The Pilot Episode of Pope & The Conman debuts and Pope and Howse discuss one of the most debated topics in professional wrestling today: What does it really mean to “pay your dues”?



🎙️ SEGMENT ONE: PAYING YOUR DUES IN WRESTLING



The conversation centers around the recent debate over wrestling’s old-school mentality of earning your place in the business.



WWE and AEW veteran Paul Wight (Big Show) recently pushed back hard against the traditional idea of “paying your dues,” arguing that it can become an excuse for veterans to bully or gatekeep younger wrestlers simply because previous generations had to struggle. (Cageside Seats, for Pro Wrestling fans⁠)



Pope and Howse break it down from two completely different perspectives:



🔥 What SHOULD paying your dues actually mean?



🔥 Is helping with the ring, chairs and behind-the-scenes work about respect—or outdated tradition?



🔥 Should younger wrestlers have to struggle simply because previous generations did?



🔥 When does avoiding “paying dues” cross the line into entitlement?



🔥 How has wrestling culture changed for the next generation?



Then we flip the script…



🎯 SEGMENT TWO: THAT’S TRUE • THAT MIGHT BE TRUE • THAT’S RIDICULOUS



POPE IS IN THE HOT SEAT!



Howse fires off statements, rumors, wrestling takes and completely ridiculous claims. Pope has to decide:



✅ THAT’S TRUE

🤔 THAT MIGHT BE TRUE

😂 THAT’S RIDICULOUS



No preparation. No escaping. Just Pope giving his reaction on the spot.



Welcome to Pope & The Conman — two different perspectives, one conversation about the business they love.



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