https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-fight-so-you-don-t-have-to--4214465
Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws and failures as they navigate being business partners and friends while juggling motherhood, their families and other friendships.

In a nutshell: They fight so you don’t have to.]]>enSociety & CultureCopyright Cloudcasthttps://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/a644b8d3123993454282655418ab8c12.jpghttps://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-fight-so-you-don-t-have-to--4214465Fri, 26 Dec 2025 01:11:13 +0000CloudcastCloudcastbrandon@cloudcastmedia.usBest friends and co-authors of seven novels, including the Amazon Charts bestselling book, The Good Widow, Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke use biting humor to share lessons they’ve learned during their thirty-year friendship. They talk about their...
Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws and failures as they navigate being business partners and friends while juggling motherhood, their families and other friendships.

In a nutshell: They fight so you don’t have to.]]>falseepisodichttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-63-we-fight-so-you-don-t-have-to-at-bouchercon--57274379Wednesdays at 2:00 p.m.

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/57274379Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:58:04 +0000CloudcastWhat happens when a blue moon and a mystery book convention collide? Liz and Lisa have a fight! Listen in as they discuss how an author friend got stuck in the middle of one of their squabbles and why their memoir will be titled, Wednesdays at 2:00...Wednesdays at 2:00 p.m.

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2145bestfriends,bffpodcast,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-62-wtf-is-this-book-about-the-husband-by-maud-ventura--56703374
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56703374Mon, 18 Sep 2023 16:22:39 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa continue with the WTF book club. This episode they are discussing MY HUSBAND by Maud Ventura. It's an immersive read with so many layers and a hell of an ending! Also-listen to find out why audio might be your best bet. Have a comment?...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1423false62fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-61-we-went-to-italy-again-part-2--56703267
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56703267Tue, 05 Sep 2023 20:38:57 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa finish telling the tale of their Tuscan adventures. Did they make it through the trip without fighting? Did they drink ALL the wine in Italy? Did the teens break anything in the villa? You'll have to listen to find out. Have a...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>3009bestfriends,bffpodcast,lizandlisa,lizfentonandlisasteinke,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalse61fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-60-when-your-first-child-goes-to-college--56544517
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56544517Mon, 21 Aug 2023 18:07:56 +0000CloudcastLiz’s firstborn daughter is off to college at WSU. (Go Cougs!) Liz and Lisa talk about the highs and lows of moving your child out of the house and into their dorm. Liz shares the tips and tricks she learned along the way. And maybe how some secret...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2548bestfriends,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalse60fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-59-we-went-to-italy-again-part-1--56418186
A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/56418186Wed, 09 Aug 2023 23:37:41 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa and their families spent most of June in Italy--and OF COURSE there are stories! Lisa hosted her entire family (and Liz's) in a secluded Tuscan villa and Liz has five teens in tow. Listen in for all the tea behind those instagram...
A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2109bestfriends,bestfriendspodcast,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,wefightsoyoudonthavetofalse59fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-58-the-struggle-bus-with-vanessa-lillie--54120382
Liz and Lisa welcome Vanessa Lillie aboard the struggle bus to talk about second chances in publishing. Vanessa reveals her scariest moment, what she did to connect to her soul purpose and shares the Hail Mary that kept her in the publishing game. Whether you’re an aspiring author or have already been published, this is a must-listen because of all the invaluable advice Vanessa shares.
Have a comment?

A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54120382Tue, 25 Jul 2023 14:30:15 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa welcome Vanessa Lillie aboard the struggle bus to talk about second chances in publishing. Vanessa reveals her scariest moment, what she did to connect to her soul purpose and shares the Hail Mary that kept her in the publishing game....
Liz and Lisa welcome Vanessa Lillie aboard the struggle bus to talk about second chances in publishing. Vanessa reveals her scariest moment, what she did to connect to her soul purpose and shares the Hail Mary that kept her in the publishing game. Whether you’re an aspiring author or have already been published, this is a must-listen because of all the invaluable advice Vanessa shares.
Have a comment?

