must move from a mindset of control to one of clarity, especially as strategic planning windows shorten and collaboration across functions becomes essential.<br /><br />Cher also reflects on the erosion of trust in organizations and how leaders can rebuild it through transparency, consistency, and shared logic. She introduces the concept of leadership as a system—not just a set of traits—which, when embedded across all levels of an organization, can outlast any one individual. The conversation touches on the future of leadership development, the convergence of people functions, and how leaders can balance data and intuition to make better decisions. Ultimately, Cher makes a compelling case that strong leadership is still—at its core—a deeply human endeavor.<br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>(00:00) — Intro &amp; Cher’s background</li><li>(04:00) — Leadership mindsets, speed, and trust</li><li>(12:00) — Rebuilding trust &amp; communication challenges</li><li>(20:00) — Structural shifts and cross-functional collaboration</li><li>(26:00) — AI’s role, human skills, and decision-making</li><li>(32:00) — Universal leadership traits &amp; leadership as a system</li><li>(39:00) — Succession, culture fit, and final reflections on meaning</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.onpartners.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.onpartners.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.jeffwetzler.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.jeffwetzler.com</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Cher Murphy<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chermurphy/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cher Murphy on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2685</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>data,employee,hr,humancapital,humanresources,leadership,management,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7fcddf1b01f00d46558d784cbcb2b601.jpg"/><itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Your Strategic Plan Might Be Trapping You, with Lisa Kay Solomon and Jeffrey Rogers</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-your-strategic-plan-might-be-trapping-you-with-lisa-kay-solomon-and-jeffrey-rogers--66174024</link><description><![CDATA[Most leadership development still clings to certainty, quarterly goals, strategic plans, official futures etched in stone. But what if that mindset isn’t just outdated, it’s dangerous? In this episode, Dani Johnson and Stacia Garr sit down with futurists and experience designers Lisa Kay Solomon and Jeff Rogers, two minds helping rewire how leaders think about the future, not as a distant unknown, but as a daily design challenge. What unfolds is a conversation that’s as practical as it is provocative, revealing how our obsession with predictability might be blinding us to the signals we most need to see.<br /><br />For learning leaders, especially those in HR and people analytics, this episode offers a wake-up call. Future thinking isn’t a luxury or a moonshot exercise. It’s a leadership muscle, and the longer it goes untrained, the more fragile our organizations become. Lisa and Jeff unpack what it really means to design for the future, not just in abstract vision decks, but in how we design meetings, questions, experiences, and even relationships. Their approach is grounded in curiosity, humility, and a radical shift from answers to inquiry.<br /><br />By the end, listeners don’t just understand why futures thinking matters, they feel invited to do something about it. The conversation offers not just hope, but tools: from rethinking design as a vehicle for emergence, to spotting and disrupting “official futures” inside their own organizations. Whether you’re planning your next L&amp;D initiative or shaping strategy for a shifting workforce, this episode shows you how to lead with intention, not from the past, but toward what’s possible.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) The overlooked leadership skill hiding in plain sight.</li><li>(03:30) Meet the minds behind Elevate: Futurists with a purpose.</li><li>(09:00) From theory to traction: Making futures thinking useful now.</li><li>(15:00) Design that disrupts: How to spark new thinking in any room.</li><li>(22:00) The silent trap: How a single “official future” keeps orgs stuck.</li><li>(30:40) Elevate’s true mission: Courage, connection, and change for learning leaders.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://lisakaysolomon.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lisakaysolomon.com</a></li><li>https://rdcl.is/</li></ul><b><br />Connect with Lisa &amp; Jeff<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyleerogers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jeffrey Rogers on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakaysolomon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lisa Kay Solomon on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66174024</guid><pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 17:50:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66174024/ws_105.mp3" length="40713438" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k1BVUXUvS_5w4rF2uD7uLSuE1P4hhhX1IIxMwrFc2g0/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Most leadership development still clings to certainty, quarterly goals, strategic plans, official futures etched in stone. But what if that mindset isn’t just outdated, it’s dangerous? In this episode, Dani Johnson and Stacia Garr sit down with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Most leadership development still clings to certainty, quarterly goals, strategic plans, official futures etched in stone. But what if that mindset isn’t just outdated, it’s dangerous? In this episode, Dani Johnson and Stacia Garr sit down with futurists and experience designers Lisa Kay Solomon and Jeff Rogers, two minds helping rewire how leaders think about the future, not as a distant unknown, but as a daily design challenge. What unfolds is a conversation that’s as practical as it is provocative, revealing how our obsession with predictability might be blinding us to the signals we most need to see.<br /><br />For learning leaders, especially those in HR and people analytics, this episode offers a wake-up call. Future thinking isn’t a luxury or a moonshot exercise. It’s a leadership muscle, and the longer it goes untrained, the more fragile our organizations become. Lisa and Jeff unpack what it really means to design for the future, not just in abstract vision decks, but in how we design meetings, questions, experiences, and even relationships. Their approach is grounded in curiosity, humility, and a radical shift from answers to inquiry.<br /><br />By the end, listeners don’t just understand why futures thinking matters, they feel invited to do something about it. The conversation offers not just hope, but tools: from rethinking design as a vehicle for emergence, to spotting and disrupting “official futures” inside their own organizations. Whether you’re planning your next L&amp;D initiative or shaping strategy for a shifting workforce, this episode shows you how to lead with intention, not from the past, but toward what’s possible.<br /><b><br /> You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) The overlooked leadership skill hiding in plain sight.</li><li>(03:30) Meet the minds behind Elevate: Futurists with a purpose.</li><li>(09:00) From theory to traction: Making futures thinking useful now.</li><li>(15:00) Design that disrupts: How to spark new thinking in any room.</li><li>(22:00) The silent trap: How a single “official future” keeps orgs stuck.</li><li>(30:40) Elevate’s true mission: Courage, connection, and change for learning leaders.</li></ul><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://lisakaysolomon.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://lisakaysolomon.com</a></li><li>https://rdcl.is/</li></ul><b><br />Connect with Lisa &amp; Jeff<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyleerogers/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jeffrey Rogers on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakaysolomon/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lisa Kay Solomon on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2909</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employee,futureofwork,hr,leadership,management,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/df9a78190d7c0244739afd5061daee1b.jpg"/><itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>"Wait, You Still Make People Fill Out HR Forms?" with Josh Novelle</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/wait-you-still-make-people-fill-out-hr-forms-with-josh-novelle--66085634</link><description><![CDATA[Many teams don’t realize how much time their people are losing to repetitive tasks and clunky systems. From filling out HR forms to bouncing between platforms, what’s called “employee experience” often adds up to unnecessary friction. The real problem? No one’s questioning whether those steps need to exist at all. There’s an unspoken assumption that better design means more interface, more features, more engagement. But what if the most valuable tech quietly solved problems in the background, no logins, no dropdowns, no disruption?<br /><br />Josh Novelle, Global Head of People Solutions at Convatec, argues that it’s time to rethink how we define value in HR tech. In his world, the best tools don’t ask people to step out of their workday to interact with them, they fit invisibly into the flow. He points out how incentives from vendors often run counter to what organizations need, and how this misalignment quietly drains productivity. From nudging employees to use their leave before burnout hits, to questioning why booking time off isn’t already embedded in your calendar, he challenges long-held assumptions with clear, practical alternatives.<br /><br />This conversation goes beyond tool choices. It raises a bigger question: what if your systems could work together behind the scenes to deliver support without demanding attention? As the boundaries between work, systems, and experience blur, the teams that win won't be the ones with the flashiest platforms. They'll be the ones who make their tech nearly disappear. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Redefining employee experience beyond HR systems.</li><li>(08:50) Choosing tech partners and surfacing vendor misalignment.</li><li>(18:00) The rise of headless tech and middleware's quiet power.</li><li>(27:10) Subtle interventions that reduce burnout.</li><li>(35:00) Where AI fits into employee experience.</li><li>(44:30) Why leadership development fails without operational alignment.</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.convatecgroup.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.convatecgroup.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Josh Novelle<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshnovelle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Josh Novelle on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/66085634</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 23:04:43 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/66085634/wps104.mp3" length="44467861" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iaYL1P3fpDhmD0LPBTLT53bVd8Wq8Chkk1L4A8jqDww/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Many teams don’t realize how much time their people are losing to repetitive tasks and clunky systems. From filling out HR forms to bouncing between platforms, what’s called “employee experience” often adds up to unnecessary friction. The real...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Many teams don’t realize how much time their people are losing to repetitive tasks and clunky systems. From filling out HR forms to bouncing between platforms, what’s called “employee experience” often adds up to unnecessary friction. The real problem? No one’s questioning whether those steps need to exist at all. There’s an unspoken assumption that better design means more interface, more features, more engagement. But what if the most valuable tech quietly solved problems in the background, no logins, no dropdowns, no disruption?<br /><br />Josh Novelle, Global Head of People Solutions at Convatec, argues that it’s time to rethink how we define value in HR tech. In his world, the best tools don’t ask people to step out of their workday to interact with them, they fit invisibly into the flow. He points out how incentives from vendors often run counter to what organizations need, and how this misalignment quietly drains productivity. From nudging employees to use their leave before burnout hits, to questioning why booking time off isn’t already embedded in your calendar, he challenges long-held assumptions with clear, practical alternatives.<br /><br />This conversation goes beyond tool choices. It raises a bigger question: what if your systems could work together behind the scenes to deliver support without demanding attention? As the boundaries between work, systems, and experience blur, the teams that win won't be the ones with the flashiest platforms. They'll be the ones who make their tech nearly disappear. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(00:00) Redefining employee experience beyond HR systems.</li><li>(08:50) Choosing tech partners and surfacing vendor misalignment.</li><li>(18:00) The rise of headless tech and middleware's quiet power.</li><li>(27:10) Subtle interventions that reduce burnout.</li><li>(35:00) Where AI fits into employee experience.</li><li>(44:30) Why leadership development fails without operational alignment.</li></ul><br /><b></b><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.convatecgroup.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.convatecgroup.com</a></li><li><a href="https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.learningtechnologies.co.uk</a></li></ul><b><br />Connect with Josh Novelle<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshnovelle" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Josh Novelle on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b></b><br /><b></b><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3177</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employeeexperience,hr,productivity,systems,work,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2be35dc599c5d8d9674f52cf43c06c52.jpg"/><itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>AI’s Not the Problem - It’s How You Use It, with Jeremy Broome of VISA</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ai-s-not-the-problem-it-s-how-you-use-it-with-jeremy-broome-of-visa--65768221</link><description><![CDATA[Most conversations about AI in the workplace get stuck on the surface - job loss fears, tech hype, and hand-wringing about what’s next. But in this episode, we flip the script. What if AI itself isn’t the problem? What if the real story is how organizations introduce, structure, and integrate it into the human fabric of work?<br /><br />Jeremy Broome, Global Head of Talent at Visa, shares how his team navigates AI with a surprisingly optimistic and deeply human approach. From scenario-based workforce planning to AI-powered feedback loops in sales training, Jeremy outlines how Visa empowers employees to experiment safely, learn organically, and ask better questions rather than just seek faster answers. Along the way, he introduces a simple but powerful framework, “one-way doors vs. two-way doors”, for evaluating risk, making bolder moves, and learning without losing trust.<br /><br />This conversation isn't just about tech adoption. It's about how thoughtful design, cultural muscle, and a focus on community can transform fear into fluency and uncertainty into innovation. Whether you're starting your AI journey or stuck in the middle of one, this episode shows you what people-first AI looks like. <br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(0:00) Optimism, people-first AI, and two-way doors.</li><li>(4:36) Jeremy’s background and Visa’s AI legacy.</li><li>(9:06) GenAI as an opportunity and top-down momentum.</li><li>(13:38) Real-world use cases: recruiting, learning, chatbots.</li><li>(17:40) Future-back workforce planning and scenario design.</li><li>(24:01) Learning shifts: community, context, and curiosity.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.highspot.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Highspot</a> - AI coaching in sales training</li><li><a href="https://www.visauniversity.com/en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Visa University</a> - Visa’s internal learning hub</li></ul><b>Connect with Jeremy Broome<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with Jeremy Broome <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-broome-7578366/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65768221</guid><pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2025 18:29:35 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65768221/wps_103.mp3" length="42121804" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLOTo8fAziXKq2pSD7OkyCzW6ZF1QZAk6E6516BK-SM/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Most conversations about AI in the workplace get stuck on the surface - job loss fears, tech hype, and hand-wringing about what’s next. But in this episode, we flip the script. What if AI itself isn’t the problem? What if the real story is how...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Most conversations about AI in the workplace get stuck on the surface - job loss fears, tech hype, and hand-wringing about what’s next. But in this episode, we flip the script. What if AI itself isn’t the problem? What if the real story is how organizations introduce, structure, and integrate it into the human fabric of work?<br /><br />Jeremy Broome, Global Head of Talent at Visa, shares how his team navigates AI with a surprisingly optimistic and deeply human approach. From scenario-based workforce planning to AI-powered feedback loops in sales training, Jeremy outlines how Visa empowers employees to experiment safely, learn organically, and ask better questions rather than just seek faster answers. Along the way, he introduces a simple but powerful framework, “one-way doors vs. two-way doors”, for evaluating risk, making bolder moves, and learning without losing trust.<br /><br />This conversation isn't just about tech adoption. It's about how thoughtful design, cultural muscle, and a focus on community can transform fear into fluency and uncertainty into innovation. Whether you're starting your AI journey or stuck in the middle of one, this episode shows you what people-first AI looks like. <br /><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><br /><ul><li>(0:00) Optimism, people-first AI, and two-way doors.</li><li>(4:36) Jeremy’s background and Visa’s AI legacy.</li><li>(9:06) GenAI as an opportunity and top-down momentum.</li><li>(13:38) Real-world use cases: recruiting, learning, chatbots.</li><li>(17:40) Future-back workforce planning and scenario design.</li><li>(24:01) Learning shifts: community, context, and curiosity.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.highspot.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Highspot</a> - AI coaching in sales training</li><li><a href="https://www.visauniversity.com/en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Visa University</a> - Visa’s internal learning hub</li></ul><b>Connect with Jeremy Broome<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Connect with Jeremy Broome <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-broome-7578366/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3009</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,broome,company,corporate,employees,hr,jeremy,jobs,teams,tech,technology,visa,workforce,workplace</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a7eab0522e9d67b3d358e9df4a91ec1d.jpg"/><itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>“Wait, We’re Still Guessing?” Why HR Needs Better Data - NOW</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/wait-we-re-still-guessing-why-hr-needs-better-data-now--65614660</link><description><![CDATA[HR teams have more data than ever, but many still rely on guesswork when it comes to people decisions. In this episode, we unpack the rapid growth of the people analytics tech market, which ballooned from $1.7B in 2019 to $8.1B by last summer.<br /><br />Hosts Dani Johnson, Stacia Garr, and Priyanka Mehrotra walk through how this market has evolved, what’s driving investment, and why the demand for better-connected, more useful insights keeps rising.<br /><br />We also dig into what’s not working, like customer frustration, disappointing ROI, and the reality that AI in these tools often overpromises and underdelivers. Whether you’re brand new to people analytics or looking to uplevel your HR tech strategy, this episode will help you move from “hoping for the best” to truly leading with insight. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>(0:00) Setting the stage: Why people analytics tech is worth revisiting.</li><li>(4:31) The market’s growth from $1.7B to $8.1B, and what’s fueling it.</li><li>(8:31) Three big shifts: use cases, democratization, and ethics.</li><li>(13:40) Pandemic-driven surge: Why execs finally cared about people data.</li><li>(14:57) What vendors are getting right: Partnerships and practical AI.</li><li>(23:25) Where vendors are falling short: UX, ROI, and unmet promises.</li><li>(29:30) The near-term future: Middleware, consolidation, and embedded insights.</li><li>(36:00) AI expectations vs. reality: Trust, risk, and what vendors still miss.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li>Visier – <a href="https://www.visier.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.visier.com</a></li><li>Culture Amp – <a href="https://www.cultureamp.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.cultureamp.com</a></li><li>One Model – <a href="https://www.onemodel.co" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.onemodel.co</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Dani, Stacia, and Priyanka<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dani-johnson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dani Johnson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/staciashermangarr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Stacia Garr</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/priyankamh/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Priyanka Mehrotra on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65614660</guid><pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2025 18:33:38 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65614660/wps_102.mp3" length="36091907" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yGOW-OWnlFhmAXpKOqQq9HIZHp3CWfrswONDwxb6fik/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>HR teams have more data than ever, but many still rely on guesswork when it comes to people decisions. In this episode, we unpack the rapid growth of the people analytics tech market, which ballooned from $1.7B in 2019 to $8.1B by last summer.

Hosts...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[HR teams have more data than ever, but many still rely on guesswork when it comes to people decisions. In this episode, we unpack the rapid growth of the people analytics tech market, which ballooned from $1.7B in 2019 to $8.1B by last summer.<br /><br />Hosts Dani Johnson, Stacia Garr, and Priyanka Mehrotra walk through how this market has evolved, what’s driving investment, and why the demand for better-connected, more useful insights keeps rising.<br /><br />We also dig into what’s not working, like customer frustration, disappointing ROI, and the reality that AI in these tools often overpromises and underdelivers. Whether you’re brand new to people analytics or looking to uplevel your HR tech strategy, this episode will help you move from “hoping for the best” to truly leading with insight. <br /><b></b><br /><b>You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /></b><ul><li>(0:00) Setting the stage: Why people analytics tech is worth revisiting.</li><li>(4:31) The market’s growth from $1.7B to $8.1B, and what’s fueling it.</li><li>(8:31) Three big shifts: use cases, democratization, and ethics.</li><li>(13:40) Pandemic-driven surge: Why execs finally cared about people data.</li><li>(14:57) What vendors are getting right: Partnerships and practical AI.</li><li>(23:25) Where vendors are falling short: UX, ROI, and unmet promises.</li><li>(29:30) The near-term future: Middleware, consolidation, and embedded insights.</li><li>(36:00) AI expectations vs. reality: Trust, risk, and what vendors still miss.</li></ul><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /></b><ul><li>Visier – <a href="https://www.visier.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.visier.com</a></li><li>Culture Amp – <a href="https://www.cultureamp.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.cultureamp.com</a></li><li>One Model – <a href="https://www.onemodel.co" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.onemodel.co</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Dani, Stacia, and Priyanka<br /></b><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dani-johnson/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dani Johnson</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/staciashermangarr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Stacia Garr</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/priyankamh/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Priyanka Mehrotra on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2578</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,danijohnson,futureofwork,hr,hrstrategy,people,peopleanalytics,peopledata,priyankamehrotra,staciagarr,work,workplace,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/459f859ad0bfab23d481b0adec06b9ba.jpg"/><itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>L&amp;D’s Identity Crisis: Why Supporting the Business Isn’t Enough Anymore, with Al Dea</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/l-d-s-identity-crisis-why-supporting-the-business-isn-t-enough-anymore-with-al-dea--65138437</link><description><![CDATA[Many L&amp;D teams still see themselves as a support function—creating learning programs, responding to training requests, and advocating for development. But in a rapidly changing business landscape, is that enough? <br /><br />In this episode, Al Dea, founder of Edge of Work, challenges the traditional identity of L&amp;D and makes the case for a more strategic role—one that positions learning as a core driver of business transformation, not just an enabler of it.<br /><br />We dive into the recurring struggle for L&amp;D to "get a seat at the table" and why that framing might be holding teams back. Instead of waiting for an invitation, L&amp;D leaders must shift their focus from delivering learning to solving real business problems.<br /><br />Al shares insights on how forward-thinking organizations are embedding learning into business strategy, leveraging skills data, and embracing new ways of working—such as agile methodologies and systems thinking—to drive real impact. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>(00:00) L&amp;D’s Identity Crisis</li><li>(05:10) Why L&amp;D struggles for influence and how to fix it</li><li>(12:40) The shift from support function to strategic problem-solver</li><li>(20:50) The role of skills data in transforming L&amp;D</li><li>(32:00) Challenges and mindset shifts needed for L&amp;D leaders</li><li>(42:41) Final thoughts and why Al Dea does this work</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.edgeofwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Edge of Work</a></li><li><a href="https://joshbersin.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Josh Bersin</a></li></ul>Connect with Al Dea<ul><li>Connected with Al Dea <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/65138437</guid><pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 07:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/65138437/ws101.mp3" length="37044483" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fsZh9ug_cLNxmV3XqXbwogjFEQ4zFYO5/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Many L&amp;amp;D teams still see themselves as a support function—creating learning programs, responding to training requests, and advocating for development. But in a rapidly changing business landscape, is that enough? 

In this episode, Al Dea, founder...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Many L&amp;D teams still see themselves as a support function—creating learning programs, responding to training requests, and advocating for development. But in a rapidly changing business landscape, is that enough? <br /><br />In this episode, Al Dea, founder of Edge of Work, challenges the traditional identity of L&amp;D and makes the case for a more strategic role—one that positions learning as a core driver of business transformation, not just an enabler of it.<br /><br />We dive into the recurring struggle for L&amp;D to "get a seat at the table" and why that framing might be holding teams back. Instead of waiting for an invitation, L&amp;D leaders must shift their focus from delivering learning to solving real business problems.<br /><br />Al shares insights on how forward-thinking organizations are embedding learning into business strategy, leveraging skills data, and embracing new ways of working—such as agile methodologies and systems thinking—to drive real impact. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>(00:00) L&amp;D’s Identity Crisis</li><li>(05:10) Why L&amp;D struggles for influence and how to fix it</li><li>(12:40) The shift from support function to strategic problem-solver</li><li>(20:50) The role of skills data in transforming L&amp;D</li><li>(32:00) Challenges and mindset shifts needed for L&amp;D leaders</li><li>(42:41) Final thoughts and why Al Dea does this work</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.edgeofwork.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Edge of Work</a></li><li><a href="https://joshbersin.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Josh Bersin</a></li></ul>Connect with Al Dea<ul><li>Connected with Al Dea <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/itsaldea/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2643</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,aldea,edgeofwork,l&amp;d,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e45b3871934eacd10630505dc0d7ed94.jpg"/><itunes:episode>101</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>AI, Learning &amp; Partnerships: How Bertelsmann is Future-Proofing Its Workforce with Steven Moran</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ai-learning-partnerships-how-bertelsmann-is-future-proofing-its-workforce-with-steven-moran--64964441</link><description><![CDATA[AI is transforming work at an unprecedented pace, but many organizations still struggle to move beyond experimentation and into real implementation. In this episode, we sit down with Steven Moran, Chief Learning Officer and Chief Partnerships Officer at Bertelsmann, to explore how one of the world’s largest media, education, and services companies is tackling this challenge head-on. <br /><br />With 400 businesses and 80,000 employees worldwide, Bertelsmann is uniquely positioned at the intersection of AI, workforce learning, and industry partnerships—making its approach to AI adoption especially insightful.<br /><br />Steven shares how Bertelsmann strategically identifies which work AI should take over and which skills employees should double down on to stay competitive. He also unpacks why AI isn’t just about efficiency—it’s about fostering creativity, innovation, and business transformation.<br /><br />From collaborating with OpenAI to rethinking job structures, Steven offers a behind-the-scenes look at how Bertelsmann is future-proofing its workforce. Whether you’re an HR leader, a learning professional, or simply curious about AI’s role in the workplace, this episode provides a roadmap for navigating the next era of work.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>(0:00) How Bertelsmann’s Chief Learning Officer also leads partnerships</li><li>(1:10) AI’s shift from experimentation to real implementation in organizations</li><li>(8:33) Bertelsmann’s strategic partnership with OpenAI and its goals</li><li>(10:32) How AI is reshaping work and what skills employees should prioritize</li><li>(16:40) The journey from AI experimentation to company-wide adoption</li><li>(22:50) Balancing AI-driven efficiency with human creativity in the workplace</li><li>(35:00) How Bertelsmann uses skill gap analysis to drive workforce strategy</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.bertelsmann.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bertelsmann</a></li><li><a href="https://openai.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">OpenAI</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Job-Moves-Making-Progress-Career/dp/0063283581" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan Bernstein &amp; Job Moves</a></li></ul>Connect with Steven Moran<ul><li>Connect <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenmoran1/?originalSubdomain=de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64964441</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64964441/ws100.mp3" length="37582639" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yZPCfXJ6dbsPVvMOXtBglUXVFnGCYNZJ/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>AI is transforming work at an unprecedented pace, but many organizations still struggle to move beyond experimentation and into real implementation. In this episode, we sit down with Steven Moran, Chief Learning Officer and Chief Partnerships Officer...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[AI is transforming work at an unprecedented pace, but many organizations still struggle to move beyond experimentation and into real implementation. In this episode, we sit down with Steven Moran, Chief Learning Officer and Chief Partnerships Officer at Bertelsmann, to explore how one of the world’s largest media, education, and services companies is tackling this challenge head-on. <br /><br />With 400 businesses and 80,000 employees worldwide, Bertelsmann is uniquely positioned at the intersection of AI, workforce learning, and industry partnerships—making its approach to AI adoption especially insightful.<br /><br />Steven shares how Bertelsmann strategically identifies which work AI should take over and which skills employees should double down on to stay competitive. He also unpacks why AI isn’t just about efficiency—it’s about fostering creativity, innovation, and business transformation.<br /><br />From collaborating with OpenAI to rethinking job structures, Steven offers a behind-the-scenes look at how Bertelsmann is future-proofing its workforce. Whether you’re an HR leader, a learning professional, or simply curious about AI’s role in the workplace, this episode provides a roadmap for navigating the next era of work.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>(0:00) How Bertelsmann’s Chief Learning Officer also leads partnerships</li><li>(1:10) AI’s shift from experimentation to real implementation in organizations</li><li>(8:33) Bertelsmann’s strategic partnership with OpenAI and its goals</li><li>(10:32) How AI is reshaping work and what skills employees should prioritize</li><li>(16:40) The journey from AI experimentation to company-wide adoption</li><li>(22:50) Balancing AI-driven efficiency with human creativity in the workplace</li><li>(35:00) How Bertelsmann uses skill gap analysis to drive workforce strategy</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.bertelsmann.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Bertelsmann</a></li><li><a href="https://openai.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">OpenAI</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Job-Moves-Making-Progress-Career/dp/0063283581" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ethan Bernstein &amp; Job Moves</a></li></ul>Connect with Steven Moran<ul><li>Connect <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevenmoran1/?originalSubdomain=de" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2685</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,redthreadresearch,stevenmoran,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/274f9531611426d5daff2bd603c278d9.jpg"/><itunes:episode>100</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Brenda Kowske: Strategic Workforce Planning in the Age of AI</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/brenda-kowske-strategic-workforce-planning-in-the-age-of-ai--64632832</link><description><![CDATA[Boston Scientific is looking at workforce planning in an entirely new way. We got the rare chance to hear all about it from Brenda Kowske, their Senior Director of Talent Analytics and Workforce Planning.<br /><br />With 50,000 employees worldwide and a rapidly growing footprint, they’re navigating big challenges with fresh approaches.We talked with Brenda about how her team is breaking down traditional HR silos, integrating workforce planning into business decisions, and staying ahead of the curve with AI and skills-based planning.<br /><br />She’s been in this space for over a decade and brings a sharp perspective on what works—and what doesn’t.From creating global talent pods to using unexpected data like happiness indexes, Brenda walked us through how Boston Scientific is balancing data, technology, and strategy to make workforce planning a true competitive advantage.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>How AI is changing jobs, skills, and how teams are truly built [1:44]</li><li>Using location and happiness data to make better workforce choices [2:29]</li><li>The challenge of moving from job-based to skill-based planning [7:00]</li><li>How to keep workforce data private while still using it smartly [21:00]</li><li>Why Boston Scientific keeps workforce planning “always on” [24:30]</li><li>How AI could make it easier to help employees grow their skills [33:20]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>GDPR –<a href="https://gdpr-info.eu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> General Data Protection Regulation Overview</a></li><li>Corporate Social Responsibility Directive (CSRD) –<a href="https://ec.europa.eu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CSRD Information (European Commission)</a></li><li>Anaplan –<a href="https://www.anaplan.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Anaplan Official Website</a></li></ul>Connect with Brenda Kowske<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendakowske/?locale=ms_MY&amp;trk=public_post-text" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brenda Kowske on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64632832</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2025 08:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64632832/ws_099.mp3" length="34156150" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qaDKj-xk9qOZpR5HsUE3-_BEgd9SBVGk/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Boston Scientific is looking at workforce planning in an entirely new way. We got the rare chance to hear all about it from Brenda Kowske, their Senior Director of Talent Analytics and Workforce Planning.

With 50,000 employees worldwide and a rapidly...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Boston Scientific is looking at workforce planning in an entirely new way. We got the rare chance to hear all about it from Brenda Kowske, their Senior Director of Talent Analytics and Workforce Planning.<br /><br />With 50,000 employees worldwide and a rapidly growing footprint, they’re navigating big challenges with fresh approaches.We talked with Brenda about how her team is breaking down traditional HR silos, integrating workforce planning into business decisions, and staying ahead of the curve with AI and skills-based planning.<br /><br />She’s been in this space for over a decade and brings a sharp perspective on what works—and what doesn’t.From creating global talent pods to using unexpected data like happiness indexes, Brenda walked us through how Boston Scientific is balancing data, technology, and strategy to make workforce planning a true competitive advantage.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>How AI is changing jobs, skills, and how teams are truly built [1:44]</li><li>Using location and happiness data to make better workforce choices [2:29]</li><li>The challenge of moving from job-based to skill-based planning [7:00]</li><li>How to keep workforce data private while still using it smartly [21:00]</li><li>Why Boston Scientific keeps workforce planning “always on” [24:30]</li><li>How AI could make it easier to help employees grow their skills [33:20]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>GDPR –<a href="https://gdpr-info.eu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> General Data Protection Regulation Overview</a></li><li>Corporate Social Responsibility Directive (CSRD) –<a href="https://ec.europa.eu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> CSRD Information (European Commission)</a></li><li>Anaplan –<a href="https://www.anaplan.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Anaplan Official Website</a></li></ul>Connect with Brenda Kowske<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendakowske/?locale=ms_MY&amp;trk=public_post-text" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brenda Kowske on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2437</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/aed49d90e66d9fab887419def3da4cf4.jpg"/><itunes:episode>99</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Navigating Trump’s DE&amp;I Executive Orders: Clarity with Heather Bussing</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/navigating-trump-s-de-i-executive-orders-clarity-with-heather-bussing--64443171</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Heather Bussing, a California employment lawyer, to break down the recent executive orders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&amp;I).<br /><br />Heather brings her sharp legal perspective, offering clarity on what these orders actually mean for businesses—especially those in the private sector—and how employers can navigate this complex landscape without overreacting.<br /><br />Heather is direct, no-nonsense, and refreshingly calm in the face of the confusion swirling around DE&amp;I today. We dive into the details of the executive orders, what they really say (and what they don’t), and what companies can do to stay on the right side of the law while building a more inclusive workplace.<br /><br />One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation is the importance of staying focused on fairness and merit. Heather stresses that while the executive orders might stir up public debates, the real work for companies is about being transparent and fair in their practices, especially around hiring, promotions, and performance assessments.<br /><br />She also talks about the growing need to rethink the way organizations measure success in their DE&amp;I efforts, focusing on meaningful change rather than just checking boxes.<br /><br />If you’re a leader or HR professional feeling the pressure to adjust your DE&amp;I strategy, this episode is for you. Heather offers clear, actionable advice that will help you move forward with confidence.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>(0:00) Introduction to Heather Bussing (and Why You Should Listen to Her)</li><li>(6:24) What Is an Executive Order?</li><li>(8:51) The DE&amp;I Executive Orders and Their Focus on Federal Contractors</li><li>(15:03) Legal Impact vs. Cultural Backlash on DE&amp;I Programs</li><li>(22:29) Why Fairness Should Still Be the Focus of DE&amp;I Efforts</li><li>(26:48) Lightening the Mood with the Lightning Round</li><li>(30:48) Why You Should Do What You’re Already Doing </li><li>(35:20) Moving Forward: Maintaining DE&amp;I Programs Amidst Change</li></ul>Connect with Heather Bussing<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-bussing-785122161/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64443171</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64443171/ws098.mp3" length="34142119" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1536xPvwefM894IyhlTRcGKKrwMqLcay3/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Heather Bussing, a California employment lawyer, to break down the recent executive orders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&amp;amp;I).

