https://www.spreaker.com/show/not-only-but-alsoenSociety & CultureCopyright Evan Bateshttps://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1e433522e52f94ffed6aeca62151b214.jpghttps://www.spreaker.com/show/not-only-but-alsoThu, 02 Mar 2023 03:02:50 +0000Evan BatesEvan Batesfeeds@spreaker.comNot Only, But Also examines the beauty and tension of the in-between spaces many of us occupy. Each episode, your hosts Renee and Nicole discuss living and being free in the spaces of both/and. Together, Renee and Nicole are rabble-rousers but also...yesepisodichttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/lovers-but-also-fighters-part-2https://gregorykyle.com/]]>d5421209-59e9-4827-ba70-62090a2a5d97Tue, 14 Jun 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIt’s a NOBA first! In part two of a two-part series, Renee and Nicole welcome special guests Gregory and Jonathan—their husbands. In a fun, but also serious, conversation, the couples share how they’ve loved and fought their way through 15-plus years...https://gregorykyle.com/]]>2403bipoc,biracial,christianity,community,faith,feminism,husband,identity,intersectionality,marriage,motherhood,purpose,wife,woman,womenclean38fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/lovers-but-also-fighters-part-1https://gregorykyle.com/]]>c8ccac1d-675a-4542-916a-74d13f875f52Tue, 31 May 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIt’s a NOBA first! In part one of a two-part series, Renee and Nicole welcome special guests Gregory and Jonathan—their husbands. In a fun, but also serious, conversation, the couples share how they’ve loved and fought their way through 15-plus years...https://gregorykyle.com/]]>2326bipoc,biracial,christianity,community,faith,feminism,husband,identity,intersectionality,marriage,motherhood,purpose,wife,woman,womenyes37fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/friends-but-also-sisters-part-2https://gregorykyle.com/]]>b281c130-5e09-41d0-bf9f-e5e23c588aabTue, 19 Apr 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIn part 2 of Friends, but also Sisters, Renee and Nicole continue their discussion on all things friendship, including red flags and green flags in relationships, as well as more of their own friendship story. With candor, vulnerability, and humor...https://gregorykyle.com/]]>2845bipoc,biracial,christianity,community,faith,feminism,frenemies,friends,friendship,identity,intersectionality,marriage,motherhood,purpose,sisters,woman,womenyes36fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/friends-but-also-sisters-part-1https://gregorykyle.com/]]>3860ac25-cd19-4dd6-8290-f939c264f5abTue, 05 Apr 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesWhy is making and keeping friends so difficult? What constitutes a healthy friendship? What are friendship red flags? In this episode, part 1 of 2, Renee and Nicole tackle these questions and more from friends, besties, frenemies, and the ever-evasive...https://gregorykyle.com/]]>2885bipoc,biracial,christianity,community,faith,feminism,frenemies,friends,friendship,identity,intersectionality,marriage,motherhood,purpose,sisters,woman,womenyes35fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/whiteness-but-also-colorism-part-2https://gregorykyle.com/]]>ff5ca39c-21c4-4421-9752-03aeffc2ebdaWed, 23 Mar 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIn conclusion of their 2-part discussion on whiteness and colorism, Renee and Nicole continue to share personal and cultural stories around this topic to reveal how, too often, cultural standards of “beauty” impact the most vulnerable so those in...https://gregorykyle.com/]]>2862bipoc,biracial,christianity,colorism,community,faith,feminism,identity,intersectionality,purpose,russia,ukraine,whiteness,woman,womenclean34fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/whiteness-but-also-colorism-part-1 Intro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
https://gregorykyle.com/Correction: Renee mentioned how Keanu will be 57 and a half in April. It’s actually March.Mentioned in this series:-Whiteness definition: From National Museum of African American History and       Culture: https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness
-Jones, Trina (2001). "Shades of Brown: The Law of Skin Color". Duke Law Journal. 49 (1487). doi:10.2139/ssrn.233850.- The Racial Healing Handbook by Anneliese SinghShow (Netflix): Indian Matchmaking -Jerry Seinfeld on Diversity in Comedy: https://youtu.be/EsEr6xNN8HwIntercultural Development Inventory (Hammer, 2012)Intersectionality (Kimberlé Crenshaw): https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/kimberle-crenshaw-intersectionality-more-two-decades-later [Correction: Renee misspoke and said intersectionality occurs when power is “achieved” instead of saying “negotiated”]-Jordan Peterson resignation piece: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto/wcm/4c000e2b-fabd-4067-a7a5-ed7908fc3643/amp/