A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2553bestfriends,bffpodcast,coauthors,lizandlisa,vanessalillie,wefightsoyoudonthavetofalse58fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-57-wtf-is-this-book-about-forever-hold-your-peace--54120411Liz & Lisa style. Which pretty much means they are figuring it out as they go!

They’’ll dish on books they’ve loved, starting with their own—because they’re no strangers to shameless self-promo. Forever Hold Your Peace will be published this week. Cue the champagne! It’s a party! They talk about their characters (who do they relate to?), southern California settings (there are several), friendship break ups and reconciliations, love stories, and more. Plus, they surprise each other with shocking and insightful questions. Listen in, this is one book club you don’t want to miss!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54120411Sun, 09 Jul 2023 22:21:24 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa launch a new series where they host a book club the only way they know how: Liz & Lisa style. Which pretty much means they are figuring it out as they go! They’’ll dish on books they’ve loved, starting with their own—because they’re...Liz & Lisa style. Which pretty much means they are figuring it out as they go!

They’’ll dish on books they’ve loved, starting with their own—because they’re no strangers to shameless self-promo. Forever Hold Your Peace will be published this week. Cue the champagne! It’s a party! They talk about their characters (who do they relate to?), southern California settings (there are several), friendship break ups and reconciliations, love stories, and more. Plus, they surprise each other with shocking and insightful questions. Listen in, this is one book club you don’t want to miss!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2804false57fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-56-how-it-works-co-authoring-with-christine-pride-and-jo-piazza--54044240 write together, and the complexities of writing characters outside of your race. And OF COURSE they also dish on the complexities of the publishing industry!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/54044240Tue, 30 May 2023 17:59:39 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa love to chat with other co-author duos so they are thrilled to sit down with Jo Piazza and Christine Pride to discuss their origin story, how they write together, and the complexities of writing characters outside of your race. And OF... write together, and the complexities of writing characters outside of your race. And OF COURSE they also dish on the complexities of the publishing industry!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2415authorinterviews,bestfriends,bffpodcast,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,publishingfalse56fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-55-rom-coms-and-mom-coms--53807594
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53807594Wed, 10 May 2023 15:49:14 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa talk rom-coms, mom-coms, and summer TBR lists with fellow Alcove Press authors Annie Cathryn and Heidi Shertok. Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1833bestfriendpodcasts,bestfriends,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfentonfalse55fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-54-what-no-one-tells-you-about-aging-and-menopause-with-author-karma-brown--53632084Recipe for a Perfect Wife Karma Brown about turning fifty and all the things NO ONE will tell you. They get into it all: the emotions around leaving your forties behind, the body and mood changes (so many!) and the pros and cons of hormone replacement therapy. And Karma, a cancer survivor, shares what she’s learned about menopause and why she considers getting older a blessing. If you’re confused, anxious or just a little curious about aging, you won’t want to miss this conversation!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53632084Mon, 24 Apr 2023 18:33:20 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa talk with their friend and international bestselling author of Recipe for a Perfect Wife Karma Brown about turning fifty and all the things NO ONE will tell you. They get into it all: the emotions around leaving your forties behind, the...Recipe for a Perfect Wife Karma Brown about turning fifty and all the things NO ONE will tell you. They get into it all: the emotions around leaving your forties behind, the body and mood changes (so many!) and the pros and cons of hormone replacement therapy. And Karma, a cancer survivor, shares what she’s learned about menopause and why she considers getting older a blessing. If you’re confused, anxious or just a little curious about aging, you won’t want to miss this conversation!

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>3209karmabrown,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfentonfalse54fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-53-how-it-works-pre-publishing-anxiety-with-author-steven-rowley--53446110The Guncle, joins Liz and Lisa so they can freak out together about their upcoming publication dates! He shares his story (every author has one!) about the highs and lows of his own experiences as well as his best advice for how to handle the stress and lack of control around having a book come out. And Liz and Lisa reveal that even though they know better, their inner control freaks are beginning to rear their ugly heads as July 11th, the publication date of their eighth novel, Forever Hold Your Peace, nears. You won't want to miss this one.