Heather brings her sharp legal perspective, offering...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories, we sit down with Heather Bussing, a California employment lawyer, to break down the recent executive orders on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DE&amp;I).<br /><br />Heather brings her sharp legal perspective, offering clarity on what these orders actually mean for businesses—especially those in the private sector—and how employers can navigate this complex landscape without overreacting.<br /><br />Heather is direct, no-nonsense, and refreshingly calm in the face of the confusion swirling around DE&amp;I today. We dive into the details of the executive orders, what they really say (and what they don’t), and what companies can do to stay on the right side of the law while building a more inclusive workplace.<br /><br />One of the biggest takeaways from this conversation is the importance of staying focused on fairness and merit. Heather stresses that while the executive orders might stir up public debates, the real work for companies is about being transparent and fair in their practices, especially around hiring, promotions, and performance assessments.<br /><br />She also talks about the growing need to rethink the way organizations measure success in their DE&amp;I efforts, focusing on meaningful change rather than just checking boxes.<br /><br />If you’re a leader or HR professional feeling the pressure to adjust your DE&amp;I strategy, this episode is for you. Heather offers clear, actionable advice that will help you move forward with confidence.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>(0:00) Introduction to Heather Bussing (and Why You Should Listen to Her)</li><li>(6:24) What Is an Executive Order?</li><li>(8:51) The DE&amp;I Executive Orders and Their Focus on Federal Contractors</li><li>(15:03) Legal Impact vs. Cultural Backlash on DE&amp;I Programs</li><li>(22:29) Why Fairness Should Still Be the Focus of DE&amp;I Efforts</li><li>(26:48) Lightening the Mood with the Lightning Round</li><li>(30:48) Why You Should Do What You’re Already Doing </li><li>(35:20) Moving Forward: Maintaining DE&amp;I Programs Amidst Change</li></ul>Connect with Heather Bussing<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-bussing-785122161/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2436</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>de&amp;i,executiveorder,heatherbussing,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5e428cf80973ff4a91d9af871807bd45.jpg"/><itunes:episode>98</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Simplifying Leadership: Coca-Cola’s Approach to Manager Effectiveness with Tapaswee Chandele</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/simplifying-leadership-coca-cola-s-approach-to-manager-effectiveness-with-tapaswee-chandele--64179969</link><description><![CDATA[We sat down with Tapaswee Chandele, Senior Vice President of Global Talent Development and System Partnerships at Coca-Cola, to talk about what it really takes to help managers succeed. <br /><br />She’s direct, transparent, and refreshingly honest about the challenges leaders face today—and what companies need to do to make things simpler. From setting clear expectations to measuring what matters, Tapaswee breaks down the way Coca-Cola supports managers without overcomplicating the process.<br /><br />One of the huge takeaways for us was the idea of prioritization: cutting through the noise and focusing on just a few key things that actually move the needle. Tapaswee also shared some thought-provoking perspectives on culture, manager accountability, and why companies need to be intentional about the kind of leaders they develop and reward.<br /><br />Oh, and we got into how AI could be a game-changer for taking boring admin work off managers’ plates so they can spend more time on what actually matters—like leading their teams.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>How Coca-Cola Defines Manager Effectiveness [4:45]</li><li>Embedding Leadership into Culture and Processes [10:10]</li><li>Why Manager Effectiveness Is Declining [15:00]</li><li>Supporting Managers with Data and Feedback [21:00]</li><li>Using AI to Simplify Managerial Work [30:10]</li><li>Rethinking Leadership Roles and Rewards [38:00]</li><li>Measuring Manager Effectiveness at Coca-Cola [43:10]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.radicalcandor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Candor by Kim Scott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.betterup.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BetterUp</a> – A coaching platform focused on leadership and professional growth</li><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/#:~:text=The%20Future%20of%20Jobs%20Report%202023%20explores%20how%20jobs%20and,the%20workplace%20of%20the%20future." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Future of Jobs Report 2023 by the World Economic Forum</a></li></ul>Connect with Tapaswee Chandele<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tapasweechandele/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tapaswee Chandele on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/64179969</guid><pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/64179969/ws097.mp3" length="39784081" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1caqO0IrbmgvK-3j2n9TKKsiDLb3mvlyf_qlXf2fkg00/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We sat down with Tapaswee Chandele, Senior Vice President of Global Talent Development and System Partnerships at Coca-Cola, to talk about what it really takes to help managers succeed. 

She’s direct, transparent, and refreshingly honest about the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We sat down with Tapaswee Chandele, Senior Vice President of Global Talent Development and System Partnerships at Coca-Cola, to talk about what it really takes to help managers succeed. <br /><br />She’s direct, transparent, and refreshingly honest about the challenges leaders face today—and what companies need to do to make things simpler. From setting clear expectations to measuring what matters, Tapaswee breaks down the way Coca-Cola supports managers without overcomplicating the process.<br /><br />One of the huge takeaways for us was the idea of prioritization: cutting through the noise and focusing on just a few key things that actually move the needle. Tapaswee also shared some thought-provoking perspectives on culture, manager accountability, and why companies need to be intentional about the kind of leaders they develop and reward.<br /><br />Oh, and we got into how AI could be a game-changer for taking boring admin work off managers’ plates so they can spend more time on what actually matters—like leading their teams.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>How Coca-Cola Defines Manager Effectiveness [4:45]</li><li>Embedding Leadership into Culture and Processes [10:10]</li><li>Why Manager Effectiveness Is Declining [15:00]</li><li>Supporting Managers with Data and Feedback [21:00]</li><li>Using AI to Simplify Managerial Work [30:10]</li><li>Rethinking Leadership Roles and Rewards [38:00]</li><li>Measuring Manager Effectiveness at Coca-Cola [43:10]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.radicalcandor.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radical Candor by Kim Scott</a></li><li><a href="https://www.betterup.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BetterUp</a> – A coaching platform focused on leadership and professional growth</li><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/#:~:text=The%20Future%20of%20Jobs%20Report%202023%20explores%20how%20jobs%20and,the%20workplace%20of%20the%20future." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Future of Jobs Report 2023 by the World Economic Forum</a></li></ul>Connect with Tapaswee Chandele<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tapasweechandele/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tapaswee Chandele on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2839</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,coca-cola,redthreadresearch,tapasweechandele,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/f8a33355b884eb4acca8bf77a7e30164.jpg"/><itunes:episode>97</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Future of HR: Stacey Harris Shares the 2025 Trends You Can’t Ignore</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-future-of-hr-stacey-harris-shares-the-2025-trends-you-can-t-ignore--63794462</link><description><![CDATA[In 2025, the HR landscape is already transforming–quickly. With AI moving from hype to reality, workforce cultures evolving, and organizations pausing to get their data and systems in order, leaders face both big opportunities and bigger decisions. <br /><br />To truly make sense of it all, we sat down with Stacey Harris, Chief Research Officer at Sapient Insights Group, whose decades of experience as both a practitioner and industry analyst give her a grounded, data-backed perspective on what HR teams need to focus on right now.<br /><br />From the rise of personalization and the cultural barriers blocking internal mobility to the critical role of managers and why workforce planning is finally having its moment, Stacey gave us a clear-eyed view of where HR is heading—and what’s holding it back.<br /><br />She challenged us to think differently about what “engagement” truly means, the limitations of current AI applications, and why a company’s culture—not its tech—might be the biggest obstacle to success in 2025.<br /><br />If you’re ready to make sense of this rapidly changing landscape and get practical advice on how to navigate the year ahead, Stacey’s insights are the perfect guide.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>Meeting Stacey Harris [4:26]</li><li>2025 Trends in HR Tech [7:08]</li><li>AI in HR: Hype vs. Reality [9:06]</li><li>The Data Problem and Internal Mobility Challenges [12:47]</li><li>Managers as Barriers and the Role of AI [18:00]</li><li>Rethinking Engagement and Personalization [23:54]</li><li>Workforce Planning’s Evolution [38:20]</li><li>Final Thoughts and Why Stacey Does the Work She Does [42:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Sapient Insights Group –<a href="https://www.sapientinsights.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Sapient Insights Group Website</a></li><li><a href="https://sapientinsights.com/product/26th-annual-hr-systems-survey-white-paper-report/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sierra-Cedar HR Systems Survey</a> </li><li><a href="https://lightcast.io" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lightcast</a></li></ul>Connect with Stacey Harris<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceyharris/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63794462</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63794462/ws096.mp3" length="37297891" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U_l_IaO0FoNqpkVO3hszFPaQu6YbcrcD/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In 2025, the HR landscape is already transforming–quickly. With AI moving from hype to reality, workforce cultures evolving, and organizations pausing to get their data and systems in order, leaders face both big opportunities and bigger decisions. ...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In 2025, the HR landscape is already transforming–quickly. With AI moving from hype to reality, workforce cultures evolving, and organizations pausing to get their data and systems in order, leaders face both big opportunities and bigger decisions. <br /><br />To truly make sense of it all, we sat down with Stacey Harris, Chief Research Officer at Sapient Insights Group, whose decades of experience as both a practitioner and industry analyst give her a grounded, data-backed perspective on what HR teams need to focus on right now.<br /><br />From the rise of personalization and the cultural barriers blocking internal mobility to the critical role of managers and why workforce planning is finally having its moment, Stacey gave us a clear-eyed view of where HR is heading—and what’s holding it back.<br /><br />She challenged us to think differently about what “engagement” truly means, the limitations of current AI applications, and why a company’s culture—not its tech—might be the biggest obstacle to success in 2025.<br /><br />If you’re ready to make sense of this rapidly changing landscape and get practical advice on how to navigate the year ahead, Stacey’s insights are the perfect guide.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Intro [0:00]</li><li>Meeting Stacey Harris [4:26]</li><li>2025 Trends in HR Tech [7:08]</li><li>AI in HR: Hype vs. Reality [9:06]</li><li>The Data Problem and Internal Mobility Challenges [12:47]</li><li>Managers as Barriers and the Role of AI [18:00]</li><li>Rethinking Engagement and Personalization [23:54]</li><li>Workforce Planning’s Evolution [38:20]</li><li>Final Thoughts and Why Stacey Does the Work She Does [42:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Sapient Insights Group –<a href="https://www.sapientinsights.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Sapient Insights Group Website</a></li><li><a href="https://sapientinsights.com/product/26th-annual-hr-systems-survey-white-paper-report/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sierra-Cedar HR Systems Survey</a> </li><li><a href="https://lightcast.io" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Lightcast</a></li></ul>Connect with Stacey Harris<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/staceyharris/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2661</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/0588575399d630946ad1a1e9c335f6e3.jpg"/><itunes:episode>96</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>L&amp;D Tech: What’s In and Out through an Investor’s Lens</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/l-d-tech-what-s-in-and-out-through-an-investor-s-lens--63604954</link><description><![CDATA[Most organizations waste money on L&amp;D technology because they don’t think like investors. We sat down with Kimberly Williams, CEO of Absorb Software, to talk about her unique perspective on learning and development technology. As someone with a private equity background, Kimberly offers a fresh take on how investment thinking can shape smarter decisions in the L&amp;D space.Our conversation covered everything from AI’s role in upskilling to trends driving workforce productivity. Kimberly shared practical advice for leaders making tech investments and gave us a behind-the-scenes look at how organizations can align learning tools with real business outcomes.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How Kimberly’s Background Ties L&amp;D to Investments [2:41]</li><li>Major Trends Shaping People Tech [3:54]</li><li>AI’s Role in Upskilling and L&amp;D Tech [6:07]</li><li>AI Integrating Learning Into Work [8:30]</li><li>If L&amp;D Is Becoming More Strategic [10:20]</li><li>Corporate L&amp;D as a Consultative Role [13:10]</li><li>Creating Measurable Value in L&amp;D [15:20]</li><li>Exciting Investments in People Tech [28:00]</li><li>Evaluating Vendors’ Stability and Growth [34:40]</li><li>Lessons From Mistakes Were Made [42:52]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.absorblms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Absorb Software</a></li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2023/09/reskilling-in-the-age-of-ai" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvard Business Review – Article that touches on the “half-life of skills”</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mistakes-Were-Made-but-Third/dp/0358329612/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BwCl5FfBoPhpaMRF2wq0gZCcaS3zhY8MJgwqZ-P1r7NV0JBCKn6gn1umpP2F6lMm_EC_VmzRRxGmCHcW8MgMGZMpiYbkEjmYJXFntuSDA5wYSWQGhuhSt4jY8SpHaj3kHRp02htEaqhgJ39Rgb0JtZUr857WmXhaXpmCu4cHvi-fHR3uV3wmyYMXrJgWWf0vLYR5DDXCBlHr4Zp_3T6S_iUr9g4ZpOdTKPtu-Ihals4.0YDc-x7-QcQj16RkSKy0MwWGYW-2JYhgF-AOFOHkXiQ&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;hvadid=598656662287&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9030041&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=4278954735611644895&amp;hvtargid=kwd-2909168512&amp;hydadcr=15553_13558561&amp;keywords=mistakes+were+made+but+not+by+me&amp;qid=1736270027&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me)</a>" by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson</li><li><a href="https://coachk.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coach Mike Krzyzewski (Coach K)</a></li></ul>Connect with Kimberly Williams <br /><ul><li>Find Kimberly Williams <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlydolanwilliams" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63604954</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63604954/ws095.mp3" length="39409072" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/17N_MlLUiJHFMM5JuUmpptdM1OpEw265ebW5mQG_rx2s/edit?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Most organizations waste money on L&amp;amp;D technology because they don’t think like investors. We sat down with Kimberly Williams, CEO of Absorb Software, to talk about her unique perspective on learning and development technology. As someone with a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Most organizations waste money on L&amp;D technology because they don’t think like investors. We sat down with Kimberly Williams, CEO of Absorb Software, to talk about her unique perspective on learning and development technology. As someone with a private equity background, Kimberly offers a fresh take on how investment thinking can shape smarter decisions in the L&amp;D space.Our conversation covered everything from AI’s role in upskilling to trends driving workforce productivity. Kimberly shared practical advice for leaders making tech investments and gave us a behind-the-scenes look at how organizations can align learning tools with real business outcomes.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How Kimberly’s Background Ties L&amp;D to Investments [2:41]</li><li>Major Trends Shaping People Tech [3:54]</li><li>AI’s Role in Upskilling and L&amp;D Tech [6:07]</li><li>AI Integrating Learning Into Work [8:30]</li><li>If L&amp;D Is Becoming More Strategic [10:20]</li><li>Corporate L&amp;D as a Consultative Role [13:10]</li><li>Creating Measurable Value in L&amp;D [15:20]</li><li>Exciting Investments in People Tech [28:00]</li><li>Evaluating Vendors’ Stability and Growth [34:40]</li><li>Lessons From Mistakes Were Made [42:52]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.absorblms.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Absorb Software</a></li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2023/09/reskilling-in-the-age-of-ai" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvard Business Review – Article that touches on the “half-life of skills”</a>.</li><li>"<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Mistakes-Were-Made-but-Third/dp/0358329612/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BwCl5FfBoPhpaMRF2wq0gZCcaS3zhY8MJgwqZ-P1r7NV0JBCKn6gn1umpP2F6lMm_EC_VmzRRxGmCHcW8MgMGZMpiYbkEjmYJXFntuSDA5wYSWQGhuhSt4jY8SpHaj3kHRp02htEaqhgJ39Rgb0JtZUr857WmXhaXpmCu4cHvi-fHR3uV3wmyYMXrJgWWf0vLYR5DDXCBlHr4Zp_3T6S_iUr9g4ZpOdTKPtu-Ihals4.0YDc-x7-QcQj16RkSKy0MwWGYW-2JYhgF-AOFOHkXiQ&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;hvadid=598656662287&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvlocphy=9030041&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvqmt=e&amp;hvrand=4278954735611644895&amp;hvtargid=kwd-2909168512&amp;hydadcr=15553_13558561&amp;keywords=mistakes+were+made+but+not+by+me&amp;qid=1736270027&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mistakes Were Made (But Not by Me)</a>" by Carol Tavris and Elliot Aronson</li><li><a href="https://coachk.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Coach Mike Krzyzewski (Coach K)</a></li></ul>Connect with Kimberly Williams <br /><ul><li>Find Kimberly Williams <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlydolanwilliams" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2812</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>absorbsoftware,ai,kimberlywilliams,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/d1b27e088f2d9268f4a1e3871f23890b.jpg"/><itunes:episode>95</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Art of Finding and Growing Niche Skills with Cari Bohley</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-art-of-finding-and-growing-niche-skills-with-cari-bohley--63476773</link><description><![CDATA[Cari Bohley, Vice President of Talent Management at Peraton, talks about solving real workplace problems by focusing on skills. From finding highly specialized talent in competitive markets to helping employees see clear career paths, Cari explains how tools like AI are changing the game. She shares what it takes to turn skills into a practical solution for hiring, retention, and engagement—especially in an industry where the stakes are high. Her story offers actionable insights for tackling challenges in hiring and L&amp;D while proving the value of these efforts to leadership. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Cari’s role at Peraton and its mission-critical focus [0:00]</li><li>Metrics that make leadership care about skills [1:20]</li><li>How timing impacts a business case [2:00]</li><li>Using AI to hire in niche markets [7:07]</li><li>Boosting retention with clear career paths [13:10]</li><li>Skills as the foundation for hiring and growth [16:10]</li><li>Tailoring a business case for leadership buy-in [32:30]</li><li>What success looks like with skills tools [35:00]</li><li>Lessons from implementing too quickly [39:06]</li><li>Why Cari enjoys the “fun” side of HR [40:20]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.peraton.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Peraton</a></li><li><a href="https://www.seekout.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SeekOut</a></li><li><a href="https://www.constellationr.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Constellation Research Supernova Awards</a></li></ul>Connect with Cari Bohley<ul><li>Cari Bohley <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cari-bohley-6830167/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63476773</guid><pubDate>Fri, 27 Dec 2024 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63476773/ws.mp3" length="35454262" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cjCNgbIa9q0cq5KOjvXjnNdayLbiS3wo/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Cari Bohley, Vice President of Talent Management at Peraton, talks about solving real workplace problems by focusing on skills. From finding highly specialized talent in competitive markets to helping employees see clear career paths, Cari explains...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Cari Bohley, Vice President of Talent Management at Peraton, talks about solving real workplace problems by focusing on skills. From finding highly specialized talent in competitive markets to helping employees see clear career paths, Cari explains how tools like AI are changing the game. She shares what it takes to turn skills into a practical solution for hiring, retention, and engagement—especially in an industry where the stakes are high. Her story offers actionable insights for tackling challenges in hiring and L&amp;D while proving the value of these efforts to leadership. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Cari’s role at Peraton and its mission-critical focus [0:00]</li><li>Metrics that make leadership care about skills [1:20]</li><li>How timing impacts a business case [2:00]</li><li>Using AI to hire in niche markets [7:07]</li><li>Boosting retention with clear career paths [13:10]</li><li>Skills as the foundation for hiring and growth [16:10]</li><li>Tailoring a business case for leadership buy-in [32:30]</li><li>What success looks like with skills tools [35:00]</li><li>Lessons from implementing too quickly [39:06]</li><li>Why Cari enjoys the “fun” side of HR [40:20]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.peraton.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Peraton</a></li><li><a href="https://www.seekout.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">SeekOut</a></li><li><a href="https://www.constellationr.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Constellation Research Supernova Awards</a></li></ul>Connect with Cari Bohley<ul><li>Cari Bohley <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/cari-bohley-6830167/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2530</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/831c9057fa5d72d37f344862c5dd9041.jpg"/><itunes:episode>94</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Existential Crisis of L&amp;D with Albertsons’ Michelle Kay</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-existential-crisis-of-l-d-with-albertsons-michelle-kay--63394945</link><description><![CDATA[What happens to an organization when learning and development disappears? It’s a question more leaders are facing as L&amp;D teams shrink or are deprioritized, even as the demand for a skilled workforce grows. <br /><br />Michelle Kay, Head of Learning and Development at Albertsons, has a clear answer: the unique expertise of L&amp;D is irreplaceable. Managing learning for over 355,000 associates across one of the nation’s largest grocery chains, Michelle demonstrates how L&amp;D can be a driving force behind business success, even in the face of change and uncertainty.<br /><br />Michelle’s perspective blends optimism and realism as she tackles pressing challenges like AI integration, burnout, and evolving workforce expectations. She explores how L&amp;D functions as a critical link between talent development and business needs, offering tools for long-term growth and innovation.<br /><br />Through her candid insights and stories, she shows how learning teams can remain relevant, impactful, and future-focused—despite the shifting dynamics of the workplace.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>How L&amp;D can remain relevant in shrinking organizations [2:10]</li><li>How generative AI might reduce burnout and simplify work [12:00]</li><li>Balancing alignment and innovation in L&amp;D leadership [17:22]</li><li>Why curiosity is key for navigating rapid change [21:00]</li><li>The unique skills L&amp;D professionals bring to the table [25:55]</li><li>How to approach AI experimentation in a low-risk way [30:10]</li><li>What happens when L&amp;D teams partner with AI for growth [33:30]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Generative AI tools (e.g., ChatGPT, AI voice generators):<br /><a href="https://openai.com/chatgpt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Explore ChatGPT</a> |<a href="https://elevenlabs.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> AI Voice Generators like ElevenLabs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Tipping-Point-Overstories-Superspreaders/dp/B0D5RFG8KQ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OFQ_9KEjK-9d_D7VAmsbY9YkcZAVQKmmHFyjy-Zan2bJs7c1rfnPVHA1QuHx12GPjnI9xt_bO5Zfxug_ju_wBhKYYnMt2Pbjg-DnsnZ8DYgzJYsf6fh56KMOUED9JDkdOfePgX92Qo5oHrkkfZfyiZzkrjRRyFhQagjLhW7vFxt9UJybzHZvZ1SqSn6hhR3ucWwe2ZIucMeXB8-oQBdV-8VAjisCjVrz11oZhYofW9U.ElEljQeBrkTqjwYMFDpLlsUQoNdPA9JyNyafSi-NOHE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=revenge+of+the+tipping+point&amp;qid=1734496273&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Malcolm Gladwell’s Revenge of the Tipping Point audiobook</a></li></ul>Connect with Michelle Kay<ul><li>Michelle Kay <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/clomichellekay/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63394945</guid><pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63394945/ws093.mp3" length="34663218" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HZXwv_np3q9yGGTbQfBF3neLwerEs2KE/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens to an organization when learning and development disappears? It’s a question more leaders are facing as L&amp;amp;D teams shrink or are deprioritized, even as the demand for a skilled workforce grows. 

Michelle Kay, Head of Learning and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens to an organization when learning and development disappears? It’s a question more leaders are facing as L&amp;D teams shrink or are deprioritized, even as the demand for a skilled workforce grows. <br /><br />Michelle Kay, Head of Learning and Development at Albertsons, has a clear answer: the unique expertise of L&amp;D is irreplaceable. Managing learning for over 355,000 associates across one of the nation’s largest grocery chains, Michelle demonstrates how L&amp;D can be a driving force behind business success, even in the face of change and uncertainty.<br /><br />Michelle’s perspective blends optimism and realism as she tackles pressing challenges like AI integration, burnout, and evolving workforce expectations. She explores how L&amp;D functions as a critical link between talent development and business needs, offering tools for long-term growth and innovation.<br /><br />Through her candid insights and stories, she shows how learning teams can remain relevant, impactful, and future-focused—despite the shifting dynamics of the workplace.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>How L&amp;D can remain relevant in shrinking organizations [2:10]</li><li>How generative AI might reduce burnout and simplify work [12:00]</li><li>Balancing alignment and innovation in L&amp;D leadership [17:22]</li><li>Why curiosity is key for navigating rapid change [21:00]</li><li>The unique skills L&amp;D professionals bring to the table [25:55]</li><li>How to approach AI experimentation in a low-risk way [30:10]</li><li>What happens when L&amp;D teams partner with AI for growth [33:30]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Generative AI tools (e.g., ChatGPT, AI voice generators):<br /><a href="https://openai.com/chatgpt" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Explore ChatGPT</a> |<a href="https://elevenlabs.io/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> AI Voice Generators like ElevenLabs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Revenge-Tipping-Point-Overstories-Superspreaders/dp/B0D5RFG8KQ/ref=sr_1_1?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.OFQ_9KEjK-9d_D7VAmsbY9YkcZAVQKmmHFyjy-Zan2bJs7c1rfnPVHA1QuHx12GPjnI9xt_bO5Zfxug_ju_wBhKYYnMt2Pbjg-DnsnZ8DYgzJYsf6fh56KMOUED9JDkdOfePgX92Qo5oHrkkfZfyiZzkrjRRyFhQagjLhW7vFxt9UJybzHZvZ1SqSn6hhR3ucWwe2ZIucMeXB8-oQBdV-8VAjisCjVrz11oZhYofW9U.ElEljQeBrkTqjwYMFDpLlsUQoNdPA9JyNyafSi-NOHE&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;keywords=revenge+of+the+tipping+point&amp;qid=1734496273&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Malcolm Gladwell’s Revenge of the Tipping Point audiobook</a></li></ul>Connect with Michelle Kay<ul><li>Michelle Kay <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/clomichellekay/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2473</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,albertsons,l&amp;d,michellekay,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7ed6d5f7b3489ba91537473d4ed190ff.jpg"/><itunes:episode>93</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>AI And Data Governance with Nick Hudgell</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/ai-and-data-governance-with-nick-hudgell--63344653</link><description><![CDATA[We had an incredible conversation with Nick Hudgell, Global Head of People Insights at Sanofi, about the transformative power of data governance and AI in HR. Nick shared how his team has built an infrastructure that connects disparate systems, improves data quality, and uses machine learning to unlock insights that genuinely improve employee experiences. <br /><br />From rethinking engagement surveys to launching AI-powered tools like the Sanofi Concierge, Nick made the case for why data is the backbone of innovation in people management.Nick also shared thought-provoking stories about breaking down resistance to change, balancing data privacy with innovation, and navigating the challenges of working in complex, multinational environments.<br /><br />We learned how his team collaborates across functions to streamline data, standardize definitions, and ensure technology is implemented in ways that actually work for employees. The practical examples he provided, from engagement programs to job architecture improvements, highlight the tangible results of getting the data right.<br /><br />We couldn’t have been more energized by Nick’s passion for making data governance approachable and impactful.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Why data governance is crucial for successful AI [1:10]</li><li>Using the house metaphor to explain strong data foundations [2:36]</li><li>Nick’s path from psychology student to HR leader [6:00]</li><li>How Sanofi integrates data governance with HR tech [10:24]</li><li>Steps to build an effective data governance framework [14:40]</li><li>Handling siloed HR tech and aligning it with company goals [18:20]</li><li>Measuring employee engagement program success with data [25:10]</li><li>What data-as-a-service means for HR's future [31:00]</li><li>Sanofi’s use of AI to analyze and act on employee feedback [47:00]</li><li>Why data governance is key to AI and growth [54:20]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.sanofi.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sanofi Concierge</a> – AI-powered internal assistant tool supporting employees with personalized guidance.</li></ul>Connect with Nick Hudgell<ul><li>Nick Hudgell <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-hudgell-32046912/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63344653</guid><pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63344653/ws_nick.mp3" length="46527149" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mStxDomptrdC9xPDWXl3vn-t6HUKExjx/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had an incredible conversation with Nick Hudgell, Global Head of People Insights at Sanofi, about the transformative power of data governance and AI in HR. Nick shared how his team has built an infrastructure that connects disparate systems,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had an incredible conversation with Nick Hudgell, Global Head of People Insights at Sanofi, about the transformative power of data governance and AI in HR. Nick shared how his team has built an infrastructure that connects disparate systems, improves data quality, and uses machine learning to unlock insights that genuinely improve employee experiences. <br /><br />From rethinking engagement surveys to launching AI-powered tools like the Sanofi Concierge, Nick made the case for why data is the backbone of innovation in people management.Nick also shared thought-provoking stories about breaking down resistance to change, balancing data privacy with innovation, and navigating the challenges of working in complex, multinational environments.<br /><br />We learned how his team collaborates across functions to streamline data, standardize definitions, and ensure technology is implemented in ways that actually work for employees. The practical examples he provided, from engagement programs to job architecture improvements, highlight the tangible results of getting the data right.<br /><br />We couldn’t have been more energized by Nick’s passion for making data governance approachable and impactful.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Why data governance is crucial for successful AI [1:10]</li><li>Using the house metaphor to explain strong data foundations [2:36]</li><li>Nick’s path from psychology student to HR leader [6:00]</li><li>How Sanofi integrates data governance with HR tech [10:24]</li><li>Steps to build an effective data governance framework [14:40]</li><li>Handling siloed HR tech and aligning it with company goals [18:20]</li><li>Measuring employee engagement program success with data [25:10]</li><li>What data-as-a-service means for HR's future [31:00]</li><li>Sanofi’s use of AI to analyze and act on employee feedback [47:00]</li><li>Why data governance is key to AI and growth [54:20]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.sanofi.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sanofi Concierge</a> – AI-powered internal assistant tool supporting employees with personalized guidance.</li></ul>Connect with Nick Hudgell<ul><li>Nick Hudgell <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-hudgell-32046912/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3321</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>nickhudgell,redthreadresearch,sanofi,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/8dcc9ec5313e9c249a94e83f08bb626f.jpg"/><itunes:episode>92</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>From Efficiency to Impact: Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė on AI in L&amp;D</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/from-efficiency-to-impact-don-taylor-and-egle-vinauskaite-on-ai-in-l-d--63129070</link><description><![CDATA[We had an incredible conversation with Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė about their report, <a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus03-intention-and-reality/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: Intention and Reality</a>. Their research goes deep into how AI is reshaping learning and development, from streamlining tasks like content creation to enabling strategic integration across organizations. <br /><br />Don and Eglė talked about the fact that AI’s potential goes far beyond efficiency—it’s about solving meaningful business challenges and driving innovation through smarter decision-making.<br /><br />A standout idea was their “immaturity model,” which challenges the notion of linear AI adoption. They explained that success relies on factors like leadership mindset, organizational readiness, and strong cross-functional relationships, rather than following a predictable path.<br /><br />Their advice to start with clear business problems was especially impactful, offering a practical way to cut through AI hype and focus on real value. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone navigating AI in L&amp;D.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>The critical need for L&amp;D to look beyond silos [0:45]</li><li>What the "immaturity model" says about AI adoption [1:10]</li><li>How Don and Eglė’s perspectives shape AI in L&amp;D [3:40]</li><li>Why organizations are stuck in AI’s efficiency phase [7:39]</li><li>How historical mindsets limit L&amp;D’s potential with AI [13:20]</li><li>Why AI adoption isn’t a linear progression [16:26]</li><li>The real barriers to embracing AI in L&amp;D [27:10]</li><li>Starting with the right problem: Key to AI success [35:00]</li><li>Balancing experimentation with efficiency in AI adoption [44:47]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus03-intention-and-reality/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: Intention and Reality</a> by Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstefanski" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heather Stefanski, CLO of McKinsey</a></li><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus02-talk-to-action/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: From Talk to Action</a> (Previous report)</li></ul>Connect with Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė<ul><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Donald H. Taylor’s website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinauskaite/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eglė Vinauskaitė’s LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/63129070</guid><pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 06:00:07 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/63129070/ws091.mp3" length="43642647" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gad_CdByzg6qFr4f1-H0VHK_XhZ3yPqq/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We had an incredible conversation with Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė about their report, https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus03-intention-and-reality/. Their research goes deep into how AI is reshaping learning and development, from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We had an incredible conversation with Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė about their report, <a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus03-intention-and-reality/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: Intention and Reality</a>. Their research goes deep into how AI is reshaping learning and development, from streamlining tasks like content creation to enabling strategic integration across organizations. <br /><br />Don and Eglė talked about the fact that AI’s potential goes far beyond efficiency—it’s about solving meaningful business challenges and driving innovation through smarter decision-making.<br /><br />A standout idea was their “immaturity model,” which challenges the notion of linear AI adoption. They explained that success relies on factors like leadership mindset, organizational readiness, and strong cross-functional relationships, rather than following a predictable path.<br /><br />Their advice to start with clear business problems was especially impactful, offering a practical way to cut through AI hype and focus on real value. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone navigating AI in L&amp;D.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>The critical need for L&amp;D to look beyond silos [0:45]</li><li>What the "immaturity model" says about AI adoption [1:10]</li><li>How Don and Eglė’s perspectives shape AI in L&amp;D [3:40]</li><li>Why organizations are stuck in AI’s efficiency phase [7:39]</li><li>How historical mindsets limit L&amp;D’s potential with AI [13:20]</li><li>Why AI adoption isn’t a linear progression [16:26]</li><li>The real barriers to embracing AI in L&amp;D [27:10]</li><li>Starting with the right problem: Key to AI success [35:00]</li><li>Balancing experimentation with efficiency in AI adoption [44:47]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus03-intention-and-reality/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: Intention and Reality</a> by Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė</li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/heatherstefanski" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Heather Stefanski, CLO of McKinsey</a></li><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/research_base/focus02-talk-to-action/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AI and L&amp;D: From Talk to Action</a> (Previous report)</li></ul>Connect with Don Taylor and Eglė Vinauskaitė<ul><li><a href="https://donaldhtaylor.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Donald H. Taylor’s website</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vinauskaite/?originalSubdomain=uk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Eglė Vinauskaitė’s LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3115</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,donaldtaylor,eglėvinauskaitė,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e2c6fdc36d296683153d1e665105a8e0.jpg"/><itunes:episode>89</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Biggest Mistakes Companies are Making with AI with Christopher Lind</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-biggest-mistakes-companies-are-making-with-ai-with-christopher-lind--62817142</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when AI moves faster than the people who implement it? <br /><br />Christopher Lind, executive advisor and industry expert, shares stories of organizations that got it wrong—sometimes with devastating consequences.<br /><br />From replacing entire teams with AI to accelerating broken processes, the conversation reveals how quickly things can unravel when technology outpaces understanding. At the same time, there’s tremendous opportunity if AI is handled with care.<br /><br />We explored what it takes to keep humans at the center of the work while letting AI handle repetitive tasks. This isn’t about avoiding AI—it’s about understanding how to use it in a way that aligns with our goals, values, and the irreplaceable need for human relationships.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Why AI experts are often the most skeptical [0:56]</li><li>How generative AI can quickly magnify problems [1:30]</li><li>Whether AI should serve us or the other way around [2:00]</li><li>Why measuring AI’s true cost is so tricky [3:20]</li><li>How you might unknowingly rely on AI daily [8:42]</li><li>Preparing for the changes AI will bring to jobs [15:00]</li><li>What happens when automation goes wrong [35:17]</li><li>How one company’s overuse of AI caused failure [39:10]</li><li>Whether AI’s logic is misunderstood or alien [44:00]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Podcast:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN4OXUu24xZ5Nn9-xeiZc8I-_PNyyIFpM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Future Focused with Christopher Lind</a></li><li><a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/shell-game" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radiolab’s "Shell Game" Episode</a></li></ul>Connect with Christopher Lind<br /><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherlind/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christopher Lind</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62817142</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2024 06:00:08 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62817142/ws90.mp3" length="40852231" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HlKEj9pnFNHU9lgMcITrZ_DaZqjNs_Tp/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when AI moves faster than the people who implement it? 

