In this bonus, uncut conversation, host Mariana Fernández Mora explores, in conversation with Angelo Custódio, the presence of the body in technological environments, its capacity for listening, and its role in collective emergence. Together, they discuss his work with voice, sound and somatic practice, where technology becomes a relational object rather than a tool of detachment.

The discussion considers technosomatics as a way of keeping the body active inside technical systems, and how amplification, algorithmic effects and improvisation can open spaces of play that unsettle anxiety, expectations and default modes of expression. Listening emerges as a shared and negotiated form of attention, while vulnerability is understood as a condition for co-creation that requires continuous care.

The episode reflects on how sound, embodiment and micro-resistances might interrupt the extractive logics of algorithmic design and invite alternative ways of sensing, relating and staying with complexity.

At the end, you’ll be able to listen to “Something Older”, an audio piece created during the Material Playground Everything Evaporates in the spring of 2025. This piece was guided by Angelo and created in collaboration with the participants. The soundscapes in this episode were also created during this session. Thank you for listening, and see you next season!