In this episode, Andrew visits with Deacon Charlie Echeverry, an ordained deacon for the Archdiocese of Los Angeles as well as the founder and managing director of Black/Brown, a strategic advisory firm that helps leaders and organizations turn diversity into a revenue stream. Andrew and Dcn. Charlie examine the current and changing population in the Catholic Church, and they discuss opportunities to engage diverse populations in development by investing time and intentionality in building a diverse workforce and donor-centric fundraising.