Christopher Lind, executive advisor and industry expert, shares stories of organizations that got it wrong—sometimes with devastating consequences.

From replacing entire teams with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when AI moves faster than the people who implement it? <br /><br />Christopher Lind, executive advisor and industry expert, shares stories of organizations that got it wrong—sometimes with devastating consequences.<br /><br />From replacing entire teams with AI to accelerating broken processes, the conversation reveals how quickly things can unravel when technology outpaces understanding. At the same time, there’s tremendous opportunity if AI is handled with care.<br /><br />We explored what it takes to keep humans at the center of the work while letting AI handle repetitive tasks. This isn’t about avoiding AI—it’s about understanding how to use it in a way that aligns with our goals, values, and the irreplaceable need for human relationships.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Why AI experts are often the most skeptical [0:56]</li><li>How generative AI can quickly magnify problems [1:30]</li><li>Whether AI should serve us or the other way around [2:00]</li><li>Why measuring AI’s true cost is so tricky [3:20]</li><li>How you might unknowingly rely on AI daily [8:42]</li><li>Preparing for the changes AI will bring to jobs [15:00]</li><li>What happens when automation goes wrong [35:17]</li><li>How one company’s overuse of AI caused failure [39:10]</li><li>Whether AI’s logic is misunderstood or alien [44:00]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Podcast:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN4OXUu24xZ5Nn9-xeiZc8I-_PNyyIFpM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> Future Focused with Christopher Lind</a></li><li><a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/shell-game" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Radiolab’s "Shell Game" Episode</a></li></ul>Connect with Christopher Lind<br /><ul><li>LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopherlind/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Christopher Lind</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2915</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,christopherlind,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e5f7ac7553f10980b9f0d30c886d141e.jpg"/><itunes:episode>90</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>People Analytics &amp; AI’s Real-World Impact at FedEx with Cole Napper</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/people-analytics-ai-s-real-world-impact-at-fedex-with-cole-napper--62613566</link><description><![CDATA[Cole Napper, FedEx’s Global Head of People Analytics, joined us to explore the real versus ideal roles of AI in HR and people analytics, focusing on practical application and real-world impact. Cole highlighted AI’s current limitations, especially the problem of “anti-productive work,” where technology demands extra effort rather than reducing it. His perspective emphasizes the need for critical thinking in analytics to ensure AI truly serves organizational goals.<br /><br />Cole also talked about the structural improvements required to enhance data quality and discussed how people analytics teams need to evolve for AI to make a meaningful difference. His pragmatic vision challenges the hype surrounding AI and reframes it as a tool to support strategic decision-making rather than an all-encompassing solution.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Introducing our conversation with Cole Napper of FedEx [00:22] </li><li>Why AI should focus on productive work [02:10] </li><li>How specialized agents could reshape HR technology and analytics workflows [03:10] </li><li>Whether we are expecting too much from AI too soon in people analytics [07:00] </li><li>The disconnect between vendors’ AI promises and actual user experience [08:20] </li><li>Whether AI is driving value within organizations or merely adding costs [14:00] </li><li>Why critical thinking is a core skill for leveraging AI in people analytics [17:10] </li><li>The "Inquisitor and Change Agent" model and how it improves analytics impact [21:10] </li><li>How AI can evolve from repetitive data tasks to strategic roles [22:00] </li><li>Whether modular tools and specialized AI agents could be the future [41:30] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.onemodel.co/events/directionally-correct" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Directionally Correct podcast by Cole Napper and Scott Hines</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Alchemist-10th-Anniversary-Paulo-Coelho/dp/0061122416" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">"The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nvidia</a></li></ul>Connect with Cole Napper<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/colenapper" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole Napper on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62613566</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2024 06:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62613566/ws089.mp3" length="41695202" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qJczSswfLMPejaP-YEMWnOTvZ9ZQ9YZb/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Cole Napper, FedEx’s Global Head of People Analytics, joined us to explore the real versus ideal roles of AI in HR and people analytics, focusing on practical application and real-world impact. Cole highlighted AI’s current limitations, especially the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Cole Napper, FedEx’s Global Head of People Analytics, joined us to explore the real versus ideal roles of AI in HR and people analytics, focusing on practical application and real-world impact. Cole highlighted AI’s current limitations, especially the problem of “anti-productive work,” where technology demands extra effort rather than reducing it. His perspective emphasizes the need for critical thinking in analytics to ensure AI truly serves organizational goals.<br /><br />Cole also talked about the structural improvements required to enhance data quality and discussed how people analytics teams need to evolve for AI to make a meaningful difference. His pragmatic vision challenges the hype surrounding AI and reframes it as a tool to support strategic decision-making rather than an all-encompassing solution.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Introducing our conversation with Cole Napper of FedEx [00:22] </li><li>Why AI should focus on productive work [02:10] </li><li>How specialized agents could reshape HR technology and analytics workflows [03:10] </li><li>Whether we are expecting too much from AI too soon in people analytics [07:00] </li><li>The disconnect between vendors’ AI promises and actual user experience [08:20] </li><li>Whether AI is driving value within organizations or merely adding costs [14:00] </li><li>Why critical thinking is a core skill for leveraging AI in people analytics [17:10] </li><li>The "Inquisitor and Change Agent" model and how it improves analytics impact [21:10] </li><li>How AI can evolve from repetitive data tasks to strategic roles [22:00] </li><li>Whether modular tools and specialized AI agents could be the future [41:30] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.onemodel.co/events/directionally-correct" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Directionally Correct podcast by Cole Napper and Scott Hines</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.ca/Alchemist-10th-Anniversary-Paulo-Coelho/dp/0061122416" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">"The Alchemist" by Paulo Coelho</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nvidia</a></li></ul>Connect with Cole Napper<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/colenapper" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Cole Napper on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2976</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,colenapper,fedex,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/483678f1a84373b36ad5ab704ddc6e6f.jpg"/><itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Social Network Perspective Matters with Greg Pryor</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-social-network-perspective-matters-with-greg-pryor--62440242</link><description><![CDATA[Could your network be the key to your career success and organizational growth? In this episode of Workplace Stories, we chat with Greg Pryor, author of the upcoming book, “The Social Capital Imperative.” <br /><br />Greg explains how social capital—our connections and relationships—drives business outcomes, sparks innovation, and boosts career growth. With the pandemic reshaping work, he argues that shifting from internal networks to open, cross-functional ones is crucial for success today.Greg shares practical strategies for making network-building accessible to individuals, teams, and organizations.<br /><br />He highlights how AI and technology can help unlock the potential of networks, focusing on measurable outcomes. His passion for helping organizations harness the power of social networks makes a strong case for why networks matter in the modern workplace.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How focusing on people and networks—not just technology—drives workplace results [1:00]</li><li>Nine key use cases for network analysis, ranging from career growth to cultural change [2:40]</li><li>How Post Malone’s collaborations illustrate the power of networks in boosting success [9:00]</li><li>How “energizing influencers” like Dolly Parton can spark organizational transformation [14:00]</li><li>How the pandemic shifted networks from open to closed, impacting innovation [29:00]</li><li>Building networks for career growth, even without organizational support [39:20]</li><li>How AI can make network analysis more accessible and actionable [44:18]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greg-pryor-907920_i-hope-you-can-join-us-tomorrow-for-this-activity-7237120762388615169-UL83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Social Capital Imperative</a></li><li><a href="https://orgmapper.com/membership-material/ona-summit-2020-greg-pryor-how-ona-insights-accelerated-role-transitions/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Organizational Network Analysis (ONA)</a></li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2023/02/what-is-psychological-safety" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amy Edmondson’s work on Psychological Safety</a></li><li><a href="https://www.robcross.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Cross</a> - network analysis expert</li><li><a href="https://drjohnboudreau.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Boudreau</a></li></ul>Connect with Greg Pryor<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-pryor-907920/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greg Pryor on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62440242</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2024 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62440242/ws088.mp3" length="39774816" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dr3_YkBiTt0ovdn942w6cAiPhrxqhRyf/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Could your network be the key to your career success and organizational growth? In this episode of Workplace Stories, we chat with Greg Pryor, author of the upcoming book, “The Social Capital Imperative.” 

Greg explains how social capital—our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Could your network be the key to your career success and organizational growth? In this episode of Workplace Stories, we chat with Greg Pryor, author of the upcoming book, “The Social Capital Imperative.” <br /><br />Greg explains how social capital—our connections and relationships—drives business outcomes, sparks innovation, and boosts career growth. With the pandemic reshaping work, he argues that shifting from internal networks to open, cross-functional ones is crucial for success today.Greg shares practical strategies for making network-building accessible to individuals, teams, and organizations.<br /><br />He highlights how AI and technology can help unlock the potential of networks, focusing on measurable outcomes. His passion for helping organizations harness the power of social networks makes a strong case for why networks matter in the modern workplace.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How focusing on people and networks—not just technology—drives workplace results [1:00]</li><li>Nine key use cases for network analysis, ranging from career growth to cultural change [2:40]</li><li>How Post Malone’s collaborations illustrate the power of networks in boosting success [9:00]</li><li>How “energizing influencers” like Dolly Parton can spark organizational transformation [14:00]</li><li>How the pandemic shifted networks from open to closed, impacting innovation [29:00]</li><li>Building networks for career growth, even without organizational support [39:20]</li><li>How AI can make network analysis more accessible and actionable [44:18]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/greg-pryor-907920_i-hope-you-can-join-us-tomorrow-for-this-activity-7237120762388615169-UL83" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Social Capital Imperative</a></li><li><a href="https://orgmapper.com/membership-material/ona-summit-2020-greg-pryor-how-ona-insights-accelerated-role-transitions/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Organizational Network Analysis (ONA)</a></li><li><a href="https://hbr.org/2023/02/what-is-psychological-safety" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Amy Edmondson’s work on Psychological Safety</a></li><li><a href="https://www.robcross.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Rob Cross</a> - network analysis expert</li><li><a href="https://drjohnboudreau.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John Boudreau</a></li></ul>Connect with Greg Pryor<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-pryor-907920/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Greg Pryor on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2838</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>connectedcommons,gregpryor,redthreadresearch,socialconnection,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6bc82922159047c074276a3267448b56.jpg"/><itunes:episode>88</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Redefining Learning and Development at McKinsey: Lisa Christensen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/redefining-learning-and-development-at-mckinsey-lisa-christensen--62292086</link><description><![CDATA[What if your L&amp;D team could shift from merely delivering training to truly driving your company’s strategic goals? In this conversation, we talk with Lisa Christensen, McKinsey’s Director of Learning and Innovation. Lisa takes a refreshingly strategic approach, asking not just how L&amp;D can support learning but “To what end?” She shares how her focus on outcomes over output has reshaped McKinsey’s approach to everything from people analytics to building a strong feedback culture.<br /><br />We also talk about why L&amp;D should embrace experimentation, moving far beyond traditional course delivery to tackle big organizational challenges. Lisa makes the case for L&amp;D to collaborate closely with People Analytics and Legal to ensure that learning initiatives aren’t just reactive but strategically positioned for future growth. Her “no regrets” actions offer useful, bold steps for L&amp;D leaders, inspiring us to see the function as a driver of both human and organizational transformation.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Why McKinsey's L&amp;D team always starts with the question, "To what end?" [1:00]</li><li>The risk of L&amp;D focusing only on short-term skill needs [15:00]</li><li>Collaboration with People Analytics transforming L&amp;D's impact [18:00]</li><li>L&amp;D teams losing their value by sticking to outdated metrics [20:00]</li><li>What it means for L&amp;D to have an experimental mindset [31:00]</li><li>How L&amp;D leaders can ensure their department's stability and credibility [37:00]</li><li>The “no regrets” actions every L&amp;D team should consider right now [43:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.oliverwyman.com/our-expertise/hubs/workforce-for-the-future.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oliver Wyman Report on Workforce Future</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/operations/how-we-help-clients/innovation-and-learning-centers/overview" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">McKinsey’s Learning &amp; Innovation Center of Excellence</a></li></ul>Connect with Lisa Christensen<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisachristensen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Lisa Christensen on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62292086</guid><pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2024 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62292086/ws087.mp3" length="39319880" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ueicTGHYQKWuc_86dnaRcb9qN6QXRT5w/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What if your L&amp;amp;D team could shift from merely delivering training to truly driving your company’s strategic goals? In this conversation, we talk with Lisa Christensen, McKinsey’s Director of Learning and Innovation. Lisa takes a refreshingly...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What if your L&amp;D team could shift from merely delivering training to truly driving your company’s strategic goals? In this conversation, we talk with Lisa Christensen, McKinsey’s Director of Learning and Innovation. Lisa takes a refreshingly strategic approach, asking not just how L&amp;D can support learning but “To what end?” She shares how her focus on outcomes over output has reshaped McKinsey’s approach to everything from people analytics to building a strong feedback culture.<br /><br />We also talk about why L&amp;D should embrace experimentation, moving far beyond traditional course delivery to tackle big organizational challenges. Lisa makes the case for L&amp;D to collaborate closely with People Analytics and Legal to ensure that learning initiatives aren’t just reactive but strategically positioned for future growth. Her “no regrets” actions offer useful, bold steps for L&amp;D leaders, inspiring us to see the function as a driver of both human and organizational transformation.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Why McKinsey's L&amp;D team always starts with the question, "To what end?" [1:00]</li><li>The risk of L&amp;D focusing only on short-term skill needs [15:00]</li><li>Collaboration with People Analytics transforming L&amp;D's impact [18:00]</li><li>L&amp;D teams losing their value by sticking to outdated metrics [20:00]</li><li>What it means for L&amp;D to have an experimental mindset [31:00]</li><li>How L&amp;D leaders can ensure their department's stability and credibility [37:00]</li><li>The “no regrets” actions every L&amp;D team should consider right now [43:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.oliverwyman.com/our-expertise/hubs/workforce-for-the-future.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Oliver Wyman Report on Workforce Future</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/operations/how-we-help-clients/innovation-and-learning-centers/overview" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">McKinsey’s Learning &amp; Innovation Center of Excellence</a></li></ul>Connect with Lisa Christensen<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisachristensen/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Lisa Christensen on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2806</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>lisachristensen,mckinsey,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ca2bda9700213e0db5c883eb06a4acdf.jpg"/><itunes:episode>87</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Mitchel MacNair: Crown Castle - Making Employee Development Strategic</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/mitchel-macnair-crown-castle-making-employee-development-strategic--62090783</link><description><![CDATA[How do you turn a skeptical organization into a believer in the power of Learning &amp; Development? We interviewed Mitchel MacNair, Director of Talent Development and Learning at Crown Castle to find out. Mitchel takes us on a journey from his unconventional background in nuclear engineering and the Navy to leading transformational change in L&amp;D. He tells us how he reshaped Crown Castle’s learning function by aligning it with business strategy, building credibility through data-driven results, and elevating its impact across the organization. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>How Mitchel’s background in the Navy prepared him for L&amp;D leadership [4:35]</li><li>Handling the loss of 50% of the L&amp;D team within Mitchel’s first six months [6:20]</li><li>How organizational chaos impacts strategic L&amp;D changes at Crown Castle [9:29]</li><li>Transforming L&amp;D from "order takers" to strategic business partners [10:58]</li><li>The role of the principal designer in Crown Castle’s L&amp;D success [13:20]</li><li>Collaborating with other functions to focus on outcomes [15:10]</li><li>Why obtaining business performance data early is critical for L&amp;D success [18:17]</li><li>Demonstrating a 192% increase in services sold through L&amp;D programs [23:00]</li><li>How Crown Castle developed their AI policies [35:10]</li><li>L&amp;D’s role in Crown Castle's skills strategy and future talent planning [41:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Your-Genius-Work-Questions-Before/dp/0891061940" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Your Genius at Work by Dick Richards</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shackletonjones/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nick Shackleton-Jones (LinkedIn Thought Leader)</a></li></ul>Connect with Mitchel MacNair<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchelmacnair/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mitchel MacNair on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/62090783</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2024 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/62090783/ws086.mp3" length="37200947" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NQ_5IJUGxgloVZenT4XDsHTNdFO9zq_-/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>How do you turn a skeptical organization into a believer in the power of Learning &amp;amp; Development? We interviewed Mitchel MacNair, Director of Talent Development and Learning at Crown Castle to find out. Mitchel takes us on a journey from his...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[How do you turn a skeptical organization into a believer in the power of Learning &amp; Development? We interviewed Mitchel MacNair, Director of Talent Development and Learning at Crown Castle to find out. Mitchel takes us on a journey from his unconventional background in nuclear engineering and the Navy to leading transformational change in L&amp;D. He tells us how he reshaped Crown Castle’s learning function by aligning it with business strategy, building credibility through data-driven results, and elevating its impact across the organization. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>How Mitchel’s background in the Navy prepared him for L&amp;D leadership [4:35]</li><li>Handling the loss of 50% of the L&amp;D team within Mitchel’s first six months [6:20]</li><li>How organizational chaos impacts strategic L&amp;D changes at Crown Castle [9:29]</li><li>Transforming L&amp;D from "order takers" to strategic business partners [10:58]</li><li>The role of the principal designer in Crown Castle’s L&amp;D success [13:20]</li><li>Collaborating with other functions to focus on outcomes [15:10]</li><li>Why obtaining business performance data early is critical for L&amp;D success [18:17]</li><li>Demonstrating a 192% increase in services sold through L&amp;D programs [23:00]</li><li>How Crown Castle developed their AI policies [35:10]</li><li>L&amp;D’s role in Crown Castle's skills strategy and future talent planning [41:00]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Your-Genius-Work-Questions-Before/dp/0891061940" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Your Genius at Work by Dick Richards</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shackletonjones/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nick Shackleton-Jones (LinkedIn Thought Leader)</a></li></ul>Connect with Mitchel MacNair<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchelmacnair/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mitchel MacNair on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2655</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>crowncastle,learninganddevelopment,mitchelmacnair,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/fe7ba19caccf1882cc9653b769c62817.jpg"/><itunes:episode>86</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>HR, Workforce Automation, and GenAI at Merck: Jeremy Shapiro &amp; Chris Shultz</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/hr-workforce-automation-and-genai-at-merck-jeremy-shapiro-chris-shultz--61313445</link><description><![CDATA[Jeremy Shapiro, AVP of Human Resources and Workforce Analytics, and Chris Shultz, Director of HR Intelligent Automation and Gen AI at Merck join us in this forward-thinking conversation. Learn how (and why) Merck is embracing AI to streamline HR processes, support innovation, and maintain ethical considerations. This was hugely educational for us and we hope you get a glimpse into the future of HR tech.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>What does the future of HR look like in an AI-driven world? [1:17]</li><li>How can AI serve as a translator and guide for HR professionals? [7:47]</li><li>How Merck ensures AI is implemented responsibly [8:51]</li><li>How Merck leveraging AI for massive efficiency gains in HR [12:45]</li><li>How Merck determines what AI solutions to build internally [16:54]</li><li>Can HR keep pushing the efficiency frontier with AI, or is there a limit? [19:19] </li><li>How organizations can support the mental well-being of AI engineers [25:16]</li><li>How ethics play a crucial role in the development of AI [31:12]</li><li>What key strategies should HR leaders focus on in the next six months? [37:03]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/keith-mcnulty_ai-technology-analytics-activity-7199031246608310272-7GfJ/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Keith McNulty’s (McKinsey &amp; Company) post about the bias of LLMs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danpontefract/2023/09/29/harvard-and-bcg-unveil-the-double-edged-sword-of-ai-in-the-workplace/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BCG’s Research on AI in the workplace</a></li><li><a href="https://community.glintinc.com/get-to-know-glint-26" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Glint (HR tool)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workday.com/en-us/products/human-capital-management/human-resource-management.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Workday (HR tool)</a></li></ul>Connect with our Guests<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyashapiro/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jeremy Shapiro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/real-chris-shultz/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chris Shultz</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61313445</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2024 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61313445/ws085.mp3" length="35751280" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1janhJoI7PpzTCxDTXSZzj77ref6FP0lb/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Jeremy Shapiro, AVP of Human Resources and Workforce Analytics, and Chris Shultz, Director of HR Intelligent Automation and Gen AI at Merck join us in this forward-thinking conversation. Learn how (and why) Merck is embracing AI to streamline HR...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jeremy Shapiro, AVP of Human Resources and Workforce Analytics, and Chris Shultz, Director of HR Intelligent Automation and Gen AI at Merck join us in this forward-thinking conversation. Learn how (and why) Merck is embracing AI to streamline HR processes, support innovation, and maintain ethical considerations. This was hugely educational for us and we hope you get a glimpse into the future of HR tech.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>What does the future of HR look like in an AI-driven world? [1:17]</li><li>How can AI serve as a translator and guide for HR professionals? [7:47]</li><li>How Merck ensures AI is implemented responsibly [8:51]</li><li>How Merck leveraging AI for massive efficiency gains in HR [12:45]</li><li>How Merck determines what AI solutions to build internally [16:54]</li><li>Can HR keep pushing the efficiency frontier with AI, or is there a limit? [19:19] </li><li>How organizations can support the mental well-being of AI engineers [25:16]</li><li>How ethics play a crucial role in the development of AI [31:12]</li><li>What key strategies should HR leaders focus on in the next six months? [37:03]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/keith-mcnulty_ai-technology-analytics-activity-7199031246608310272-7GfJ/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Keith McNulty’s (McKinsey &amp; Company) post about the bias of LLMs</a></li><li><a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/danpontefract/2023/09/29/harvard-and-bcg-unveil-the-double-edged-sword-of-ai-in-the-workplace/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">BCG’s Research on AI in the workplace</a></li><li><a href="https://community.glintinc.com/get-to-know-glint-26" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Glint (HR tool)</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workday.com/en-us/products/human-capital-management/human-resource-management.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Workday (HR tool)</a></li></ul>Connect with our Guests<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyashapiro/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Jeremy Shapiro</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/real-chris-shultz/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Chris Shultz</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2551</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3313a0dcd2a147b86786716dafa580ea.jpg"/><itunes:episode>82</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Critical Role Data Plays in Skills Development: MetLife’s Emily Hacker and Dan Weiss</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-critical-role-data-plays-in-skills-development-metlife-s-emily-hacker-and-dan-weiss--61172346</link><description><![CDATA[Skills data can be used to raise the bar in talent acquisition, implement data-driven learning, make strategic workforce planning decisions, help employees reach career aspirations, and much more. Too many organizations are so glued to the idea of perfection that they won’t implement imperfect programs to gather skills data. Dan Weiss and Emily Hacker believe that this mindset is useless.Your skills data won’t be perfect—but it can still be useful and helpful to employees. They share exactly why in this episode of Workplace Stories. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Join the RedThread Research Community! [2:53] </li><li>Learning more about Dan Weiss and Emily Hacker [3:35] </li><li>Transforming culture before building infrastructure [9:07] </li><li>How the MetLife culture championed the process [13:23] </li><li>Their current pilot and the vision for the future [16:40] </li><li>The lightning round [25:46] </li><li>How to get buy-in from leadership [30:09]</li><li>The critical role data plays in skills development [33:09] </li><li>Their data sources and how they’re using them [36:43] </li><li>Where does the data live? [40:43] </li><li>The biggest thing Emily and Dan have learned [43:35] </li><li>Why Emily and Dan do the work they do [44:26] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Join the <a href="http://members.redthreadresearch.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research Community!</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.metlife.com/workforce-insights/employee-benefit-trends/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Employee Benefits Trends Study </a></li></ul>Connect with Emily Hacker and Dan Weiss<ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyhackernyc/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Emily on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danweiss/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61172346</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61172346/ws084.mp3" length="39013137" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RMxzp8weAifc_pT0rIq9OjZz6-O4Hdnh/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Skills data can be used to raise the bar in talent acquisition, implement data-driven learning, make strategic workforce planning decisions, help employees reach career aspirations, and much more. Too many organizations are so glued to the idea of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Skills data can be used to raise the bar in talent acquisition, implement data-driven learning, make strategic workforce planning decisions, help employees reach career aspirations, and much more. Too many organizations are so glued to the idea of perfection that they won’t implement imperfect programs to gather skills data. Dan Weiss and Emily Hacker believe that this mindset is useless.Your skills data won’t be perfect—but it can still be useful and helpful to employees. They share exactly why in this episode of Workplace Stories. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Join the RedThread Research Community! [2:53] </li><li>Learning more about Dan Weiss and Emily Hacker [3:35] </li><li>Transforming culture before building infrastructure [9:07] </li><li>How the MetLife culture championed the process [13:23] </li><li>Their current pilot and the vision for the future [16:40] </li><li>The lightning round [25:46] </li><li>How to get buy-in from leadership [30:09]</li><li>The critical role data plays in skills development [33:09] </li><li>Their data sources and how they’re using them [36:43] </li><li>Where does the data live? [40:43] </li><li>The biggest thing Emily and Dan have learned [43:35] </li><li>Why Emily and Dan do the work they do [44:26] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Join the <a href="http://members.redthreadresearch.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research Community!</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.metlife.com/workforce-insights/employee-benefit-trends/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Employee Benefits Trends Study </a></li></ul>Connect with Emily Hacker and Dan Weiss<ul><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyhackernyc/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Emily on LinkedIn</a></li><li>Connect with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/danweiss/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dan on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2784</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>danweiss,emilyhacker,metlife,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/96ab31a0c60e661be16e81068b545956.jpg"/><itunes:episode>84</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Operationalizing AI Experimentation: Harvard Business Publishing’s Angela Cheng-Cimini</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/operationalizing-ai-experimentation-harvard-business-publishing-s-angela-cheng-cimini--61016858</link><description><![CDATA[Generative AI is taking the world by storm, and the realm of HR is no exception. The use of AI will change a business and it will impact teams. That’s why Angela Cheng-Cimini seeks to answer the question, “How do you make sure your teams are positively impacted by AI?”A lot of the conversation starts with mitigating the fear that surrounds AI. Angela believes one of the ways you can get people to run toward generative AI is to create a safe environment where they can play with it and be amazed by its capabilities. Then, they’ll want to integrate it into their work. In this conversation, Angela shares how—as the CHRO—she’s operationalizing AI experimentation at Harvard Business Publishing. Because, ultimately, “AI is not going to replace humans. But humans will be replaced by humans who use AI.”<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Learn more about Angela Cheng-Cimini and her role [3:31] </li><li>The issues Angela is facing in her organization [5:49] </li><li>Using AI to help with the employee experience [9:51] </li><li>The Gen AI experiment that Angela ran [13:27] </li><li>The impact of Gen AI on recruiting[16:06] </li><li>How to take advantage of AI [18:59] </li><li>How to justify the expense of AI [22:30] </li><li>The ethical use of AI in organizations [24:16] </li><li>Influencing broader AI enablement strategy [26:37] </li><li>The lightning round [28:19] </li><li>HR’s role in integrating AI into the workforce [31:11] </li><li>How to operationalize experimentation [34:00] </li><li>Angela’s advice to leaders using Gen AI [36:00]</li><li>Angela’s biggest takeaway from the AI journey [40:34]</li><li>Why is Angela passionate about HR? [41:28] </li></ul><br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/generative-ai-for-everyone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Generative AI for Everyone</a></li></ul>Connect with Angela Cheng-Cimini<ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-cheng-cimini/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://hbsp.harvard.edu/home/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvard Business Publishing</a> </li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/61016858</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/61016858/ws083.mp3" length="36870044" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/17alMnFN0lh1mQsSQ8Vhe8k6U0od1CiR3/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Generative AI is taking the world by storm, and the realm of HR is no exception. The use of AI will change a business and it will impact teams. That’s why Angela Cheng-Cimini seeks to answer the question, “How do you make sure your teams are...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Generative AI is taking the world by storm, and the realm of HR is no exception. The use of AI will change a business and it will impact teams. That’s why Angela Cheng-Cimini seeks to answer the question, “How do you make sure your teams are positively impacted by AI?”A lot of the conversation starts with mitigating the fear that surrounds AI. Angela believes one of the ways you can get people to run toward generative AI is to create a safe environment where they can play with it and be amazed by its capabilities. Then, they’ll want to integrate it into their work. In this conversation, Angela shares how—as the CHRO—she’s operationalizing AI experimentation at Harvard Business Publishing. Because, ultimately, “AI is not going to replace humans. But humans will be replaced by humans who use AI.”<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Learn more about Angela Cheng-Cimini and her role [3:31] </li><li>The issues Angela is facing in her organization [5:49] </li><li>Using AI to help with the employee experience [9:51] </li><li>The Gen AI experiment that Angela ran [13:27] </li><li>The impact of Gen AI on recruiting[16:06] </li><li>How to take advantage of AI [18:59] </li><li>How to justify the expense of AI [22:30] </li><li>The ethical use of AI in organizations [24:16] </li><li>Influencing broader AI enablement strategy [26:37] </li><li>The lightning round [28:19] </li><li>HR’s role in integrating AI into the workforce [31:11] </li><li>How to operationalize experimentation [34:00] </li><li>Angela’s advice to leaders using Gen AI [36:00]</li><li>Angela’s biggest takeaway from the AI journey [40:34]</li><li>Why is Angela passionate about HR? [41:28] </li></ul><br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://www.coursera.org/learn/generative-ai-for-everyone" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Generative AI for Everyone</a></li></ul>Connect with Angela Cheng-Cimini<ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-cheng-cimini/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://hbsp.harvard.edu/home/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Harvard Business Publishing</a> </li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2631</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ai,angelachengcimini,generativeai,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/18ab2825871aa8be54af51da875b6906.jpg"/><itunes:episode>83</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Debunking the Proposed Half-Life of a Skill: Guild Education’s Matthew Daniel</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/debunking-the-proposed-half-life-of-a-skill-guild-education-s-matthew-daniel--60866331</link><description><![CDATA[Matthew Daniel—the Senior Principal for Talent Strategy and Mobility at Guild Education—believes that, in a workplace context, skills are the things we know, can do, and the ways of thinking that help us deliver on business strategy. They are rich, deep, complex, and meaningful.Matthew believes that the “Half-life” statistic that’s been perpetuated about workplace skills is garbage. In this conversation, he details exactly why the half-life of a skill being 2 ½ to 5 years is faulty logic and how we should view skills differently. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How to join the RedThread Research community [3:16]</li><li>Learn more about Matthew Daniel [3:52] </li><li>The half-life of a workplace skill [6:57] </li><li>The history of the false statistic [13:20] </li><li>How this statistic has influenced decisions [20:29] </li><li>The importance of critical thinking [24:18] </li><li>The lightning round [31:15] </li><li>How Matthew talks about skills [34:23] </li><li>Durable versus perishable skills [38:27]</li><li>Skills as an equalizer in organizations [40:55] </li><li>The big takeaway from Matthew’s research [43:28] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Join the <a href="http://members.redthreadresearch.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research community</a>!</li><li>Matthew’s article: <a href="https://www.tlnt.com/articles/lets-not-obsess-about-disappearing-skills-we-need-to-plan-for-the-ones-thatll-remain" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let’s not obsess about disappearing skills; we need to plan for the ones that’ll stay</a></li><li><a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1970-19619-001" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Obsolescence and Retraining of Engineering Personnel</a></li></ul>Connect with Matthew Daniel<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjdaniel/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.guild.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Guild Education</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60866331</guid><pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2024 05:00:05 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60866331/ws082.mp3" length="38100273" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gEY9NCCy04-Jf3XElT0FORqrxd3GbOjc/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Matthew Daniel—the Senior Principal for Talent Strategy and Mobility at Guild Education—believes that, in a workplace context, skills are the things we know, can do, and the ways of thinking that help us deliver on business strategy. They are rich,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Matthew Daniel—the Senior Principal for Talent Strategy and Mobility at Guild Education—believes that, in a workplace context, skills are the things we know, can do, and the ways of thinking that help us deliver on business strategy. They are rich, deep, complex, and meaningful.Matthew believes that the “Half-life” statistic that’s been perpetuated about workplace skills is garbage. In this conversation, he details exactly why the half-life of a skill being 2 ½ to 5 years is faulty logic and how we should view skills differently. You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>How to join the RedThread Research community [3:16]</li><li>Learn more about Matthew Daniel [3:52] </li><li>The half-life of a workplace skill [6:57] </li><li>The history of the false statistic [13:20] </li><li>How this statistic has influenced decisions [20:29] </li><li>The importance of critical thinking [24:18] </li><li>The lightning round [31:15] </li><li>How Matthew talks about skills [34:23] </li><li>Durable versus perishable skills [38:27]</li><li>Skills as an equalizer in organizations [40:55] </li><li>The big takeaway from Matthew’s research [43:28] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Join the <a href="http://members.redthreadresearch.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research community</a>!</li><li>Matthew’s article: <a href="https://www.tlnt.com/articles/lets-not-obsess-about-disappearing-skills-we-need-to-plan-for-the-ones-thatll-remain" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Let’s not obsess about disappearing skills; we need to plan for the ones that’ll stay</a></li><li><a href="https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1970-19619-001" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">On the Obsolescence and Retraining of Engineering Personnel</a></li></ul>Connect with Matthew Daniel<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewjdaniel/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.guild.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Guild Education</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2719</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4183d965e926ce330dd5ae5972615265.jpg"/><itunes:episode>82</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Problem with Change: Author Ashley Goodall</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-problem-with-change-author-ashley-goodall--60706067</link><description><![CDATA[Ashley Goodall has spent 20 years in various roles in HR, covering everything from performance management to leadership. He spent six years at Cisco as the SVP of HR. He left Cisco to write his book, “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Problem-Change-Essential-Nature-Performance/dp/0316560278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Problem with Change</a>,” which was just released. In it, he addresses the problems that accompany change. <br /><br />To write his book, Ashley interviewed people around the world, asking them to tell their stories of organizational change. Many people told miserable stories, stories of unending change propelled by mergers, new leadership, new strategies, and much more—much of it unnecessary. What was the result?<br /><br />People were struggling to do their jobs because of the constant change. Yet organizations are rewarding leaders to do things that make it hard for their employees to do their work! That’s a problem, right? So, what should we do instead?<br /><br />We have to understand the conditions of human performance to understand how we can “do” change better. Ashley begins to dissect that complicated yet fascinating topic in this episode of Workplace Stories.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Join the RedThread Community [1:34]</li><li>Why you should listen to Ashley Goodall [4:49] </li><li>What is the problem with change? [7:09]</li><li>Why Ashley wrote another book about change [10:34]</li><li>The problems that accompany change [12:45] </li><li>Looking at meaning and purpose differently [18:53] </li><li>The story of Alexander the Great [23:38] </li><li>The connection between meaning and ritual [25:29] </li><li>We need to stop treating humans like “SKUmans” [29:10]</li><li>The lightning round [33:08]</li><li>Getting good at stability management [36:38] </li><li>What we can learn from “the pistols” [39:59]</li><li>How to create belonging on your team [44:21]</li><li>Focusing on your teams to create stability [45:43] </li><li>Learning how to radicalize HR [48:53] </li><li>Ashley’s biggest takeaway from writing a book [53:11] </li></ul>The problems that accompany change <br /><br />Ashley addresses five core problem areas that accompany change: <br /><ol><li>Uncertainty</li><li>Lack of control </li><li>Lack of belonging </li><li>Displacement</li><li>Loss of meaning</li></ol>The feeling of belonging is intuitive. Humans form social groups. Those groups are massively important to psychological health, sense of identity, and cognitive processes. The way we think is socially mediated. A team gives you a sense of belonging. It’s a source of massive stability.<br /><br /> Teammates complement each other so together they can meet a goal that couldn’t be achieved alone. When reorganization happens, all of the social groups at work are upended. In his book, Ashley also dove into the science of “place attachment.” People get attached to places. Place is a thing strongly tied to work. But there’s also a connection between ritual and place.<br /><br />Our habits are a mechanism by which we grow attached to a place. Habits and rituals tied to place have people saying “It’s where I do this” or “It’s where we do this.” When offices are changed or people are moved, you disrupt the rituals attached to that place.<br /><br />Those places are a source of stability. And for people to do their best work, they need stability. All of these facets of a human—certainty, control, social groups, sense of place, ritual—are the foundation of showing up at work and being useful. Everyone wants to be useful. How we design the workplace hinges on these things.<br /><br />Ashley is clear: “Sooner or later you have to ask people what they want and listen to what they tell you.”<br /><br />How Ashley looks at meaning differently<br /><br />Ashley points out that the world around us must make sense. You can’t be uplifted by the mission of an organization if you can’t figure out what the mission is. Science tells us that the coherence of our world is so important that when it’s taken away in one place, we find it in another.<br /><br />There are two ingredients to meaning:<br /><ol><li>Things have to make sense (which is shredded when things are changed)</li><li>You need to find your own purpose. Someone can’t tell you what your purpose is </li></ol>We encounter the world and question, “Do I understand what’s going on here? Is this something that speaks to me?” If it does and someone asks if your work has meaning, you’ll say “yes.” Unfortunately, people think everyone around them has to have the same meaning. It doesn’t work like that. As much as they dislike it, employers aren’t massively important to someone’s purpose.<br /><br />We need to stop treating humans like “SKUmans”<br /><br />What characteristics of humans do we capture in our technology at work? How does that inform how we think about people at work? We track the “cogs in a machine” stuff. We record names, date of birth, someone’s role, their certifications and experience, etc. but we don’t record what amuses someone, what makes them smile, and the weird things they love to do. Maybe they’re always late for meetings, love to bake, or love creating spreadsheets.<br /><br />If you think humans are interchangeable and emotionless beings, how would you describe them? As a “SKU” number. SKUs are stock-keeping units. They track what something costs, where it is in the store, what the margin is, etc. We’ve been doing the same to humans. And that’s massively inhuman. We can’t capture human work this way. How might we capture a human at work?<br /><br />Ashley argues for getting better at understanding what people are like at work. It’s about asking questions like, “How are you offering your best to other humans? Why did you show up today?”<br /><br />Now that we’ve covered the problems with change, how do we address them? Ashley shares how stability management just might be the key (and how to navigate it) in this episode.<br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Join the <a href="http://members.readthreadresearch.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Community</a>!</li></ul>Connect with Ashley Goodall<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Problem-Change-Essential-Nature-Performance/dp/0316560278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Problem with Change: And the Essential Nature of Human Performance</a></li><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleygoodall/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60706067</guid><pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2024 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60706067/ws001.mp3" length="46781109" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YGFWc5TbidDvhocvDh89Ao6t0bwggTEl/view?usp=drive_link" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Ashley Goodall has spent 20 years in various roles in HR, covering everything from performance management to leadership. He spent six years at Cisco as the SVP of HR. He left Cisco to write his book,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Ashley Goodall has spent 20 years in various roles in HR, covering everything from performance management to leadership. He spent six years at Cisco as the SVP of HR. He left Cisco to write his book, “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Problem-Change-Essential-Nature-Performance/dp/0316560278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Problem with Change</a>,” which was just released. In it, he addresses the problems that accompany change. <br /><br />To write his book, Ashley interviewed people around the world, asking them to tell their stories of organizational change. Many people told miserable stories, stories of unending change propelled by mergers, new leadership, new strategies, and much more—much of it unnecessary. What was the result?<br /><br />People were struggling to do their jobs because of the constant change. Yet organizations are rewarding leaders to do things that make it hard for their employees to do their work! That’s a problem, right? So, what should we do instead?<br /><br />We have to understand the conditions of human performance to understand how we can “do” change better. Ashley begins to dissect that complicated yet fascinating topic in this episode of Workplace Stories.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Join the RedThread Community [1:34]</li><li>Why you should listen to Ashley Goodall [4:49] </li><li>What is the problem with change? [7:09]</li><li>Why Ashley wrote another book about change [10:34]</li><li>The problems that accompany change [12:45] </li><li>Looking at meaning and purpose differently [18:53] </li><li>The story of Alexander the Great [23:38] </li><li>The connection between meaning and ritual [25:29] </li><li>We need to stop treating humans like “SKUmans” [29:10]</li><li>The lightning round [33:08]</li><li>Getting good at stability management [36:38] </li><li>What we can learn from “the pistols” [39:59]</li><li>How to create belonging on your team [44:21]</li><li>Focusing on your teams to create stability [45:43] </li><li>Learning how to radicalize HR [48:53] </li><li>Ashley’s biggest takeaway from writing a book [53:11] </li></ul>The problems that accompany change <br /><br />Ashley addresses five core problem areas that accompany change: <br /><ol><li>Uncertainty</li><li>Lack of control </li><li>Lack of belonging </li><li>Displacement</li><li>Loss of meaning</li></ol>The feeling of belonging is intuitive. Humans form social groups. Those groups are massively important to psychological health, sense of identity, and cognitive processes. The way we think is socially mediated. A team gives you a sense of belonging. It’s a source of massive stability.<br /><br /> Teammates complement each other so together they can meet a goal that couldn’t be achieved alone. When reorganization happens, all of the social groups at work are upended. In his book, Ashley also dove into the science of “place attachment.” People get attached to places. Place is a thing strongly tied to work. But there’s also a connection between ritual and place.<br /><br />Our habits are a mechanism by which we grow attached to a place. Habits and rituals tied to place have people saying “It’s where I do this” or “It’s where we do this.” When offices are changed or people are moved, you disrupt the rituals attached to that place.<br /><br />Those places are a source of stability. And for people to do their best work, they need stability. All of these facets of a human—certainty, control, social groups, sense of place, ritual—are the foundation of showing up at work and being useful. Everyone wants to be useful. How we design the workplace hinges on these things.<br /><br />Ashley is clear: “Sooner or later you have to ask people what they want and listen to what they tell you.”<br /><br />How Ashley looks at meaning differently<br /><br />Ashley points out that the world around us must make sense. You can’t be uplifted by the mission of an organization if you can’t...]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3339</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ashleygoodall,changemanagement,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e713fe903096ec5363468864ddadda36.jpg"/><itunes:episode>80</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Using a Skills Framework to Empower Employees: Microsoft’s Shweta Srivastava and John Mighell</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/using-a-skills-framework-to-empower-employees-microsoft-s-shweta-srivastava-and-john-mighell--60198158</link><description><![CDATA[The mission of Microsoft is to empower every person in every organization to achieve more. An enterprise-wide skills focus is one way they’re fulfilling their mission.<br /><br />It’s about moving beyond job titles and fixed roles to give freedom and flexibility to apply skills and expertise where they matter the most. And it’s all in service of creating an environment where growing one’s career is the top reason to join and stay at Microsoft.<br /><br />They’re using human verification to give the individual control over the data that’s included, who it’s shared with, and how it’s shared.<br /><br />Shweta Srivastava and John Mighell share how Microsoft is implementing skills on a large scale in this fascinating conversation.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/60198158</guid><pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/60198158/ws007.mp3" length="44490824" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9lMkjaRJNYYfZ1buYMB_Whlx5KTSKNA/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The mission of Microsoft is to empower every person in every organization to achieve more. An enterprise-wide skills focus is one way they’re fulfilling their mission.