- Woke Racism by John McWhorter ]]>5ba8459b-c987-46c4-8e73-6590c9442a54Wed, 09 Mar 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIn Part 1 of a 2-part series on whiteness and colorism, Renee and Nicole define these terms and discuss how they might appear in different societies to the exclusion and oppression of people with darker skin tones. They share personal and cultural... Intro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
https://gregorykyle.com/Correction: Renee mentioned how Keanu will be 57 and a half in April. It’s actually March.Mentioned in this series:-Whiteness definition: From National Museum of African American History and       Culture: https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness
-Jones, Trina (2001). "Shades of Brown: The Law of Skin Color". Duke Law Journal. 49 (1487). doi:10.2139/ssrn.233850.- The Racial Healing Handbook by Anneliese SinghShow (Netflix): Indian Matchmaking -Jerry Seinfeld on Diversity in Comedy: https://youtu.be/EsEr6xNN8HwIntercultural Development Inventory (Hammer, 2012)Intersectionality (Kimberlé Crenshaw): https://www.law.columbia.edu/news/archive/kimberle-crenshaw-intersectionality-more-two-decades-later [Correction: Renee misspoke and said intersectionality occurs when power is “achieved” instead of saying “negotiated”]-Jordan Peterson resignation piece: https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jordan-peterson-why-i-am-no-longer-a-tenured-professor-at-the-university-of-toronto/wcm/4c000e2b-fabd-4067-a7a5-ed7908fc3643/amp/
- Woke Racism by John McWhorter ]]>2768bipoc,biracial,christianity,colorism,community,faith,feminism,identity,intersectionality,purpose,russia,ukraine,whiteness,woman,womenclean33fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/rambling-but-also-reasoninghttps://gregorykyle.com/Referenced in this episode:“Mother Hunger” by Kelly Mcdaniel]]>02be4d05-a0ff-44ab-85c8-10078ec69339Tue, 08 Feb 2022 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesRenee and Nicole are back with their first ever shoot-the-breeze-episode, in which you are invited into their back-and-forth of trying to figure out this week’s topic. They end up discussing mentoring, heaven and hell, Oprah, and justice, among other...https://gregorykyle.com/Referenced in this episode:“Mother Hunger” by Kelly Mcdaniel]]>3736bipoc,biracial,christianity,community,faith,feminism,identity,intersectionality,marriage,motherhood,purpose,woman,womenyes32fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/user/9704122/kid-talk-but-also-real-talk-part-2-Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? By Beverly Daniel Tatum
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https://gregorykyle.com/]]>37899e40-092e-4ac0-98ec-bacfccf17d7dTue, 16 Nov 2021 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesIn part 2 of having conversations with kids about real issues, Renee and Nicole discuss the ongoing dialogues they have with their children about race and racism. Whether it’s sorting out identity, understanding cultural concepts, or navigating...-Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? By Beverly Daniel Tatum
-The concept of "Ubuntu" and poem In Lak'Ech
 
Intro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
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https://gregorykyle.com/]]>bf6f5399-b314-40d3-bf32-d121d38a86b6Wed, 03 Nov 2021 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesNOBA episodes have tackled big questions, but what about when it’s time to speak to your children about certain issues? In this episode, Part 1 of 2 on talking to children about sex and racism, Renee and Nicole share insights and personal anecdotes on...-To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee -Unbound by Tarana BurkeIntro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
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]]>a7e3cda1-4be5-42a1-8143-a621b90a1eecTue, 19 Oct 2021 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesWhat do spiritual abuse, murder, espionage and orgies have in common? Listen to Part 2 as Renee and Nicole unravel this mystery, and more, with their usual humor and personal insight—as they discuss the forms spiritual abuse takes and how God is...https://www.cam.ac.uk/tryst_with_destinyIntro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
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https://gregorykyle.com/]]>250ad4f1-8450-4933-baeb-13aa11dc6b8bTue, 05 Oct 2021 11:00:00 +0000Evan BatesWhat do spiritual abuse, murder, espionage and orgies have in common? Listen as Renee and Nicole unravel this mystery, and more, with their usual humor and personal insight—as they discuss the forms spiritual abuse takes and how God is leading people...Intro music “Bhangra, but also jazz” and outro by Gregory Kyle Klug
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