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53446110Tue, 04 Apr 2023 22:56:46 +0000CloudcastSteven Rowley, bestselling author of The Guncle, joins Liz and Lisa so they can freak out together about their upcoming publication dates! He shares his story (every author has one!) about the highs and lows of his own experiences as well as his best...The Guncle, joins Liz and Lisa so they can freak out together about their upcoming publication dates! He shares his story (every author has one!) about the highs and lows of his own experiences as well as his best advice for how to handle the stress and lack of control around having a book come out. And Liz and Lisa reveal that even though they know better, their inner control freaks are beginning to rear their ugly heads as July 11th, the publication date of their eighth novel, Forever Hold Your Peace, nears. You won't want to miss this one.

Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2948bestfriends,besties,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,stevenrowley,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalse53fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-52-get-out-of-your-book-slump--53224636
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line. ]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/53224636Mon, 20 Mar 2023 22:32:56 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa surprise each other with three books they've each read and loved, recently and. . . not so recently. (Lisa didn't understand the assignment!) If you've been in a reading slump, listen in, because Liz and Lisa share some great book...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line. ]]>2424false52fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-51-we-fight-so-you-don-t-have-to-on-christmas-day--52654889
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52654889Tue, 07 Feb 2023 15:57:25 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa STILL don't always get it right when they communicate, even with thirty plus years of friendship under their belts. So yes, they fought on Christmas, of all days. Listen to find out what was said that made Liz's head explode and drove...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2356authors,coauthors,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalse351fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-50-mike-fenton-speaks-his-truth--52521052
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52521052Mon, 23 Jan 2023 20:28:23 +0000CloudcastIt's our 50th podcast episode, so who better to have as a guest than MIKE FENTON, who just turned 50! He is reluctantly joining us as we recount his birthday trip to Cabo, the turf war we had with another birthday boy named Michael, and why he is...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>3200authors,bestfriends,lisasteinke,lizfenton,podcasthosts,wefightsoyoudon'thavetofalse350fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-49-how-it-works-interview-with-alcove-press-production-manager-rebecca-nelson--52393556
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52393556Tue, 10 Jan 2023 00:04:08 +0000CloudcastIIn this episode of their How it Works series, Liz and Lisa chat with the production manager for Crooked Lane Books and Alcove Press. From contract negotiation to cover concepts to submitting books for awards, Rebecca Nelson does it all. Even more...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1544false249fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-48-how-it-works-interview-with-agent-holly-root--52186196
If you have questions or comments about this episode, email Liz@Lizandlisa.com and write podcast in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52186196Thu, 15 Dec 2022 02:03:54 +0000CloudcastAre you trying to get an agent? On this episode of How it Works, Liz and Lisa talk to their agent, Holly Root of Root Literary about what will make your book stand out from the others. She also shares why certain books soar to the top of the best...
If you have questions or comments about this episode, email Liz@Lizandlisa.com and write podcast in the subject line.]]>2649bestfriends,lisa,lisasteinke,liz,lizfentonfalse248fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-47-how-it-works-interview-with-book-marketing-manager-madeline-rathle--52111773
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/52111773Tue, 06 Dec 2022 18:37:02 +0000CloudcastIn this episode of the "How it Works" series, Liz and Lisa interview Madeline Rathle, the marketing manager at their publisher, Alcove Press. She shares the do's and don'ts of authors on social media. And she answers a burning question for Liz and...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1823false247fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-46-how-it-works-interview-with-editor-holly-ingraham--51741462
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51741462Tue, 01 Nov 2022 18:02:18 +0000CloudcastHave you written a book that you are trying to get published or are you curious about what the job of a book editor entails? In this episode of the How it Works series, Liz and Lisa interview their editor at Alcove Press, Holly Ingraham. She shares...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>3050falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-45-how-it-works-book-promo-so-you-don-t-have-fomo--51610759
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51610759Wed, 19 Oct 2022 17:33:43 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa talk about what it's REALLY like for authors to promote their own books. How do they decide where to put their efforts online and how much time they should spend doing it? What about social media? Is BookTok for everyone? Although it can...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2131authors,bestfriends,lisasteinke,lizfenton,podcastsfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-44-how-it-works-blurbs-for-book-covers--51456845