It’s about moving beyond job titles and fixed roles to give freedom and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The mission of Microsoft is to empower every person in every organization to achieve more. An enterprise-wide skills focus is one way they’re fulfilling their mission.<br /><br />It’s about moving beyond job titles and fixed roles to give freedom and flexibility to apply skills and expertise where they matter the most. And it’s all in service of creating an environment where growing one’s career is the top reason to join and stay at Microsoft.<br /><br />They’re using human verification to give the individual control over the data that’s included, who it’s shared with, and how it’s shared.<br /><br />Shweta Srivastava and John Mighell share how Microsoft is implementing skills on a large scale in this fascinating conversation.<br /><br /><a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3175</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>johnmighell,microsoft,redthreadresearch,shwetasrivastava,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/0966f3e239f9f26e700acb81bb9070da.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Skills are like Oxygen: Ericsson’s Vidya Krishnan + Peter Sheppard</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-skills-are-like-oxygen-ericsson-s-vidya-krishnan-peter-sheppard--59905320</link><description><![CDATA[“Skills are like oxygen, invisible but necessary.” <br /><br />This mindset shift is the brainchild of Vidya Krishnan, the Chief Learning Officer, and Peter Sheppard, the Head of the Global L&amp;D Ecosystem at Ericsson.<br /><br />Much of their job is identifying the oxygen and making it visible so they can do something with it. To do this, they’re taking a top-down and bottom-up approach. They’ve worked with senior leadership to define seven key skills they think everyone in the organization needs. They also work with the job leaders who own the skills to make sure their skills taxonomy is continuously updated.<br /><br />Vidya and Peter are passionate about what they do. They’re working tirelessly to systemize learning to take care of and serve the individual. Because, ultimately, systems-first means people-first.<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59905320</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 05:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59905320/ws006_1.mp3" length="55405475" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Se47iF2voLs4y5GCB1tLqVi3vhWDuuns/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“Skills are like oxygen, invisible but necessary.” 

This mindset shift is the brainchild of Vidya Krishnan, the Chief Learning Officer, and Peter Sheppard, the Head of the Global L&amp;amp;D Ecosystem at Ericsson.

Much of their job is identifying the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“Skills are like oxygen, invisible but necessary.” <br /><br />This mindset shift is the brainchild of Vidya Krishnan, the Chief Learning Officer, and Peter Sheppard, the Head of the Global L&amp;D Ecosystem at Ericsson.<br /><br />Much of their job is identifying the oxygen and making it visible so they can do something with it. To do this, they’re taking a top-down and bottom-up approach. They’ve worked with senior leadership to define seven key skills they think everyone in the organization needs. They also work with the job leaders who own the skills to make sure their skills taxonomy is continuously updated.<br /><br />Vidya and Peter are passionate about what they do. They’re working tirelessly to systemize learning to take care of and serve the individual. Because, ultimately, systems-first means people-first.<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3955</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>petersheppard,redthreadresearch,skills,vidyakrishnan,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/872dfe33cf5b89224dceeb52d5feb4b4.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Skills Management: What is the Secret Sauce? GP Strategies’ Matt Donovan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/skills-management-what-is-the-secret-sauce-gp-strategies-matt-donovan--59211483</link><description><![CDATA[How do we define work and the skills needed to do the work? The way we view and assess skills is often through assessing and appraising someone’s output. But the problem is that most organizations aren’t capturing the right data and using it to gain insight.<br /><br />According to Matt Donovan—the Chief Learning and Innovation Officer at GP Strategies—Job descriptions and skills in general describe the baseline. They are not what makes someone great at what they do. <br /><br />So how do we define the work and the skills needed to do the work? How can we capture a high-performer’s secret sauce? What are they doing that’s making it a successful experience versus what’s written in the job description?<br /><br />We dive into a fascinating conversation about where we are now, how AI is going to both help and disrupt organizations, and what the future of skills assessment could look like. <br /><br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/59211483</guid><pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 05:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/59211483/ws005_1.mp3" length="47592729" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>How do we define work and the skills needed to do the work? The way we view and assess skills is often through assessing and appraising someone’s output. But the problem is that most organizations aren’t capturing the right data and using it to gain...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[How do we define work and the skills needed to do the work? The way we view and assess skills is often through assessing and appraising someone’s output. But the problem is that most organizations aren’t capturing the right data and using it to gain insight.<br /><br />According to Matt Donovan—the Chief Learning and Innovation Officer at GP Strategies—Job descriptions and skills in general describe the baseline. They are not what makes someone great at what they do. <br /><br />So how do we define the work and the skills needed to do the work? How can we capture a high-performer’s secret sauce? What are they doing that’s making it a successful experience versus what’s written in the job description?<br /><br />We dive into a fascinating conversation about where we are now, how AI is going to both help and disrupt organizations, and what the future of skills assessment could look like. <br /><br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3397</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>gpstrategies,mattdonovan,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1dac5e902ff34f151eea05d7e198df44.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Generating Value from People Data: GSK’s Angela Le Mathon</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/generating-value-from-people-data-gsk-s-angela-le-mathon--58864299</link><description><![CDATA[GSK is a global biopharma company with a purpose to unite science, technology, and talent to get ahead of disease together. They aim to positively impact the health of 2.5 billion people by the end of 2030. <br /><br />In her role as the VP of People Data &amp; Analytics, Angela is responsible for generating value from their people data. She has the opportunity to shape thinking and inform strategy. Her job is to translate skills so that everyone can do what they need to with the data.<br /><br />She shares more about GSK’s scientific approach, how they’re using AI to gather information, and how skills verification ties in. Don’t miss this fascinating conversation.<br /><br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58864299</guid><pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58864299/ws003_1.mp3" length="37870871" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>GSK is a global biopharma company with a purpose to unite science, technology, and talent to get ahead of disease together. They aim to positively impact the health of 2.5 billion people by the end of 2030. 

In her role as the VP of People Data &amp;amp;...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[GSK is a global biopharma company with a purpose to unite science, technology, and talent to get ahead of disease together. They aim to positively impact the health of 2.5 billion people by the end of 2030. <br /><br />In her role as the VP of People Data &amp; Analytics, Angela is responsible for generating value from their people data. She has the opportunity to shape thinking and inform strategy. Her job is to translate skills so that everyone can do what they need to with the data.<br /><br />She shares more about GSK’s scientific approach, how they’re using AI to gather information, and how skills verification ties in. Don’t miss this fascinating conversation.<br /><br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2702</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>angelalemathon,gsk,peopledata,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/476bcd1b0028ba832748a336ab7334f9.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Skills: Yes, the Juice Is Worth the Squeeze: EPAM’s Sandra Loughlin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/skills-yes-the-juice-is-worth-the-squeeze-epam-s-sandra-loughlin--58934788</link><description><![CDATA[Sandra Loughlin is the Chief Learning Officer and the Global Head of Talent Enablement and Transformation at EPAM, a software engineering and consulting firm. Unlike many of the organizations we’ve spoken about, EPAM has been on a skills journey since its inception over 30 years ago. Building a skills-based organization has been the backbone of everything they do. In this conversation, Sandra shares why the juice is indeed “Worth the squeeze.”<br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58934788</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 06:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58934788/ws003_sandra_loughlin.mp3" length="42648983" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Sandra Loughlin is the Chief Learning Officer and the Global Head of Talent Enablement and Transformation at EPAM, a software engineering and consulting firm. Unlike many of the organizations we’ve spoken about, EPAM has been on a skills journey since...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Sandra Loughlin is the Chief Learning Officer and the Global Head of Talent Enablement and Transformation at EPAM, a software engineering and consulting firm. Unlike many of the organizations we’ve spoken about, EPAM has been on a skills journey since its inception over 30 years ago. Building a skills-based organization has been the backbone of everything they do. In this conversation, Sandra shares why the juice is indeed “Worth the squeeze.”<br /><a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3044</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>epam,redthreadresearch,sandraloughlin,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/83daf7b15e876804be5c8b34a9a1e829.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>When Digital Transformation Drives Skills Transformation: Booking.com’s Oliver Drury</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/when-digital-transformation-drives-skills-transformation-booking-com-s-oliver-drury--58740234</link><description><![CDATA[When Oliver (Ollie) Drury joined Booking.com, they dove into digital transformation by simplifying their tech stack—and reducing variables—using a middleware to stitch everything together. That enabled them to have a simpler set of variables from which to create their skills ecosystem. Their driving goal was to solve skills for the entire organization. In this conversation, Ollie shares how they’re working to accomplish a skills-based transformation by first focusing on digital transformation. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Join the RedThread Research Community [5:01]</li><li>Learn more about Ollie Drury and his work [5:59] </li><li>Why they’re creating a skills-based organization [7:09]</li><li>Why they focused on digital transformation first [8:00]</li><li>How they’re building for reversibility [18:04]</li><li>Major obstacles they’ve overcome [24:08] </li><li>How they’re measuring effectiveness [26:08] </li><li>The lightning round [27:58] </li><li>Who leads skills at Booking.com? [34:29]</li><li>Why employees own the skills data [38:05] </li><li>How culture impacts the journey to skills [42:38] </li><li>Steering away from the reward use case [47:53]</li><li>The biggest thing Ollie’s learned [49:35] </li><li>Why Ollie is passionate about this work [50:22] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Join the <a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mulesoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MuleSoft</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tech-off.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tech Off</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workday.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Workday</a></li><li><a href="https://gloat.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gloat</a></li><li><a href="https://neilsoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Neilsoft</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Crunchr</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Work-without-Jobs-Organizations-Management-ebook/dp/B097B3C73P" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Work without Jobs </a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/INSPIRED-Create-Tech-Products-Customers-ebook/dp/B077NRB36N/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inspired</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Potential-Science-Achieving-Greater/dp/0593653149" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hidden Potential</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Fallacy-Digital-Transformation-Management/dp/0262039680" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Technology Fallacy</a></li></ul>Connect with Oliver Drury<ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverdruryhr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58740234</guid><pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 06:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58740234/ws002.mp3" length="43440457" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nGzq5H15fZSuz9ynXrSg27qECFGh3W3E/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>When Oliver (Ollie) Drury joined Booking.com, they dove into digital transformation by simplifying their tech stack—and reducing variables—using a middleware to stitch everything together. That enabled them to have a simpler set of variables from...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[When Oliver (Ollie) Drury joined Booking.com, they dove into digital transformation by simplifying their tech stack—and reducing variables—using a middleware to stitch everything together. That enabled them to have a simpler set of variables from which to create their skills ecosystem. Their driving goal was to solve skills for the entire organization. In this conversation, Ollie shares how they’re working to accomplish a skills-based transformation by first focusing on digital transformation. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>Join the RedThread Research Community [5:01]</li><li>Learn more about Ollie Drury and his work [5:59] </li><li>Why they’re creating a skills-based organization [7:09]</li><li>Why they focused on digital transformation first [8:00]</li><li>How they’re building for reversibility [18:04]</li><li>Major obstacles they’ve overcome [24:08] </li><li>How they’re measuring effectiveness [26:08] </li><li>The lightning round [27:58] </li><li>Who leads skills at Booking.com? [34:29]</li><li>Why employees own the skills data [38:05] </li><li>How culture impacts the journey to skills [42:38] </li><li>Steering away from the reward use case [47:53]</li><li>The biggest thing Ollie’s learned [49:35] </li><li>Why Ollie is passionate about this work [50:22] </li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li>Join the <a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread Research Community</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mulesoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">MuleSoft</a></li><li><a href="https://www.tech-off.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tech Off</a></li><li><a href="https://www.workday.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Workday</a></li><li><a href="https://gloat.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Gloat</a></li><li><a href="https://neilsoft.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Neilsoft</a></li><li><a href="https://www.crunchr.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Crunchr</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Work-without-Jobs-Organizations-Management-ebook/dp/B097B3C73P" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Work without Jobs </a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/INSPIRED-Create-Tech-Products-Customers-ebook/dp/B077NRB36N/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Inspired</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Potential-Science-Achieving-Greater/dp/0593653149" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Hidden Potential</a></li><li>BOOK: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Fallacy-Digital-Transformation-Management/dp/0262039680" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Technology Fallacy</a></li></ul>Connect with Oliver Drury<ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverdruryhr/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3100</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>booking.com,digitaltransformation,oliverdrury,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2aa66622412d43035c92e4b0a88edc6a.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Company Culture is the Foundation for Skills Readiness: Executive Networks’ Gina Jeneroux</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/company-culture-is-the-foundation-for-skills-readiness-executive-networks-gina-jeneroux--58586907</link><description><![CDATA[According to Gina Jeneroux, company culture sets the foundation for skills readiness. If a company culture isn’t supportive of innovation and creativity, is it ready to support an initiative to focus on skills? Skills should be infused into everything you do in your organization and supported from the top down. Gina has spent almost 40 years in the financial services and learning industries. She spent the last few years running BMO’s corporate university and serving as Chief Learning Officer. In this conversation, she shares why a focus on skills is necessary, why company culture plays an important role, and how to get buy-in from company leadership.You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58586907</guid><pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 06:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58586907/ws001.mp3" length="45203585" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10avCfDotOasvARZT_3V-GTJOvOxzA5rt/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>According to Gina Jeneroux, company culture sets the foundation for skills readiness. If a company culture isn’t supportive of innovation and creativity, is it ready to support an initiative to focus on skills? Skills should be infused into everything...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[According to Gina Jeneroux, company culture sets the foundation for skills readiness. If a company culture isn’t supportive of innovation and creativity, is it ready to support an initiative to focus on skills? Skills should be infused into everything you do in your organization and supported from the top down. Gina has spent almost 40 years in the financial services and learning industries. She spent the last few years running BMO’s corporate university and serving as Chief Learning Officer. In this conversation, she shares why a focus on skills is necessary, why company culture plays an important role, and how to get buy-in from company leadership.You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3226</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>bmo,executivenetworks,ginajeneroux,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7eb0b37cd38df18ab9d7b397ab0dc79c.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Skills Odyssey IV: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-skills-odyssey-iv-opening-arguments--58515382</link><description><![CDATA[Welcome to the newest season of Workplace Stories. It will come as no surprise that we’re devoting season 11 to continuing our conversation around skills. Why? Because there are still questions to be answered. In these opening arguments, we’ll share the questions we’re being asked, what we’re looking forward to, and we’ll give you a sneak-peak of some of the amazing guests we’ll be having conversations with.<br /><br /><br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/58515382</guid><pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2024 06:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/58515382/ws000.mp3" length="9073743" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/15uaxpumGdaa911hVpUKWHI8nYS7FlJe1/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Welcome to the newest season of Workplace Stories. It will come as no surprise that we’re devoting season 11 to continuing our conversation around skills. Why? Because there are still questions to be answered. In these opening arguments, we’ll share...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome to the newest season of Workplace Stories. It will come as no surprise that we’re devoting season 11 to continuing our conversation around skills. Why? Because there are still questions to be answered. In these opening arguments, we’ll share the questions we’re being asked, what we’re looking forward to, and we’ll give you a sneak-peak of some of the amazing guests we’ll be having conversations with.<br /><br /><br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>645</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/32ab0d48e5429e09207d36e3d9338985.jpg"/><itunes:season>11</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A Skills Approach for the Present and Future: IEEE’s Jennifer Rogers</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-skills-approach-for-the-present-and-future-ieee-s-jennifer-rogers--57921705</link><description><![CDATA[Jennifer Rogers is the Executive Officer in the Learning Technology Standards Committee at the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), which has 427,000+ members in over 190 countries. The IEEE is the world’s largest trade organization and the professional home for engineering and technology communities worldwide. Jennifer is an unrelenting advocate for the potential that exists in others, which is why she’s a perfect fit at IEEE. IEEE is working together to figure out skills across an industry. They’re also focused on skills development and education at all levels through college and a professional career. In this conversation, Jennifer shares what a skills-based organization looks like, how they organize and validate skills, and how their approach focuses on both the present and future.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57921705</guid><pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 06:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/57921705/ws006.mp3" length="47157513" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hj4NTtzii52d2Qbj8SIwVxnRhaeZNZmR/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Jennifer Rogers is the Executive Officer in the Learning Technology Standards Committee at the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), which has 427,000+ members in over 190 countries. The IEEE is the world’s largest trade...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jennifer Rogers is the Executive Officer in the Learning Technology Standards Committee at the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE), which has 427,000+ members in over 190 countries. The IEEE is the world’s largest trade organization and the professional home for engineering and technology communities worldwide. Jennifer is an unrelenting advocate for the potential that exists in others, which is why she’s a perfect fit at IEEE. IEEE is working together to figure out skills across an industry. They’re also focused on skills development and education at all levels through college and a professional career. In this conversation, Jennifer shares what a skills-based organization looks like, how they organize and validate skills, and how their approach focuses on both the present and future.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3366</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ieee,jenniferrogers,redthreadresearch,skills,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/0f0f80e8832c122b9213d0cf811ab6d9.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Leveraging Generative AI to Efficiently Utilize Skills Data: McKinsey &amp; Company’s Yelena Mammadova, Ed.D</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/leveraging-generative-ai-to-efficiently-utilize-skills-data-mckinsey-company-s-yelena-mammadova-ed-d--57715728</link><description><![CDATA[According to Yelena Mammadova, Ed.D—the Associate Director of Learning, Skills Transformation Initiative at McKinsey—McKinsey seeks to bring impact to clients and create an organization where they attract, excite, and retain exceptional people. The primary goal of her department is to accelerate talent development. Yelena strives to connect human development and technology in her role. She is one our first guests who’s talked about generative AI and how it’s embedded into their skills effort. They’re using AI to connect and map skills information. <br /><br />Secondly, they’re integrating skills with their people analytics teams. They’re starting small and experimenting. Most organizations build skills models around the job architecture currently in place. McKinsey is taking a different approach. They’re developing assessments for skills so they know how to organize the people around the work they have.<br /><br />Learn more about their unique approach and their utilization of generative AI to father and efficiently utilize skills data in this conversation.<br /><br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57715728</guid><pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 06:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/57715728/ws005.mp3" length="41181519" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Um92VDsFjyDgLCdUcrCmKqa3PY8b9s75/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>According to Yelena Mammadova, Ed.D—the Associate Director of Learning, Skills Transformation Initiative at McKinsey—McKinsey seeks to bring impact to clients and create an organization where they attract, excite, and retain exceptional people. The...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[According to Yelena Mammadova, Ed.D—the Associate Director of Learning, Skills Transformation Initiative at McKinsey—McKinsey seeks to bring impact to clients and create an organization where they attract, excite, and retain exceptional people. The primary goal of her department is to accelerate talent development. Yelena strives to connect human development and technology in her role. She is one our first guests who’s talked about generative AI and how it’s embedded into their skills effort. They’re using AI to connect and map skills information. <br /><br />Secondly, they’re integrating skills with their people analytics teams. They’re starting small and experimenting. Most organizations build skills models around the job architecture currently in place. McKinsey is taking a different approach. They’re developing assessments for skills so they know how to organize the people around the work they have.<br /><br />Learn more about their unique approach and their utilization of generative AI to father and efficiently utilize skills data in this conversation.<br /><br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2939</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>generativeai,mckinseyandcompany,redthreadresearch,workplacestories,yelenamammadova</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/fc0abe2ddda0610e0471f052a6c51853.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Narrowing Scope &amp; Purpose to Ease the Transition to a Skills-Based Organization: HPE's Kaye Slay and Vandana Bhagtani</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/narrowing-scope-purpose-to-ease-the-transition-to-a-skills-based-organization-hpe-s-kaye-slay-and-vandana-bhagtani--57537567</link><description><![CDATA[Transitioning a large company like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) to a skills-based organization could be a daunting task. That’s why focusing on scope and purpose was an important place to start for Vandana Bhagtani and Kaye Slay. In this conversation, Vandana—The Director of Technical Talent Management—and Kaye—The User Experience and Adoption Lead for Talent and Learning Systems—share how they’ve worked together to develop a strategy for transitioning HPE to a skills-based organization. They also share why they chose to focus on a particular group and narrowed their scope further to talent acquisition and people development (all the while leveraging technology and AI). They’re at the start of their journey and will evolve and develop as they transition to a skills-based organization. <br /><br /><br /><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57537567</guid><pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 06:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/57537567/ws4.mp3" length="42010762" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_CTlkuX0ftojrHwyGrybvLtNETTH_GVF/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Transitioning a large company like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) to a skills-based organization could be a daunting task. That’s why focusing on scope and purpose was an important place to start for Vandana Bhagtani and Kaye Slay. In this...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Transitioning a large company like Hewlett Packard Enterprise (HPE) to a skills-based organization could be a daunting task. That’s why focusing on scope and purpose was an important place to start for Vandana Bhagtani and Kaye Slay. In this conversation, Vandana—The Director of Technical Talent Management—and Kaye—The User Experience and Adoption Lead for Talent and Learning Systems—share how they’ve worked together to develop a strategy for transitioning HPE to a skills-based organization. They also share why they chose to focus on a particular group and narrowed their scope further to talent acquisition and people development (all the while leveraging technology and AI). They’re at the start of their journey and will evolve and develop as they transition to a skills-based organization. <br /><br /><br /><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2998</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>hpe,kayeslay,purpose,redthreadresearch,scope,technology,vandanabhagtani,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/2a8c3c8a7e28b2a7d574eaad43cd149c.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Partnerships Focused on Learning Equity: Ingka Group’s Shannon Custard</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/partnerships-focused-on-learning-equity-ingka-group-s-shannon-custard--57355253</link><description><![CDATA[Shannon Custard—the Global Competence Development Manager at Ingka Group—is responsible for leading their global learning organization consisting of over 177,000 workers across 30+ countries globally. <br /><br />As they began the transition from a competence-based to a skills-based organization, Shannon wanted to focus first and foremost on frontline populations. They believe that frontline population learning equity is important and often neglected. So they focused on solving the skills problems for the frontline employees to then extrapolate to the corporate population.<br /><br />Through the process, they almost completely scrapped and redesigned their onboarding process to make sure the frontline team members had the skills necessary to be successful. When you help people reach success soon, it makes an impact.<br /><br />In this conversation, Shannon shares more about the process of transitioning to a skills-based organization, why the Ingka Group believes it’s important, and the impact it’s making on their frontline population. <br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/digest" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Future of Jobs Report 2023</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ikea.com/us/en/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">IKEA</a></li></ul>Connect with Shannon Custard<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.ingka.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ingka Group</a></li><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannoncustard/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57355253</guid><pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/57355253/ws003.mp3" length="40863578" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Sk62gLTXkalud4UlB21CXFPFIUB8MLzM/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Shannon Custard—the Global Competence Development Manager at Ingka Group—is responsible for leading their global learning organization consisting of over 177,000 workers across 30+ countries globally. 

