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<rss xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>The Swirl World Podcast</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/show/theswirlworld</link><description><![CDATA[The Swirl World celebrates Black women and the diverse men who love us!]]></description><atom:link href="https://www.spreaker.com/show/1214871/episodes/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><language>en</language><category>Society &amp; Culture</category><copyright>Copyright The Swirl World Podcast</copyright><image><url>https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg</url><title>The Swirl World Podcast</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/show/theswirlworld</link></image><lastBuildDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2017 04:35:40 +0000</lastBuildDate><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:owner><itunes:name>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:name><itunes:email>feeds@spreaker.com</itunes:email></itunes:owner><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><itunes:subtitle>The Swirl World celebrates Black women and the diverse men who love us!</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Swirl World celebrates Black women and the diverse men who love us!]]></itunes:summary><itunes:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:type>episodic</itunes:type><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><googleplay:email>feeds@spreaker.com</googleplay:email><googleplay:description>The Swirl World celebrates Black women and the diverse men who love us!</googleplay:description><googleplay:category text="Society &amp; Culture"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit><item><title>Session With An Interracial Dating Coach</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/session-with-an-interracial-dating-coach</link><description><![CDATA[A session Zabeth, the award-winning blogger over at InterracialDatingCoach.com, and author of The New Dating Rules For Black Women: Dating Etiquette. 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Zabeth is a highly sought-after Dating Coach.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2447</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>dating,interracialrelationships,interracialdating,zabeth,datingcoach</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bc2e617461001693cc01100e3386c2d9.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>A session Zabeth, the award-winning blogger over at InterracialDatingCoach.com, and author of The New Dating Rules For Black Women: Dating Etiquette. Zabeth is a highly sought-after Dating Coach.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/bc2e617461001693cc01100e3386c2d9.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>He Shoved An Oreo Cookie In My Mouth!</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/he-shoved-an-oreo-cookie-in-my-mouth</link><description><![CDATA[The Swirl World Podcast Host Michelle Matthews Calloway and Men's Editor Mark Custard enjoy an impromptu, "after the show" conversation with Alida Wright Sharp and Tom, her husband of 32 years. <br /><br />The conversation becomes serious as they move to a discussion of resistance to their interracial marriage by clergy and family members alike, and to the instances of colorism experienced by their two sons - one blue-eyed, and the other brown-eyed.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5242512</guid><pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 01:21:56 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5242512/022.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Swirl World Podcast Host Michelle Matthews Calloway and Men's Editor Mark Custard enjoy an impromptu, "after the show" conversation with Alida Wright Sharp and Tom, her husband of 32 years. 

The conversation becomes serious as they move to a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Swirl World Podcast Host Michelle Matthews Calloway and Men's Editor Mark Custard enjoy an impromptu, "after the show" conversation with Alida Wright Sharp and Tom, her husband of 32 years. <br /><br />The conversation becomes serious as they move to a discussion of resistance to their interracial marriage by clergy and family members alike, and to the instances of colorism experienced by their two sons - one blue-eyed, and the other brown-eyed.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1158</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>interracial,blackwomen,interracial-marriage,interracialdating,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>The Swirl World Podcast Host Michelle Matthews Calloway and Men's Editor Mark Custard enjoy an impromptu, "after the show" conversation with Alida Wright Sharp and Tom, her husband of 32 years. 

The conversation becomes serious as they move to a discussion of resistance to their interracial marriage by clergy and family members alike, and to the instances of colorism experienced by their two sons - one blue-eyed, and the other brown-eyed.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>We Met In The Swirl World!</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/we-met-in-the-swirl-world</link><description><![CDATA[“Irish Hottie” Patrick J. Browne and former Featured “Single Swirler” Danyell Dulaney Huffman met in The Swirl World – and fell in love! <br /><br />In this episode they share their “Ireland to Arizona” story with The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London Leach. <br /><br />(Danyell and Patrick are also the sexy voice overs behind The Swirl World Podcast’s intros and outros!)]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5241847</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:41:50 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5241847/041a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>“Irish Hottie” Patrick J. Browne and former Featured “Single Swirler” Danyell Dulaney Huffman met in The Swirl World – and fell in love! 

In this episode they share their “Ireland to Arizona” story with The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[“Irish Hottie” Patrick J. Browne and former Featured “Single Swirler” Danyell Dulaney Huffman met in The Swirl World – and fell in love! <br /><br />In this episode they share their “Ireland to Arizona” story with The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London Leach. <br /><br />(Danyell and Patrick are also the sexy voice overs behind The Swirl World Podcast’s intros and outros!)]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1326</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>arizona,ireland,interracial,blackwomen,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/26560d0095756b819dc0fb06e5447eec.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>“Irish Hottie” Patrick J. Browne and former Featured “Single Swirler” Danyell Dulaney Huffman met in The Swirl World – and fell in love! 