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51456845Mon, 03 Oct 2022 18:38:12 +0000CloudcastWhen Liz and Lisa told people they were going to give the inside scoop on how it really works when it comes to endorsements, everyone said, YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT! So, what did they do? They talked about it anyway! Because it's important to pull...
Have a comment? A question? Something you'd like to know about the publishing industry? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2099bestfriends,forverholdyourpeace,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfentonfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-43-how-it-works-editing-after-the-book-deal--51285087
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51285087Mon, 19 Sep 2022 23:02:20 +0000CloudcastLiz & Lisa launch a new series called, "How Does It Work?" where they pull the curtain back on every aspect of publishing. In the first episode, they give you the inside scoop on the editing of their next book, Forever Hold Your Peace. Find out how...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1897falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-42-liz-lisa-s-high-school-reunion--51162757
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/51162757Wed, 07 Sep 2022 14:10:10 +0000CloudcastLiz recently dragged Lisa to their 30 year high school reunion. Listen to discover why Liz hated her outfit and kept losing track of Mike Fenton, who considers himself an honorary member of the class at this point. Have a comment? A question?...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1911authors,bestfriends,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfentonfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-41-the-struggle-bus-with-elisa-lorello--50721032https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50721032Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:26:00 +0000CloudcastAuthor Elisa Lorello boards the struggle bus and tells her story of going from self publishing the #1 book on Amazon and quitting her day job to getting dropped by her publisher only a few years later. She tells Liz and Lisa how she not only found...2171falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-40-the-struggle-bus-with-jennifer-coburn--50721008https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50721008Tue, 26 Jul 2022 23:23:37 +0000CloudcastWhen author Jen Coburn got her first book deal and snagged a six figure option, she thought she had made it. Little did she know the twisty path her career would take in the next several years and that she'd bottom out before switching gears (again!)...1988falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-39-the-struggle-bus-with-screenwriters-david-wagner-david-allensworth--50106811
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50106811Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:51:53 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa talk to "The Davids" (as they call them) about what a ride on the struggle bus feels like for a screenwriter. Hint: (Bumpy!) David Wagner and David Allensworth each separately enjoyed early success in their writing and producing careers...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2288falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-38-the-struggle-bus-with-michelle-gable--50106758
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50106758Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:51:44 +0000CloudcastUp next for a ride on the struggle bus is New York Times bestselling author, Michelle Gable. Find out why Michelle says she still struggled in publishing after she hit the list. Michelle doesn't hold back as she takes us through the highs and lows of...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2049authors,bestfriends,failure,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,michellegable,nytbesteller,publishing,struggle,strugglebus,writingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-37-looks-like-we-made-it--50187296
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/50187296Mon, 13 Jun 2022 17:10:49 +0000CloudcastLIz and Lisa (and Barry Manilow!) announce the good news that they have another book deal! Forever Hold Your Peace will be published in the summer of 2023! It's been a long year and a half of editors choosing to "step aside" (listen to their rejection...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1658bestfriends,bookdeal,coauthors,foreverholdyourpeace,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,lizfentonandlisasteinke,publishing,rejectionfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-36-the-struggle-bus-with-nicole-hackett--49930182
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49930182Wed, 25 May 2022 11:48:32 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa have invited authors to take a ride on the struggle bus and talk about the hard times they've experienced in their publishing careers. Their next passenger is author Nicole Hackett who wrote six books and had two agents before she...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1774authors,bestfriends,besties,bffs,failure,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,publishing,strugglebus,writingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-35-the-struggle-bus-with-catherine-mckenzie--49607131
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49607131Mon, 02 May 2022 14:38:20 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa have invited authors to take a ride on the struggle bus and talk about the hard times they've experienced in their publishing careers. Their first passenger? Internationally best-selling author, Catherine McKenzie, who talks candidly...
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2320bestfriends,bestis,coauthors,failure,lisasteinke,lizandlisa,lizfenton,rejection,strugglebusfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-34-how-to-not-murder-your-co-author--49399631
If you're thinking about writing a novel with another person, then you must listen to the many ways Liz and LIsa have almost broken up. Find out what they've learned from transitioning from friends to business partners and how they've managed not to kill each other in the process.