As they began the transition from a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Shannon Custard—the Global Competence Development Manager at Ingka Group—is responsible for leading their global learning organization consisting of over 177,000 workers across 30+ countries globally. <br /><br />As they began the transition from a competence-based to a skills-based organization, Shannon wanted to focus first and foremost on frontline populations. They believe that frontline population learning equity is important and often neglected. So they focused on solving the skills problems for the frontline employees to then extrapolate to the corporate population.<br /><br />Through the process, they almost completely scrapped and redesigned their onboarding process to make sure the frontline team members had the skills necessary to be successful. When you help people reach success soon, it makes an impact.<br /><br />In this conversation, Shannon shares more about the process of transitioning to a skills-based organization, why the Ingka Group believes it’s important, and the impact it’s making on their frontline population. <br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2023/digest" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Future of Jobs Report 2023</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ikea.com/us/en/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">IKEA</a></li></ul>Connect with Shannon Custard<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.ingka.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Ingka Group</a></li><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/shannoncustard/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2916</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ikea,ingkagroup,jobarchitecture,learningequity,partnerships,redthreadresearch,shannoncustard,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1456f4b2c7038fe51dc6079f1585f628.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating a Job Architecture from Scratch: Megan Bickle</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-a-job-architecture-from-scratch-megan-bickle--57178372</link><description><![CDATA[Megan Bickle is the Director of Culture, Employee Engagement and Employee Listening at Western Digital. In Megan’s experience, roles can be viewed as a collection of skills. Viewing roles this way allows organizations to be more responsive to the evolving needs of the business in terms of the skills needed for development and hiring. Megan believes that job architecture is essential to becoming a skills-based organization. Skills were a part of their overall integrated talent management strategy, infused throughout the organization. Capability models and job structures were built in tandem. In this conversation, Megan shares her experience building a skills-based organization as the Global Talent Management and Organizational Development Leader at GE Digital. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Learning more about Megan Bickle [4:45]</li><li>What a skills-based organization is [6:03]</li><li>Why job architecture is important in skills-based organizations [9:04]</li><li>How a capabilities-based architecture works in practice [18:06]</li><li>Accounting for the evolution of the skills themselves [22:13]</li><li>How learning/development dovetails into talent practices [24:34]</li><li>Managing the ownership of the architecture [28:19]</li><li>The lightning round [33:07]</li><li>How the skills effort evolves over time/lessons learned [36:48]</li><li>How people analytics were involved in the process [39:30]</li><li>The strategy for assessing employee skills [42:37]</li><li>Why Megan does the work she does [48:32]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Good to Great</a> by Jim Collins</li></ul>Connect with Megan Bickle<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganbickle/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57178372</guid><pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 05:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/57178372/ws002_1.mp3" length="41693391" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JUGc52VU4INtqoQXPY6Y2mrh265GrwOg/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=116493943714752585006&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Megan Bickle is the Director of Culture, Employee Engagement and Employee Listening at Western Digital. In Megan’s experience, roles can be viewed as a collection of skills. Viewing roles this way allows organizations to be more responsive to the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Megan Bickle is the Director of Culture, Employee Engagement and Employee Listening at Western Digital. In Megan’s experience, roles can be viewed as a collection of skills. Viewing roles this way allows organizations to be more responsive to the evolving needs of the business in terms of the skills needed for development and hiring. Megan believes that job architecture is essential to becoming a skills-based organization. Skills were a part of their overall integrated talent management strategy, infused throughout the organization. Capability models and job structures were built in tandem. In this conversation, Megan shares her experience building a skills-based organization as the Global Talent Management and Organizational Development Leader at GE Digital. <br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Learning more about Megan Bickle [4:45]</li><li>What a skills-based organization is [6:03]</li><li>Why job architecture is important in skills-based organizations [9:04]</li><li>How a capabilities-based architecture works in practice [18:06]</li><li>Accounting for the evolution of the skills themselves [22:13]</li><li>How learning/development dovetails into talent practices [24:34]</li><li>Managing the ownership of the architecture [28:19]</li><li>The lightning round [33:07]</li><li>How the skills effort evolves over time/lessons learned [36:48]</li><li>How people analytics were involved in the process [39:30]</li><li>The strategy for assessing employee skills [42:37]</li><li>Why Megan does the work she does [48:32]</li></ul><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Some-Companies-Others/dp/0066620996" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Good to Great</a> by Jim Collins</li></ul>Connect with Megan Bickle<br /><ul><li>Connect on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/meganbickle/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2975</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>jobarchitecture,meganbickle,redthreadresearch,westerndigital,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/c73ec1ccadf7c39baa3ca15abe06366a.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Skills Odyssey III: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-skills-odyssey-iii-opening-arguments--56846249</link><description><![CDATA[The world of skills is evolving rapidly thanks to technology and data which is why we are devoting yet another season to the skills odyssey. In these opening arguments, you’ll hear how we’ll shape the season, why we’re focusing on skills again, who you can expect to listen to, and what we are most looking forward to. Press play to start a new season of Workplace Stories. <br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56846249</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56846249/ws000a_rev_1.mp3" length="23691388" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M3ZzC1GmmVh2jETa_P3koCS-CyS57cUe/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The world of skills is evolving rapidly thanks to technology and data which is why we are devoting yet another season to the skills odyssey. In these opening arguments, you’ll hear how we’ll shape the season, why we’re focusing on skills again, who...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The world of skills is evolving rapidly thanks to technology and data which is why we are devoting yet another season to the skills odyssey. In these opening arguments, you’ll hear how we’ll shape the season, why we’re focusing on skills again, who you can expect to listen to, and what we are most looking forward to. Press play to start a new season of Workplace Stories. <br /><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>988</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ca04884635548b82412f07149cb98eeb.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Developing Skills to Reach Business Outcomes: Learning Forum’s Brian Hackett and Richardson Consulting’s Brian Richardson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/developing-skills-to-reach-business-outcomes-learning-forum-s-brian-hackett-and-richardson-consulting-s-brian-richardson--56846017</link><description><![CDATA[The importance of creating skills-based organizations is no longer a theoretical discussion: it’s now a practical reality. To ensure that businesses reach their desired outcomes, it is necessary to ensure that their workforce has the skills needed to get the job done.<br /><br />Brian Richardson and Brian Hackett are deeply entrenched in helping business leaders discuss and develop the skills initiatives needed to improve their organizations’ metrics.<br /><br />In this in-the-weeds discussion, we learn from both Brians’ breadth of experience to hear what it takes for businesses to bring skill building to the forefront.<br />Connect with Brian Hackett and Brian Richardson<br /><a href="https://thelearningforum.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56846017</guid><pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56846017/ws001a_rev_1.mp3" length="76074630" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1M3ZzC1GmmVh2jETa_P3koCS-CyS57cUe/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The importance of creating skills-based organizations is no longer a theoretical discussion: it’s now a practical reality. To ensure that businesses reach their desired outcomes, it is necessary to ensure that their workforce has the skills needed to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The importance of creating skills-based organizations is no longer a theoretical discussion: it’s now a practical reality. To ensure that businesses reach their desired outcomes, it is necessary to ensure that their workforce has the skills needed to get the job done.<br /><br />Brian Richardson and Brian Hackett are deeply entrenched in helping business leaders discuss and develop the skills initiatives needed to improve their organizations’ metrics.<br /><br />In this in-the-weeds discussion, we learn from both Brians’ breadth of experience to hear what it takes for businesses to bring skill building to the forefront.<br />Connect with Brian Hackett and Brian Richardson<br /><a href="https://thelearningforum.org/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"></a><br />Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3170</itunes:duration><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a6352714824f28901995494f3dd846a8.jpg"/><itunes:season>10</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Transitioning from a Training Culture to a Learning Culture: Sobeys’ Peter Tulumello </title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/transitioning-from-a-training-culture-to-a-learning-culture-sobeys-peter-tulumello--56546866</link><description><![CDATA[Peter Tulumello is changing the culture at one of Canada’s largest grocery retailers. As a grocery chain, Sobeys has a large segment of frontline workers and with it, their own unique pain points.<br /><br />To understand the problems that the frontline faces, Peter recognized that he needed to get into the stores to understand frontline workers’ day-to-day roles. Listen to this interview to hear how Peter identified major problems and came up with valuable solutions. <br /><b><br /></b><br /><b>Connect with Peter Tulumello<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratulumello/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Peter on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56546866</guid><pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56546866/ws006.mp3" length="39929965" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QXl4nxrRwq-aZGCFqErQbmRxVOpsfOW5/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Peter Tulumello is changing the culture at one of Canada’s largest grocery retailers. As a grocery chain, Sobeys has a large segment of frontline workers and with it, their own unique pain points.

To understand the problems that the frontline faces,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Peter Tulumello is changing the culture at one of Canada’s largest grocery retailers. As a grocery chain, Sobeys has a large segment of frontline workers and with it, their own unique pain points.<br /><br />To understand the problems that the frontline faces, Peter recognized that he needed to get into the stores to understand frontline workers’ day-to-day roles. Listen to this interview to hear how Peter identified major problems and came up with valuable solutions. <br /><b><br /></b><br /><b>Connect with Peter Tulumello<br /></b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/peteratulumello/?originalSubdomain=ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Peter on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /></b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><b><br />Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a></b>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2849</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>frontline,frontlineworkers,petertulumello,redthreadresearch,sobeys,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/68ad5c74d8db1fbcf6449ff79e7f1ade.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Developing the Frontline: General Mills’ Valerie Digman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/developing-the-frontline-general-mills-valerie-digman--56387098</link><description><![CDATA[What happens when a mechanical engineer tackles an L&amp;D problem? A completely redesigned learning environment.<br /><br />On this episode of Workplace Stories, we interview General Mills’ Valerie Digman. Valerie describes how she helped solve a frontline training problem and improved efficiency by 5%.<br /><br />If you’re interested in improving efficiency and rethinking traditional training methods, you won’t want to miss this interview. Press play to learn from Valerie’s experience at General Mills.<br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>The work she does [4:32]</li><li>The difference between [6:15]</li><li>Problem-solving [9:48]</li><li>Process of problem-solving [15:28]</li><li>Lightning round [21:06]</li><li>Strategy to gain 5% in efficiency [23:03]</li><li>What they learned [29:38]</li><li>Their biggest challenges [30:48]</li><li>How to apply more broadly [32:52]</li><li>Working with union vs nonunion [36:46]</li><li>What’s next [39:25]</li><li>Resources for senior leaders [41;50]</li><li>Valerie’s biggest learning experience [43:48]</li><li>Why Valerie does what she does [45:10]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://axonify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Axonify</a></li></ul>Connect with Valerie Digman<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-digman-cptd-sphr-shrm-scp-9098b06/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Valerie Digman on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56387098</guid><pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56387098/ws005.mp3" length="38660455" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1USoUwQc4vQHLiGz3LNb8b2cwKO9TFFYP/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What happens when a mechanical engineer tackles an L&amp;amp;D problem? A completely redesigned learning environment.

On this episode of Workplace Stories, we interview General Mills’ Valerie Digman. Valerie describes how she helped solve a frontline...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What happens when a mechanical engineer tackles an L&amp;D problem? A completely redesigned learning environment.<br /><br />On this episode of Workplace Stories, we interview General Mills’ Valerie Digman. Valerie describes how she helped solve a frontline training problem and improved efficiency by 5%.<br /><br />If you’re interested in improving efficiency and rethinking traditional training methods, you won’t want to miss this interview. Press play to learn from Valerie’s experience at General Mills.<br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<ul><li>The work she does [4:32]</li><li>The difference between [6:15]</li><li>Problem-solving [9:48]</li><li>Process of problem-solving [15:28]</li><li>Lightning round [21:06]</li><li>Strategy to gain 5% in efficiency [23:03]</li><li>What they learned [29:38]</li><li>Their biggest challenges [30:48]</li><li>How to apply more broadly [32:52]</li><li>Working with union vs nonunion [36:46]</li><li>What’s next [39:25]</li><li>Resources for senior leaders [41;50]</li><li>Valerie’s biggest learning experience [43:48]</li><li>Why Valerie does what she does [45:10]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<ul><li><a href="https://axonify.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Axonify</a></li></ul>Connect with Valerie Digman<ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/valerie-digman-cptd-sphr-shrm-scp-9098b06/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Valerie Digman on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2759</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>frontline,frontlineworkers,generalmills,redthreadresearch,valeriedigman,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/63d224887ad767887a64452a7f67730e.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Listening to Frontliners Through Business and Cultural Change: Acuity Brands John Brothers</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/listening-to-frontliners-through-business-and-cultural-change-acuity-brands-john-brothers--56170986</link><description><![CDATA[We’re all humans, so the needs of workers are similar across the board. John Brothers has learned this from his time as VP of Talent at Acuity.<br /><br />On today’s episode of Workplace Stories, John recounts his experience working through Acuity’s cultural and business mindset shift and how that has affected the frontline workforce and beyond.<br /><br /><br />Connect with John Brothers<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-brothers-a877b75/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56170986</guid><pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 10:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56170986/ws004.mp3" length="32761969" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IIcMbuNKHQ0z-j6KbSnBxMbefdHAjO4G/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We’re all humans, so the needs of workers are similar across the board. John Brothers has learned this from his time as VP of Talent at Acuity.

On today’s episode of Workplace Stories, John recounts his experience working through Acuity’s cultural...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We’re all humans, so the needs of workers are similar across the board. John Brothers has learned this from his time as VP of Talent at Acuity.<br /><br />On today’s episode of Workplace Stories, John recounts his experience working through Acuity’s cultural and business mindset shift and how that has affected the frontline workforce and beyond.<br /><br /><br />Connect with John Brothers<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-brothers-a877b75/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">John on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2337</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>acuity,acuitybrands,frontliners,frontlineworkers,johnbrothers,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a66fe788f5b41d4c43278ca3d108a9b9.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Improving the Employee Experience with Different Types of Frontline Workers: Rotana’s Andrew Wolhuter</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/improving-the-employee-experience-with-different-types-of-frontline-workers-rotana-s-andrew-wolhuter--56028848</link><description><![CDATA[Improving the employee experience starts with data. Rotana’s Andrew Wolhunter understands that and uses Rotana’s qualitative data to retain frontline workers in a competitive market.<br /><br />Andrew has an enthusiasm and infectious energy that he not only shares with his coworkers at Rotana, but he also shares this excitement with us on today’s episode. Listen in to learn how Andrew is using data to lead the change in the employee experience at Rotana.<br /><br /><br />Connect with Andrew Wolhunter<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewdoubleu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Andrew on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56028848</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/56028848/ws003a_rev_1.mp3" length="76554239" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1oECmH3cL7GmIgLn83grr_ZXsmguRew8Z/edit?usp=sharing&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Improving the employee experience starts with data. Rotana’s Andrew Wolhunter understands that and uses Rotana’s qualitative data to retain frontline workers in a competitive market.

Andrew has an enthusiasm and infectious energy that he not only...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Improving the employee experience starts with data. Rotana’s Andrew Wolhunter understands that and uses Rotana’s qualitative data to retain frontline workers in a competitive market.<br /><br />Andrew has an enthusiasm and infectious energy that he not only shares with his coworkers at Rotana, but he also shares this excitement with us on today’s episode. Listen in to learn how Andrew is using data to lead the change in the employee experience at Rotana.<br /><br /><br />Connect with Andrew Wolhunter<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewdoubleu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Andrew on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3190</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>andrewwolhunter,frontlineworkers,redthreadresearch,rotanahotels,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a12bf3d3961c4fdb496ca58a7ef30ded.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Gaining Insightful Feedback from Frontline Workers: Cargill’s Tabatha Cronin</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/gaining-insightful-feedback-from-frontline-workers-cargill-s-tabatha-cronin--54827987</link><description><![CDATA[Frontline workers face unique challenges so organizations are making changes to empower them. On this season of Workplace Stories, we’re exploring the unique challenges and positive situations happening on the frontline. <br /><br />On this episode, we chat with Tabatha Cronin to learn how Cargill is supporting its massive frontline labor force. Listen in to learn how Cargill dug in to understand the motivations driving their employees. You won’t want to miss how this changed the way the company approached its solutions.<br /><br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://adamgrant.net/podcasts/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ReThinking</a> - Adam Grant’s podcast</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Think-Again-Power-Knowing-What-ebook/dp/B08H177WQP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2FOBTDK0653SD&amp;keywords=Think+Again&amp;qid=1687393019&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sprefix=think+again%2Cdigital-text%2C198&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Think Again</a> by Adam Grant</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Waste-Crisis-Surviving-Tightropes-ebook/dp/B08SKC1STL" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Never Waste a Crisis</a> by Anne Harbison</li></ul>Connect with Tabatha Cronin<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tabathacleary/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tabatha on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54827987</guid><pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/54827987/ws002a_rev_1.mp3" length="69987682" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SkPhk6-pXY9LBinITHqNdHLc7i4ATeRwuaS-ZnnlOqw/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Frontline workers face unique challenges so organizations are making changes to empower them. On this season of Workplace Stories, we’re exploring the unique challenges and positive situations happening on the frontline. 

On this episode, we chat...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Frontline workers face unique challenges so organizations are making changes to empower them. On this season of Workplace Stories, we’re exploring the unique challenges and positive situations happening on the frontline. <br /><br />On this episode, we chat with Tabatha Cronin to learn how Cargill is supporting its massive frontline labor force. Listen in to learn how Cargill dug in to understand the motivations driving their employees. You won’t want to miss how this changed the way the company approached its solutions.<br /><br /><br />Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li><a href="https://adamgrant.net/podcasts/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ReThinking</a> - Adam Grant’s podcast</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Think-Again-Power-Knowing-What-ebook/dp/B08H177WQP/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2FOBTDK0653SD&amp;keywords=Think+Again&amp;qid=1687393019&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sprefix=think+again%2Cdigital-text%2C198&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Think Again</a> by Adam Grant</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Waste-Crisis-Surviving-Tightropes-ebook/dp/B08SKC1STL" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Never Waste a Crisis</a> by Anne Harbison</li></ul>Connect with Tabatha Cronin<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tabathacleary/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Tabatha on LinkedIn</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2917</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>cargill,frontline,frontlineworkers,redthreadresearch,tabathacronin,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9c9adfea5914865e486b108f78940933.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating Purposeful, Collaborative, Tactical Work on the Frontline: SAP’s Steve Hunt</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-purposeful-collaborative-tactical-work-on-the-frontline-sap-s-steve-hunt--54166286</link><description><![CDATA[Frontline workers can have an outsized influence on the success of an organization. They are often the only interface our customers have with a brand. At RedThread Research, we have been diving into how to support frontline workers more holistically which is why this season we are focusing on the unique challenges that frontline workers face. We’ll also explore the changes organizations are making to empower them, as well as the good things happening on the frontline and how organizations can adapt those practices more broadly.In this episode, we welcome Steve Hunt from SAP. Steve has a unique perspective based on his work as an organizational psychologist in the technology space. This discussion was a fantastic way to open the conversation and sets the bar high for the rest of the season. Don’t miss it; press play now to listen.<br /><br />Connect with Steve Hunt<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steventhunt/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Steve on LinkedIn</a></li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Tectonics-Navigating-Organizations-Reimagining/dp/1119885183" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Talent Tectonics</a> by Steve Hunt</li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54166286</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/54166286/ws001.mp3" length="42092068" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JO3QNiAxkVnEGzv1W1rwLkKSGT1YzN5e/edit?usp=drive_link&amp;amp;ouid=104787252398961848200&amp;amp;rtpof=true&amp;amp;sd=true" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Frontline workers can have an outsized influence on the success of an organization. They are often the only interface our customers have with a brand. At RedThread Research, we have been diving into how to support frontline workers more holistically...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Frontline workers can have an outsized influence on the success of an organization. They are often the only interface our customers have with a brand. At RedThread Research, we have been diving into how to support frontline workers more holistically which is why this season we are focusing on the unique challenges that frontline workers face. We’ll also explore the changes organizations are making to empower them, as well as the good things happening on the frontline and how organizations can adapt those practices more broadly.In this episode, we welcome Steve Hunt from SAP. Steve has a unique perspective based on his work as an organizational psychologist in the technology space. This discussion was a fantastic way to open the conversation and sets the bar high for the rest of the season. Don’t miss it; press play now to listen.<br /><br />Connect with Steve Hunt<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steventhunt/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Steve on LinkedIn</a></li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Tectonics-Navigating-Organizations-Reimagining/dp/1119885183" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Talent Tectonics</a> by Steve Hunt</li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>frontlineworkers,redthreadresearch,sap,stevehunt,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b0e7df23cd46363545068996e4a5b8d2.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Frontline: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-frontline-opening-arguments--54137843</link><description><![CDATA[Welcome back to our ninth season! We are excited about these upcoming episodes. In this season, Stacia and I focus on the frontline by discussing frontline workers with thought leaders from many organizations across various industries.<br /><br />Frontline workers have typically been a part of the workforce that has been swept under the rug, but during the pandemic, they were thrust to the forefront of people’s minds.<br /><br />In this season, we’ll discuss how to define a frontline worker, how to lead them, how to engage with them, and how to help them plan their career path.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Why we chose this topic for our 9th season [2:32]</li><li>What frontline workers are [3:38]</li><li>What has shifted for frontline workers [8:10]</li><li>Themes of this season [10:10]</li><li>What we’re looking forward to learning [13:12]</li><li>How this season aligns with our research [16:26]</li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54137843</guid><pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/54137843/ws000.mp3" length="15128111" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JRNmnpquFwOIX3oAhf3bD4L_fzTOzi_dNXEMUz2_f7k/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Welcome back to our ninth season! We are excited about these upcoming episodes. In this season, Stacia and I focus on the frontline by discussing frontline workers with thought leaders from many organizations across various industries.

Frontline...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Welcome back to our ninth season! We are excited about these upcoming episodes. In this season, Stacia and I focus on the frontline by discussing frontline workers with thought leaders from many organizations across various industries.<br /><br />Frontline workers have typically been a part of the workforce that has been swept under the rug, but during the pandemic, they were thrust to the forefront of people’s minds.<br /><br />In this season, we’ll discuss how to define a frontline worker, how to lead them, how to engage with them, and how to help them plan their career path.<br /><br />You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>Why we chose this topic for our 9th season [2:32]</li><li>What frontline workers are [3:38]</li><li>What has shifted for frontline workers [8:10]</li><li>Themes of this season [10:10]</li><li>What we’re looking forward to learning [13:12]</li><li>How this season aligns with our research [16:26]</li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1078</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>frontlineworkers,redthreadresearch,thefrontline,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/f2b4a4ceca532055c7148e9b1483688f.jpg"/><itunes:season>9</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating Intentional Leadership: AAFP’s Paula Matthews</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-intentional-leadership-aafp-s-paula-matthews--53470951</link><description><![CDATA[A lot has changed for managers and organizations over the last three years. So, what can be done to successfully navigate those changes so that managers can be successful and organizations can continue to thrive?<br /><br />The American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) is designing a new framework for their managers to help them better understand what they can be doing to intentionally lead their staff.<br /><br />This inspiring conversation with Paula Matthews from AAFP is a fantastic way to wrap up our Making Managing Manageable series.<br /><br />If you are just wrapping up season eight, now is a great time to subscribe to the podcast. You can get even more RedThread content by <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">joining our membership community</a>. Try it out for free for seven days to see what we’re all about!You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>The rapid-fire questions [5:32]</li><li>Paula’s role at AAFP [9:17]</li><li>What has changed for managers over the last three years [10:10]</li><li>What managers will return to [14:00]</li><li>What sets good managers and not-so-good managers apart [15:40]</li><li>Why managers are struggling today [18:24]</li><li>AAFP’s new manager framework [20:20]</li><li>How they implement their training framework [26:25]</li><li>How to empower employees to take control of their tasks [27:33]</li><li>The lightning round questions [34:19]</li><li>The role of leadership development [35:45]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Season 0 - <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Purpose Working?</a></li></ul>Connect with Paula Matthews<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.aafp.org/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AAFP</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53470951</guid><pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/53470951/ws006.mp3" length="37620689" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/18eMyjjV7NCIvLvBxxDrtx9vwzUWr0o0yJVMdn11rJjA/edit?usp=sharing" type="text/plain" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>A lot has changed for managers and organizations over the last three years. So, what can be done to successfully navigate those changes so that managers can be successful and organizations can continue to thrive?

The American Academy of Family...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A lot has changed for managers and organizations over the last three years. So, what can be done to successfully navigate those changes so that managers can be successful and organizations can continue to thrive?<br /><br />The American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) is designing a new framework for their managers to help them better understand what they can be doing to intentionally lead their staff.<br /><br />This inspiring conversation with Paula Matthews from AAFP is a fantastic way to wrap up our Making Managing Manageable series.<br /><br />If you are just wrapping up season eight, now is a great time to subscribe to the podcast. You can get even more RedThread content by <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">joining our membership community</a>. Try it out for free for seven days to see what we’re all about!You will want to hear this episode if you are interested in...<br /><ul><li>The rapid-fire questions [5:32]</li><li>Paula’s role at AAFP [9:17]</li><li>What has changed for managers over the last three years [10:10]</li><li>What managers will return to [14:00]</li><li>What sets good managers and not-so-good managers apart [15:40]</li><li>Why managers are struggling today [18:24]</li><li>AAFP’s new manager framework [20:20]</li><li>How they implement their training framework [26:25]</li><li>How to empower employees to take control of their tasks [27:33]</li><li>The lightning round questions [34:19]</li><li>The role of leadership development [35:45]</li></ul>Resources &amp; People Mentioned<br /><ul><li>Season 0 - <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Purpose Working?</a></li></ul>Connect with Paula Matthews<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.aafp.org/home.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">AAFP</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2685</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aafp,intentionalleadership,paulamatthews,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/defcd22b7810a95081d66ff8dde655be.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Questioning Convention in the Workplace: Moderna’s Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe</title><link>https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/questioning-convention-in-the-workplace-modernas-noah-rabinowitz-and-nkiruka-ogbuchiekwe/</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories we talked to Moderna’s Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe. We explore ways that managers and other leaders can question conventionality by recognizing and thinking through false dichotomies. Listen in to hear how Moderna is building its systems by putting its company culture first and by constantly questioning traditional ways of doing things. <br /><br /><b></b><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/questioning-convention-in-the-workplace-modernas-noah-rabinowitz-and-nkiruka-ogbuchiekwe/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman-ebook/dp/B00555X8OA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AJ5I8YC4TGQE&amp;keywords=Thinking+Fast+and+Slow&amp;qid=1679579598&amp;sprefix=thinking+fast+and+slow%2Caps%2C331&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thinking Fast and Slow</a> by Daniel Kahneman</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Night&amp;crid=1Q0IRB82ITDQ4&amp;sprefix=night%2Caps%2C271&amp;ref=nb_sb_noss_2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Night</a> by Elie Wiesel</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Professionalizing-Leadership-Barbara-Kellerman-ebook/dp/B0791KQY6R/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35GEN0PTN9PHO&amp;keywords=Professionalizing+Leadership&amp;qid=1679580450&amp;sprefix=professionalizing+leadership%2Caps%2C159&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Professionalizing Leadership</a> by Barbara Kellerman</li><li>Check out season 0 - <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Purpose Working?</a></li><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/final-report-the-purpose-driven-organization-hrs-opportunity-during-crisis-beyond" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread's Purpose Research</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/noahgrabinowitz/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Noah on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nkiruka-elena-ogbuchiekwe-7a147591/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nkiruka on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.modernatx.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Moderna</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53324006</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/53324006/ws005a.mp3" length="51509333" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968/67fc27c2-d7f1-465c-8e78-ad8fb080c968.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Workplace Stories we talked to Moderna’s Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe. We explore ways that managers and other leaders can question conventionality by recognizing and thinking through false dichotomies. Listen in to hear...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this episode of Workplace Stories we talked to Moderna’s Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe. We explore ways that managers and other leaders can question conventionality by recognizing and thinking through false dichotomies. Listen in to hear how Moderna is building its systems by putting its company culture first and by constantly questioning traditional ways of doing things. <br /><br /><b></b><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/questioning-convention-in-the-workplace-modernas-noah-rabinowitz-and-nkiruka-ogbuchiekwe/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman-ebook/dp/B00555X8OA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AJ5I8YC4TGQE&amp;keywords=Thinking+Fast+and+Slow&amp;qid=1679579598&amp;sprefix=thinking+fast+and+slow%2Caps%2C331&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Thinking Fast and Slow</a> by Daniel Kahneman</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Night&amp;crid=1Q0IRB82ITDQ4&amp;sprefix=night%2Caps%2C271&amp;ref=nb_sb_noss_2" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Night</a> by Elie Wiesel</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Professionalizing-Leadership-Barbara-Kellerman-ebook/dp/B0791KQY6R/ref=sr_1_1?crid=35GEN0PTN9PHO&amp;keywords=Professionalizing+Leadership&amp;qid=1679580450&amp;sprefix=professionalizing+leadership%2Caps%2C159&amp;sr=8-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Professionalizing Leadership</a> by Barbara Kellerman</li><li>Check out season 0 - <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-podcast/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Is Purpose Working?</a></li><li><a href="https://members.redthreadresearch.com/posts/final-report-the-purpose-driven-organization-hrs-opportunity-during-crisis-beyond" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">RedThread's Purpose Research</a></li></ul><br /><b>Connect with Noah Rabinowitz and Nkiruka Ogbuchiekwe</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/noahgrabinowitz/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Noah on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/nkiruka-elena-ogbuchiekwe-7a147591/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Nkiruka on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.modernatx.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Moderna</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3220</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>moderna,nkirukaogbuchiekwe,noahrabinowitz,questioningconvention,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/aa72d5f943ac540af0d00c0b0bee39cd.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How Organizations Can Make Data-Driven Changes that Benefit Everyone: Affirm’s Kaitlyn Mathews</title><link>https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-organizations-can-make-data-driven-changes-that-benefit-everyone-affirms-kaitlyn-mathews/</link><description><![CDATA[On this episode of Workplace Stories, Affirm’s Feedback and Development Lead, Kaitlyn Mathews, describes how her organization uses its data to drive changes within the company. Kaitlyn also touches on their delivery systems, the HR relationship with managers, using tech to strategize, and how she uses her role to help others realize their capabilities. <br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-organizations-can-make-data-driven-changes-that-benefit-everyone-affirms-kaitlyn-mathews/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1250067057" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Extreme Ownership</a> by Jocko Willink</li></ul><b>Connect with Kaitlyn Mathews</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlynmathews" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kaitlyn Mathews on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!<br />]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53154552</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/53154552/ws004.mp3" length="45781068" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488/e6648a76-e8e8-4ed7-878c-21d99709e488.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>On this episode of Workplace Stories, Affirm’s Feedback and Development Lead, Kaitlyn Mathews, describes how her organization uses its data to drive changes within the company. Kaitlyn also touches on their delivery systems, the HR relationship with...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[On this episode of Workplace Stories, Affirm’s Feedback and Development Lead, Kaitlyn Mathews, describes how her organization uses its data to drive changes within the company. Kaitlyn also touches on their delivery systems, the HR relationship with managers, using tech to strategize, and how she uses her role to help others realize their capabilities. <br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-organizations-can-make-data-driven-changes-that-benefit-everyone-affirms-kaitlyn-mathews/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Extreme-Ownership-U-S-Navy-SEALs/dp/1250067057" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Extreme Ownership</a> by Jocko Willink</li></ul><b>Connect with Kaitlyn Mathews</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaitlynmathews" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Kaitlyn Mathews on LinkedIn</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!<br />]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3267</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>affirm,datadrivenchanges,kaitlynmathews,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bad50d21562d94c69652ee71023c142f.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building Connection and Community Through Leadership: WGU’s Sara Reed</title><link>https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/building-connection-and-community-through-leadership-wgus-sara-reed/</link><description><![CDATA[In this conversation, we speak to Sara Reed, Vice President of People and Talent at Western Governors University. We discuss what struck her about what senior leadership is doing to support managers within her organization, how building connections and community actually helps to support accountability, and why it is important to analyze the reasons that people choose to lead.<br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/building-connection-and-community-through-leadership-wgus-sara-reed/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Waymakers-Clearing-Workplace-Competence-Confidence/dp/1637551800" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Waymakers</a> Tara J. Frank</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Work-Something-Has-Change/dp/B0BPN62FV3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PEC7U9ING73T&amp;keywords=Dear+Work&amp;qid=1677266332&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=dear+work%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C152&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dear Work: Something Has to Change</a> by Sara Ross</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Magic-Alice-Hoffman-audiobook/dp/B00A2ATKX6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HTP5YYWWKEHW&amp;keywords=Practical+magic&amp;qid=1677266398&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=practical+magic%2Caudible%2C156&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Practical Magic</a> by Alice Hoffman</li><li>BOOK SERIES -<a href="http://www.dianagabaldon.com/books/outlander-series/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> The Outlanders</a> by Diana Gabaldon</li><li><a href="https://brenebrown.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brene Brown</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Sara Ree</b>d<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarareededd" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sara Reed on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wgu.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Western Governors University</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52842668</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52842668/ws003.mp3" length="40261974" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8/54966490-38c0-4f59-b001-789583b25af8.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this conversation, we speak to Sara Reed, Vice President of People and Talent at Western Governors University. We discuss what struck her about what senior leadership is doing to support managers within her organization, how building connections...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In this conversation, we speak to Sara Reed, Vice President of People and Talent at Western Governors University. We discuss what struck her about what senior leadership is doing to support managers within her organization, how building connections and community actually helps to support accountability, and why it is important to analyze the reasons that people choose to lead.<br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/building-connection-and-community-through-leadership-wgus-sara-reed/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b><br /><ul><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Waymakers-Clearing-Workplace-Competence-Confidence/dp/1637551800" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">The Waymakers</a> Tara J. Frank</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dear-Work-Something-Has-Change/dp/B0BPN62FV3/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2PEC7U9ING73T&amp;keywords=Dear+Work&amp;qid=1677266332&amp;s=books&amp;sprefix=dear+work%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C152&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dear Work: Something Has to Change</a> by Sara Ross</li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Magic-Alice-Hoffman-audiobook/dp/B00A2ATKX6/ref=sr_1_1?crid=HTP5YYWWKEHW&amp;keywords=Practical+magic&amp;qid=1677266398&amp;s=audible&amp;sprefix=practical+magic%2Caudible%2C156&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Practical Magic</a> by Alice Hoffman</li><li>BOOK SERIES -<a href="http://www.dianagabaldon.com/books/outlander-series/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> The Outlanders</a> by Diana Gabaldon</li><li><a href="https://brenebrown.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Brene Brown</a></li></ul><b>Connect with Sara Ree</b>d<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarareededd" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Sara Reed on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.wgu.edu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Western Governors University</a></li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2873</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>buildingaccountability,buildingcommunity,buildingconnection,redthreadresearch,sarareed,westerngovernors,wgu,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bffc45b7d21cc62c8c6237430af0e9d4.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>How to Build Systems to Enhance the Manager Experience: Morningstar’s Mary Slaughter</title><link>https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-to-build-systems-to-enhance-the-manager-experience-morningstars-mary-slaughter/</link><description><![CDATA[Mary brings years of experience to Morningstar and on this episode of Workplace Stories, she explains how the manager and employee experiences are tied together. As you listen, you’ll be fascinated by the way that Morningstar conducted research to identify and define concrete sentiments that would improve the employee experience. <br /><br /><b><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-to-build-systems-to-enhance-the-manager-experience-morningstars-mary-slaughter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn More</a></b><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><br />Connect with Mary Slaughter<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryslaughter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mary on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morningstar</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52687351</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 07:00:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52687351/ws002_2.mp3" length="37275611" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3/2c019264-7542-4cc5-8180-813d59e2f6c3.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Mary brings years of experience to Morningstar and on this episode of Workplace Stories, she explains how the manager and employee experiences are tied together. As you listen, you’ll be fascinated by the way that Morningstar conducted research to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Mary brings years of experience to Morningstar and on this episode of Workplace Stories, she explains how the manager and employee experiences are tied together. As you listen, you’ll be fascinated by the way that Morningstar conducted research to identify and define concrete sentiments that would improve the employee experience. <br /><br /><b><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/how-to-build-systems-to-enhance-the-manager-experience-morningstars-mary-slaughter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn More</a></b><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><br /><br />Connect with Mary Slaughter<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/maryslaughter/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Mary on LinkedIn</a></li><li><a href="https://www.morningstar.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Morningstar</a></li></ul>Connect With Red Thread Research<br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul>Subscribe to <a href="https://pod.link/1554931884" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">WORKPLACE STORIES</a>]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2660</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>enhancemanagerexperience,managerexperience,maryslaughter,morningstar,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/23959e450ac23a68a7382b760c7356b0.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Innovative Ways to Support Managers So They Can Lead Effectively: NVA's Clint Kofford</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/innovative-ways-to-support-managers-so-they-can-lead-effectively-nva-s-clint-kofford--52588393</link><description><![CDATA[<i>Clint Kofford, the Vice President of Talent with National Veterinary Associates, has a unique perspective on what it means to be a leader in today’s changing landscape. With extensive experience in numerous multinational companies, Clint is a thought leader in this space. His fascinating viewpoints caused us both to stop and think and even changed our minds about certain issues. Press play to hear what they are and to see if his views might broaden your perspective.</i><br /><i> </i><br /><i><b></b></i><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/innovative-ways-to-support-managers-so-they-can-lead-effectively-nvas-clint-kofford/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b><br /></b><br /><b>Connect with Clint Kofford</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckofford" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Clint on LinkedIn</a></li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Meaningful-Change-Leadership-Transforming/dp/1950043495" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creating Meaningful Change</a> by Clint Kofford</li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52588393</guid><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52588393/ws001.mp3" length="43589937" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a/8eeb74ea-58b1-4a37-9468-e17f560d2e7a.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Clint Kofford, the Vice President of Talent with National Veterinary Associates, has a unique perspective on what it means to be a leader in today’s changing landscape. With extensive experience in numerous multinational companies, Clint is a thought...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[<i>Clint Kofford, the Vice President of Talent with National Veterinary Associates, has a unique perspective on what it means to be a leader in today’s changing landscape. With extensive experience in numerous multinational companies, Clint is a thought leader in this space. His fascinating viewpoints caused us both to stop and think and even changed our minds about certain issues. Press play to hear what they are and to see if his views might broaden your perspective.</i><br /><i> </i><br /><i><b></b></i><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/innovative-ways-to-support-managers-so-they-can-lead-effectively-nvas-clint-kofford/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b><br /></b><br /><b>Connect with Clint Kofford</b><br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ckofford" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Connect with Clint on LinkedIn</a></li><li>BOOK - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Meaningful-Change-Leadership-Transforming/dp/1950043495" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creating Meaningful Change</a> by Clint Kofford</li></ul><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3114</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>clintkofford,nationalveteranaryassociates,redthreadresearch,supportmanagers,systems,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/9b6563c3376e645117fcacc6620d98fc.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Making Managing Manageable: Opening Arguments </title><link>https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/making-managing-manageable-opening-arguments/</link><description><![CDATA[A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—listen as we focus on what it actually means to be a manager in 2023.<br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/making-managing-manageable-opening-arguments/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b></b><br /><ul><li>BOOK – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Meaningful-Change-Leadership-Transforming/dp/1950043495" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creating Meaningful Change</a> by Clint Kofford</li></ul><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br /><br /><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52588254</guid><pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52588254/ws000.mp3" length="11027368" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4/3a4dc8fe-ea68-4e0d-a76c-b5ca938903b4.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—listen as we focus on what it actually means to be a manager in 2023.