In this episode they share their “Ireland to Arizona” story with The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Adrienne London Leach. 

(Danyell and Patrick are also the sexy voice overs behind The Swirl World Podcast’s intros and outros!)</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/26560d0095756b819dc0fb06e5447eec.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>"I'm Ready To Swirl!"</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/im-ready-to-swirl</link><description><![CDATA[This is the excited proclamation of Regina Parker, a Black Woman living and working in Virginia.<br /><br />Regina shares with The Swirl World Podcast hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach the “why” behind the reason for her readiness to date interracially and expand her dating and marriage options.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5241609</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:41:12 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5241609/025.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>This is the excited proclamation of Regina Parker, a Black Woman living and working in Virginia.

Regina shares with The Swirl World Podcast hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach the “why” behind the reason for her readiness to...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[This is the excited proclamation of Regina Parker, a Black Woman living and working in Virginia.<br /><br />Regina shares with The Swirl World Podcast hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach the “why” behind the reason for her readiness to date interracially and expand her dating and marriage options.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>1879</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>relationships,swirling,blackwomen,interracialdating,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>This is the excited proclamation of Regina Parker, a Black Woman living and working in Virginia.

Regina shares with The Swirl World Podcast hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach the “why” behind the reason for her readiness to date interracially and expand her dating and marriage options.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Black Women Need To Travel!</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/black-women-need-to-travel</link><description><![CDATA[Want to travel – or simply experience an adventure?<br /><br />Lorraine Spencer, Interracial Blogging Pioneer, Dating Coach and self-described "Information Broker" shares a story about the travel choices she made as a young woman, and how they changed her life. <br /><br />Lorraine is the publisher of the Swirling and Marriage blog and posts articles on Beyond Black & White under the name "Swirl Queen."]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5241588</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:33:30 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5241588/019.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Want to travel – or simply experience an adventure?

Lorraine Spencer, Interracial Blogging Pioneer, Dating Coach and self-described "Information Broker" shares a story about the travel choices she made as a young woman, and how they changed her life....</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Want to travel – or simply experience an adventure?<br /><br />Lorraine Spencer, Interracial Blogging Pioneer, Dating Coach and self-described "Information Broker" shares a story about the travel choices she made as a young woman, and how they changed her life. <br /><br />Lorraine is the publisher of the Swirling and Marriage blog and posts articles on Beyond Black & White under the name "Swirl Queen."]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>451</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>travel,interracial,swirling,blackwomen,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>Want to travel – or simply experience an adventure?

Lorraine Spencer, Interracial Blogging Pioneer, Dating Coach and self-described "Information Broker" shares a story about the travel choices she made as a young woman, and how they changed her life. 

Lorraine is the publisher of the Swirling and Marriage blog and posts articles on Beyond Black &amp; White under the name "Swirl Queen."</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>When A White Man Thinks He's Golden</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/when-a-white-man-thinks-hes-golden</link><description><![CDATA[All White men are GOLDEN! Um . . . NOT! Here’s one way you can recognize when a White man thinks he’s golden – and make sure you don’t fall for the okey-doke.<br /><br />The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway shares observations on a specific red flag Black women should pay attention to when dating or seeking to build a relationship with a White man.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5241528</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 20:14:37 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5241528/038.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>All White men are GOLDEN! Um . . . NOT! Here’s one way you can recognize when a White man thinks he’s golden – and make sure you don’t fall for the okey-doke.

The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway shares observations on a...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[All White men are GOLDEN! Um . . . NOT! Here’s one way you can recognize when a White man thinks he’s golden – and make sure you don’t fall for the okey-doke.<br /><br />The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway shares observations on a specific red flag Black women should pay attention to when dating or seeking to build a relationship with a White man.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>645</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>relationships,interracial,swirling,blackwomen,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>All White men are GOLDEN! Um . . . NOT! Here’s one way you can recognize when a White man thinks he’s golden – and make sure you don’t fall for the okey-doke.