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If you're thinking about writing a novel with another person, then you must listen to the many ways Liz and LIsa have almost broken up. Find out what they've learned from transitioning from friends to business partners and how they've managed not to kill each other in the process.

Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2359authors,best,bffs,coauthors,friends,rejectionfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-33-finding-your-joy-in-a-sea-of-rejection--49399552
Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49399552Mon, 11 Apr 2022 16:01:52 +0000CloudcastLiz and LIsa's rejection series continues. They have heard from so many authors who have lost the joy of writing. (Liz has too!) They do a deep dive into why it happens and how to pull yourself out of it. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz &...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49123730Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:36:15 +0000CloudcastIn the fourth episode of their rejection series, Liz and Lisa finally reveal the current status of their career, and butcher a classic theme song. You'll have to listen to understand. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49123696Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:35:37 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa were shocked by the incredible response to the first two episodes of their rejection series. In this episode, they discuss their surprise that so many authors are in the same boat as they are, and why everyone is afraid to talk about...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49072470Tue, 15 Mar 2022 20:16:42 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa continue the series about facing rejection as authors. In this episode, they focus on how they've each coped with the tremendous amount of "we're going to step aside" emails they've received from editors. How they wrote not one, but two...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/49020124Tue, 15 Mar 2022 19:49:32 +0000CloudcastThis is part one of Liz and Lisa's series about the rejection they've faced in the publishing world. The subject of failing as an author (or anything else) is often taboo, but Liz and Lisa are ready to spill the tea on how hard the last two years have...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48581968Tue, 08 Feb 2022 18:25:06 +0000CloudcastA missing cat. An awkward group text. A fight. Liz and Lisa are now achingly familiar with the phrase, toxic positivity and you'll find out why they now think twice before declaring to anyone that “It’s going to be okay!” Have a comment? A...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48152704Mon, 03 Jan 2022 18:42:27 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa put their thirty-year knowledge of one another to the ultimate test. Does Lisa know Liz's favorite color? Does Liz know how many speeding tickets Lisa has? And which one would want to be a lion if they could be an animal? Have a...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/48152702Mon, 03 Jan 2022 18:41:21 +0000CloudcastFind out why Liz had to stop watching the first episode of the new series based on Sex and the City and why, after talking with Lisa about it on this podcast, she's ready to press play again. Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47065966Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:04:53 +0000CloudcastHow did Mike Fenton almost die? Who is Vincenzo? And why do we like the European version of ourselves wayyy better than the American? Listen to find out! Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the...
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Have a comment? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/47065965Wed, 20 Oct 2021 17:04:01 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa didn’t spend the entire trip to Italy together for a reason (Think: Previous slightly disastrous vacay to Grand Cayman: Episode 19). Find out what European adventures we had before we saw each other on the Amalfi Coast. Have a...
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We love to hear from you! Email liz@lizandlisa.com for show ideas, comments or questions.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46504909Mon, 13 Sep 2021 22:26:36 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa have seven rescue dogs and one cat between them. (Lisa has two dogs and Liz has the rest. You do the math!) And now, Liz has taken in a German Shepard and needs an intervention ASAP. Can Lisa talk some sense into her? We love to hear...
We love to hear from you! Email liz@lizandlisa.com for show ideas, comments or questions.]]>2050falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-22-mike-fenton-vs-the-pool-chairs--46504908
We love to hear from you! Email liz@lizandlisa.com for show ideas, comments or questions.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/46504908Mon, 13 Sep 2021 22:25:11 +0000CloudcastLiz’s husband, Mike Fenton, whom we always call by his first and last name got his five minutes of Instagram fame during a recent trip to Cabo when he secured pool chairs like it was an Olympic sport. Liz chronicled his 6am chair-claiming-talents in...
We love to hear from you! Email liz@lizandlisa.com for show ideas, comments or questions.]]>2064falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-21-the-way-we-were-and-maybe-shouldn-t-have-been--45993396www.lizandlisa.com/podcast.

Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/45993396Fri, 06 Aug 2021 21:23:05 +0000CloudcastLiz’s itching for a bold new do’, which sends her and Lisa down a rabbit hole where they analyze thirty years of bad hair choices. Think: perming your already curly hair! Make sure to check out the photographic evidence at www.lizandlisa.com/podcast....www.lizandlisa.com/podcast.

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Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/45997505Fri, 06 Aug 2021 21:20:57 +0000CloudcastWe’ve finally set up a proper home studio to record our podcast and Liz has hijacked the episode to ask the question every parent wonders: WHY CAN’T MY TEEN CHARGE HIS PHONE PROPERLY? Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.
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We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/44200506Mon, 05 Apr 2021 20:04:51 +0000CloudcastWe travel together—a lot. When we aren’t jumping cities on book tour, we drag our husbands and family along on our book research adventures. And we’ve had some epic fights along the way. Listen in to find out why one battle caused Mike Fenton to jump...
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We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/44200505Mon, 05 Apr 2021 20:03:57 +0000CloudcastWhy is it so damn hard for adult women to make new friends ? When geography separated us for a decade, we both dated our asses off struggling to find her. Listen to discover if we each found “the (other) one.” We love to hear from you! Email us...
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We love to hear from you! Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/44200503Mon, 05 Apr 2021 20:02:32 +0000CloudcastBaking banana bread feels so last year in the best of ways. Liz and Lisa look back on quarantine and a find few similarities--including Home Editing every closet and drawer in their houses. But Binge watching and reading? They mostly disagree. Listen...