https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/making-managing-manageable-opening-arguments/

End-of-Season Webinar

Don't miss our...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—listen as we focus on what it actually means to be a manager in 2023.<br /><br /><a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/podcast/making-managing-manageable-opening-arguments/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Learn more</a><br /><br /><i><b>End-of-Season Webinar</b></i><br /><br />Don't miss our season recap, where we will summarize key themes, share critical insights and anecdotes, and identify our questions on how to make managing more manageable.<br /><br /><b><a href="https://hubs.ly/Q01JlTzg0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Register today</a></b><br /><b></b><br /><b><b>Resources &amp; People Mentioned</b></b><br /><ul><li>BOOK – <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Creating-Meaningful-Change-Leadership-Transforming/dp/1950043495" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Creating Meaningful Change</a> by Clint Kofford</li></ul><br /><b>Connect With Red Thread Research</b><br /><ul><li>Website: <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Red Thread Research</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/redthread-research/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">LinkedIn</a></li><li>On <a href="https://www.facebook.com/redthreadresearch" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Facebook</a></li><li>On <a href="https://twitter.com/redthreadre" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Twitter</a></li></ul><br /><br /><br />Want full access to the episode's transcript? <a href="https://redthreadresearch.com/rtr-membership/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Try our RTR membership</a> with a 7-day trial. Listen to our top episodes, explore cutting-edge research, attend exclusive member-only events, and share with a top-notch cohort community of industry leaders and peers. Take it for a spin!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>788</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>makingmanagingmanageable,redthreadresearch,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/d86bfab04a7d1cf3e127e59706a639bc.jpg"/><itunes:season>8</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>If You Don’t Have The Data, You Can’t Do The EX: Workday’s Phil Willburn</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/if-you-don-t-have-the-data-you-can-t-do-the-ex-workday-s-phil-willburn--52152184</link><description><![CDATA[Phil Willburn—our Season Sponsor Workday’s Vice President, People Analytics—makes a very welcome second appearance on ‘Workplace Stories,’ where he shares genuinely useful EX best practice. Does he have the definitive answer to our question, Evolution or Revolution? Listen to decide.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52152184</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2022 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52152184/rtr_s7_e6_phil_willburn.mp3" length="56905604" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8/3fd8ef8f-4874-4a35-84d8-9960a80e82e8.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Phil Willburn—our Season Sponsor Workday’s Vice President, People Analytics—makes a very welcome second appearance on ‘Workplace Stories,’ where he shares genuinely useful EX best practice. Does he have the definitive answer to our question, Evolution...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Phil Willburn—our Season Sponsor Workday’s Vice President, People Analytics—makes a very welcome second appearance on ‘Workplace Stories,’ where he shares genuinely useful EX best practice. Does he have the definitive answer to our question, Evolution or Revolution? Listen to decide.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3557</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employeexperience,philwillburn,redthreadresearch,workday,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/34f0da887bf047674851a09793b19414.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Yes, Even EX Has To Be Systematized: Marriott International's Jessica Lee</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/yes-even-ex-has-to-be-systematized-marriott-international-s-jessica-lee--52097040</link><description><![CDATA[Jessica Lee, SVP of Global Talent Development at Marriott International & The Ritz-Carlton Leadership Center, shares her insights into how to create a consistent and supportive EX across the hotel giant’s 30-plus brands.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52097040</guid><pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2022 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/52097040/rtr_jessica_lee_s7_e5.mp3" length="62439384" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071/50d8815b-182e-48db-9668-d8d1f2b31071.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Jessica Lee, SVP of Global Talent Development at Marriott International &amp; The Ritz-Carlton Leadership Center, shares her insights into how to create a consistent and supportive EX across the hotel giant’s 30-plus brands.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Jessica Lee, SVP of Global Talent Development at Marriott International & The Ritz-Carlton Leadership Center, shares her insights into how to create a consistent and supportive EX across the hotel giant’s 30-plus brands.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3903</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employeeexperience,jessicalee,marriott,redthreadresearch,workday,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/35a00a2894ade2502349b412f7595df5.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why We Need to Rip Out and Replace the Employee Experience: Meta’s Kelly Monahan</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-we-need-to-rip-out-and-replace-the-employee-experience-meta-s-kelly-monahan--51849705</link><description><![CDATA[If Meta wants us all to work at least some of the time in a Metaverse, it probably wants to figure out what the right Employee Experience is to get there. Kelly Monahan's making sure that happens.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51849705</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2022 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51849705/rtr_s7_e4_kelly_monahan_meta.mp3" length="51058355" type="audio/mpeg"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d.srt" type="application/x-subrip" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d.txt" type="text/plain" language="en"/><podcast:transcript url="https://transcription.spreaker.com/sounder/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d/5f7a22e3-bfb1-4446-aa0d-6dbe7d52873d.vtt" type="text/vtt" language="en"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>If Meta wants us all to work at least some of the time in a Metaverse, it probably wants to figure out what the right Employee Experience is to get there. Kelly Monahan's making sure that happens.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[If Meta wants us all to work at least some of the time in a Metaverse, it probably wants to figure out what the right Employee Experience is to get there. Kelly Monahan's making sure that happens.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3192</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>employeeexperience,kellymonahan,meta,redthreadresearch,workday,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1af578c828c23883533adf0d8c6b867f.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Both Little ‘E’ and Big ‘E’ Employee Experience Count: Eskalera’s Dane Holmes</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-both-little-e-and-big-e-employee-experience-count-eskalera-s-dane-holmes--51713388</link><description><![CDATA[Former Goldman CPO Dane Holmes wants to remind us all of a huge truth: processes may end—but people don’t (you don’t stop learning once you’ve completed your module). So why don’t we look at Employee Experience that way?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51713388</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2022 08:00:01 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51713388/rtr_s7_e3_dane_holmes.mp3" length="50559730" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Former Goldman CPO Dane Holmes wants to remind us all of a huge truth: processes may end—but people don’t (you don’t stop learning once you’ve completed your module). So why don’t we look at Employee Experience that way?</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Former Goldman CPO Dane Holmes wants to remind us all of a huge truth: processes may end—but people don’t (you don’t stop learning once you’ve completed your module). So why don’t we look at Employee Experience that way?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3160</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>daneholmes,employeeexperience,eskelera,redthreadresearch,workday,workplacestories</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/0f911fd141838b9d2b89b29bf02e2905.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why Learning Is the Engine of Employee Experience: Walmart’s Brandon Carson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-learning-is-the-engine-of-employee-experience-walmart-s-brandon-carson--51618406</link><description><![CDATA[For Vice President of Learning and Leadership at Walmart Brandon Carson, the systems we put in place ARE the employee experience. And if we want to change that, we need to help not just the cognitive worker, but that often-neglected other constituency in the EX debate—their physical worker equivalents.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51618406</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2022 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51618406/rtr_s7_e2_brandon_carson_with_cut.mp3" length="40810414" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For Vice President of Learning and Leadership at Walmart Brandon Carson, the systems we put in place ARE the employee experience. And if we want to change that, we need to help not just the cognitive worker, but that often-neglected other constituency...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[For Vice President of Learning and Leadership at Walmart Brandon Carson, the systems we put in place ARE the employee experience. And if we want to change that, we need to help not just the cognitive worker, but that often-neglected other constituency in the EX debate—their physical worker equivalents.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2551</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aligningcognitivephysicalwork,brandoncarsonhrauthor,brandoncarsonwalmart,digitalemployeeexperience,employeeexperience,ex,leadership,peopleandchange,redthreadresearch,workday</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/adbe33cec162f7a7c934035e4e15658b.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>You Can't Change EX Without Understanding People: Author Ashley Goodall</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/you-can-t-change-ex-without-understanding-people-author-ashley-goodall--51534001</link><description><![CDATA[For leadership expert and author Ashley Goodall, we get the employee experience consistently wrong because we just don’t want to look at the way humans really are out-of-the-box. Is he right?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51534001</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51534001/rtr_s7_e1_ashley_goodall_edited_version.mp3" length="52615253" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For leadership expert and author Ashley Goodall, we get the employee experience consistently wrong because we just don’t want to look at the way humans really are out-of-the-box. Is he right?</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[For leadership expert and author Ashley Goodall, we get the employee experience consistently wrong because we just don’t want to look at the way humans really are out-of-the-box. Is he right?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3289</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>ashleygoodallbusinessauthor,digitalemployeeexperience,employeexperience,ex,leadership,nineliesaboutwork,peopleandchange,redthreadresearch,workday</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/55116364f4a9767af2f6e0dc3cba0275.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Employee Experience (R)evolution: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-employee-experience-r-evolution-opening-arguments--51572859</link><description><![CDATA[A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—a deep dive into where we really are with EX right now.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51572859</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Oct 2022 06:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51572859/rtr_season_7_intro_and_over_view.mp3" length="14471044" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—a deep dive into where we really are with EX right now.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A scene-setter for our latest set of Workplace Stories—a deep dive into where we really are with EX right now.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>905</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>digitalemployeeexperience,employeeexperience,ex,hr,leadership,redthreadresearch,workday</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/88eca6a4d4a31c0a4cac30140229366f.jpg"/><itunes:season>7</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>If We Don’t Connect, The Work Will Get Done—But It'll Never Be Great: Pretaa's Michael Madon</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/if-we-don-t-connect-the-work-will-get-done-but-it-ll-never-be-great-pretaa-s-michael-madon--51076331</link><description><![CDATA[With a unique combination of experience across the worlds of the military, non-profit, government and commercial sector, mobile health entrepreneur Michael Madon shares what years of trying to make connection happen in organizations has taught him.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51076331</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 08:00:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51076331/rtr_s6_e5_michael_madon_2.mp3" length="48682257" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>With a unique combination of experience across the worlds of the military, non-profit, government and commercial sector, mobile health entrepreneur Michael Madon shares what years of trying to make connection happen in organizations has taught him.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[With a unique combination of experience across the worlds of the military, non-profit, government and commercial sector, mobile health entrepreneur Michael Madon shares what years of trying to make connection happen in organizations has taught him.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3043</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>leadership,michaelmadon,peopleanalytics,pretaa,redthreadresearch,thegreatreconnection,torch,workplaceconnection,workplaceconnectiontechniques</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5ed90c054b4f66406f6d4dd946e5924c.jpg"/><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Using Connection To Build Successful Cultures: Udemy’s Melissa Daimler</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/using-connection-to-build-successful-cultures-udemy-s-melissa-daimler--51229058</link><description><![CDATA[In this episode, CLO at online education leader Udemy Melissa Daimler—who recently published a new book on making workplace reconnection work, ‘ReCulturing’—sits down with Chris and Stacia to detail practical steps on making our new complex workplaces human once again.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51229058</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/51229058/rtr_melissa_dieamla.mp3" length="52015900" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; 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Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week we sat down with Gretchen Murphy, CHRO of data center services specialist Service Express, to hear how only ever adding people who fit your culture but then constantly supporting them through conscious Reconnecting techniques really delivers.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week we sat down with Gretchen Murphy, CHRO of data center services specialist Service Express, to hear how only ever adding people who fit your culture but then constantly supporting them through conscious Reconnecting techniques really delivers.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3006</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>gretchenmurphyserviceexpress,redthreadresearch,serviceexpress,thegreatreconnection,torch,workplaceconnection,workplaceconnectiontechniques</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/684901cda166f2aa658182503f240ddc.jpg"/><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Unsucking The Workplace Through Connection: Airtable’s Jessica Amortegui</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/unsucking-the-workplace-through-connection-airtable-s-jessica-amortegui--50723773</link><description><![CDATA[Based out of San Francisco, Airtable is a fast-growing software product company with a mission to democratize software creation. It says it’s doing that by enabling anyone to build the tools that meet their needs, but is that focus on openness and collaboration talk or walk? <br /><br />In this next debate on how to make reconnecting real, we find out from a great conversation with the company’s Global Talent Development Leader, Jessica Amortegui, who has a lot to say about walking the walk—from the way her company is really taking on the problem of connection at the individual, human level, but also how to better facilitate connecting with others on a one-on-one, team, and entire organizational level. <br /><br />Even more interestingly; that happens on both the virtual (90% of her fellow ‘Airtablets’ joined during the pandemic) but also on the physical level—and as you’ll also hear, gets instantiated with well-thought-out and battle-tested role tools and exercises, which we’re delighted to say some of which Jess has shared with listeners. She also has some very useful things to say about the demonstrable value of all this even the most results-focused managers and connection ‘skeptics’ find persuasive. <br /><br />Finally, we loved her persuading us about the importance of connection in the flow of one's day-to-day work—making connecting not some special thing that you do in parallel but can be structured to be part of any meeting if you want it to be. All in all, so many great soundbites—but if you want just one, how about, “The thing I would love to switch about our workplaces is how many of us end the day exhausted and feeling de-energized. Why does it have to be that way?” Abso-tootle!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50723773</guid><pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/50723773/rtr_s6_e3_jessica_amortegui.mp3" length="49939897" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Based out of San Francisco, Airtable is a fast-growing software product company with a mission to democratize software creation. It says it’s doing that by enabling anyone to build the tools that meet their needs, but is that focus on openness and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Based out of San Francisco, Airtable is a fast-growing software product company with a mission to democratize software creation. It says it’s doing that by enabling anyone to build the tools that meet their needs, but is that focus on openness and collaboration talk or walk? <br /><br />In this next debate on how to make reconnecting real, we find out from a great conversation with the company’s Global Talent Development Leader, Jessica Amortegui, who has a lot to say about walking the walk—from the way her company is really taking on the problem of connection at the individual, human level, but also how to better facilitate connecting with others on a one-on-one, team, and entire organizational level. <br /><br />Even more interestingly; that happens on both the virtual (90% of her fellow ‘Airtablets’ joined during the pandemic) but also on the physical level—and as you’ll also hear, gets instantiated with well-thought-out and battle-tested role tools and exercises, which we’re delighted to say some of which Jess has shared with listeners. She also has some very useful things to say about the demonstrable value of all this even the most results-focused managers and connection ‘skeptics’ find persuasive. <br /><br />Finally, we loved her persuading us about the importance of connection in the flow of one's day-to-day work—making connecting not some special thing that you do in parallel but can be structured to be part of any meeting if you want it to be. All in all, so many great soundbites—but if you want just one, how about, “The thing I would love to switch about our workplaces is how many of us end the day exhausted and feeling de-energized. Why does it have to be that way?” Abso-tootle!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3122</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>airtable,jessicaamorteguiairtable,redthreadresearch,thegreatreconnection,torch,workplaceconnection,workplaceconnectiontechniques</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/fb09ab0f6e3364935ee50b946a608308.jpg"/><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reconnecting Via Purpose And Continual Career Conversations: UCHealth’s Matt Gosney</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reconnecting-via-purpose-and-continual-career-conversations-uchealth-s-matt-gosney--50694136</link><description><![CDATA[For our second conversation about The Great Reconnection, we sat down with Matt Gosney, Vice President, Organizational Development at UCHealth, a major Denver-based healthcare provider that’s grown rapidly in the past few years. To make that growth work, the organization has been consciously doing as much as it can to enable connection and growth. We wanted to know more, so got Matt on to hear why connection and growth are now seen as critical to UC Health's employment value proposition, and also a significantly contributor to recruiting and retention. We also talk about how some of UC Health's previous talent processes, especially performance management, weren’t really helping on the connection part, and what Matt and his team did about it. A powerful new concept that’s proving really helpful is supporting managers to have what UCHealth calls ‘career conversations’ with every single employee has unleashed a tidal wave of connection, engagement, and contribution. An unintended but very welcome consequences of that work have been a dramatic improvement in talent pipeline diversity and a more organic (and thus, successful) approach to DEIB. We conclude with a story about lifetime-long transferrable skills that nearly wraps one of our most fun yet also thoughtful conversations for a while. The one key quote? “Connection is a baseline antecedent to progress and delivery of results.” Sounds bang on to us.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50694136</guid><pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/50694136/rtr_s6_e2_matt_gosney.mp3" length="46484210" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For our second conversation about The Great Reconnection, we sat down with Matt Gosney, Vice President, Organizational Development at UCHealth, a major Denver-based healthcare provider that’s grown rapidly in the past few years. 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A powerful new concept that’s proving really helpful is supporting managers to have what UCHealth calls ‘career conversations’ with every single employee has unleashed a tidal wave of connection, engagement, and contribution. An unintended but very welcome consequences of that work have been a dramatic improvement in talent pipeline diversity and a more organic (and thus, successful) approach to DEIB. We conclude with a story about lifetime-long transferrable skills that nearly wraps one of our most fun yet also thoughtful conversations for a while. The one key quote? “Connection is a baseline antecedent to progress and delivery of results.” Sounds bang on to us.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2906</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>careerconversations,mattgosneyuchealth,redthreadresearch,thegreatreconnection,torch,uchealth</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a39a07442fd0dc5605244ee93c605b20.jpg"/><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Reconnecting Without Being Bad-Bossy: HR Thinker Liz Wiseman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/reconnecting-without-being-bad-bossy-hr-thinker-liz-wiseman--50555297</link><description><![CDATA[We start our new S6 of Workplace Stories with an overview of the theme of the Season, how it links to the previous five, then talk to Liz Wiseman, CEO of the Wiseman Group and author of New York Times bestseller about how leaders can build connections to and between people, and more broadly to the organization, 'Multipliers.'  As we hear, Liz’s purpose is to make work better for everyone by creating organizations where great leaders multiply intelligence, rather than draining it from the organization. What inspires Liz is working with and watching senior leaders to learn what good leadership looks like, and how anyone can be a smart leader that doesn’t shut down smarts of others. We then hear her views on how at present, many organizations are in the process of trying to recover from a period of enormous disconnection. Now, in a world of Hybrid and Remote Working, what must leaders do to build and facilitate connection? This is essential in creating a sense of purpose and community, both in and out of the organization, and to help leaders need to provide context for people’s work. For Liz, this has to be about explaining what the impact of work is, and how it connects with wider purpose, as without this, people can’t feel a sense of fulfilment in their work. She also shares her view on how people don’t want to be managed in general, they want to be led. Rather than doing a job, leaders are people who see what needs to be done. This is important in the context of the Great Resignation – employees must feel connected and a sense of purpose even if removed from their workplace and work friends. Finally, she offers practical ways to start The Great Reconnection.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50555297</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/50555297/rtr_s6_e1_liz_wiseman.mp3" length="71614424" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We start our new S6 of Workplace Stories with an overview of the theme of the Season, how it links to the previous five, then talk to Liz Wiseman, CEO of the Wiseman Group and author of New York Times bestseller about how leaders can build connections...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We start our new S6 of Workplace Stories with an overview of the theme of the Season, how it links to the previous five, then talk to Liz Wiseman, CEO of the Wiseman Group and author of New York Times bestseller about how leaders can build connections to and between people, and more broadly to the organization, 'Multipliers.'  As we hear, Liz’s purpose is to make work better for everyone by creating organizations where great leaders multiply intelligence, rather than draining it from the organization. What inspires Liz is working with and watching senior leaders to learn what good leadership looks like, and how anyone can be a smart leader that doesn’t shut down smarts of others. We then hear her views on how at present, many organizations are in the process of trying to recover from a period of enormous disconnection. Now, in a world of Hybrid and Remote Working, what must leaders do to build and facilitate connection? This is essential in creating a sense of purpose and community, both in and out of the organization, and to help leaders need to provide context for people’s work. For Liz, this has to be about explaining what the impact of work is, and how it connects with wider purpose, as without this, people can’t feel a sense of fulfilment in their work. She also shares her view on how people don’t want to be managed in general, they want to be led. Rather than doing a job, leaders are people who see what needs to be done. This is important in the context of the Great Resignation – employees must feel connected and a sense of purpose even if removed from their workplace and work friends. Finally, she offers practical ways to start The Great Reconnection.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>4476</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>leadership,lizwiseman,redthreadresearch,thegreatreconnection,torch</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/77688df083446d659ff07ea8f736e612.jpg"/><itunes:season>6</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Forget Balanced Work-Life And Think More Integrated: Panasonic's Lydia Wu</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/forget-balanced-work-life-and-think-more-integrated-panasonic-s-lydia-wu--50210556</link><description><![CDATA[In this, our final episode for the Adventures in Hybrid Work Season, we end strong with a great sit-down with people analytics innovator and Head of Talent Analytics & Transformation at Panasonic USA, Lydia Wu. It’s the right last conversation for now on this important topic, we think, as Lydia gives us so much frontline reporting on the key issues we’ve identified in our conversations, like the importance of data and really listening to what your workforce actually wants in terms of return to office instead of what you think they want, which we’ve heard from others—but also topics we maybe didn’t get so much on, like the importance of the DEIB factor in Hybrid, and what we should be doing for managers in all this, not just the main employee base. The fact that Panasonic—which really isn’t just ‘the microwave people’—has such a wide spread of job roles, both desked and deskless, is also really important to think about. It all matters—and as Dani says in the episode, maybe it’s time to stop saying ‘Hybrid Work,’ because now it’s all now just… what Work is?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50210556</guid><pubDate>Tue, 28 Jun 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/50210556/rtr_s5_e6_lydia_wu_panasonic_2.mp3" length="48446946" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In this, our final episode for the Adventures in Hybrid Work Season, we end strong with a great sit-down with people analytics innovator and Head of Talent Analytics &amp; Transformation at Panasonic USA, Lydia Wu. 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The fact that Panasonic—which really isn’t just ‘the microwave people’—has such a wide spread of job roles, both desked and deskless, is also really important to think about. It all matters—and as Dani says in the episode, maybe it’s time to stop saying ‘Hybrid Work,’ because now it’s all now just… what Work is?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3028</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,deiandhybridwork,hybridoffice,hybridwork,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,lydiawupanasonicnorthamerica,panasonic,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/467d4ef223be86d3a08eeecec2e8c0ce.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Is Mentoring The Key To Hybrid? WM’s Phil Rhodes</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/is-mentoring-the-key-to-hybrid-wm-s-phil-rhodes--50026429</link><description><![CDATA[In February last year, this week’s guest, Phil Rhodes, Head of Learning & Leadership Development at WM--which you may now better as Waste Management, and who are the very helpful people who handled your garbage all the way through Lockdown—was not long in post when his suggestion of a coaching program was met with the observation, ‘Phil, trash companies don’t do coaching.’ Well, maybe they should all start, as the first rollout got a 96% approval rating with either ‘life-changing’ or ‘valuable’ level ratings. And as you’ll discover on this episode, mentoring and coaching, at multiple levels, for both truck driver and regional manager, emerged as a transformational tool for the company. Was it just a way to get through the pandemic, or perhaps the key way Hybrid can be made to land for everyone? We’ll make you listen to the episode to get the answer—but you’ll not hate us for that, as along the way you’ll get so much great insight on everything from the history of Southern Africa to new ways of thinking about effective frontline worker support. Warning: no, they didn’t train new folks how to drive the big vehicles online. At least… tune in to find out more!]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50026429</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/50026429/rtr_s5_e5_phil_rhodes_wm_2.mp3" length="51042055" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In February last year, this week’s guest, Phil Rhodes, Head of Learning &amp; Leadership Development at WM--which you may now better as Waste Management, and who are the very helpful people who handled your garbage all the way through Lockdown—was not...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In February last year, this week’s guest, Phil Rhodes, Head of Learning & Leadership Development at WM--which you may now better as Waste Management, and who are the very helpful people who handled your garbage all the way through Lockdown—was not long in post when his suggestion of a coaching program was met with the observation, ‘Phil, trash companies don’t do coaching.’ Well, maybe they should all start, as the first rollout got a 96% approval rating with either ‘life-changing’ or ‘valuable’ level ratings. And as you’ll discover on this episode, mentoring and coaching, at multiple levels, for both truck driver and regional manager, emerged as a transformational tool for the company. Was it just a way to get through the pandemic, or perhaps the key way Hybrid can be made to land for everyone? We’ll make you listen to the episode to get the answer—but you’ll not hate us for that, as along the way you’ll get so much great insight on everything from the history of Southern Africa to new ways of thinking about effective frontline worker support. Warning: no, they didn’t train new folks how to drive the big vehicles online. At least… tune in to find out more!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3191</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,hybridoffice,hybridwork,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,mentoring,perceptyx,philrhodeswm,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,wastemanagementwm,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a58cb134d260d4a302245d70dd6b276a.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>From Human To Social Capital: formerly AWS &amp; GM's Michael Arena</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/from-human-to-social-capital-formerly-aws-gm-s-michael-arena--49942614</link><description><![CDATA[This week’s guest is Michael Arena, who brings the unique perspective of leading talent development and management for not just major New Economy global brands like Amazon Web Services, but also stalwart Old Economy blue chips like General Motors and Bank of America. Along the way, he’s also done serious research and training in network analysis and the power of social science to truly understand what’s happening with today’s corporations. That combination of frontline management and crisis response and a lens for viewing all our recent challenges in people practices, gives him, we’d argue, the right to be heard on what he thinks is really happening out there for both individuals (and especially a voice often left out of the Future of Work conversation, the leader) and teams as we progress through what he jokes is both, Dickens-wise, ‘the best and the worst’ times to be in work right now. If you’re still sceptical, a few minutes on his evidence of bridging and bonding social capital and its impact on the Hybrid Workspace we’re seeing evolve around us will change your mind: and we say that as Data ‘Til I Die! converts. Social capital is a tool, we predict, that you’ll soon be using as much as Michael is in his new role in Connected Commons.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49942614</guid><pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49942614/rtr_s5_e4_micheal_arena.mp3" length="52320592" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week’s guest is Michael Arena, who brings the unique perspective of leading talent development and management for not just major New Economy global brands like Amazon Web Services, but also stalwart Old Economy blue chips like General Motors and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This week’s guest is Michael Arena, who brings the unique perspective of leading talent development and management for not just major New Economy global brands like Amazon Web Services, but also stalwart Old Economy blue chips like General Motors and Bank of America. Along the way, he’s also done serious research and training in network analysis and the power of social science to truly understand what’s happening with today’s corporations. That combination of frontline management and crisis response and a lens for viewing all our recent challenges in people practices, gives him, we’d argue, the right to be heard on what he thinks is really happening out there for both individuals (and especially a voice often left out of the Future of Work conversation, the leader) and teams as we progress through what he jokes is both, Dickens-wise, ‘the best and the worst’ times to be in work right now. If you’re still sceptical, a few minutes on his evidence of bridging and bonding social capital and its impact on the Hybrid Workspace we’re seeing evolve around us will change your mind: and we say that as Data ‘Til I Die! converts. Social capital is a tool, we predict, that you’ll soon be using as much as Michael is in his new role in Connected Commons.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3271</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,hybridoffice,hybridwork,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,michaelarena,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,socialcapital,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e7a54b2fd4f5b2240e55fef60cfaed97.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Doubling Down On Trust: Uber's RJ Milnor</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/doubling-down-on-trust-uber-s-rj-milnor--49754269</link><description><![CDATA[If there’s one word that sums up this week’s episode, it’s conscious listening. Yes, that’s two. But it’s actually the on-ramp to the real word we mean, and which is fast emerging as the theme of this Season 5 of Workplace Stories as it evolves: intentionality. That’s because our guest--RJ Milnor, Global Head of People Analytics and Chief People Data Officer at Uber--says it was conscious listening and thinking by he and his team about the WHY of his company was asking people to work for them, as opposed to where, that helped him craft a working Hybrid Work policy that works. Which, of course, is also another way of describing being intentional about RTO. We love RJ’s deep-thinking approach to these big questions--his commitment to listening to the people he’s trying to help, his rigor around tools and data, his willingness to experiment and flex. And we think you will too--plus get some clues about how to start the road to unlocking the Hybrid Work puzzle box from today. Hint: get conscious listening… and then get intentional.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49754269</guid><pubDate>Tue, 17 May 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49754269/rtr_s5_e3_rj_milner_uber_final_edit_for_upload.mp3" length="51052922" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>If there’s one word that sums up this week’s episode, it’s conscious listening. Yes, that’s two. But it’s actually the on-ramp to the real word we mean, and which is fast emerging as the theme of this Season 5 of Workplace Stories as it evolves:...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[If there’s one word that sums up this week’s episode, it’s conscious listening. Yes, that’s two. But it’s actually the on-ramp to the real word we mean, and which is fast emerging as the theme of this Season 5 of Workplace Stories as it evolves: intentionality. That’s because our guest--RJ Milnor, Global Head of People Analytics and Chief People Data Officer at Uber--says it was conscious listening and thinking by he and his team about the WHY of his company was asking people to work for them, as opposed to where, that helped him craft a working Hybrid Work policy that works. Which, of course, is also another way of describing being intentional about RTO. We love RJ’s deep-thinking approach to these big questions--his commitment to listening to the people he’s trying to help, his rigor around tools and data, his willingness to experiment and flex. And we think you will too--plus get some clues about how to start the road to unlocking the Hybrid Work puzzle box from today. Hint: get conscious listening… and then get intentional.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3191</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,hybridoffice,hybridwork,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,rjmilnoruber,uberpeopleanalytics,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/490a7f12fbcd994bf2dc7278e8478520.