The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway shares observations on a specific red flag Black women should pay attention to when dating or seeking to build a relationship with a White man.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>Why The Fascination With Ratchet Videos?</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/why-the-fascination-with-ratchet-videos</link><description><![CDATA[The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway vents and rants about some Black women's seeming fascination with TMZ, hood rats and ratchet videos.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/5241404</guid><pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 19:38:00 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/5241404/039.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway vents and rants about some Black women's seeming fascination with TMZ, hood rats and ratchet videos.</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway vents and rants about some Black women's seeming fascination with TMZ, hood rats and ratchet videos.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>425</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>tmz,interracial,ratchet,hoodrats,the-swirl-world</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>The Swirl World Podcast Co-Host Michelle Matthews Calloway vents and rants about some Black women's seeming fascination with TMZ, hood rats and ratchet videos.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/1a666bbccf4143b60ee6de8ed2ca533f.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The Swirl World Podcast Episode 005</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/the-swirl-world-podcast-episode-005</link><description><![CDATA[The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach converse with Buffalo, NY native Mark Custard. <br /><br />Mark, a White man who loves Black women, describes his journey though interracial dating. <br /><br />Mark joins The Swirl World team with a new column, "On Another Note."]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/4987675</guid><pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/4987675/005.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach converse with Buffalo, NY native Mark Custard. 

Mark, a White man who loves Black women, describes his journey though interracial dating. 

Mark joins The Swirl World team...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach converse with Buffalo, NY native Mark Custard. <br /><br />Mark, a White man who loves Black women, describes his journey though interracial dating. <br /><br />Mark joins The Swirl World team with a new column, "On Another Note."]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>3254</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>relationships,interracial,blackwomen,interracialdating,whitemen</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach converse with Buffalo, NY native Mark Custard. 

Mark, a White man who loves Black women, describes his journey though interracial dating. 

Mark joins The Swirl World team with a new column, "On Another Note."</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item><item><title>The Swirl World Podcast Episode 004</title><link>https://www.spreaker.com/user/theswirlworld/the-swirl-world-podcast-episode-004</link><description><![CDATA[Mr. Dakota and Mrs. Mary Ellen Danuser, proud members of the "40 And Over Club," tell The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach  what it's like to engage in interracial dating and marriage as "Seasoned Swirlers." <br /><br />Mary Ellen wants Black women to know that regardless of their age or place in life (she was divorced with grown children) meeting a quality man is very possible. <br /><br />Dakota, a retired Marine, shares his perspective on life as a White man married to a Black woman. Find out who made the first move - you'll be surprised!<br /><br />Mary Ellen is working on a book detailing her and Dakota's shared experiences.]]></description><guid isPermaLink="false">https://api.spreaker.com/episode/4987664</guid><pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:23:13 +0000</pubDate><enclosure url="https://api.spreaker.com/download/episode/4987664/004a.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/><itunes:author>The Swirl World Podcast</itunes:author><itunes:subtitle>Mr. Dakota and Mrs. Mary Ellen Danuser, proud members of the "40 And Over Club," tell The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach  what it's like to engage in interracial dating and marriage as "Seasoned Swirlers."...</itunes:subtitle><itunes:summary><![CDATA[Mr. Dakota and Mrs. Mary Ellen Danuser, proud members of the "40 And Over Club," tell The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach  what it's like to engage in interracial dating and marriage as "Seasoned Swirlers." <br /><br />Mary Ellen wants Black women to know that regardless of their age or place in life (she was divorced with grown children) meeting a quality man is very possible. <br /><br />Dakota, a retired Marine, shares his perspective on life as a White man married to a Black woman. Find out who made the first move - you'll be surprised!<br /><br />Mary Ellen is working on a book detailing her and Dakota's shared experiences.]]></itunes:summary><itunes:duration>2575</itunes:duration><itunes:keywords>relationships,interracial,interracial-marriage,maturewomen,interracialdating</itunes:keywords><itunes:explicit>clean</itunes:explicit><itunes:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType><googleplay:author>The Swirl World Podcast</googleplay:author><googleplay:description>Mr. Dakota and Mrs. Mary Ellen Danuser, proud members of the "40 And Over Club," tell The Swirl World hosts Michelle Matthews Calloway and Adrienne London Leach  what it's like to engage in interracial dating and marriage as "Seasoned Swirlers." 

Mary Ellen wants Black women to know that regardless of their age or place in life (she was divorced with grown children) meeting a quality man is very possible. 

Dakota, a retired Marine, shares his perspective on life as a White man married to a Black woman. Find out who made the first move - you'll be surprised!

Mary Ellen is working on a book detailing her and Dakota's shared experiences.</googleplay:description><googleplay:image href="https://d3wo5wojvuv7l.cloudfront.net/t_rss_itunes_square_1400/images.spreaker.com/original/4fb02014b40ee1da37135a490c00c3eb.jpg"/><googleplay:explicit>No</googleplay:explicit></item></channel></rss>