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We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/42620996Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:57:14 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa take a friendship quiz and their conversation shifts to an unexpected topic that has Lisa considering getting a therapist. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.
We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2614authors,best,bffs,firends,friendshipfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-15-the-journals-of-mr-ex--42620973
We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/42620973Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:53:07 +0000CloudcastThe journals make another appearance! Why did Lisa dedicate FOUR notebooks to one man? And why did Liz have a crush on him? Listen to find out. We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.
We love to hear from you! Email us at liz@lizandlisa.com.]]>2027falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-14-sex-and-the-city-and-us--42620932https://api.spreaker.com/episode/42620932Wed, 23 Dec 2020 00:49:38 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa discuss the iconic TV show and why Lisa religiously attended Sunday night viewing parties while donning her tutu and Liz didn’t watch at all—until later2176liznlisa,sarahjessicaparker,sexandthecityfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-13-the-dead-dad-s-club--40640133
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/40640133Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:10:37 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa belong to this member’s only club that no one wants to join. Liz lost her father first and four years later, Lisa’s passed away. They share their secret to getting through the painful loss of a dad: humor. Have a question, comment or...
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1721falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-12-dear-diary-the-college-years--40640134
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/40640134Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:10:26 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa have so many diaries between them that one podcast episode quickly turned into two. Now they are on their own for the first time at college, and confiding in their diaries rather than one another. Listen as they read from the same dates...
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1977falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-11-dear-diary-the-high-school-years--40640132
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/40640132Wed, 16 Sep 2020 22:10:14 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa peel back the pages—and layers—of the emotional teenage angst they wrote about in their high school diaries. Listen in as they share and dissect their innermost secrets and turmoil that includes poems and drawings! Have a question,...
Have a question, comment or idea? Email liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1839authors,diaries,friends,lisa,liz,liznlisa,womenfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-10-the-curse-of-chichen-itza--34614130
Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/34614130Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:48:45 +0000CloudcastThe Yucatan Peninsula is the perfect vacation spot with its white sand beaches, crystal-clear ocean water and delicious local food. And for Liz and Lisa, it was also the ideal setting for their fifth novel, Girls’ Night Out. Or so they thought! After...
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Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/34614133Tue, 18 Aug 2020 17:48:34 +0000CloudcastAfter two decades of friendship, Lisa moved two thousand miles away from San Diego to Chicago to get married. Liz and Lisa continued writing books together and actually saw each other more often than they did when they were living in the same city....
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Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/34614135Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:59:02 +0000CloudcastA lot has gone down over the years for Liz and Lisa at the blackjack table—and they’re not just talking about gambling! Find out what happened when they let their guards--and cards--down in Sin City. Have something to say? A question? Email Liz &...
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Have something to say? A question? Email Liz & Lisa at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/34614137Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:57:08 +0000CloudcastLiz and Lisa look back at Lisa’s serial monogamy dating highlight reel. Find out why Lisa was a magnet for men who were perfect on paper but lacked the commitment gene. And hear about Liz’s amazing ability to play therapist and talk her off the ledge...
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Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/28380520Mon, 06 Jul 2020 15:05:11 +0000CloudcastThe year was 2013 and Liz and Lisa finally had an agent and a traditional publishing deal with Simon & Schuster. They traveled to New York City to meet their agent and editor for the first time. They even got a second book deal in the process. You’d...
Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1871falsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-5-i-ll-have-who-she-s-having--28380518
Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/28380518Mon, 29 Jun 2020 03:24:45 +0000CloudcastIn 2005, Liz and Lisa’s first manuscript, I’ll Have Who She’s Having, was rejected by every agent in the publishing industry. After a year of trying to get published—while one of them was pregnant and the other was a total emotional mess—they did what...
Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1541authors,best,besties,bffs,friends,friendship,have,having,i'll,partners,publishing,rejection,she's,who,writingfalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-4-liz-and-lisa-on-lockdown--28380512
Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/28380512Mon, 01 Jun 2020 17:16:27 +0000CloudcastWhen they were told to shelter in place, Liz and Lisa leaned in hard. Quarantine would be their bitch. But, when that initial fervor to be productive wore off, they had to face reality: Their teens were disgruntled. Their favorite gym was closed...
Liz and Lisa would love to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1940authors,best,besties,bffs,covid,friends,friendship,lockdown,quarantinefalsefullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-3-the-tricycle--22970856
Liz & Lisa want to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com, and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>https://api.spreaker.com/episode/22970856Tue, 25 Feb 2020 02:29:52 +0000CloudcastLong before Lisa got married, she spent a majority of her time as the third wheel to Liz and her husband. They dubbed themselves: The Tricycle. They rode to many events together, even Liz and Lisa’s ten-year high school reunion! Most recently, the...
Liz & Lisa want to hear from you! Email them at liz@lizandlisa.com, and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>1849authors,best,bffs,friends,friendship,marriage,three,tricycle,wheelfalse13fullhttps://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-2-the-scarlet-letter--22970857


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In this episode, as we chug (er, sip) champagne, we’ll bring you into our warped little world of lifelong friendship that boasts endless stories, secrets and arguments. You’ll hear about the fight we had at the end of our senior year that prompted one of our moms to call Cal Poly Pomona and proclaim, “They will not be rooming together!” Because: we fight so you don’t have to!

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In this episode, as we chug (er, sip) champagne, we’ll bring you into our warped little world of lifelong friendship that boasts endless stories, secrets and arguments. You’ll hear about the fight we had at the end of our senior year that prompted one of our moms to call Cal Poly Pomona and proclaim, “They will not be rooming together!” Because: we fight so you don’t have to!

Have a question? Comment? Idea? Email us at Liz@lizandlisa.com and put PODCAST in the subject line.]]>2799authors,best,besties,bffs,friends,friendshipfalse11full