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Restoring Work-Life Balance Through Hybrid: Microsoft's Dawn Klinghoffer</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/restoring-work-life-balance-through-hybrid-microsoft-s-dawn-klinghoffer--49501628</link><description><![CDATA[Today, we hear from an HR leader at the absolute heart of the Hybrid evolution, Dawn Klinghoffer, Vice President of the HR Business Insights team at Microsoft. Dawn’s really helping set the agenda of what gets called in the show the ‘Pandora’s Box’ of workplace change the pandemic is sparking--which she sees, not as a source of trouble and confusion, as in the Greek myth, but as a way to get energy, meaning and empowerment placed at the center of every employee’s experience. Pandora-like, though, the changes Dawn wants to see can spark fear and disruption--fears which she discusses frankly and openly, and which she also so brilliantly encapsulated in a recent landmark HBR piece. We also hear about her fresh thinking on people analytics, data, and the employee-manager relationship, as well as practical tips on making Hybrid start working in your environment. To us—and, we think, by the end of this 56-plus minutes—Dawn's work here is a great example of HR is really for: to help us all be the best humans we can be. Worth your time.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49501628</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 07:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49501628/rtr_s5_e2_dawn_klinghoffer_hybrid.mp3" length="54147074" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Today, we hear from an HR leader at the absolute heart of the Hybrid evolution, Dawn Klinghoffer, Vice President of the HR Business Insights team at Microsoft. Dawn’s really helping set the agenda of what gets called in the show the ‘Pandora’s Box’ of...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Today, we hear from an HR leader at the absolute heart of the Hybrid evolution, Dawn Klinghoffer, Vice President of the HR Business Insights team at Microsoft. Dawn’s really helping set the agenda of what gets called in the show the ‘Pandora’s Box’ of workplace change the pandemic is sparking--which she sees, not as a source of trouble and confusion, as in the Greek myth, but as a way to get energy, meaning and empowerment placed at the center of every employee’s experience. Pandora-like, though, the changes Dawn wants to see can spark fear and disruption--fears which she discusses frankly and openly, and which she also so brilliantly encapsulated in a recent landmark HBR piece. We also hear about her fresh thinking on people analytics, data, and the employee-manager relationship, as well as practical tips on making Hybrid start working in your environment. To us—and, we think, by the end of this 56-plus minutes—Dawn's work here is a great example of HR is really for: to help us all be the best humans we can be. Worth your time.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3385</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,dawnklinghoffermicrosoft,hybridoffice,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,microsoftpeopleanalytics,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,sapsuccessfactors,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6200266276074f03fa5397fa5a359b4c.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A New Work Operating System: Thinker John Boudreau</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-new-work-operating-system-thinker-john-boudreau--49431433</link><description><![CDATA[Is it time to retire the concept of a job? Is it holding us all back—especially if we really want to make Hybrid Work a success? That’s a new, and we think highly useful, concept from today’s guest, author, academic and futurist John Boudreau. In the episode, John tells us how we want to move away from thinking about work as one job and job holder at a time and one degree at a time, to a system that allows the parts to freely connect, so tasks and projects can connect to atomized or deconstructed worker capabilities like Skills, which can be gained through an atomized set of things like experiences, partial degrees or credentials. John—a well-known HR scholar who’s Professor Emeritus of Management and Organization and a Senior Research Scientist with the Center for Effective Organizations at the Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California—says his thinking here is that we’ve been using the wrong unit of analysis in ‘the job,’ and that a new operating system of work is needed that should be instead be based on deconstructed elements of a role in terms of tasks rather than being based primarily on the job as the atomic unit of HR analysis. As you’re about to find, this is all set forth in his new book with fellow researcher Ravin Jesuthasan, Work Without Jobs, whose top concepts we try and explore, like what it might be like to ‘melt’ a job down to see what it’s made of and who could do bits of it instead, as well as a very new way of thinking about ice cubes. We’re so honored John agreed to be our lead-off guest for the Season, as we think it identifies many key themes and frees up some real opportunities for fresh Hybrid Work thinking we’ll all find useful. Just be careful you don’t melt while listening.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49431433</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49431433/rtr_s5_e1_john_boudreau.mp3" length="57885719" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Is it time to retire the concept of a job? Is it holding us all back—especially if we really want to make Hybrid Work a success? That’s a new, and we think highly useful, concept from today’s guest, author, academic and futurist John Boudreau. In the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Is it time to retire the concept of a job? Is it holding us all back—especially if we really want to make Hybrid Work a success? That’s a new, and we think highly useful, concept from today’s guest, author, academic and futurist John Boudreau. In the episode, John tells us how we want to move away from thinking about work as one job and job holder at a time and one degree at a time, to a system that allows the parts to freely connect, so tasks and projects can connect to atomized or deconstructed worker capabilities like Skills, which can be gained through an atomized set of things like experiences, partial degrees or credentials. John—a well-known HR scholar who’s Professor Emeritus of Management and Organization and a Senior Research Scientist with the Center for Effective Organizations at the Marshall School of Business, University of Southern California—says his thinking here is that we’ve been using the wrong unit of analysis in ‘the job,’ and that a new operating system of work is needed that should be instead be based on deconstructed elements of a role in terms of tasks rather than being based primarily on the job as the atomic unit of HR analysis. As you’re about to find, this is all set forth in his new book with fellow researcher Ravin Jesuthasan, Work Without Jobs, whose top concepts we try and explore, like what it might be like to ‘melt’ a job down to see what it’s made of and who could do bits of it instead, as well as a very new way of thinking about ice cubes. We’re so honored John agreed to be our lead-off guest for the Season, as we think it identifies many key themes and frees up some real opportunities for fresh Hybrid Work thinking we’ll all find useful. Just be careful you don’t melt while listening.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3618</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,decomposingjobs,futureofwork,hr,hrm,hrtrends,humanresourcemanagement,humanresources,hybridworkfuture,hybridworking,hyrbidoffice,johnboudreau,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,talentmanagement,worktech,workwithoutjobs</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/42556a1c27878fe8d8c00eb4d32d2202.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Adventures in Hybrid Work: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/adventures-in-hybrid-work-opening-arguments--49431429</link><description><![CDATA[We've completed one sort of Odyssey (at least for now). Now, it's time for an Adventure. That's the message from our customary opening new Workplace Stories from RedThread Research Season scene-setter this week, where the guys reveal that our next set of engagements and learning from experts and practitioners in the world of HR and the future of work is the current supernova-hot topic of Hybrid Work. <br /><br />If you really are just out of your COVID bunker, we refer, of course, to the idea of how we might re-orient ourselves to a workplace where employee expectations about ‘presenteeism’ have changed a lot… whether they have that much really for employers, well—let's see. Also covered: how RedThread's working with its team and clients to make our own changes to support Hybrid. <br /><br />To set us up, a review of how powerful employees are right now on their side of their see-saw (for how long), some Intriguing guest names get dropped, starting with this week’s co-dropping Episode 1, well-known HR Scholar and author John Boudreau, how this Season links surprisingly quickly with previous Workplace Stories surveys, and expected recurrent themes like the role both human diversity tech will play in all this as it unfolds. <br /><br />There's even a gag or two (you're going to love the one about printers), all putting us in the perfect mindset for the John episode deep Hybrid Work conceptual dive. Warning: the episode contains shocking information about certification. Still not sure Chris has recovered.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49431429</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49431429/rtr_s5_e0_dani_stacia_chris.mp3" length="38135057" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We've completed one sort of Odyssey (at least for now). Now, it's time for an Adventure. That's the message from our customary opening new Workplace Stories from RedThread Research Season scene-setter this week, where the guys reveal that our next set...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We've completed one sort of Odyssey (at least for now). Now, it's time for an Adventure. That's the message from our customary opening new Workplace Stories from RedThread Research Season scene-setter this week, where the guys reveal that our next set of engagements and learning from experts and practitioners in the world of HR and the future of work is the current supernova-hot topic of Hybrid Work. <br /><br />If you really are just out of your COVID bunker, we refer, of course, to the idea of how we might re-orient ourselves to a workplace where employee expectations about ‘presenteeism’ have changed a lot… whether they have that much really for employers, well—let's see. Also covered: how RedThread's working with its team and clients to make our own changes to support Hybrid. <br /><br />To set us up, a review of how powerful employees are right now on their side of their see-saw (for how long), some Intriguing guest names get dropped, starting with this week’s co-dropping Episode 1, well-known HR Scholar and author John Boudreau, how this Season links surprisingly quickly with previous Workplace Stories surveys, and expected recurrent themes like the role both human diversity tech will play in all this as it unfolds. <br /><br />There's even a gag or two (you're going to love the one about printers), all putting us in the perfect mindset for the John episode deep Hybrid Work conceptual dive. Warning: the episode contains shocking information about certification. Still not sure Chris has recovered.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2384</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>class.com,desklessworkers,digitaldivide,futureofwork,hr,hrm,hrtrends,humanresourcemanagement,humanresources,hybridoffices,hybridwork,hybridworking,inclusion,perceptyx,redthreadresearch,remoteworking,talentmanagement,worktech</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/32e2ec50eb05a5c684aa0ef41336d41f.jpg"/><itunes:season>5</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE: GE Healthcare's David Sperl</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/special-bonus-episode-ge-healthcare-s-david-sperl--49152425</link><description><![CDATA[In the Ancient Greece of Homeric times and mores, the concept of gifting, or gift-friendship, ξενία (‘xenia’) was central. Assuming your fellow Greeks would observe xenia allowed you to travel in the hope you’d be good for food and shelter for the night from strangers on your Odyssey; in exchange, travelers would leave a parting gift in thanks. At many points in The Odyssey, we see xenia in action, like when Eumaeus the Swineherd shows it to the disguised Odysseus, noting guests always come under the protection of Zeus. Well, we’ve reached the end of our own Skills Odyssey here, and so we thought it appropriate to give you, our fellow travellers, some xenia back: and it’s in the delightful shape of this bonus episode with our great final conversation with a CLO making experiments and achieving early results with a new approach to Skills, GE Healthcare’s very honest and informed David Sperl. It’s a conversation that covers his use of machine learning and analytics—again, underlining how key these practices are now in serious HR—as well as how dealing with challenges like replacing a zoo of older HR IT with one new global replacement just as is his division is being divested by its parent. He does a great job sharing learnings and best practice; it’s a bit of xenia in its own right—as Dani says in the episode, “That's one of the things that I really like about HR: if once you solve the problem, you can share that with other people, because it's going to work different in their organizations anyway.” And as she goes on to say, in this Odyssey we've seen tons of people being very honest and transparent with us about what they're doing—which is xenia all of us can treasure. Please also note we have yet another gift to close the Season, though, which you will hear about right at the beginning. Now it’s time to head back to shore--but we’ll be back very soon with more things to inform, help and challenge you.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49152425</guid><pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/49152425/rtr_s4_bonus_episode_david_sperl_with_call_out.mp3" length="51701595" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In the Ancient Greece of Homeric times and mores, the concept of gifting, or gift-friendship, ξενία (‘xenia’) was central. Assuming your fellow Greeks would observe xenia allowed you to travel in the hope you’d be good for food and shelter for the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In the Ancient Greece of Homeric times and mores, the concept of gifting, or gift-friendship, ξενία (‘xenia’) was central. Assuming your fellow Greeks would observe xenia allowed you to travel in the hope you’d be good for food and shelter for the night from strangers on your Odyssey; in exchange, travelers would leave a parting gift in thanks. At many points in The Odyssey, we see xenia in action, like when Eumaeus the Swineherd shows it to the disguised Odysseus, noting guests always come under the protection of Zeus. Well, we’ve reached the end of our own Skills Odyssey here, and so we thought it appropriate to give you, our fellow travellers, some xenia back: and it’s in the delightful shape of this bonus episode with our great final conversation with a CLO making experiments and achieving early results with a new approach to Skills, GE Healthcare’s very honest and informed David Sperl. It’s a conversation that covers his use of machine learning and analytics—again, underlining how key these practices are now in serious HR—as well as how dealing with challenges like replacing a zoo of older HR IT with one new global replacement just as is his division is being divested by its parent. He does a great job sharing learnings and best practice; it’s a bit of xenia in its own right—as Dani says in the episode, “That's one of the things that I really like about HR: if once you solve the problem, you can share that with other people, because it's going to work different in their organizations anyway.” And as she goes on to say, in this Odyssey we've seen tons of people being very honest and transparent with us about what they're doing—which is xenia all of us can treasure. Please also note we have yet another gift to close the Season, though, which you will hear about right at the beginning. Now it’s time to head back to shore--but we’ll be back very soon with more things to inform, help and challenge you.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3232</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aiandskills,davidsperlgehealthcare,degreed,futureofwork,gehealthcare,redthreadresearch,skills,skillsascurrency,skillsframeworks,skillsontologies,techwolf,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/aae0354d4a759b3cdc75823b0a19b313.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Delivering a Skills Marketplace: Deutsche Post DHL's Meredith Wellard</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/delivering-a-skills-marketplace-deutsche-post-dhl-s-meredith-wellard--48959727</link><description><![CDATA[Something’s happened to this week’s guest, Meredith Wellard. And it’s actually something quite wonderful; you can hear it in her voice, animating and energizing her. It’s a mix of excitement at possibility--and almost relief that a lot of checks she’s been trying to cash all her years in HR, L&D and talent management can finally be honored. Her secret? It’s the immediate impact on her organization, Deutsche Post DHL Group (she’s an Australian living and working in Bonn, Germany), she’s getting from a new machine learning and data analytics-powered approach to Skills. She and her team—as you’ll learn over the sound of Homer’s ‘wine-dark sea’ and your oars ,as you race ahead on this leg of our almost-concluded Skills Odyssey—have used that tech to create a unique career marketplace. You’ll soon know why she wants to call it that instead of a ‘Skills’ one) that will eventually be the friendly, automated, and incredibly well-informed training and new job (or even new career path) digital assistant for all of its half million global workforce. No wonder she’s inspired: and we think you soon will be as well.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48959727</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2022 07:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48959727/rtr_s4_e7_meredith_wellard_final_edit_2_with_suggested_cuts.mp3" length="46324968" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Something’s happened to this week’s guest, Meredith Wellard. And it’s actually something quite wonderful; you can hear it in her voice, animating and energizing her. It’s a mix of excitement at possibility--and almost relief that a lot of checks she’s...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Something’s happened to this week’s guest, Meredith Wellard. And it’s actually something quite wonderful; you can hear it in her voice, animating and energizing her. It’s a mix of excitement at possibility--and almost relief that a lot of checks she’s been trying to cash all her years in HR, L&D and talent management can finally be honored. Her secret? It’s the immediate impact on her organization, Deutsche Post DHL Group (she’s an Australian living and working in Bonn, Germany), she’s getting from a new machine learning and data analytics-powered approach to Skills. She and her team—as you’ll learn over the sound of Homer’s ‘wine-dark sea’ and your oars ,as you race ahead on this leg of our almost-concluded Skills Odyssey—have used that tech to create a unique career marketplace. You’ll soon know why she wants to call it that instead of a ‘Skills’ one) that will eventually be the friendly, automated, and incredibly well-informed training and new job (or even new career path) digital assistant for all of its half million global workforce. No wonder she’s inspired: and we think you soon will be as well.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2896</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aiandskills,cornerstone,degreed,deutschepostdhl,futureofwork,meredithwellarddeutschepostdhl,redthreadresearch,skills,skillsascurrency,skillsframeworks,skillsontologies,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/6c8f85e66e2117ab59395bfdcdc8b373.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Precision Development At Scale: Deloitte's Eric Dingler</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/precision-development-at-scale-deloitte-s-eric-dingler--48867823</link><description><![CDATA[Deloitte is different. It’s different for, of course, its unique approach to solving customer problems, as well as its sheer size and scale. But in the context of a Skills Odyssey, it’s also pretty unique for having a) an ‘agency’ structure that makes it peculiarly receptive to new ways of organizing around Skills, and b) an openness to try new things. It’s also full, of course, of very smart people… we’d know, as both Stacia and Dani are alumni! But today’s guest, Chief Learning Officer of Deloitte’s US operation, Eric Dingler, isn’t interested in the past. In fact, he’s pretty critical about what Deloitte (and the rest of us in L&D) didn’t get right historically (“a talent/career model-level role hasn't allowed us to be as agile as we need to be and enable our organization to be as agile”) around career development. Instead, he’s very, very much about the future. In our discussion, you’ll see that for yourself as we cover a wide range of topics, from what it’s like to be in the CLO cockpit for a 145,000 person end of a half million-strong people organization, the central importance of agility as the lens Deloitte wants to see things through going forward, the role of data and analytics—even how he knows what L&D does really can touch so many people, making a better world for us all. We’re really glad we spoke to this fellow Skills Odyssey voyager; we suspect you will be, too.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48867823</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48867823/rtr_s4_e5_eric_dingler_the_very_very_final_edit.mp3" length="42731773" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Deloitte is different. 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In fact, he’s pretty critical about what Deloitte (and the rest of us in L&D) didn’t get right historically (“a talent/career model-level role hasn't allowed us to be as agile as we need to be and enable our organization to be as agile”) around career development. Instead, he’s very, very much about the future. In our discussion, you’ll see that for yourself as we cover a wide range of topics, from what it’s like to be in the CLO cockpit for a 145,000 person end of a half million-strong people organization, the central importance of agility as the lens Deloitte wants to see things through going forward, the role of data and analytics—even how he knows what L&D does really can touch so many people, making a better world for us all. We’re really glad we spoke to this fellow Skills Odyssey voyager; we suspect you will be, too.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2671</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aiandskills,degreed,deloitte,ericdinglerdeloitteus,futureofwork,redthreadresearch,skills,skillsascurrency,skillsframework,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/8c9f5cbc60c852d826a6bf167cdf05ad.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Designing A Future That Loves Us All: AstraZeneka's Manisha Singh</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/designing-a-future-that-loves-us-all-astrazeneka-s-manisha-singh--48598558</link><description><![CDATA[Manisha Singh is a leading voice in everything from HR technology to people analytics, AI ethics to doing practical work on the future of work. And as someone who built what may well have been one of the very first ever talent marketplaces during her years at global energy equipment giant Schneider Electric, she’s also got incredible street cred for any Skills discussion. If that wasn’t enough, her years moving through the HR ranks at places like Tata and AXA would also mark her out as someone worth a conversation with… but now she’s capping all of her achievements so far with impressive work at British-Swedish multinational pharmaceutical and biotechnology brand AstraZeneca. Where, among other things, she is quietly working away on doing her bit to design ‘a future that loves us all.’ A brilliant phrase, for sure. But what’s great about Manisha, who we’ve been wanting to compare Skills Odyssey notes with for soooo long, is that’s not just epic, Homeric poetry: she’s actually doing the steering and the navigating. Oh, and just for good measure, you’ll also hear why she thinks Skills could be the way we solve The Great Resignation. Oh yeah.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48598558</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Mar 2022 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48598558/rtr_s4_e3_manisha_singh_kev_1st_edit.mp3" length="57954682" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Manisha Singh is a leading voice in everything from HR technology to people analytics, AI ethics to doing practical work on the future of work. And as someone who built what may well have been one of the very first ever talent marketplaces during her...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Manisha Singh is a leading voice in everything from HR technology to people analytics, AI ethics to doing practical work on the future of work. 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Oh, and just for good measure, you’ll also hear why she thinks Skills could be the way we solve The Great Resignation. Oh yeah.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3623</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>aiandskills,astrazeneca,degreed,futureofwork,manishasinghastrazeneca,opentalentmarket,redthreadresearch,schneiderelectric,skills,skillsframeworks,skillsontologies,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/3d81e59147919477f14b42dade0de35d.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building Planes with Cake Decorators: Boeing's Guillermo Miranda</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-planes-with-cake-decorators-boeing-s-guillermo-miranda--48654488</link><description><![CDATA[We came off this recording session thinking, Have we just literally seen the future of work? A world where how Skills has become the core to everything, and instead of performance management, we do performance enablement? And where the employee is the one that triggers the conversation, and salary is never just based on what I did last year but for the future of what I can do for you? And where the very praxis of making stuff is not about one company’s team coming together, but many actors and partners and even ‘employees,’ but in a very different sense of what that means now? You can tell we’re feeling it; you might even say we’ve been drinking some of the heady wines Odysseus plied the monstrous Cyclops with to enable he and his companions to escape its clutches. But like proper Greek heroes, we never let these spirits overpower us. Instead, we want to focus on the insights and best practice of what today’s guest, Guillermo Miranda, Digital Transformation Executive and CLO at Boeing, tells us about the future. A future that he and his team are building right now… and which, charmingly, perfectly, and hard-nosed business fittingly, involves cake decorators. We always knew we needed them: boy, how little we knew.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48654488</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2022 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48654488/rtr_s4e4_guilleremo_miranda_kev_1st_edit.mp3" length="44127338" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We came off this recording session thinking, Have we just literally seen the future of work? A world where how Skills has become the core to everything, and instead of performance management, we do performance enablement? And where the employee is the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We came off this recording session thinking, Have we just literally seen the future of work? 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A future that he and his team are building right now… and which, charmingly, perfectly, and hard-nosed business fittingly, involves cake decorators. We always knew we needed them: boy, how little we knew.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2758</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>boeing,competencies,degreed,futureofwork,guillermomirandacloboeing,redthreadresearch,salary,skills,skillsframeworks,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/8afbef8a36065342883962185cbb8abf.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Paying for Skills and Much More with "Trustworthy AI," IBM's Anshul Sheopuri</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/paying-for-skills-and-much-more-with-trustworthy-ai-ibm-s-anshul-sheopuri--48362567</link><description><![CDATA[This week, it’s all about numbers, scale, and achievement. In terms of numbers, how about a Skills-based, AI-enhanced framework that is keeping 250,000 employees happy and appropriately paid? And which saves the company an estimated $100m per year, money avoided by avoiding expensive churn and not paying beyond market rate—even for scare capability? And as for the achievement, the spotlight in this episode is on Anshul Sheopuri, Vice President & CTO, Data & AI At ‘IBM Workforce,’ Big Blue’s immense global HR function, where he’s led the work on using Artificial Intelligence, Machine Learning, and lots of data to improve hiring, compensation and even DEIB policies across the company. So important is this idea of ‘Skills-for-pay’ and ‘Skills as currency’ that he sees it as a ‘silver thread’ unifying people processes and practices… which of course we soon correct to a ‘red thread’! We’ve been looking to meet with Anshul for a long while, and we’re glad we hung on in there, as this is an excellent conversation with a true subject matter expert who’s using tech to really make a bunch of positive change for his colleagues. A really interesting piece of best practice you could start looking at right away is using employee digital footprint to see what their Skills really are. Sadly, Stacia never got the AI help with tonight’s dinner she thought she’d get, but hey—you can’t have it all.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48362567</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2022 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48362567/rtr_s4e3_anshul_sheopuri_2.mp3" length="52634479" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This week, it’s all about numbers, scale, and achievement. 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So important is this idea of ‘Skills-for-pay’ and ‘Skills as currency’ that he sees it as a ‘silver thread’ unifying people processes and practices… which of course we soon correct to a ‘red thread’! We’ve been looking to meet with Anshul for a long while, and we’re glad we hung on in there, as this is an excellent conversation with a true subject matter expert who’s using tech to really make a bunch of positive change for his colleagues. A really interesting piece of best practice you could start looking at right away is using employee digital footprint to see what their Skills really are. 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You get all this in this week’s in-depth conversation with a real Skills practitioner striving at enterprise level, as well as, heck, a book report on Homer as Tarantino and what the Odyssey actually can teach us all about careers and acquiring knowledge. Don’t say we never spoil you.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48026619</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2022 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48026619/rtr_s4_e1_rob_carlyle_kevs_1st_mix.mp3" length="57029320" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“We really just almost assume that, self-evidently, Skills matter--and then went to try to build a Skills library. 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Don’t say we never spoil you.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3565</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>competencies,degreed,machinelearning,redthread,skills,skillsframeworks,skillstaxonomies,sunlife,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/48bcf926186cbb2444e2818f87194b3f.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Skills Odyssey II: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-skills-odyssey-ii-opening-arguments--48021179</link><description><![CDATA[Well… we’re still not home. The fabled Ithaca of Skills nirvana is still somewhere in the distance. This journey we’re on—this Skills Odyssey—continues. But we still are getting help on the voyage from Dani, Stacia and Chris Pirie from The Learning Futures Group, who are going to share another set of conversations with metaphorical sailors, explorers and other mythical characters also trying to work out how to avoid the workplace Sirens, tired Cyclops ideas and unhelpful Circe tech that might not help us. This week, dive in yourself to get set up with what the trio of plucky HR and workplace practice thinkers see as the main themes of this, our second look at all things Skills as sponsored (again! Thank you!) by our friends as Visier and Degreed. We also get a catch-up on how RedThread as a business is building capability and acquiring momentum, as well as reflections on previous ‘Workplace Stories’ seasons. Delightfully, we also get some terrific business and life development book recommendations from all three. It’ll be nice to have some reading matter down here below deck.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48021179</guid><pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2022 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/48021179/rtr_s4_e0_stacia_danni.mp3" length="25468386" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Well… we’re still not home. The fabled Ithaca of Skills nirvana is still somewhere in the distance. This journey we’re on—this Skills Odyssey—continues. But we still are getting help on the voyage from Dani, Stacia and Chris Pirie from The Learning...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Well… we’re still not home. The fabled Ithaca of Skills nirvana is still somewhere in the distance. This journey we’re on—this Skills Odyssey—continues. 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It’ll be nice to have some reading matter down here below deck.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1592</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,competencies,degreed,learningfuturesgroup,peopleanalytics,redthreadresearch,skills,visier,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/130142638ff3bfb529d464adf6d44462.jpg"/><itunes:season>4</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A Peek Inside a Skills Transformation: Novartis's Tim Dickinson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-peek-inside-a-skills-transformation-novartis-s-tim-dickinson--46754566</link><description><![CDATA[A lot of people we talk to are hesitant about starting their Skills Odyssey. They’ve got a good reason: they feel there’s just too much ocean out there between them and getting to the good place of Ithaca/success. But if you don’t start somewhere, you won’t get anywhere, so you kind of have to dive in. That’s the view, at least, from our guest today, Tim Dickinson, Global Head of Learning Systems & Innovation at European life sciences firm Novartis, a global healthcare company based in Switzerland that provides solutions to address the evolving needs of patients worldwide—and which, fascinatingly, has made ‘Curiosity’ a core corporate value. A key clue on how to do that jumping: decide if you want to focus on ‘Skills’ in general or the ones the organization sees as critical right now. As Tim says himself, his job is all about improving learning and improve knowledge sharing through technology, and then driving that knowledge-sharing and Skills-building throughout the organization. Don’t know about you, but that sounds like a job we’d really want: and we think you do, too.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46754566</guid><pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:00:02 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46754566/rtr_s3e2_tim_dickinson_2_with_danni_intro.mp3" length="47864311" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>A lot of people we talk to are hesitant about starting their Skills Odyssey. They’ve got a good reason: they feel there’s just too much ocean out there between them and getting to the good place of Ithaca/success. But if you don’t start somewhere, you...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[A lot of people we talk to are hesitant about starting their Skills Odyssey. They’ve got a good reason: they feel there’s just too much ocean out there between them and getting to the good place of Ithaca/success. But if you don’t start somewhere, you won’t get anywhere, so you kind of have to dive in. That’s the view, at least, from our guest today, Tim Dickinson, Global Head of Learning Systems & Innovation at European life sciences firm Novartis, a global healthcare company based in Switzerland that provides solutions to address the evolving needs of patients worldwide—and which, fascinatingly, has made ‘Curiosity’ a core corporate value. A key clue on how to do that jumping: decide if you want to focus on ‘Skills’ in general or the ones the organization sees as critical right now. As Tim says himself, his job is all about improving learning and improve knowledge sharing through technology, and then driving that knowledge-sharing and Skills-building throughout the organization. Don’t know about you, but that sounds like a job we’d really want: and we think you do, too.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2992</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,clo,competencies,curiosity,futureworkskills,novartis,redthreadresearch,skills,timdickinsonnovartis,upskilling,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e1ee0842f5010ae926dec05364c9a58b.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>The Soup Cube Skills Methodology: ABN AMRO’s Patrick Coolen</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/the-soup-cube-skills-methodology-abn-amro-s-patrick-coolen--47308583</link><description><![CDATA[“How you are able, as an organization, to reconfigure resources like Skills and have the ability to allocate the right talents in your organization at the right time-- I think it's also a competitive advantage.” So says our guest this week, Patrick Coolen, Global Head of People Analytics, HR intelligence & Organizational Design, and we don’t think many people would disagree with him. But how to allocate? Based in Amsterdam, Patrick is leading the charge on Skills at ABN AMRO, a large Dutch-headquartered bank, to do just that—make Skills a competitive resource for his enterprise—so he has some ideas and experience to share on what he and his team see as the answer. The result is one of our most interesting traveller’s tales so far on the Skills Odyssey, encompassing everything from pragmatics on how to start with people analytics, the usefulness of Emsi data, a good deal of Dutch common sense and a rather beguiling metaphor on, er, soup. 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But how to allocate? Based in Amsterdam, Patrick is leading the charge on Skills at ABN AMRO, a large Dutch-headquartered bank, to do just that—make Skills a competitive resource for his enterprise—so he has some ideas and experience to share on what he and his team see as the answer. The result is one of our most interesting traveller’s tales so far on the Skills Odyssey, encompassing everything from pragmatics on how to start with people analytics, the usefulness of Emsi data, a good deal of Dutch common sense and a rather beguiling metaphor on, er, soup. Trust us: you’re going to go with it!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2948</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,buildskillsvsbuyskills,competencies,digitization,patrickcoolenamsterdam,peopleanalytics,redthreadresearch,skills,upskilling,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/081f00fde6107bccfb839c38211a9929.jpg"/><itunes:season>3</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Building the Skills Plane While Flying: Citi's Christopher Funk</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/building-the-skills-plane-while-flying-citi-s-christopher-funk--47143256</link><description><![CDATA[Setting up this week’s conversation, Dani promises that this one’s a “must-listen for anyone who's trying to figure out how to make Skills work in their organization.” Bold claim? Not when you realize we’re talking about what a 200,000 person, multi-billion-dollar financial services leader is trying to do with Skills both operationally--and with the help of tech from HR system market leaders like Degreed and Workday. That’s the project as far as our guest, Christopher Funk, Senior Vice President - Talent and Performance Management Platforms over at Citi, is concerned, for sure. It’s a very honest, very detailed, and very open conversation from someone already a way across the seas of The Skills Odyssey; we invite you guys to decide if all that really does make it a “must-listen.” As Dani also says, we’ve all been in too many conversations where 45 minutes is spent arguing over if Skills are a skill or a competency or a capability or a trait or a characteristic; Mike’s got a useful answer for that one, too. So overall, we’re pretty sure Mike cashes the check.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47143256</guid><pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2021 08:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/47143256/cut_version_rtr_s3_e4_chris_funk_citi_bank.mp3" length="40521186" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Setting up this week’s conversation, Dani promises that this one’s a “must-listen for anyone who's trying to figure out how to make Skills work in their organization.” Bold claim? Not when you realize we’re talking about what a 200,000 person,...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Setting up this week’s conversation, Dani promises that this one’s a “must-listen for anyone who's trying to figure out how to make Skills work in their organization.” Bold claim? 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He’s also something called a Learning Squad Leader—terminology that may clue at least some of you that we’re dealing with an organization that’s embraced Agile pretty hard. But this isn’t a conversation about that interesting development methodology. It’s actually one (with many rewarding twists and turns) more about the main topic of the Season: Skills—and more specifically, what it looks like when you decide to pay its people more if they can prove they’ve built them, what that looks like at ground level, and most intriguingly, if they build in a non-linear fashion or not. Mike’s an excellent guest, deeply passionate but also very honest about what he’s seeing; definitely one for both the Skills thinker and the Skills practitioner. 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But this isn’t a conversation about that interesting development methodology. It’s actually one (with many rewarding twists and turns) more about the main topic of the Season: Skills—and more specifically, what it looks like when you decide to pay its people more if they can prove they’ve built them, what that looks like at ground level, and most intriguingly, if they build in a non-linear fashion or not. Mike’s an excellent guest, deeply passionate but also very honest about what he’s seeing; definitely one for both the Skills thinker and the Skills practitioner. 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Well, maybe we need to tear up the rule book and start thinking a bit harder about what that means in a much more digital, much more automating, much more diverse, and much more unstable world than maybe we all got comfortable with. That’s certainly our read on what Vidya Krishnan, one of RedThread’s favorite learning thinkers and practitioners, is doing over at Scandinavian telco giant Ericsson. And, you’ll be relieved to learn, while Skills is absolutely the key she’s using to unlock some big doors there, marked things like ‘Future’ and ‘Becoming Your Own Career CEO,’ and data the rocket fuel, she says, maybe like you do, that it’s a journey she’s on… maybe, indeed, an Odyssey. But it’s one we can all start, she reassures us in this, one of our best conversations for a long time. Oh, one last thing: you might be wanting pizza near the end. Don’t worry, you can tell the boss it’s for Skills research.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46988321</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:00:16 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46988321/rtr_s3_e5_vidya_krishnan_kevs_first_cut.mp3" length="53363400" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>In L&amp;D, we talk a lot about creating the conditions for learning: isn’t that kind of definitional about what we do? Well, maybe we need to tear up the rule book and start thinking a bit harder about what that means in a much more digital, much more...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[In L&D, we talk a lot about creating the conditions for learning: isn’t that kind of definitional about what we do? 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Don’t worry, you can tell the boss it’s for Skills research.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3336</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,clo,competencies,deib,ericsson,futureworkskills,purpose,redthreadresearch,reskilling,skills,upskilling,vidyakrishnanericsson,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/8e027b0fa9e8ae9238e9a3d2c2905634.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Bringing Skills to life in the workplace: People Data Enthusiast Heather Whiteman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/bringing-skills-to-life-in-the-workplace-people-data-enthusiast-heather-whiteman--46738325</link><description><![CDATA[Is today’s guest the epitome of a people analytics scholar practitioner? Well, let’s do the math: relevant PhD? Check. Six years figuring out how to interest Silicon Valley engineers to come work for an industrial firm by drawing up a whole new company-wide Skills matrix that actually reflected what needed to be done? Check. And working in academic contexts persuading quants that while data and machine learning are great, it’s those human skills that will actually help them most—as well as (and how awesome is this!), working out how to use data to build a more just world? Check! We’re so happy to finally get self-styled People Data Enthusiast Heather Whiteman on the show, now she’s at last fully unpacked in her new Seattle base (we tried for the first Skills season): and it was for sure worth the wait, as we get not just detail on practical ways to make Skills frameworks deliver, but also the message that people analytics aren’t to predict the future—they’re to change it. 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The good news is he got there in the end: and in a similar way, we think many HR practitioners out there also feel they are on a long journey, full of perils and set-backs and detours, but driven by a similar mission to get ‘home,’ when it comes to really making Skills a tractable thing for their organization’s own ‘Odyssey’ into the future. Hence the driving design principle for this, our third season of Workplace Stories, and the second dive we’ve taken into the wine-dark sea of Skills: that we can help our fellow voyagers by sharing the stories of adventurers, explorers and ambitious navigators just a few leagues ahead of us all in the water. To set sail, in this boat-side chat between Red Thread’s chief petty officers Stacia and Dani and our faithful Ship’s Carpenter Chris, we dip our figurative oars in the Mediterranean and set some possible destinations. Listen, at least Odysseus’ faithful dog Argos recognized him, even if no-one else did, when he finally got home; we are sure there’s a great pooch ready to jump on your lap when you make it, too. And her name’s Success.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46721017</guid><pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2021 07:00:16 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46721017/rtr_s3_e0_danni_stacia_chris.mp3" length="34278130" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>For ten tough years, the king of Ithaca tried to find his way back home from the war--and along the way, he had quite a few obstacles to face down. 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But Phil also believes, as you’ll hear in this fascinating three-way chat between Stacia, Chris and Phil, that data, while absolutely the key ingredient to making DEIB real, isn’t the only thing you need to make the cake come out right; you also need to be able to tell a compelling story—and be able to listen to the stories of others. Maybe listen, really, for the first time ever. 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But, as Phil reminds us so well in this episode of ‘Integrating Inclusion’…  you do have to start.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3560</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,belongingatworkday,carintaylorworkday,deib,deibanalytics,deibmetrics,diversity,equity,hranddeib,hrdeibmeasurement,inclusion,philwillburnworkday,workday,workdaydeib,workdayvibe</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ead687facb0501f3eb40e413adc8f0a3.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>What Belonging really needs to take hold: Airbnb’s Kate Shaw</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-belonging-really-needs-to-take-hold-airbnb-s-kate-shaw--46294403</link><description><![CDATA[What’s it feel like when your identity is all about promoting Belonging and a global pandemic comes along that for a time completely wipes out your market, forcing you to lay off hundreds of valued colleagues? Perhaps more importantly: how do you navigate that crisis in a way that’s faithful to your purpose and DEIB commitments? The answer we hear today: with some vulnerability, authenticity, courage, transparency, compassion, empathy—and a dash of curiosity. Welcome to the world of Airbnb’s Director of Learning, Kate Shaw, who shares with us some fascinating insights into how DEIB’s being made to not just work but thrive at her company. Kate’s one of our favorite people, and we think she’ll soon be yours, too: after all, she’s someone fully dedicated to a mission of making work better for everybody. And if that isn’t what you need to make Belonging work… what would?]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46294403</guid><pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2021 07:00:17 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46294403/rtr_s2e5_kate_shaw_final_redacted.mp3" length="42135874" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What’s it feel like when your identity is all about promoting Belonging and a global pandemic comes along that for a time completely wipes out your market, forcing you to lay off hundreds of valued colleagues? Perhaps more importantly: how do you...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What’s it feel like when your identity is all about promoting Belonging and a global pandemic comes along that for a time completely wipes out your market, forcing you to lay off hundreds of valued colleagues? Perhaps more importantly: how do you navigate that crisis in a way that’s faithful to your purpose and DEIB commitments? The answer we hear today: with some vulnerability, authenticity, courage, transparency, compassion, empathy—and a dash of curiosity. Welcome to the world of Airbnb’s Director of Learning, Kate Shaw, who shares with us some fascinating insights into how DEIB’s being made to not just work but thrive at her company. Kate’s one of our favorite people, and we think she’ll soon be yours, too: after all, she’s someone fully dedicated to a mission of making work better for everybody. And if that isn’t what you need to make Belonging work… what would?]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2634</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>airbnb,belonging,belongingatairbnb,deib,deibmetrics,diversity,equity,hranddeib,hrdeibmeasurement,inclusion,kateshawairbnb,layoffsincovid</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/45354f9cabc200b344d3c14ec630ce09.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Collaboration and DEIB — What Should Change? Babson College's Rob Cross</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/collaboration-and-deib-what-should-change-babson-college-s-rob-cross--46298154</link><description><![CDATA[What if the ways you’re trying to measure the ground-level impact of all your DEIB work in your workplace environment are incomplete? That’s the possibly concerning warning from academic and author Professor Rob Cross--our guest this week, and the co-author this Summer of what we believe to be a highly important intervention that flags the importance of ONA, organizational network analysis, for any serious attempt to understand what the team feels and does day-to-day.  But we got a lot more from our dialog than that, insightful as it was. We also hear some interesting findings about the growing strain on us all from the natural human desire to be helpful, which Rob warns translates into insane workloads. We must do something about this and design our work better to accommodate it, he believes, as collaboration is addictive, something we need to acknowledge—as well as figure out how the people, of all backgrounds, who are thriving are negotiating our new world of microstresses and DEIB opportunity. Heady stuff: you’re going to want to turn off Twitter for this one.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46298154</guid><pubDate>Tue, 07 Sep 2021 07:00:03 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46298154/rtr_s2e4_rob_cross.mp3" length="46155694" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What if the ways you’re trying to measure the ground-level impact of all your DEIB work in your workplace environment are incomplete? That’s the possibly concerning warning from academic and author Professor Rob Cross--our guest this week, and the...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What if the ways you’re trying to measure the ground-level impact of all your DEIB work in your workplace environment are incomplete? That’s the possibly concerning warning from academic and author Professor Rob Cross--our guest this week, and the co-author this Summer of what we believe to be a highly important intervention that flags the importance of ONA, organizational network analysis, for any serious attempt to understand what the team feels and does day-to-day.  But we got a lot more from our dialog than that, insightful as it was. We also hear some interesting findings about the growing strain on us all from the natural human desire to be helpful, which Rob warns translates into insane workloads. We must do something about this and design our work better to accommodate it, he believes, as collaboration is addictive, something we need to acknowledge—as well as figure out how the people, of all backgrounds, who are thriving are negotiating our new world of microstresses and DEIB opportunity. Heady stuff: you’re going to want to turn off Twitter for this one.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2885</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,collaboration,collaborationoverload,connectedcommonsconsortium,deib,diversity,equity,hranddeib,hrdeibmeasurement,inclusion,ona,organizationalnetworkanalysis,robcrossbabsoncollege,workplacestress</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bb02fbbbf8923b2a1f2e147fe3a6a2f1.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating light, not heat: JPMorgan Chase's Jesse Jackson</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-light-not-heat-jpmorgan-chase-s-jesse-jackson--46111147</link><description><![CDATA[Sometimes you feel you’re in the eye of the hurricane: so much is happening in terms of our wider society in terms of changing expectations, changing ways of working, changing life choices. Add the potentially explosive compound called ‘Diversity’ into all this, and it can start to feel a little hot in here. But, advises this week’s special guest and DEIB and L&D expert practitioner Jesse Jackson, CLO for JPMorgan Chase with a special focus on the Wall St’s giant’s consumer community banking business: when it comes to getting DEIB right, it’s not heat you want: it’s light. This is a really fascinating chance to find out from a person deep in the midst of all the changes we’re talking about, but also deep in a blue-chip financial services firm that always has to see things in terms of achievable ROI. We’ll let you decide if you agree that’s what Jesse’s achieving: us, we’re hunkering down in the place where it’s always the most interesting… that hurricane’s eye. Because that's where change happens.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46111147</guid><pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 16:16:15 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/46111147/rtr_s2_e3_jessie_jackson.mp3" length="41282290" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Sometimes you feel you’re in the eye of the hurricane: so much is happening in terms of our wider society in terms of changing expectations, changing ways of working, changing life choices. Add the potentially explosive compound called ‘Diversity’...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Sometimes you feel you’re in the eye of the hurricane: so much is happening in terms of our wider society in terms of changing expectations, changing ways of working, changing life choices. Add the potentially explosive compound called ‘Diversity’ into all this, and it can start to feel a little hot in here. But, advises this week’s special guest and DEIB and L&D expert practitioner Jesse Jackson, CLO for JPMorgan Chase with a special focus on the Wall St’s giant’s consumer community banking business: when it comes to getting DEIB right, it’s not heat you want: it’s light. This is a really fascinating chance to find out from a person deep in the midst of all the changes we’re talking about, but also deep in a blue-chip financial services firm that always has to see things in terms of achievable ROI. We’ll let you decide if you agree that’s what Jesse’s achieving: us, we’re hunkering down in the place where it’s always the most interesting… that hurricane’s eye. Because that's where change happens.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2581</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,colorblindcolorbrave,deib,deibdifficultconversations,diversity,equity,hranddeib,hrdeibtech,inclusion,jessejacksonjpmorganchase,jpmorgan,jpmorganchase,l&amp;dinachangingworld</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/b4394da2abb0fa31734ba8f92820ebc3.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Creating space for courageous conversations: S&amp;P Global's Rachel Fichter</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/creating-space-for-courageous-conversations-s-p-global-s-rachel-fichter--45594013</link><description><![CDATA[Are there three sets of people in Inclusion: the folks doing the ground-level work on DEIB, maybe the researchers way off in the academic stratosphere, and then the people actually affected by these issues on a day-to-day level in the workplace? If so, could we simplify this and remove a layer? If you think that’s a good idea, then listen today to someone who is doing all she can to fuse the first two roles there—Rachel Fichter, a PhD who also works for a Wall St financial analytics firm, S&P Global… but who sees herself in a fascinating new kind of role in HR and analytics: DEIB scholar-practitioner, helping her firm Integrate Inclusion while also diving into the literature on Belonging in the Columbia U stacks. So: quite a woman. And quite a DEIB thinker. You’re going to like this Workplace Story.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/45594013</guid><pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2021 07:00:17 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/45594013/rtr_s2_e2_rachel_fichter_2nd_new_ins_and_outs_edit.mp3" length="54159195" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Are there three sets of people in Inclusion: the folks doing the ground-level work on DEIB, maybe the researchers way off in the academic stratosphere, and then the people actually affected by these issues on a day-to-day level in the workplace? If...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Are there three sets of people in Inclusion: the folks doing the ground-level work on DEIB, maybe the researchers way off in the academic stratosphere, and then the people actually affected by these issues on a day-to-day level in the workplace? If so, could we simplify this and remove a layer? If you think that’s a good idea, then listen today to someone who is doing all she can to fuse the first two roles there—Rachel Fichter, a PhD who also works for a Wall St financial analytics firm, S&P Global… but who sees herself in a fascinating new kind of role in HR and analytics: DEIB scholar-practitioner, helping her firm Integrate Inclusion while also diving into the literature on Belonging in the Columbia U stacks. So: quite a woman. And quite a DEIB thinker. You’re going to like this Workplace Story.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3385</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,deib,diversity,diversityandinclusion,diversitytraining,drrachelfichter,drrachelfichters&amp;pglobal,employeeengagement,equity,futureofwork,hr2021,hranddeib,hrdeibtech,hrmanagement,hrmanagers,hrtrends,inclusion,learninganddevelopment,scholarpractitioners,s&amp;pglobal</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/5d674b418592b14705b0b2e9c297e8de.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Use both the data AND the story: PTC's Hallie Bregman</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/use-both-the-data-and-the-story-ptc-s-hallie-bregman--45422649</link><description><![CDATA[We love data, and we think it needs to be at the heart of all HR, especially in DEIB. But like this week’s guest, global talent strategy and analytics leader Hallie Bregman, we also know that data really only comes alive if it is part of a narrative. “I’m not going to give you data,” Hallie tells her colleagues at major Boston-based IT firm, PTC. “I am totally driven by data, I eat, sleep and breathe it all day long. But I'm going to tell you a story, and then I'm going to help you build a strategy around that story.” Such a smart way to put it—and this is one smart lady with so much to say that’s useful about DEIB, people analytics, ONA, NLP and so much more. We knew Hallie would be a hugely important contributor to this first official episode of the new Season of ‘Workplace Stories;’ hope you agree—and find a way to use her insights to make your own DEIB ‘story’ a success too.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/45422649</guid><pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2021 07:00:12 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/45422649/rtr_s2_e1_hallie_bregman_new_ins_and_out_edit.mp3" length="50573105" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>We love data, and we think it needs to be at the heart of all HR, especially in DEIB. But like this week’s guest, global talent strategy and analytics leader Hallie Bregman, we also know that data really only comes alive if it is part of a narrative....</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[We love data, and we think it needs to be at the heart of all HR, especially in DEIB. But like this week’s guest, global talent strategy and analytics leader Hallie Bregman, we also know that data really only comes alive if it is part of a narrative. “I’m not going to give you data,” Hallie tells her colleagues at major Boston-based IT firm, PTC. “I am totally driven by data, I eat, sleep and breathe it all day long. But I'm going to tell you a story, and then I'm going to help you build a strategy around that story.” Such a smart way to put it—and this is one smart lady with so much to say that’s useful about DEIB, people analytics, ONA, NLP and so much more. We knew Hallie would be a hugely important contributor to this first official episode of the new Season of ‘Workplace Stories;’ hope you agree—and find a way to use her insights to make your own DEIB ‘story’ a success too.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3161</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,companyculture,deib,diversity,diversityandinclusion,diversitytraining,employeeengagement,equity,futureofwork,hr2021,hranddeib,hrdeibtech,hrmanagement,hrmanagers,hrtrends,inclusion,leadership,learninganddevelopment,teambuilding,workculture</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4a5829b0d43d859e67bf95459b851dca.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Integrating Inclusion: Opening Arguments</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/integrating-inclusion-opening-arguments--45396101</link><description><![CDATA[Are we kidding ourselves when it comes to Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging (DEIB)? There’s been a LOT of talk about it, after all: is it being matched by any real action? Is the action that’s happening even being driven by leadership, or is it somehow something we’re getting ground-level folks to do, kind of for free, along with everything else we need off them in the COVID crisis? Are there any numbers, what do they tell us—and are they any good? What does DEIB success look like… and what can I do to move the needle here? These are good, maybe even critical questions, for society in 2021. But we don’t know the answers—which is why we’re inviting you to come along with us on a journey to find them together. Welcome to Season 2 of ‘Workplace Stories’ from RedThread Research, which we have entitled, with some optimism, perhaps, ‘Integrating Inclusion:’ a series of conversations on this core HR and HR tech issue. And like Season 1, along the way we think we’re going to be hearing maybe just one or two stories from people on the DEIB front line that will inspire, inform and energize you, too, including from amazing guests like PTC’s Hallie Bregman and S&P Global’s Rachel Fichter. Because DEIB really is everyone’s problem—and everyone’s job.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/45396101</guid><pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2021 07:00:17 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/45396101/rtr_s2_e0_new_in_and_outs_edit.mp3" length="37552840" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Are we kidding ourselves when it comes to Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging (DEIB)? There’s been a LOT of talk about it, after all: is it being matched by any real action? Is the action that’s happening even being driven by leadership, or is...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Are we kidding ourselves when it comes to Diversity, Equity, Inclusion and Belonging (DEIB)? There’s been a LOT of talk about it, after all: is it being matched by any real action? Is the action that’s happening even being driven by leadership, or is it somehow something we’re getting ground-level folks to do, kind of for free, along with everything else we need off them in the COVID crisis? Are there any numbers, what do they tell us—and are they any good? What does DEIB success look like… and what can I do to move the needle here? These are good, maybe even critical questions, for society in 2021. But we don’t know the answers—which is why we’re inviting you to come along with us on a journey to find them together. Welcome to Season 2 of ‘Workplace Stories’ from RedThread Research, which we have entitled, with some optimism, perhaps, ‘Integrating Inclusion:’ a series of conversations on this core HR and HR tech issue. And like Season 1, along the way we think we’re going to be hearing maybe just one or two stories from people on the DEIB front line that will inspire, inform and energize you, too, including from amazing guests like PTC’s Hallie Bregman and S&P Global’s Rachel Fichter. Because DEIB really is everyone’s problem—and everyone’s job.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2348</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>belonging,companyculture,deib,diversity,diversityandinclusion,diversitytraining,employeeengagement,equity,futureofwork,hr2021,hranddeib,hrmanagement,hrmanagers,hrtechanddeib,hrtrends,inclusion,leadership,learninganddevelopmen,teambuilding,workculture</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a328fbf4434803f446c68e69e79e3ebc.jpg"/><itunes:season>2</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>What a Mindset of Enablement Actually Looks Like: Microsoft’s Karen Kocher</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/what-a-mindset-of-enablement-actually-looks-like-microsoft-s-karen-kocher--44944096</link><description><![CDATA[What actually happens when your boss tells you one day he’d like you to teach a few people new digital skills… say, 25 million or so? You’re going to find out this week, because that really did happen to our great guest, Microsoft Global General Manager, Talent and Learning Experiences and Workforce of the Future Karen Kocher, who is leading the huge-scale Microsoft-LinkedIn global Skills Initiative. But important as that large-scale L&D experiment is, it’s far from all Karen wanted to talk to us about; think of the Skills program as an appetiser for a Learning and Skills banquet that includes life/career and pay advise, as well as useful notes on credentialing and what transitioning to a ‘learn-it-all’ culture entails at company street level. Quite a woman. Quite a conversation. And quite a Workplace Story.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/44944096</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:00:15 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/44944096/red_thread_s1e8_karen_kocher_kev_edit_1.mp3" length="47539512" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>What actually happens when your boss tells you one day he’d like you to teach a few people new digital skills… say, 25 million or so? You’re going to find out this week, because that really did happen to our great guest, Microsoft Global General...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[What actually happens when your boss tells you one day he’d like you to teach a few people new digital skills… say, 25 million or so? You’re going to find out this week, because that really did happen to our great guest, Microsoft Global General Manager, Talent and Learning Experiences and Workforce of the Future Karen Kocher, who is leading the huge-scale Microsoft-LinkedIn global Skills Initiative. But important as that large-scale L&D experiment is, it’s far from all Karen wanted to talk to us about; think of the Skills program as an appetiser for a Learning and Skills banquet that includes life/career and pay advise, as well as useful notes on credentialing and what transitioning to a ‘learn-it-all’ culture entails at company street level. Quite a woman. Quite a conversation. And quite a Workplace Story.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2972</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,clo,competencies,futureworkskills,karenkochermicrosoft,microsoftl&amp;d,microsoftskillsinitiative,purpose,upskilling,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/e633d2cb133bc686fdd0fbbdbeeb8e8a.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why skills inventory is a nut worth cracking:  former McDonald’s CLO Rob Lauber</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-skills-inventory-is-a-nut-worth-cracking-former-mcdonald-s-clo-rob-lauber--44847930</link><description><![CDATA[Truism 1: McDonald’s employs a lot of people. Truism 2: it doesn’t care that much about those people, so long as they flip the burgers OK, right? That second one is totally wrong, as we find out in our great conversation with the giant company’s former CLO, the very engaging Rob Lauber. In fact, with its pioneering Archways Program, thousands of entry-level staff get amazing on-the-job training, but also money and support for up-skilling—upskilling that the corporation is perfectly OK with them using to move on, often to full-time education or valuable social careers like healthcare. Even more interesting: for every $1 put in the Archways Program, McDonald's directly benefits $3 back. Skills and what they mean (including some refreshing scepticism from Rob about what the robots really will take off us) has been Rob’s own ‘obsession’ over a storied career,  so tune in for more on running training at mass scale—including some fascinating advise on what CLOs can do now, today, in terms of available company data. It’s enough to make you hungry.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/44847930</guid><pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 07:00:12 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/44847930/rtr_s1e7_rob_lauber_kev_edit_2.mp3" length="50423012" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Truism 1: McDonald’s employs a lot of people. Truism 2: it doesn’t care that much about those people, so long as they flip the burgers OK, right? That second one is totally wrong, as we find out in our great conversation with the giant company’s...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Truism 1: McDonald’s employs a lot of people. Truism 2: it doesn’t care that much about those people, so long as they flip the burgers OK, right? That second one is totally wrong, as we find out in our great conversation with the giant company’s former CLO, the very engaging Rob Lauber. In fact, with its pioneering Archways Program, thousands of entry-level staff get amazing on-the-job training, but also money and support for up-skilling—upskilling that the corporation is perfectly OK with them using to move on, often to full-time education or valuable social careers like healthcare. Even more interesting: for every $1 put in the Archways Program, McDonald's directly benefits $3 back. Skills and what they mean (including some refreshing scepticism from Rob about what the robots really will take off us) has been Rob’s own ‘obsession’ over a storied career,  so tune in for more on running training at mass scale—including some fascinating advise on what CLOs can do now, today, in terms of available company data. It’s enough to make you hungry.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3152</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,clo,competencies,futureworkskills,mcdonaldsarchwayprogram,mcdonaldsl&amp;d,peopledataforgood,purpose,roblauberclomcdonalds,roblauberxloglobal,skills,upskilling,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/15e59c19fd6999427f169fc52aa2a2d2.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>A 'Third Age' of Human Capital Management: Workday's Greg Pryor</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/a-third-age-of-human-capital-management-workday-s-greg-pryor--43809508</link><description><![CDATA[“I think we have to help organizations get out of the way and let people unleash and unlock their capabilities in ways that does not require the organization to be at the center.” Sounds pretty optimistic? No surprise as whatever else he is, our guest this week, Greg Pryor, is an optimist—and we are too, given the power of the examples and the strength of the conviction he gave us in this hour of debate over the future of HR. Greg, People & Performance Evangelist at Workday, a tech firm that is shaking up the world of enterprise software and which we’re grateful to have as sponsor of this whole Workplace Stories first season, shares many fascinating insights into what he sees as a totally new age for human capital management that the pandemic has tipped us all into. These cover the gamut from bleeding-edge academic research on the future of work to the life lessons kids are teaching their parents out of playing Fortnite, and keep Stacia and fellow interviewer Chris engaged and often delighted. It’s a great conversation: use it to level up your thinking about skills. 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No surprise as whatever else he is, our guest this week, Greg Pryor, is an optimist—and we are too, given the power of the examples and the strength of the conviction he gave us in this hour of debate over the future of HR. Greg, People & Performance Evangelist at Workday, a tech firm that is shaking up the world of enterprise software and which we’re grateful to have as sponsor of this whole Workplace Stories first season, shares many fascinating insights into what he sees as a totally new age for human capital management that the pandemic has tipped us all into. These cover the gamut from bleeding-edge academic research on the future of work to the life lessons kids are teaching their parents out of playing Fortnite, and keep Stacia and fellow interviewer Chris engaged and often delighted. It’s a great conversation: use it to level up your thinking about skills. We certainly did.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3219</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>competencies,fulfillment,futureworkskills,gregpryorworkday,hrtech,hrtrends,learninganddevelopment,machinelearninginhr,peopleanalytics,skillsgap,talentanalytics,workday</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/7b200e129c6f75d627dfd8af4ceea9f5.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Why L&amp;D Needs to Lose The ‘Men In Black’ Mindset: British Red Cross's Satnam Sagoo</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/why-l-d-needs-to-lose-the-men-in-black-mindset-british-red-cross-s-satnam-sagoo--44060402</link><description><![CDATA[For some reason, we don’t listen enough to what our peers in the non-profit world can tell us about skills. But when a practitioner there says something like, “We see anybody joining us as an empty vessel: a bit like in Men in Black, someone wipes your brain out at Reception, you come through and then we up-skill you. That means we forget you come with a commodity of a vast array of skills; that’s why we hired you, that's why you're supporting us—all of those things that we so much want, but we don’t have a way of actually capturing that and supporting that as a network,” we think a lot of ears will prick up in corporate L&D! If you agree, check out this deep dive into everything from skills frameworks (their seductions and their perils) to credentialling with Satnam Sagoo. Satnam works at British Red Cross, where she’s accountable for developing and delivering the organization’s learning and organisation development strategy—creating an L&D offer that meets the need of all 5,000 permanent staff but also what can be at times of crisis 100,000 temporary and external volunteers. 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We’ll leave you to judge—it certainly moved (and inspired) all of us.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2965</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>adaptability,britishredcross,clo,competencies,futureworkskills,meaning,peopledataforgood,purpose,resilience,satnamsagoobritishredcross,upskilling,workforcedevelopment</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/ceca2382b079dfcdbdb9a8249ff0da3c.jpg"/><itunes:season>1</itunes:season><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType></item><item><title>Learning The Many Languages of Skills: Mars's Nuno Gonçalves</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/episode/learning-the-many-languages-of-skills-mars-s-nuno-goncalves--43717667</link><description><![CDATA[“I think that in the future, what will be really necessary in terms of skills are people that talk different languages of skills… talking different languages of different skill sets will be something really, really important.” Why is it significant that become more expert seems so fused with speaking restricted languages? And what does it mean to have ‘intentionality’ about skills? How do you start to really understand the skills needs of an organization you join in COVID? This week, these and many other thorny but critical issues get exposed via our debate with long-time friend and highly accomplished CLO and talent leader Nuno Gonçalves, who is now starting to do at global confectionary, food and pet care giant Mars what he did at  European life sciences player UCB: implement a cross-company, future-focused skills strategy. 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Despite COVID, in early December Madhura and her small L&D team launched an innovative cross-company skills framework supported by a new learning platform implementation. This episode is a great chance to hear about the real practical challenges of creating such a framework and how hard it can be to find the right partner to help, as well as the importance of people analytics in general: you’re really going to hear from the HR data and skills coal face here. Making this experience even better: Madhura’s charm, professionalism and fierce intellect. 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Despite COVID, in early December Madhura and her small L&D team launched an innovative cross-company skills framework supported by a new learning platform implementation. This episode is a great chance to hear about the real practical challenges of creating such a framework and how hard it can be to find the right partner to help, as well as the importance of people analytics in general: you’re really going to hear from the HR data and skills coal face here. Making this experience even better: Madhura’s charm, professionalism and fierce intellect. 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Scrub that: he’s agonized about them—and he’s even more agonized about the trouble we’re storing up for ourselves as a society around them. As we find out in our hour together, he fears we’re wasting a lot of time and missing a lot of opportunity chasing the wrong metrics about them, ignoring vast swathes of the ones our workforces (especially our frontline teams) have. But his agony does lead to positivity, and we think you’ll agree with him when he says the original purpose that got so many of us into L&D will help us win through.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/43583610</guid><pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 08:00:04 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/43583610/red_thread_season_ep_2_mathew_daniel_kev_edit_1.mp3" length="47016227" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“When software releases went from Microsoft releasing once every other year to releasing 16 times a week, you know, like all that started to happen; our ability to keep up with the world around us really started to decline.” Whatever else he is (and...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“When software releases went from Microsoft releasing once every other year to releasing 16 times a week, you know, like all that started to happen; our ability to keep up with the world around us really started to decline.” Whatever else he is (and he is many good things), Guild Education’s Matthew Daniel is genuinely passionate about skills. 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In the first full episode of our new RedThread podcast—our deep dive into what we’re calling capitalism’s focus on ‘The Skills Obsession’—we meet passionate educator, innovator and bestselling author Lisa Kay Solomon. Designer in Residence at the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design (‘the d.school’) at Stanford University, Lisa presents in her dialog with Stacia, Dani and Chris something of a masterclass in what thinking about the future actually needs to consist of—and how that feeds into her conviction that, “learning is the currency of possibility.”]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/43582372</guid><pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2021 08:00:13 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/api.spreaker.com/download/episode/43582372/red_thread_season_episode_one_solomon_kev_edit_1.mp3" length="54285791" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>Stacia Garr &amp; Dani Johnson</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“What I introduce [my students] to are the kinds of skills that allow them to navigate ambiguity.” If that seems like urgently-needed capability you or your team to have you’re in luck, as you’re about to find out a whole lot more about why you’d need...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“What I introduce [my students] to are the kinds of skills that allow them to navigate ambiguity.” If that seems like urgently-needed capability you or your team to have you’re in luck, as you’re about to find out a whole lot more about why you’d need such a thing… and why you won’t find it, alas, in today’s conventional curriculum (including corporate L&D). 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